Religions > Atheism > Catholic Charities donations for hurricane relief top $100 million
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17 Nov 2005 05:57:55 AM |
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Catholic Charities donations for hurricane relief top $100 million |
I guess I missed all those articles about how much Jewish, Muslim, and
atheist organizations donated.
http://www.catholicexplorer.com/explore4325/nationworld/catholic-charities-donati.shtml
Catholic Charities donations for hurricane relief top $100 million
ALEXANDRIA, Va. (CNS) -- Catholic Charities USA has raised $101 million for
hurricane disaster relief and has allocated more than $36 million to 58
local Catholic Charities agencies and other Catholic organizations.
Across the country more than 80 local Catholic Charities agencies are
assisting hurricane victims by providing food, financial aid, clothing,
shelter, gas and retail store cards, and household goods; helping with
medical and prescription needs; offering cleanup assistance; helping victims
work with Federal Emergency Management Agency officials; and providing
crisis counseling, case management, transportation, job placement, and
temporary and long-term housing.
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| User: "George" |
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17 Nov 2005 09:13:39 PM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:RaidnSIKjunXgeHenZ2dnUVZ_tadnZ2d@giganews.com...
I guess I missed all those articles about how much Jewish, Muslim, and
atheist organizations donated.
Perhaps you mised the fact that there is a large Catholic population in New
Orleans, and that the Catholic Church own a considerable amount of property
there.
George
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| User: "serwad" |
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17 Nov 2005 10:43:27 AM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:RaidnSIKjunXgeHenZ2dnUVZ_tadnZ2d@giganews.com...
I guess I missed all those articles about how much Jewish, Muslim, and
atheist organizations donated.
MUSLIM COUNTRIES DONATED OVER FOUR BILLION DOLLARS TO THE KATRINA EFFORT,
CHECK IT OUT!
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| User: "Joseph Welch" |
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17 Nov 2005 08:10:24 AM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:RaidnSIKjunXgeHenZ2dnUVZ_tadnZ2d@giganews.com...
I guess I missed all those articles about how much Jewish, Muslim, and
atheist organizations donated.
http://www.catholicexplorer.com/explore4325/nationworld/catholic-charities-donati.shtml
Probably because it's a Catholic article in a Catholic publication about
Catholics you fucking nitwit. And you didn't fucking LOOK.
I'll spoon feed your lazy *****, though:
Atheist Community of Austin (ACA) Kicks off Katrina Relief Fund
http://www.atheist-community.org/news/news.php?id=42
Atheist Alliance International Katrina Relief Fund
http://order.kagi.com/cgi-bin/store.cgi?storeID=UQM&&
Secular Humanist Aid Relief Effort (SHARE) Hurricane Katrina Relief Fund
https://secure.ga3.org/05/donate_to_help_katrina_victims
United Jewish Communities
UJC and the Federations of North America have earmarked more than $2M to
help evacuees and support Jewish communities in Baton Rouge and New Orleans,
and assessing further needs.
http://www.ujc.org/
http://www.cairhouston.org/CU75.htm#3
UPDATE: Local Muslim Community efforts to help Hurricane Victims in Houston
***The following is a PARTIAL list of the various efforts that the Muslim
Community of Houston is making to help our new neighbors from Louisiana ***
ACC
Arab American Cultural & Community Center (ACC) along with other Arab
American community organizations and volunteers will be collecting food and
supplies starting Saturday, September 3 rd through Monday, September 5 th
from 10 AM - 5PM will be collecting the following items:
Let the families affected by Hurricane Katrina know we stand with them
during this difficult time.
Al-Noor
Al-Noor Society with the help of 6 other Masajid (Mosques) will be taking
supplies on Saturday to Lake Charles.
ASIA Society
The American Society for Islamic Awareness ( ASIA Society) has directed
refugee families to a home and is working on finding more alternate homes.
The space is over crowding please contact to help.
CAIR-Houston
The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR-Houston) together with ISGH
and Crescent Youth are coordinating a blood drive to replenish the supply on
September 30, 2005 . The drive will happen at three locations across Houston
Crescent Youth
Crescent Youth is coordinating area High School Muslim Students Associations
(MSA) in a competition to collect toiletries and non-perishable food items.
El-Farouq
Masjid El-Farouq is currently sponsoring refugee families and is
distributing other forms of assistance as well.
ICNA-Houston
Islamic Circle of North America (INCA-Houston) is organizing a team going to
Baton Rouge Friday after Juma prayers on 9/2/05.
