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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "socratus"
Date: 28 Jul 2006 02:02:32 AM
Object: Can we using formulas to know anything about the God ?
=========
Can we using formulas and equations of physics
to know anything about the God ?
Is it possible to explain religion with the help of the
physical and mathematical theorems?
Yes. It is possible.
Because creating all MATERIAL WORLD the God
could only working in an absolute reference system
and only under physical and mathematical laws.
========================
1.
What is absolute reference system?
==========
Now it is consider, that reference frame connected with
relict isotropic radiation T = 2,7K is absolute.
But T = 2,7K is not a constant factor.
This relict isotropic radiation continues to extend and decrease
and, hence, approximately over a period of
20 billions years will reach T=0K.
That is structure of Nothing, of Vacuum, of Absolute Zero.
2.
What a geometrical and physical parameters can the particles have in
the structure of Nothing, in Vacuum, in Absolute Zero in T=0K?
============
According to the laws of physics :
J. Charles ( 1787), Gay-Lussac ( 1802),
W. Nernst ( 1910), A. Einstein ( 1925)
particles in a Vacuum cannot have density, volume
and consequently should be flat figures.
===================
These laws tell, that
then closer to zero T=0K, then the particles lose more their volume.
The volume of these particles aspire to infinity.
And then this " infinity" comes the brain of physicists
stop to work. They refuse to think any more.
And I say when volume of the particles disappear they
become "flat phantoms".
These "flat phantoms" are not abstract particles, they are real
ones.
Quantums of light flies with speed c=1 have such geometrical form.
=========================
What is a quantum of light?
=============================
The secret of God and Existence hide
in the "Theory of light quanta".
Socratus.
.

User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Can we using formulas to know anything about the God ? 28 Jul 2006 08:12:01 AM
After the aliens invaded, flibble socratus bleemed snorg
<1154070152.291138.306320@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> gnorff Fri, 28 Jul
2006 00:02:32 -0700:

Can we using formulas and equations of physics
to know anything about the God ?

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User: "Josef Balluch"

Title: Re: Can we using formulas to know anything about the God ? 29 Jul 2006 07:18:49 AM
In a message sent 'round the world, socratus poured fuel on the fire
with the following:

"The formulas are cleverer than people".

In your case this is certainly true.
Regards,
Josef
For the majority of people cannot endure the barrenness and futility of
their lives unless they have some ardent dedication, or some
passionate pursuit in which they can lose themselves.
-- Eric Hoffer
.

User: "Josef Balluch"

Title: Re: Can we using formulas to know anything about the God ? 28 Jul 2006 10:20:51 AM
In a message sent 'round the world, socratus poured fuel on the fire
with the following:

Can we using formulas and equations of physics
to know anything about the God ?

God? What God?
....

What is absolute reference system?
Now it is consider, that reference frame connected with
relict isotropic radiation T = 2,7K is absolute.
But T = 2,7K is not a constant factor.
This relict isotropic radiation continues to extend and decrease
and, hence, approximately over a period of
20 billions years will reach T=0K.

Baloney.
....

What a geometrical and physical parameters can the particles have in
the structure of Nothing, in Vacuum, in Absolute Zero in T=0K?
============
According to the laws of physics :
J. Charles ( 1787), Gay-Lussac ( 1802),
W. Nernst ( 1910), A. Einstein ( 1925)
particles in a Vacuum cannot have density, volume
and consequently should be flat figures.

LOL !! References?
....
Regards,
Josef
We are never deceived; we deceive ourselves.
-- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
.

User: "Michael Gray"

Title: Re: Can we using formulas to know anything about the God ? 28 Jul 2006 04:02:50 AM
On 28 Jul 2006 00:02:32 -0700, "socratus" <israelsad@bezeqint.net>
wrote:
- Refer: <1154070152.291138.306320@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

=========
Can we using formulas and equations of physics
to know anything about the God ?
Is it possible to explain religion with the help of the
physical and mathematical theorems?
Yes. It is possible.
Because creating all MATERIAL WORLD the God
could only working in an absolute reference system
and only under physical and mathematical laws.

