Religions > Atheism > Catholic, faith-based HIV-AIDS efforts in forefront of treatment
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21 Mar 2007 11:34:24 PM |
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Catholic, faith-based HIV-AIDS efforts in forefront of treatment |
The Catholic Church's harshest critics will be predictably silent about this
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http://www.catholic.org/international/international_story.php?id=23473
Catholic, faith-based HIV-AIDS efforts in forefront of treatment,
undervalued, priest-expert says at Vatican
VATICAN CITY (Catholic Online) - Catholic and other faith-based
organizations have always been at the forefront of effort to fight HIV-AIDS,
according to a priest-expert on the issue.
Father Robert Vitillo, Caritas Internationalis special advisor on AIDS, told
a March 20 gathering of ambassadors to the Holy See here that Catholic and
other faith-based social-service agencies are often undervalued or
misrepresented in their work on the issue.
With some 11,000 new infections each day in 2006, the greatest burden of the
HIV pandemic is felt in developing countries. Sub-Saharan Africa is home to
64 percent of all people living with HIV, despite the fact that only
one-tenth the world's population lives there. The United Nations World
Health Organization estimates that one-fifth of all organizations engaged in
HIV programs are faith-based, and provide between 30 to 70 percent of
health-care services in many African countries.
More money than ever before has been made available for the global response
to AIDS, with $8.3 billion (USD) raised during 2005, much of that through
the Global Fund to Fight AIDS, Tuberculosis and Malaria and such efforts as
the U.S. President's Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief.
Caritas Internationalis is a confederation of 162 Catholic relief,
development and social-service organizations working in more than 200
countries and territories.
Father Vitillo said that faith-based organizations receive a tiny fraction
of funding from such donors as the Global Fund to Fight AIDS.
Global Fund officials explain that decisions on funding allocations are made
within the recipient countries. However, faith-based organizations often
report frustration and exclusion in response to their attempts at
participation in such decision-making processes.
"To meet the challenges of universal access to prevention, treatment and
care posed by HIV and AIDS, we need to match up the funds that already exist
with the people who are delivering the services, especially to the poor and
marginalized," the priest said.
"Recently, civil-society activists have proposed a dual-track system for
Global Fund applications - one that would allow direct application to the
Global Fund by civil society actors, including faith-based organizations,"
she said. "It is my sincere hope that donor governments and all Global Fund
board members will consider this proposal in a favorable manner."
He cited the best practice example of South Africa, where the Southern
Africa Catholic Bishops' Conference, in cooperation with various Catholic
funding agencies and local program partners, launched anti-retroviral
treatment in the region. With the help of the U.S. President's Emergency
Plan for AIDS Relief, the Southern African Catholic Bishops' Conference now
serves as the second largest provider of anti-retroviral treatment in South
Africa.
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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| Title: Re: Catholic, faith-based HIV-AIDS efforts in forefront of treatment |
21 Mar 2007 11:44:37 PM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
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The Catholic Church's harshest critics will be predictably silent about
this article.
Clearly the clergy wants their molestable young children healthy.
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Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
http://www.ashenempires.com
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| User: "BAM" |
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22 Mar 2007 07:55:26 AM |
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in message
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
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The Catholic Church's harshest critics will be predictably silent about
this article.
Clearly the clergy wants their molestable young children healthy.
You really see the big picture.
BAM
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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22 Mar 2007 05:49:25 AM |
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In News 1174538192_2301@sp6iad.superfeed.net,, J Young at
youngopinions@aol.com, typed this:
The Catholic Church's harshest critics will be predictably silent
about this article.
Are you saying that because they do some good in the world that the fact
that they protected pedophiles in their priesthood shoudl be overlooked?
My, but you really do have a warped sense of priorities.
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| User: "BAM" |
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22 Mar 2007 08:00:19 AM |
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"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAIL_2@FAM.NET> wrote in message
news:VatMh.15183$tD2.8746@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
In News 1174538192_2301@sp6iad.superfeed.net,, J Young at
youngopinions@aol.com, typed this:
The Catholic Church's harshest critics will be predictably silent
about this article.
Are you saying that because they do some good in the world that the fact
that they protected pedophiles in their priesthood shoudl be overlooked?
Hypocrite! You care nothing for children and have no sexual limitations.