ICNA has a coordinator with Islamic Center of Baton Rouge assisting
approximately 200 families and need your support in raising $250,000 across
country.
IEC
The Islamic Education Center (IEC) is collecting food items to go straight
to the Houston Food Bank.
IEC has started a Katrina account and has enrolled 20 new students in the Al
Hadi School from Louisiana, the fulltime school offers grades K-12.
ISGH
Islamic Society of Greater Houston (ISGH) is setting up 50 gallon drums at
various locations and two trailers at their north locations for collection
of non-perishable food items, personal hygiene items and other needed items.
ISGH is also presenting several locations to the Red Cross for possible
certification as temporary refugee centers.
ISGH has information on a limited number of apartments available for
Hurricane Katrina victims and have started a Katrina account as well.
Madrassa Islamia
Madrassa Islamia is sponsoring refugees coming from Louisiana some are
staying in the Masajid and they have vacated several apartments to house
women and children.
MAS-Houston
Muslim American Society of Houston (MAS-Houston) is assisting families and
refugees to find lodging; they have access to three shelters, and organizing
options on other locations.
MAS-Houston has already helped place families in living quarters and has a
central office coordinating this effort.
MHPS
The Muslim Health Professional Society (MHPS) is gathering names and
contacts of Muslim doctors who would like to donate their services and time
to help refugees in Houston.
MHPS is urgently appealing to all the Licensed (Unrestricted) Internal
Medicine, Family Practice & Primary Care Physicians and Specialists, to
sign-up for Duty
PACT, PAT & PAST
Pakistan American Council of Texas (PACT), Pakistani American Association of
Texas (PAT) and Pakistan American Society of Texas (PAST) on Saturday Sept.
3, 2005 between 10.00 AM and 4.00 PM and Sunday Sept. 4, 2005 between 12
Noon and 4.00 PM will be collecting:
Canned Food, Medicine, Diapers, Baby Food, Bottled Water, Blankets and
Sheets, Paper Goods, Cleaning Supplies, Non Perishable Goods, Peanut Butter
PAGH
Pakistani American Association of Greater Houston is situating families in
various apartments and that they are serving meals on daily basis along with
providing basic needs and logistic support including jobs, food stamps, FEMA
support and etc.
PAGH has also collected substantial food and clothing available to serve
families and more donations are pouring in every hour. This relief center is
open to all persons. Everyone is welcome to come and get supplies they need.
--
JW
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"You've done enough. Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last? Have
you left no sense of decency?"
http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/welch-mccarthy.html
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| User: "" |
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17 Nov 2005 02:02:46 PM |
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On 17-Nov-2005, "Joseph Welch" <seattledemocracy@freewebspace.com> wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:RaidnSIKjunXgeHenZ2dnUVZ_tadnZ2d@giganews.com...
I guess I missed all those articles about how much Jewish, Muslim, and
atheist organizations donated.
http://www.catholicexplorer.com/explore4325/nationworld/catholic-charities-donati.shtml
Probably because it's a Catholic article in a Catholic publication about
Catholics you fucking nitwit. And you didn't fucking LOOK.
I'll spoon feed your lazy *****, though:
While I thank you for correcting his bile, you know very well that *he*
knew he was full of fertilizer, and that he deliberately didn't bother to
find out the facts before trolling for hatred.
Susan
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| User: "Joseph Welch" |
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17 Nov 2005 04:42:07 PM |
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<flaviaR@verizon.net> wrote in message news:a40ff.21691$w85.8316@trnddc02...
While I thank you for correcting his bile, you know very well that *he*
knew he was full of fertilizer, and that he deliberately didn't bother to
find out the facts before trolling for hatred.
And?
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JW
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"You've done enough. Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last? Have
you left no sense of decency?"
http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/welch-mccarthy.html
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| User: "" |
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17 Nov 2005 08:16:07 PM |
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On 17-Nov-2005, "Joseph Welch" <seattledemocracy@freewebspace.com> wrote:
<flaviaR@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:a40ff.21691$w85.8316@trnddc02...
While I thank you for correcting his bile, you know very well that *he*
knew he was full of fertilizer, and that he deliberately didn't bother
to
find out the facts before trolling for hatred.
And?
And what?
I thank you for correcting his crap, and I pointed out that he
was being gisingenuous in posting in the first place, that
he knew he was lying before hand. Did I miss something?
Susan
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| User: "Joseph Welch" |
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17 Nov 2005 09:30:14 PM |
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<flaviaR@verizon.net> wrote in message news:by5ff.22546$Mr4.2349@trnddc08...