:
I warned you to not stop taking your medicine.
Now look what has happened.
You are barking mad again.
--
.

User: "Michael Gray"

Title: Re: Can we using formulas to know anything about the God ? 29 Jul 2006 06:39:41 AM
On 28 Jul 2006 21:07:40 -0700, "socratus" <israelsad@bezeqint.net>
wrote:
- Refer: <1154146060.898992.266760@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>


"The formulas are cleverer than people".
H. Hertz.

No thoughts of your own?
--
.

User: "Michael Gray"

Title: Re: Can we using formulas to know anything about the God ? 29 Jul 2006 06:40:21 AM
On 28 Jul 2006 21:11:40 -0700, "socratus" <israelsad@bezeqint.net>
wrote:
- Refer: <1154146300.236133.290010@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>


"If there are Gods,
how would I keep
not to be one of them."
Nietzsche.

More zero input from the master of new age math *****.
--
.

User: "Michael Gray"

Title: Re: Can we using formulas to know anything about the God ? 29 Jul 2006 06:39:03 AM
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 19:12:59 -0400,
wrote:
- Refer: <qv5lc2h9fmrnar05r29n2ujldi01no5i6l@4ax.com>

On 28 Jul 2006 00:02:32 -0700, "socratus" <israelsad@bezeqint.net>
wrote:

=========
Can we using formulas and equations of physics
to know anything about the God ?
Is it possible to explain religion with the help of the
physical and mathematical theorems?
Yes. It is possible.
Because creating all MATERIAL WORLD the God
could only working in an absolute reference system
and only under physical and mathematical laws.
========================


All based on the bad assumption that God exists. Who's mathematical
laws would God use?

You can paint God then attribute all pictures to him. It's a fucking
PAINTING!

You are saying, in essence, that if God existed, he'd exist and be
provable.

You don't think we'd miss a God that meets your specs if it actually
existed, now, would you?
Sunyata

I am a professional mathematician, and I am therefore entirely
qualified to make the judgement that 'scrotus' is dribbling utter
crap. (From a math standpoint)
As an atheist, I judge that he is dribbling incoherent new-age crap.
(From a theological standpoint.)
--
.
User: "socratus"

Title: Re: Can we using formulas to know anything about the God ? 29 Jul 2006 09:07:31 AM
Mathematics only servant of physics.
When the servant (a professional mathematician)
wants to be the king then begins
Great revolution (French, Soviet).
Save us the God from it.
I prefer an evolution.
====================
One mathematician came to give a lecture.
There is nobody in the classroom, but he has a plan
and he begins his monologue. Becoming enthusiastic
he suddenly notices two students in the room.
He continues the lecture joyfully and after some time
he notices that three of them are going away.
"Here it is,- mathematician thinks sadly,-
now one more student will come and nobody will be here again".
.
User: "Josef Balluch"

Title: Re: Can we using formulas to know anything about the God ? 29 Jul 2006 10:37:10 AM
In a message sent 'round the world, socratus poured fuel on the fire
with the following:

Mathematics only servant of physics.
When the servant (a professional mathematician)
wants to be the king then begins
Great revolution (French, Soviet).
Save us the God from it.

According to you, your deity is subservient to both mathematical and
physical laws. Thus your deity is a bit too low on the totem pole to
prevent the revolution.

I prefer an evolution.

That's fortunate, since you certainly have plenty of room for
improvement.
Regards,
Josef
Doubt is not a pleasant state, but certainty is a ridiculous one.
-- Voltaire
.

