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"quibbler" |
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12 Oct 2003 12:57:10 PM |
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Car hits praying morons proving that *Prayer kills* |
A car slammed into a group of high school jocks, praying on the side of
the road. One died and three were seriously injured. I'm sure there
will be some lame apology as to why jebus allowed these clueless kids
to be blind sided by an automobile, while deep in hypnotic prayer to
the imaginary being. But it does go to show that prayer is a dangerous
thing. Surely if lightning struck an atheist while he was blaspheming
their gawd, the story would appear on every pulpit by next Sunday. It
would be proof of the "wrongness" of the atheist life style. Well,
apparently the life of stuporous prayer is not particularly safe
either. I haven't heard of a lot of atheists dying because of their
religious views. But I hear of people dying all the time because of
their bizarre religious practices.
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http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/Southwest/10/12/students.hit.ap/index.html
LULING, Texas (AP) -- A car struck a group of high school cross country
runners who had gathered to pray on the side of a highway, killing one
and injuring at least three others, police said.
The accident happened early Saturday as the 10 Luling High School
students were about to embark on their morning two-mile run, the Austin
American-Statesman reported in its Sunday editions.
The driver has not been charged, police said.
One student died at a hospital in Luling. Three others were transported
by helicopter to a hospital in Austin, where one was treated and
released and another was listed in good condition Saturday night.
Information on the third runner was not available.
Others in the group suffered minor injuries.
Police did not release the students' names.
Luling is about 40 miles south of Austin.
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Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
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| User: "Maverick" |
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| Title: Re: Car hits praying morons proving that *Prayer kills* |
13 Oct 2003 07:47:59 AM |
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10/13/2003, around 08:15:14 AM, bob young wrote:
quibbler wrote:
A car slammed into a group of high school jocks, praying on the
side of the road. One died and three were seriously injured. I'm
sure there will be some lame apology as to why jebus allowed these
clueless kids to be blind sided by an automobile, while deep in
hypnotic prayer to the imaginary being. But it does go to show
that prayer is a dangerous thing. Surely if lightning struck an
atheist while he was blaspheming their gawd, the story would appear
on every pulpit by next Sunday. It would be proof of the
"wrongness" of the atheist life style. Well, apparently the life
of stuporous prayer is not particularly safe either. I haven't
heard of a lot of atheists dying because of their religious views.
But I hear of people dying all the time because of their bizarre
religious practices.
The Egyptian twins separated at the head today in a Dallas childrens
hospital are doing well.
The parents in Egypt have said they put their faith in Allah for their
full recovery.
This means, I guess, either Allah is guiding the hands fo the infidel
surgical team, or there is no such thing as Allah.
you choose
Good point!
This annoys me though, that people go to a hospital, to get treatment
by educated and highly skilled doctors... only to trust god to save
their lives. Why not just stay home, and pray? If they CAN trust god,
that is. I wonder why people do not give all credit to the doctors.
Ungrateful is what it is.
"It would be very nice if there were a God who created the world and
was a benevolent providence, and if there were a moral order in the
universe and an after-life; but it is a very striking fact that all
this is exactly as we are bound to wish it to be."
[Sigmund Freud]
I'm saving this one...
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Car hits praying morons proving that *Prayer kills* |
13 Oct 2003 10:13:56 PM |
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On 13 Oct 2003 01:15:14 -0500, bob young <alaspectrum@netvigator.com>,
Message ID: <83DB60E9.C58D7938@netvigator.com> wrote in alt.atheism;
quibbler wrote:
A car slammed into a group of high school jocks, praying on the side of
the road. One died and three were seriously injured. I'm sure there
will be some lame apology as to why jebus allowed these clueless kids
to be blind sided by an automobile, while deep in hypnotic prayer to
the imaginary being. But it does go to show that prayer is a dangerous
thing. Surely if lightning struck an atheist while he was blaspheming
their gawd, the story would appear on every pulpit by next Sunday. It
would be proof of the "wrongness" of the atheist life style. Well,
apparently the life of stuporous prayer is not particularly safe
either. I haven't heard of a lot of atheists dying because of their
religious views. But I hear of people dying all the time because of
their bizarre religious practices.
The Egyptian twins separated at the head today in a Dallas childrens
hospital are doing well.
The parents in Egypt have said they put their faith in Allah for their
full recovery.
This means, I guess, either Allah is guiding the hands fo the infidel
surgical team, or there is no such thing as Allah.
But then I doubt if they praised Allah for the infliction in the first
place.
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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| User: "spakka" |
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| Title: Re: Car hits praying morons proving that *Prayer kills* |
12 Oct 2003 05:29:02 PM |
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quibbler wrote:
A car slammed into a group of high school jocks, praying on the side of
the road.
Perhaps they were praying for a way to get out of having to do the
cross country run. Hallelujah.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Car hits praying morons proving that *Prayer kills* |
12 Oct 2003 11:49:53 PM |
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On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 22:29:02 GMT, spakka <usenet_spam@m16.demon.co.uk>
wrote:
quibbler wrote:
A car slammed into a group of high school jocks, praying on the side of
the road.