And?
And what?
And why are you pointing out the obvious as if I didn't already understand
that?
I thank you for correcting his crap, and I pointed out that he
was being gisingenuous in posting in the first place, that
he knew he was lying before hand. Did I miss something?
Yes, apparently you've mistaken me for a damned fool.
--
JW
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"You've done enough. Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last? Have
you left no sense of decency?"
http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/welch-mccarthy.html
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| User: "" |
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18 Nov 2005 12:34:37 AM |
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On 17-Nov-2005, "Joseph Welch" <seattledemocracy@freewebspace.com> wrote:
<flaviaR@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:by5ff.22546$Mr4.2349@trnddc08...
And?
And what?
And why are you pointing out the obvious as if I didn't already understand
Why did you ask him, then, as if you *didn;t* know that he knew he was
lying?
that?
I thank you for correcting his crap, and I pointed out that he
was being gisingenuous in posting in the first place, that
he knew he was lying before hand. Did I miss something?
Yes, apparently you've mistaken me for a damned fool.
Maybe it was because you acted as if you didn't know.
Susan
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| User: "Joseph Welch" |
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18 Nov 2005 12:38:41 AM |
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<flaviaR@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:xk9ff.22592$5R4.20280@trnddc06...
And why are you pointing out the obvious as if I didn't already
understand
Why did you ask him, then, as if you *didn;t* know that he knew he was
lying?
Ask him what? Go back to my post and identify the sentence with the
question mark in it - because I don't see one.
Maybe it was because you acted as if you didn't know.
Didn't know what?
Aside from the cites I provided, here are my comments in their entirety:
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Him: "I guess I missed all those articles about how much Jewish, Muslim,
and atheist organizations donated."
Me: Probably because it's a Catholic article in a Catholic publication
about Catholics you fucking nitwit. And you didn't fucking LOOK.
I'll spoon feed your lazy *****, though:
*********************
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JW
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"You've done enough. Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last? Have
you left no sense of decency?"
http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/welch-mccarthy.html
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| User: "Parsifal" |
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17 Nov 2005 06:59:26 AM |
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*I guess I missed all those articles about how much Jewish, *Muslim,
and atheist organizations donated.
Is this a competition? I thought charity was a generous act made
without the thought of getting anything in return...
And isn't vanity considered a sin in your religion?
Beside, there aren't atheist associations per se... Guess what, there
isn't an "association of brown-haired people" as well in the list of
contributors. Do you assume then than no person with brown hair has
sent money? And no "glass-wearing people assocation" either... Did only
people with perfect eyesight give something?
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| User: "Joseph Welch" |
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17 Nov 2005 08:12:14 AM |
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"Parsifal" <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1132210766.536739.188000@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
*I guess I missed all those articles about how much Jewish, *Muslim,
and atheist organizations donated.
Is this a competition?
A competition to see who knows how to use Google and who doesn't.
Beside, there aren't atheist associations per se...
That's ridiculous. Of course there are, and most of them have Katrina
relief funds and efforts underway.
Jews and Muslims (especially Muslims) do, too:
Atheist Community of Austin (ACA) Kicks off Katrina Relief Fund
http://www.atheist-community.org/news/news.php?id=42
Atheist Alliance International Katrina Relief Fund
http://order.kagi.com/cgi-bin/store.cgi?storeID=UQM&&
Secular Humanist Aid Relief Effort (SHARE) Hurricane Katrina Relief Fund
https://secure.ga3.org/05/donate_to_help_katrina_victims
United Jewish Communities
UJC and the Federations of North America have earmarked more than $2M to
help evacuees and support Jewish communities in Baton Rouge and New Orleans,
and assessing further needs.
http://www.ujc.org/
http://www.cairhouston.org/CU75.htm#3
UPDATE: Local Muslim Community efforts to help Hurricane Victims in Houston
***The following is a PARTIAL list of the various efforts that the Muslim
Community of Houston is making to help our new neighbors from Louisiana ***
ACC
Arab American Cultural & Community Center (ACC) along with other Arab
American community organizations and volunteers will be collecting food and
supplies starting Saturday, September 3 rd through Monday, September 5 th
from 10 AM - 5PM will be collecting the following items:
Let the families affected by Hurricane Katrina know we stand with them
during this difficult time.
Al-Noor
Al-Noor Society with the help of 6 other Masajid (Mosques) will be taking
supplies on Saturday to Lake Charles.
