Religions > Atheism > Catholic Church Says Babies Who Die From Abortion May Go to Heaven
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"J Young" |
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20 Apr 2007 11:09:46 PM |
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Catholic Church Says Babies Who Die From Abortion May Go to Heaven |
http://www.lifenews.com/int257.html
Vatican, City (LifeNews.com) -- The Pope has approved a Catholic
Church report that would revise the official teaching of the church on
whether babies who are not baptized would go to Heaven. The report
would theoretically cover babies who are the victims of abortion and
have not had a chance to be blessed by the sacrament.
Pope Benedict XVI signed off on the findings of the International
Theological Commission, which issued a document on the Catholic
concept of "limbo" on Originis, a documentary service that's part of
the Catholic News Service.
The commission said on its web site that there were "serious
theological and liturgical grounds for hope that unbaptized infants
who die will be saved and brought into eternal happiness even though
there is not an explicit teaching on this question found in
revelation."
"There are reasons to hope that God will save these infants precisely
because it was not possible (to baptize them)," it said.
Rev. Luis Ladaria, a Jesuit who an officer of the commission, told the
Associated Press, "We can say we have many reasons to hope that there
is salvation for these babies."
He told AP that no one can be sure what happens to babies who are
victims of abortion and don't get baptized because the Bible is silent
on the specific issue.
The Catholic Church does not have a formal teaching on the issue but
most Catholics have long believed the church's position is that babies
who die before baptism die with original sin and therefore do not go
to Heaven. Some theologians have said that the babies enter an eternal
state of happiness called limbo but do not have a formal, eternal
relationship with God.
However, the commission almost did away with the notion of limbo,
saying it is an "unduly restrictive view of salvation."
Both Benedict and Pope John Paul II authorized more teaching on the
issue because of the prevalence of abortion and the increasing number
of babies who die without receiving the sacrament of baptism.
The commission encouraged Catholic parents whose babies die to have
them baptized anyway so they can receive salvation.
The title of the document is the "The Hope of Salvation for Infants
Who Die Without Being Baptised."
Related web sites:
Origins - http://www.originsonline.com
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| User: "Paul Duca" |
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| Title: Re: Catholic Church Says Babies Who Die From Abortion May Go toHeaven |
21 Apr 2007 01:41:07 PM |
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Then let's send MORE of them there!!!
Paul
While J Yo waits in resentment...
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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21 Apr 2007 01:32:30 AM |
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Vatican, City (LifeNews.com) -- The Pope has approved a Catholic
Church report that would revise the official teaching of the church on
whether babies who are not baptized would go to Heaven. The report
would theoretically cover babies who are the victims of abortion and
have not had a chance to be blessed by the sacrament.
Does anybody else get the idea that they're making this ***** up
as they go?
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "BOB" |
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| Title: Re: Catholic Church Says Babies Who Die From Abortion May Go to Heaven |
21 Apr 2007 09:34:32 AM |
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(Ray Fischer) wrote in news:4629affe$0$14064
$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net:
Vatican, City (LifeNews.com) -- The Pope has approved a Catholic
Church report that would revise the official teaching of the church on
whether babies who are not baptized would go to Heaven. The report
would theoretically cover babies who are the victims of abortion and
have not had a chance to be blessed by the sacrament.
Does anybody else get the idea that they're making this ***** up
as they go?
Absolutely!
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Catholic Church Says Babies Who Die From Abortion May Go to Heaven |
21 Apr 2007 07:02:32 AM |
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On 21 Apr 2007 06:32:30 GMT, (Ray Fischer) wrote:
Vatican, City (LifeNews.com) -- The Pope has approved a Catholic
Church report that would revise the official teaching of the church on
whether babies who are not baptized would go to Heaven. The report
would theoretically cover babies who are the victims of abortion and
have not had a chance to be blessed by the sacrament.
Does anybody else get the idea that they're making this ***** up
as they go?
No.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "Syd" |
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| Title: Re: Catholic Church Says Babies Who Die From Abortion May Go to Heaven |
21 Apr 2007 10:57:30 AM |
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On Apr 21, 8:02 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
On 21 Apr 2007 06:32:30 GMT, (Ray Fischer) wrote:
Vatican, City (LifeNews.com) -- The Pope has approved a Catholic
Church report that would revise the official teaching of the church on
whether babies who are not baptized would go to Heaven. The report
would theoretically cover babies who are the victims of abortion and
have not had a chance to be blessed by the sacrament.