User: "Michael Gray"

Title: Re: Can we using formulas to know anything about the God ? 29 Jul 2006 07:07:19 PM
On 29 Jul 2006 07:07:31 -0700, "socratus" <israelsad@bezeqint.net>
wrote:
- Refer: <1154182050.989860.134460@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

Mathematics only servant of physics.
When the servant (a professional mathematician)
wants to be the king then begins
Great revolution (French, Soviet).
Save us the God from it.
I prefer an evolution.
====================
One mathematician came to give a lecture.
There is nobody in the classroom, but he has a plan
and he begins his monologue. Becoming enthusiastic
he suddenly notices two students in the room.
He continues the lecture joyfully and after some time
he notices that three of them are going away.
"Here it is,- mathematician thinks sadly,-
now one more student will come and nobody will be here again".

Stop doing recreational drugs, man.
They have fucked up your brain something awful.
Book yourself into a mental hospital immediately.
--
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Can we using formulas to know anything about the God ? 30 Jul 2006 03:40:51 PM
On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 09:37:19 +0930, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:

On 29 Jul 2006 07:07:31 -0700, "socratus" <israelsad@bezeqint.net>
wrote:
- Refer: <1154182050.989860.134460@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

Mathematics only servant of physics.
When the servant (a professional mathematician)
wants to be the king then begins
Great revolution (French, Soviet).
Save us the God from it.
I prefer an evolution.
====================
One mathematician came to give a lecture.
There is nobody in the classroom, but he has a plan
and he begins his monologue. Becoming enthusiastic
he suddenly notices two students in the room.
He continues the lecture joyfully and after some time
he notices that three of them are going away.
"Here it is,- mathematician thinks sadly,-
now one more student will come and nobody will be here again".


Stop doing recreational drugs, man.
They have fucked up your brain something awful.
Book yourself into a mental hospital immediately.

Actually get the correct meds by working with a doctor. If you must do
recreational stuff, stay natural, use pot. If it doesn't help, don't
use it.
Sunyata
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Can we using formulas to know anything about the God ? 31 Jul 2006 04:12:51 PM
On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 10:31:06 +0930, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:

On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 16:40:51 -0400,

wrote:
- Refer: <t66qc2lsrlgb5foankk73icc581mj8132p@4ax.com>

On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 09:37:19 +0930, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:

On 29 Jul 2006 07:07:31 -0700, "socratus" <israelsad@bezeqint.net>
wrote:
- Refer: <1154182050.989860.134460@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

Mathematics only servant of physics.
When the servant (a professional mathematician)
wants to be the king then begins
Great revolution (French, Soviet).
Save us the God from it.
I prefer an evolution.
====================
One mathematician came to give a lecture.
There is nobody in the classroom, but he has a plan
and he begins his monologue. Becoming enthusiastic
he suddenly notices two students in the room.
He continues the lecture joyfully and after some time
he notices that three of them are going away.
"Here it is,- mathematician thinks sadly,-
now one more student will come and nobody will be here again".


Stop doing recreational drugs, man.
They have fucked up your brain something awful.
Book yourself into a mental hospital immediately.



Actually get the correct meds by working with a doctor. If you must do
recreational stuff, stay natural, use pot. If it doesn't help, don't
use it.
Sunyata


For scrotus' case, I recommend the entirely natural, (and therefore
harmless), arsenic.
Or cyanide.

Wasn't hemlock, huh? :)
Sunyata
.
User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: Can we using formulas to know anything about the God ? 31 Jul 2006 04:12:46 PM
wrote in
news:6issc296d3oouueqhgchqd1tc3fudd2bsj@4ax.com:

On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 10:31:06 +0930, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:

On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 16:40:51 -0400,

wrote:
- Refer: <t66qc2lsrlgb5foankk73icc581mj8132p@4ax.com>

On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 09:37:19 +0930, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:

On 29 Jul 2006 07:07:31 -0700, "socratus" <israelsad@bezeqint.net>
wrote:
- Refer: <1154182050.989860.134460@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

Mathematics only servant of physics.
When the servant (a professional mathematician)
wants to be the king then begins
Great revolution (French, Soviet).
Save us the God from it.
I prefer an evolution.
====================
One mathematician came to give a lecture.
There is nobody in the classroom, but he has a plan
and he begins his monologue. Becoming enthusiastic
he suddenly notices two students in the room.
He continues the lecture joyfully and after some time
he notices that three of them are going away.
"Here it is,- mathematician thinks sadly,-
now one more student will come and nobody will be here again".