Perhaps they were praying for a way to get out of having to do the
cross country run. Hallelujah.
Such funny, funny caring people you are.
atheist@home#1554
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| User: "quibbler" |
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| Title: Re: Car hits praying morons proving that *Prayer kills* |
13 Oct 2003 10:45:47 AM |
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In article <nkbkovchk5ep0et52309oncu58sppn150p@4ax.com>,
atheist@home.com says...
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 22:29:02 GMT, spakka <usenet_spam@m16.demon.co.uk>
wrote:
quibbler wrote:
A car slammed into a group of high school jocks, praying on the side of
the road.
Perhaps they were praying for a way to get out of having to do the
cross country run. Hallelujah.
Such funny, funny caring people you are.
Take a deep breath and r-e-l-a-x. Don't kill yourself stressing over
perfectly innocent snuff humor.
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Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Car hits praying morons proving that *Prayer kills* |
14 Oct 2003 12:24:28 AM |
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On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 09:45:47 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com>
wrote:
In article <nkbkovchk5ep0et52309oncu58sppn150p@4ax.com>,
atheist@home.com says...
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 22:29:02 GMT, spakka <usenet_spam@m16.demon.co.uk>
wrote:
quibbler wrote:
A car slammed into a group of high school jocks, praying on the side of
the road.
Perhaps they were praying for a way to get out of having to do the
cross country run. Hallelujah.
Such funny, funny caring people you are.
Take a deep breath and r-e-l-a-x. Don't kill yourself stressing over
perfectly innocent snuff humor.
It just doesn't sit right with me.
It's childish and cruel.
What sort of mind can find such a thing humorous?
The sort perhaps that can sit among it's friends in the local tavern
telling jokes and laughing about dead Christians or Jews until they
have finally drank enough beer that they end up agreeing that all
Christians and Jews are evil and stupid and should have the *****
kicked out of them on general principle?"
The kind that then goes out looking for some Christian or Jewish *****
to kick?
How far is it after all from the thought to the word to the deed?
We *can* hang a *****, or toast a Jew...we *can* be convinced to hate
anybody who disagrees with us and be convinced that the Asian is
nothing more than a gook, the German a kraut, the Japanese a slope,
the Muslim a rag head, the white man a racist by nature and the
Christian or atheist a threat to our freedom.
All we need is the mindset that allows us to justify it.
And fortunately for the politician and priest that mindset is all to
common and all too easily cultivated.
But then we would *never* allow them to manipulate us would we?
We would never be a part of the mindless mob eh?
It just ain't possible.
Right?
Right.
atheist@home#1554
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| User: "Michelle Malkin" |
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| Title: Re: Car hits praying morons proving that *Prayer kills* |
15 Oct 2003 02:25:43 AM |
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On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 05:24:28 GMT, wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 09:45:47 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com>
wrote:
In article <nkbkovchk5ep0et52309oncu58sppn150p@4ax.com>,
says...
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 22:29:02 GMT, spakka <usenet_spam@m16.demon.co.uk>
wrote:
quibbler wrote:
A car slammed into a group of high school jocks, praying on the side of
the road.
Perhaps they were praying for a way to get out of having to do the
cross country run. Hallelujah.
Such funny, funny caring people you are.
Take a deep breath and r-e-l-a-x. Don't kill yourself stressing over
perfectly innocent snuff humor.
It just doesn't sit right with me.
It's childish and cruel.
What sort of mind can find such a thing humorous?
The sort perhaps that can sit among it's friends in the local tavern
telling jokes and laughing about dead Christians or Jews until they
have finally drank enough beer that they end up agreeing that all
Christians and Jews are evil and stupid and should have the *****
kicked out of them on general principle?"
The kind that then goes out looking for some Christian or Jewish *****
to kick?
How far is it after all from the thought to the word to the deed?
We *can* hang a *****, or toast a Jew...we *can* be convinced to hate
anybody who disagrees with us and be convinced that the Asian is
nothing more than a gook, the German a kraut, the Japanese a slope,
the Muslim a rag head, the white man a racist by nature and the
Christian or atheist a threat to our freedom.
All we need is the mindset that allows us to justify it.
And fortunately for the politician and priest that mindset is all to
common and all too easily cultivated.
But then we would *never* allow them to manipulate us would we?
We would never be a part of the mindless mob eh?
It just ain't possible.
Right?
Right.
atheist@home#1554
Strong words that I totally agree with. Anyone, including an atheist,
who finds humor in children being killed or injured merely because
they were praying at the time has a lot of thinking to do about their
personal ethics.