Does anybody else get the idea that they're making this ***** up
as they go?
No.
He meant anyone with a working mind, Dork..
PDW
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| User: "duke" |
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21 Apr 2007 01:18:32 PM |
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On 21 Apr 2007 08:57:30 -0700, Syd <pdwright42@yahoo.com> wrote:
Does anybody else get the idea that they're making this ***** up
as they go?
No.
He meant anyone with a working mind, Dork..
Well, that leaves you out.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "Syd" |
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| Title: Re: Catholic Church Says Babies Who Die From Abortion May Go to Heaven |
21 Apr 2007 03:31:20 PM |
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On Apr 21, 2:18 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
On 21 Apr 2007 08:57:30 -0700, Syd <pdwrigh...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Does anybody else get the idea that they're making this ***** up
as they go?
No.
He meant anyone with a working mind, Dork..
Well, that leaves you out.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
I'm not the one spouting support for a nazi pope, Dork.
You are.
PDW
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Catholic Church Says Babies Who Die From Abortion May Go to Heaven |
22 Apr 2007 08:59:42 AM |
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On 21 Apr 2007 13:31:20 -0700, Syd <pdwright42@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Apr 21, 2:18 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
On 21 Apr 2007 08:57:30 -0700, Syd <pdwrigh...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Does anybody else get the idea that they're making this ***** up
as they go?
No.
He meant anyone with a working mind, Dork..
Well, that leaves you out.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
I'm not the one spouting support for a nazi pope, Dork.
You are.
My guy is Vicar of Christ on earth.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "655321" |
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| Title: Re: Catholic Church Says Babies Who Die From Abortion May Go to Heaven |
22 Apr 2007 08:46:38 PM |
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In article <hhqm2398ncnrl6tmpnrcveh63qqn8boaa8@4ax.com>,
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
My guy
Coming out of the closet, Earl?
--
655321
"We are heroes in error" -- Ahmad Chalabi
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| User: "Syd" |
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| Title: Re: Catholic Church Says Babies Who Die From Abortion May Go to Heaven |
23 Apr 2007 02:45:57 PM |
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On Apr 22, 9:59 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
On 21 Apr 2007 13:31:20 -0700, Syd <pdwrigh...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Apr 21, 2:18 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
On 21 Apr 2007 08:57:30 -0700, Syd <pdwrigh...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Does anybody else get the idea that they're making this ***** up
as they go?
No.
He meant anyone with a working mind, Dork..
Well, that leaves you out.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
I'm not the one spouting support for a nazi pope, Dork.
You are.
My guy is Vicar of Christ on earth.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
Is that what his holiness, the Nazi Pope claims?
He's full of *****, and so are you, Earl..
PDW
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Catholic Church Says Babies Who Die From Abortion May Go to Heaven |
23 Apr 2007 04:23:52 PM |
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On 23 Apr 2007 12:45:57 -0700, Syd <pdwright42@yahoo.com> wrote:
I'm not the one spouting support for a nazi pope, Dork.
You are.
My guy is Vicar of Christ on earth.
Is that what his holiness, the Nazi Pope claims?
Nope, that's what Jesus told the Popes.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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| Title: Re: Catholic Church Says Babies Who Die From Abortion May Go to Heaven |
22 Apr 2007 12:33:38 AM |
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One fine day in alt.atheism, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> bloodied us up with
this:
On 21 Apr 2007 08:57:30 -0700, Syd <pdwright42@yahoo.com> wrote:
Does anybody else get the idea that they're making this ***** up
as they go?
No.
He meant anyone with a working mind, Dork..
Well, that leaves you out.
Turning words around to suit your own agenda does wonders for your
reputation, Errrrrrrl.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Convicted by Earthquack. Plonked by Fester.
Member Duke Spanking Club.
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Catholic Church Says Babies Who Die From Abortion May Go to Heaven |
22 Apr 2007 09:00:22 AM |
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On 22 Apr 2007 05:33:38 GMT, Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com> wrote:
Turning words around to suit your own agenda does wonders for your
reputation, Errrrrrrl.
I love my reputation here.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "Syd" |
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| Title: Re: Catholic Church Says Babies Who Die From Abortion May Go to Heaven |
23 Apr 2007 02:47:05 PM |
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On Apr 22, 10:00 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
On 22 Apr 2007 05:33:38 GMT, Uncle Vic <addr...@withheld.com> wrote:
Turning words around to suit your own agenda does wonders for your
reputation, Errrrrrrl.