ASIA Society
The American Society for Islamic Awareness ( ASIA Society) has directed
refugee families to a home and is working on finding more alternate homes.
The space is over crowding please contact to help.
CAIR-Houston
The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR-Houston) together with ISGH
and Crescent Youth are coordinating a blood drive to replenish the supply on
September 30, 2005 . The drive will happen at three locations across Houston
Crescent Youth
Crescent Youth is coordinating area High School Muslim Students Associations
(MSA) in a competition to collect toiletries and non-perishable food items.
El-Farouq
Masjid El-Farouq is currently sponsoring refugee families and is
distributing other forms of assistance as well.
ICNA-Houston
Islamic Circle of North America (INCA-Houston) is organizing a team going to
Baton Rouge Friday after Juma prayers on 9/2/05.
ICNA has a coordinator with Islamic Center of Baton Rouge assisting
approximately 200 families and need your support in raising $250,000 across
country.
IEC
The Islamic Education Center (IEC) is collecting food items to go straight
to the Houston Food Bank.
IEC has started a Katrina account and has enrolled 20 new students in the Al
Hadi School from Louisiana, the fulltime school offers grades K-12.
ISGH
Islamic Society of Greater Houston (ISGH) is setting up 50 gallon drums at
various locations and two trailers at their north locations for collection
of non-perishable food items, personal hygiene items and other needed items.
ISGH is also presenting several locations to the Red Cross for possible
certification as temporary refugee centers.
ISGH has information on a limited number of apartments available for
Hurricane Katrina victims and have started a Katrina account as well.
Madrassa Islamia
Madrassa Islamia is sponsoring refugees coming from Louisiana some are
staying in the Masajid and they have vacated several apartments to house
women and children.
MAS-Houston
Muslim American Society of Houston (MAS-Houston) is assisting families and
refugees to find lodging; they have access to three shelters, and organizing
options on other locations.
MAS-Houston has already helped place families in living quarters and has a
central office coordinating this effort.
MHPS
The Muslim Health Professional Society (MHPS) is gathering names and
contacts of Muslim doctors who would like to donate their services and time
to help refugees in Houston.
MHPS is urgently appealing to all the Licensed (Unrestricted) Internal
Medicine, Family Practice & Primary Care Physicians and Specialists, to
sign-up for Duty
PACT, PAT & PAST
Pakistan American Council of Texas (PACT), Pakistani American Association of
Texas (PAT) and Pakistan American Society of Texas (PAST) on Saturday Sept.
3, 2005 between 10.00 AM and 4.00 PM and Sunday Sept. 4, 2005 between 12
Noon and 4.00 PM will be collecting:
Canned Food, Medicine, Diapers, Baby Food, Bottled Water, Blankets and
Sheets, Paper Goods, Cleaning Supplies, Non Perishable Goods, Peanut Butter
PAGH
Pakistani American Association of Greater Houston is situating families in
various apartments and that they are serving meals on daily basis along with
providing basic needs and logistic support including jobs, food stamps, FEMA
support and etc.
PAGH has also collected substantial food and clothing available to serve
families and more donations are pouring in every hour. This relief center is
open to all persons. Everyone is welcome to come and get supplies they need.
--
JW
***************
"You've done enough. Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last? Have
you left no sense of decency?"
http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/welch-mccarthy.html
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| User: "The Pervert" |
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| Title: Re: Catholic Charities donations for hurricane relief top $100 million |
18 Nov 2005 02:34:27 AM |
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"Joseph Welch" <seattledemocracy@freewebspace.com> wrote in message
news:zXWef.377$yx3.78@fe02.buzzardnews.com...
"Parsifal" <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1132210766.536739.188000@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
*I guess I missed all those articles about how much Jewish, *Muslim,
and atheist organizations donated.
Is this a competition?
A competition to see who knows how to use Google and who doesn't.
Beside, there aren't atheist associations per se...
That's ridiculous. Of course there are, and most of them have Katrina
relief funds and efforts underway.
Jews and Muslims (especially Muslims) do, too:
(good stuff snipped for brevity Read it.)
I gotta give you credit. Your post dispassionately and thoroughly wrecked
Parsifal's post.
Well done.
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| User: "Parsifal" |
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18 Nov 2005 06:55:00 AM |
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*I gotta give you credit. Your post dispassionately and thoroughly
wrecked
*Parsifal's post.
Interestingly, Joseph Welsh and I seem to fight on the same side:
making J Young look like an idiot... Obviously, my posting wasn't clear
enough...