By the way, I found your month old message to me last night after
being rehooked up to Comcast e-mail (newsgroups will take a little
longer.) Did you get my reply? I wrote back to another message from
someone on a list I belong to, and he wrote back that he had gotten a
blank message. I have a feeling that a nice long discussion with a
Comcast technician will take place after work today.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Car hits praying morons proving that *Prayer kills* |
15 Oct 2003 01:21:42 PM |
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On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 07:25:43 GMT, Michelle Malkin
<hypatiab7@earthlink.net> wrote:
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 05:24:28 GMT, wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 09:45:47 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com>
wrote:
In article <nkbkovchk5ep0et52309oncu58sppn150p@4ax.com>,
says...
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 22:29:02 GMT, spakka <usenet_spam@m16.demon.co.uk>
wrote:
quibbler wrote:
A car slammed into a group of high school jocks, praying on the side of
the road.
Perhaps they were praying for a way to get out of having to do the
cross country run. Hallelujah.
Such funny, funny caring people you are.
Take a deep breath and r-e-l-a-x. Don't kill yourself stressing over
perfectly innocent snuff humor.
It just doesn't sit right with me.
It's childish and cruel.
What sort of mind can find such a thing humorous?
The sort perhaps that can sit among it's friends in the local tavern
telling jokes and laughing about dead Christians or Jews until they
have finally drank enough beer that they end up agreeing that all
Christians and Jews are evil and stupid and should have the *****
kicked out of them on general principle?"
The kind that then goes out looking for some Christian or Jewish *****
to kick?
How far is it after all from the thought to the word to the deed?
We *can* hang a *****, or toast a Jew...we *can* be convinced to hate
anybody who disagrees with us and be convinced that the Asian is
nothing more than a gook, the German a kraut, the Japanese a slope,
the Muslim a rag head, the white man a racist by nature and the
Christian or atheist a threat to our freedom.
All we need is the mindset that allows us to justify it.
And fortunately for the politician and priest that mindset is all to
common and all too easily cultivated.
But then we would *never* allow them to manipulate us would we?
We would never be a part of the mindless mob eh?
It just ain't possible.
Right?
Right.
atheist@home#1554
Strong words that I totally agree with. Anyone, including an atheist,
who finds humor in children being killed or injured merely because
they were praying at the time has a lot of thinking to do about their
personal ethics.
Just being detached from the reality I think.
I've been studying the French revolution, Russian history and the
history of the Vietnam dabacle along with a few other "people's
revolutions."
The one thing that stands out in all of them is the mindset that
allows the leaders to turn on the very people they claim to care so
much about.
It's a sort of arrogant attitude that they are somehow nobler than
other folks and are by nature on a higher moral level.
I think they get caught up in the political concepts and forget the
flesh and blood.
It's very prevalent in modern American politics I'm afraid.
I'm just wondering if there isn't a different way for us all to view
the people we disagree with other than demeaning them.
I'm afraid it too often leads to bloodshed.
I know in a.a. there are regulars who believe all Christians are
stupid and evil and many who believe all Republicans are the same.
Our leaders can always detract us from the real issues by convincing
us that the opposition are nothing more than fools or very bad people
and nothing they say has any value.
If we buy into it it can close our minds and make every disagreement
personal.
A dangerous thing for any society I think.
<I do my share of demeaning folks sometimes and I'm not happy with it>
At any rate a number of us post things in usenet that don't quite read
the same the next day.
By the way, I found your month old message to me last night after
being rehooked up to Comcast e-mail (newsgroups will take a little
longer.) Did you get my reply? I wrote back to another message from
someone on a list I belong to, and he wrote back that he had gotten a
blank message. I have a feeling that a nice long discussion with a
Comcast technician will take place after work today.
I got your message and will answer it today.
Some of us were wondering where you were and there was a rumor going
around that you had converted and joined a convent ;-)
atheist@home#1554
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| User: "Gregory Gadow" |
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| Title: Re: Car hits praying morons proving that *Prayer kills* |
13 Oct 2003 10:32:48 AM |
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quibbler wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/Southwest/10/12/students.hit.ap/index.html
LULING, Texas (AP) -- A car struck a group of high school cross country
runners who had gathered to pray on the side of a highway, killing one
and injuring at least three others, police said.
Elroy?
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Gregory Gadow
techbear@serv.net
http://www.serv.net/~techbear
"If you make yourself a sheep, the wolves will eat you."
-- Benjamin Franklin
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| User: "Bill, The Avender" |
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| Title: Re: Car hits praying morons proving that *Prayer kills* |
13 Oct 2003 01:18:22 PM |
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In alt.atheism on Mon, 13 Oct 2003 08:32:48 -0700, Gregory Gadow
<techbear@serv.net> wrote:
quibbler wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/Southwest/10/12/students.hit.ap/index.html
LULING, Texas (AP) -- A car struck a group of high school cross country
runners who had gathered to pray on the side of a highway, killing one
and injuring at least three others, police said.
Elroy?
As the driver that hit them? No. As the writer of the news article
as satire? Nope there, too, I'm sorry to say. :-(
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L8r,
Avender
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Common is the man who can be fashioned into a
reflection of the era in which he lives.
Rare is the man who can take the era in which
he lives, and fashion it into a reflection
of himself.
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