I love my reputation here.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
That's not a great endorsment, Dork, considering your rep here..
PDW
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Catholic Church Says Babies Who Die From Abortion May Go to Heaven |
23 Apr 2007 04:24:50 PM |
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On 23 Apr 2007 12:47:05 -0700, Syd <pdwright42@yahoo.com> wrote:
I love my reputation here.
That's not a great endorsment, Dork, considering your rep here..
I wear the badge of honor when an atheist puts me down.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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22 Apr 2007 11:10:35 AM |
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One fine day in alt.atheism, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> bloodied us up with
this:
On 22 Apr 2007 05:33:38 GMT, Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com> wrote:
Turning words around to suit your own agenda does wonders for your
reputation, Errrrrrrl.
I love my reputation here.
Just like Mark Earnest does.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Convicted by Earthquack. Plonked by Fester.
Member Duke Spanking Club.
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Catholic Church Says Babies Who Die From Abortion May Go to Heaven |
22 Apr 2007 04:17:19 PM |
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On 22 Apr 2007 16:10:35 GMT, Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com> wrote:
One fine day in alt.atheism, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> bloodied us up with
this:
On 22 Apr 2007 05:33:38 GMT, Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com> wrote:
Turning words around to suit your own agenda does wonders for your
reputation, Errrrrrrl.
I love my reputation here.
Just like Mark Earnest does.
Don't know him.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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| Title: Re: Catholic Church Says Babies Who Die From Abortion May Go to Heaven |
22 Apr 2007 11:20:52 PM |
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One fine day in alt.atheism, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> bloodied us up
with this:
On 22 Apr 2007 16:10:35 GMT, Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com> wrote:
One fine day in alt.atheism, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> bloodied us up
with this:
On 22 Apr 2007 05:33:38 GMT, Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com> wrote:
Turning words around to suit your own agenda does wonders for your
reputation, Errrrrrrl.
I love my reputation here.
Just like Mark Earnest does.
Don't know him.
Read the newsgroup. You'll find him. He could become your best friend.
He's easily as deluded as you are.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Convicted by Earthquack. Plonked by Fester.
Member Duke Spanking Club.
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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21 Apr 2007 03:27:07 PM |
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duke wrote:
On 21 Apr 2007 06:32:30 GMT, (Ray Fischer) wrote:
Vatican, City (LifeNews.com) -- The Pope has approved a Catholic
Church report that would revise the official teaching of the church on
whether babies who are not baptized would go to Heaven. The report
would theoretically cover babies who are the victims of abortion and
have not had a chance to be blessed by the sacrament.
Does anybody else get the idea that they're making this ***** up
as they go?
No.
We know you don't, duke.
--
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* DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
*----------------------------------------------------*
* "In every country and every age, the priest had *
* been hostile to Liberty." --Thomas Jefferson *
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Catholic Church Says Babies Who Die From Abortion May Go to Heaven |
22 Apr 2007 09:01:17 AM |
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On Sat, 21 Apr 2007 12:27:07 -0800, DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote:
Does anybody else get the idea that they're making this ***** up
as they go?
No.
We know you don't, duke.
That's right, I don't make it up as I go.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "655321" |
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| Title: Re: Catholic Church Says Babies Who Die From Abortion May Go to Heaven |
22 Apr 2007 08:45:42 PM |
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In article <4kqm23hl7ljo6iqd9osvpvs43k98hnq6pa@4ax.com>,
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Sat, 21 Apr 2007 12:27:07 -0800, DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com>
wrote:
Does anybody else get the idea that they're making this ***** up
as they go?
No.
We know you don't, duke.
That's right, I don't make it up as I go.
You don't have to. Someone else is doing all the making up for you. It
makes it easy for braindead parrots like you.
--
655321
"We are heroes in error" -- Ahmad Chalabi
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| User: "Syd" |
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| Title: Re: Catholic Church Says Babies Who Die From Abortion May Go to Heaven |
23 Apr 2007 02:47:51 PM |
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On Apr 22, 10:01 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
On Sat, 21 Apr 2007 12:27:07 -0800, DanielSan <daniel-...@myrealbox.com> wrote:
Does anybody else get the idea that they're making this ***** up
as they go?
No.
We know you don't, duke.
That's right, I don't make it up as I go.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
You just swallow it, hook line and sinker.