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| User: "The Pervert" |
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18 Nov 2005 10:43:57 AM |
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"Parsifal" <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1132296900.587500.285710@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
*I gotta give you credit. Your post dispassionately and thoroughly
wrecked
*Parsifal's post.
Interestingly, Joseph Welsh and I seem to fight on the same side:
making J Young look like an idiot... Obviously, my posting wasn't clear
enough...
Perhaps not. Give it another shot and perhaps your posting will be a bit
clearer... although I think J Young does a creditable job of making himself
look like an idiot. But anything you'd care to add would not be unwelcome.
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| User: "Rev. 11D Meow" |
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18 Nov 2005 11:49:47 AM |
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What A Bunch Of Gutter Slime...
"The Pervert" <pervert12@spambad.yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:J5CdnYE29ML5MuDenZ2dnUVZ_tadnZ2d@comcast.com...
"Parsifal" <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1132296900.587500.285710@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
*I gotta give you credit. Your post dispassionately and thoroughly
wrecked
*Parsifal's post.
Interestingly, Joseph Welsh and I seem to fight on the same side:
making J Young look like an idiot... Obviously, my posting wasn't clear
enough...
Perhaps not. Give it another shot and perhaps your posting will be a bit
clearer... although I think J Young does a creditable job of making
himself
look like an idiot. But anything you'd care to add would not be
unwelcome.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Catholic Charities donations for hurricane relief top $100 million |
17 Nov 2005 08:28:34 PM |
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Among leading donors: Cuba, Venezuela.
Negative contributions: American Red Cross, FEMA
Zero donation from: George W Bush
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| User: "Dubh Ghall" |
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17 Nov 2005 10:28:08 PM |
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On 16 Nov 2005 22:59:26 -0800, "Parsifal" <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com> wrote:
*I guess I missed all those articles about how much Jewish, *Muslim,
and atheist organizations donated.
A whole hundred million $ US.
The Pope, could loose that at the tables, on Saturday night, and the Vatican
would never miss the change.
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| User: "Al Smith" |
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| Title: Re: Catholic Charities donations for hurricane relief top $100 million |
18 Nov 2005 03:13:07 PM |
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Parsifal wrote:
*I guess I missed all those articles about how much Jewish, *Muslim,
and atheist organizations donated.
Is this a competition? I thought charity was a generous act made
without the thought of getting anything in return...
"Be careful not to do your 'acts of righteousness' before men, to be
seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in
heaven. So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with
trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to
be honored by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their
reward in full. But when you give to the needy, do not let your left
hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be in
secret. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward
you."
Matt 6:1-4
And isn't vanity considered a sin in your religion?
Beside, there aren't atheist associations per se... Guess what, there
isn't an "association of brown-haired people" as well in the list of
contributors. Do you assume then than no person with brown hair has
sent money? And no "glass-wearing people assocation" either... Did only
people with perfect eyesight give something?
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| User: "" |
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18 Nov 2005 05:58:34 PM |
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You've just given all the Christian-phobic Muslim-lovers on the left
hilarious panic attacks.
J Young wrote:
I guess I missed all those articles about how much Jewish, Muslim, and
atheist organizations donated.
http://www.catholicexplorer.com/explore4325/nationworld/catholic-charities-donati.shtml
Catholic Charities donations for hurricane relief top $100 million
ALEXANDRIA, Va. (CNS) -- Catholic Charities USA has raised $101 million for
hurricane disaster relief and has allocated more than $36 million to 58
local Catholic Charities agencies and other Catholic organizations.
Across the country more than 80 local Catholic Charities agencies are
assisting hurricane victims by providing food, financial aid, clothing,
shelter, gas and retail store cards, and household goods; helping with
medical and prescription needs; offering cleanup assistance; helping victims
work with Federal Emergency Management Agency officials; and providing
crisis counseling, case management, transportation, job placement, and
temporary and long-term housing.
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| User: "Paul Duca" |
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| Title: Re: Catholic Charities donations for hurricane relief top $100million |
17 Nov 2005 09:28:06 AM |
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in article RaidnSIKjunXgeHenZ2dnUVZ_tadnZ2d@giganews.com, J Young at
youngopinions@aol.com wrote on 11/17/05 12:57 AM:
I guess I missed all those articles about how much Jewish, Muslim, and
atheist organizations donated.
Or how much of that was given by Catholics who expect to have it
returned to them in the next world--bread upon the waters, you know.
Paul
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