Stop doing recreational drugs, man.
They have fucked up your brain something awful.
Book yourself into a mental hospital immediately.



Actually get the correct meds by working with a doctor. If you must
do recreational stuff, stay natural, use pot. If it doesn't help,
don't use it.
Sunyata


For scrotus' case, I recommend the entirely natural, (and therefore
harmless), arsenic.
Or cyanide.



Wasn't hemlock, huh? :)

Foxglove is natural. So is belladonna, and it gives a *real* nice trip,
or so I'm told.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
.

User: "Michael Gray"

Title: Re: Can we using formulas to know anything about the God ? 31 Jul 2006 07:43:48 PM
On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 17:12:51 -0400,
wrote:
- Refer: <6issc296d3oouueqhgchqd1tc3fudd2bsj@4ax.com>

On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 10:31:06 +0930, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:

On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 16:40:51 -0400,

wrote:
- Refer: <t66qc2lsrlgb5foankk73icc581mj8132p@4ax.com>

On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 09:37:19 +0930, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:

On 29 Jul 2006 07:07:31 -0700, "socratus" <israelsad@bezeqint.net>
wrote:
- Refer: <1154182050.989860.134460@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

Mathematics only servant of physics.
When the servant (a professional mathematician)
wants to be the king then begins
Great revolution (French, Soviet).
Save us the God from it.
I prefer an evolution.
====================
One mathematician came to give a lecture.
There is nobody in the classroom, but he has a plan
and he begins his monologue. Becoming enthusiastic
he suddenly notices two students in the room.
He continues the lecture joyfully and after some time
he notices that three of them are going away.
"Here it is,- mathematician thinks sadly,-
now one more student will come and nobody will be here again".


Stop doing recreational drugs, man.
They have fucked up your brain something awful.
Book yourself into a mental hospital immediately.



Actually get the correct meds by working with a doctor. If you must do
recreational stuff, stay natural, use pot. If it doesn't help, don't
use it.
Sunyata


For scrotus' case, I recommend the entirely natural, (and therefore
harmless), arsenic.
Or cyanide.



Wasn't hemlock, huh? :)

I expect that socratus is now immune to such low-grade toxins a
hemlock, having consumed far stronger over the years.
--
.




User: "HomoBlaxican"

Title: Re: Can we using formulas to know anything about the God ? 29 Jul 2006 10:05:25 AM
socratus wrote:

Mathematics only servant of physics.
When the servant (a professional mathematician)
wants to be the king then begins
Great revolution (French, Soviet).
Save us the God from it.
I prefer an evolution.
====================
One mathematician came to give a lecture.
There is nobody in the classroom, but he has a plan
and he begins his monologue. Becoming enthusiastic
he suddenly notices two students in the room.
He continues the lecture joyfully and after some time
he notices that three of them are going away.
"Here it is,- mathematician thinks sadly,-
now one more student will come and nobody will be here again".

No it isn't.
=============================
What the hell? That's so friggin' retarded. And don't get me started
on the mistakes in it that make me wanna yell.
.



User: "Pastor Kutchie"

Title: Re: Can we using formulas to know anything about the God ? 28 Jul 2006 02:10:46 AM
socratus wrote:

=========
Can we using formulas and equations of physics
to know anything about the God ?
Is it possible to explain religion with the help of the
physical and mathematical theorems?

Sort of. Well, a chemical formula is all you need in fact. Here it is:
C2H5OH.
Consciousness is an effect, therefore it cannot be a first cause,
therefore there can be no God.
.