PDW
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Catholic Church Says Babies Who Die From Abortion May Go to Heaven |
23 Apr 2007 04:26:06 PM |
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On 23 Apr 2007 12:47:51 -0700, Syd <pdwright42@yahoo.com> wrote:
You just swallow it, hook line and sinker.
Christian - Win/no win. Atheist: lose/no win. No win comes into play if there
is no almighty God.
Now which one of us is looking the stupid one?
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "BOB" |
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| Title: Re: Catholic Church Says Babies Who Die From Abortion May Go to Heaven |
23 Apr 2007 06:43:47 PM |
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duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in
news:c19q2397njfhh5pngk0to4uogise6oki01@4ax.com:
On 23 Apr 2007 12:47:51 -0700, Syd <pdwright42@yahoo.com> wrote:
You just swallow it, hook line and sinker.
Christian - Win/no win. Atheist: lose/no win. No win comes into
play if there is no almighty God.
In that case, "no win" is in play puke and you lose.
Now which one of us is looking the stupid one?
That's too easy puke...you.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "BOB" |
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| Title: Re: Catholic Church Says Babies Who Die From Abortion May Go to Heaven |
22 Apr 2007 10:16:11 AM |
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duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in
news:4kqm23hl7ljo6iqd9osvpvs43k98hnq6pa@4ax.com:
On Sat, 21 Apr 2007 12:27:07 -0800, DanielSan
<daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote:
Does anybody else get the idea that they're making this ***** up
as they go?
No.
We know you don't, duke.
That's right, I don't make it up as I go.
You lie as you go, puke.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Catholic Church Says Babies Who Die From Abortion May Go to Heaven |
22 Apr 2007 04:17:43 PM |
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On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 15:16:11 GMT, BOB <sd@sd.net> wrote:
That's right, I don't make it up as I go.
You lie as you go, puke.
I never lie on the ng.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "Syd" |
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| Title: Re: Catholic Church Says Babies Who Die From Abortion May Go to Heaven |
23 Apr 2007 03:01:31 PM |
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On Apr 22, 5:17 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 15:16:11 GMT, BOB <s...@sd.net> wrote:
That's right, I don't make it up as I go.
You lie as you go, puke.
I never lie on the ng.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
BWWWWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
PDW, ROFLOL!
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| User: "BOB" |
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| Title: Re: Catholic Church Says Babies Who Die From Abortion May Go to Heaven |
22 Apr 2007 04:22:31 PM |
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duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in
news:67kn23passbv2819q51ufruo4df6muuo4e@4ax.com:
On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 15:16:11 GMT, BOB <sd@sd.net> wrote:
That's right, I don't make it up as I go.
You lie as you go, puke.
I never lie on the ng.
You just lied again, puke. Old habits are hard to break.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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| Title: Re: Catholic Church Says Babies Who Die From Abortion May Go to Heaven |
22 Apr 2007 02:46:25 PM |
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duke wrote:
On Sat, 21 Apr 2007 12:27:07 -0800, DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote:
Does anybody else get the idea that they're making this ***** up
as they go?
No.
We know you don't, duke.
That's right, I don't make it up as I go.
We know you don't think so, duke. You get your marching orders from a
guy in a dress.
--
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* DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
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* "In every country and every age, the priest had *
* been hostile to Liberty." --Thomas Jefferson *
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| User: "Syd M." |
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| Title: Re: Catholic Church Says Babies Who Die From Abortion May Go to Heaven |
21 Apr 2007 01:43:48 AM |
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On Apr 21, 2:32 am, (Ray Fischer) wrote:
Vatican, City (LifeNews.com) -- The Pope has approved a Catholic
Church report that would revise the official teaching of the church on
whether babies who are not baptized would go to Heaven. The report
would theoretically cover babies who are the victims of abortion and
have not had a chance to be blessed by the sacrament.
Does anybody else get the idea that they're making this ***** up
as they go?
--
Ray Fischer
You mean they weren't before?
PDW
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| User: "•R L Measures" |
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| Title: Re: Catholic Church Says Babies Who Die From Abortion May Go to Heaven |
21 Apr 2007 04:18:36 AM |
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In article <1177128586.032111.73370@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>, J Young
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
http://www.lifenews.com/int257.html
Vatican, City (LifeNews.com) -- The Pope has approved a Catholic
Church report that would revise the official teaching of the church on
whether babies who are not baptized would go to Heaven. ...
• Why wouldn't He give babies who die from abortion or miscarriage
another chance for a life on this planet?
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