User: "HomoBlaxican"

Title: Re: Can we using formulas to know anything about the God ? 28 Jul 2006 02:59:34 AM
socratus wrote:

=========
Can we using formulas and equations of physics
to know anything about the God ?
Is it possible to explain religion with the help of the
physical and mathematical theorems?
Yes. It is possible.
Because creating all MATERIAL WORLD the God
could only working in an absolute reference system
and only under physical and mathematical laws.
========================
1.
What is absolute reference system?
==========
Now it is consider, that reference frame connected with
relict isotropic radiation T = 2,7K is absolute.
But T = 2,7K is not a constant factor.
This relict isotropic radiation continues to extend and decrease
and, hence, approximately over a period of
20 billions years will reach T=0K.
That is structure of Nothing, of Vacuum, of Absolute Zero.
2.
What a geometrical and physical parameters can the particles have in
the structure of Nothing, in Vacuum, in Absolute Zero in T=0K?
============
According to the laws of physics :
J. Charles ( 1787), Gay-Lussac ( 1802),
W. Nernst ( 1910), A. Einstein ( 1925)
particles in a Vacuum cannot have density, volume
and consequently should be flat figures.
===================
These laws tell, that
then closer to zero T=0K, then the particles lose more their volume.
The volume of these particles aspire to infinity.
And then this " infinity" comes the brain of physicists
stop to work. They refuse to think any more.
And I say when volume of the particles disappear they
become "flat phantoms".
These "flat phantoms" are not abstract particles, they are real
ones.
Quantums of light flies with speed c=1 have such geometrical form.
=========================
What is a quantum of light?
=============================
The secret of God and Existence hide
in the "Theory of light quanta".
Socratus.

Even though he created the material world, there is still the Heavens,
the nonphysical portion of reality that he made.
.
User: "Chris Johnson"

Title: Re: Can we using formulas to know anything about the God ? 28 Jul 2006 04:04:27 AM
HomoBlaxican wrote:

socratus wrote:

=========
Can we using formulas and equations of physics
to know anything about the God ?
Is it possible to explain religion with the help of the
physical and mathematical theorems?
Yes. It is possible.
Because creating all MATERIAL WORLD the God
could only working in an absolute reference system
and only under physical and mathematical laws.
========================
1.
What is absolute reference system?
==========
Now it is consider, that reference frame connected with
relict isotropic radiation T = 2,7K is absolute.
But T = 2,7K is not a constant factor.
This relict isotropic radiation continues to extend and decrease
and, hence, approximately over a period of
20 billions years will reach T=0K.
That is structure of Nothing, of Vacuum, of Absolute Zero.
2.
What a geometrical and physical parameters can the particles have in
the structure of Nothing, in Vacuum, in Absolute Zero in T=0K?
============
According to the laws of physics :
J. Charles ( 1787), Gay-Lussac ( 1802),
W. Nernst ( 1910), A. Einstein ( 1925)
particles in a Vacuum cannot have density, volume
and consequently should be flat figures.
===================
These laws tell, that
then closer to zero T=0K, then the particles lose more their volume.
The volume of these particles aspire to infinity.
And then this " infinity" comes the brain of physicists
stop to work. They refuse to think any more.
And I say when volume of the particles disappear they
become "flat phantoms".
These "flat phantoms" are not abstract particles, they are real
ones.
Quantums of light flies with speed c=1 have such geometrical form.
=========================
What is a quantum of light?
=============================
The secret of God and Existence hide
in the "Theory of light quanta".
Socratus.


Even though he created the material world, there is still the Heavens,
the nonphysical portion of reality that he made.

This is still an unsupported assertion. That you repeat it as if it
were a fact does not lend any credibility to it.
Here's a prompt for you to begin explaining your theories:
What is meant by stating that something nonphysical exists is
_________________________.
Feel free to write in the margins if that line isn't long enough.
.



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