Secondly, there were two pedophiles - no more, and two out of 5,000 bishops
have been accused, not convicted, not by society in general, but by the anti
catholics who feverishly look for ways to amplify the slightest perceived
infraction on the part of anyone in the Catholic hierarchy.
You have no church so there's no one to accuse. It's an easy go for you (at
least for now).
BAM
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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| Title: Re: Catholic, faith-based HIV-AIDS efforts in forefront of treatment |
22 Mar 2007 06:54:23 PM |
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In News Z6vMh.25507$68.19385@bignews8.bellsouth.net,, BAM at
mcca5761@blahblahbellsouth.net, typed this:
"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAIL_2@FAM.NET> wrote in message
news:VatMh.15183$tD2.8746@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
In News 1174538192_2301@sp6iad.superfeed.net,, J Young at
youngopinions@aol.com, typed this:
The Catholic Church's harshest critics will be predictably silent
about this article.
Are you saying that because they do some good in the world that the
fact that they protected pedophiles in their priesthood shoudl be
overlooked?
Hypocrite! You care nothing for children and have no sexual
limitations.
Nonsense. I care only for the children. You're trying to protect the
church.
Secondly, there were two pedophiles
You still don't get this, and you never will. It doesn't matter how many
pedophiles there were, 1, or 1001, it doesn't matter. What matters is that
Catholic Church's failure to report the offenders to the proper authority
instead of transferring them from parish to parish whenever the heat got too
intense. The church aided, protected, and therefore enabled these
offenders to molest hundreds of kids and teens over the course of decades.
That, and only that, is what matters in these cases. You don't get it, and
unless your church gets it and gets it fast, they will be shelling out
millions more.
Get a clue.
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| User: "H Dickmann" |
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| Title: Re: Catholic, faith-based HIV-AIDS efforts in forefront of treatment |
23 Mar 2007 02:19:45 AM |
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"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAIL_2@FAM.NET> wrote in message
news:PGEMh.13212$PL.1792@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net...
In News Z6vMh.25507$68.19385@bignews8.bellsouth.net,, BAM at
mcca5761@blahblahbellsouth.net, typed this:
"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAIL_2@FAM.NET> wrote in message
news:VatMh.15183$tD2.8746@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
In News 1174538192_2301@sp6iad.superfeed.net,, J Young at
youngopinions@aol.com, typed this:
The Catholic Church's harshest critics will be predictably silent
about this article.
Are you saying that because they do some good in the world that the
fact that they protected pedophiles in their priesthood shoudl be
overlooked?
Hypocrite! You care nothing for children and have no sexual
limitations.
Nonsense. I care only for the children. You're trying to protect the
church.
The Church doesn't own the Priests.
The Priests, Nuns, Bishops and even the Pope are voluntary workers who work
for the Church without wages.
Secondly, there were two pedophiles
You still don't get this, and you never will. It doesn't matter how many
pedophiles there were, 1, or 1001, it doesn't matter. What matters is
that Catholic Church's failure to report the offenders to the proper
authority instead of transferring them from parish to parish whenever the
heat got too intense. The church aided, protected, and therefore enabled
these offenders to molest hundreds of kids and teens over the course of
decades. That, and only that, is what matters in these cases. You don't
get it, and unless your church gets it and gets it fast, they will be
shelling out millions more.
Get a clue.
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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| Title: Re: Catholic, faith-based HIV-AIDS efforts in forefront of treatment |
23 Mar 2007 05:11:40 AM |
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In News lcLMh.724$M.67@news-server.bigpond.net.au,, H Dickmann at
herpem@bigpond.com, typed this:
"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAIL_2@FAM.NET> wrote in message
news:PGEMh.13212$PL.1792@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net...
In News Z6vMh.25507$68.19385@bignews8.bellsouth.net,, BAM at
mcca5761@blahblahbellsouth.net, typed this:
"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAIL_2@FAM.NET> wrote in message
news:VatMh.15183$tD2.8746@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
In News 1174538192_2301@sp6iad.superfeed.net,, J Young at
youngopinions@aol.com, typed this:
The Catholic Church's harshest critics will be predictably silent
about this article.
Are you saying that because they do some good in the world that the
fact that they protected pedophiles in their priesthood shoudl be
overlooked?
Hypocrite! You care nothing for children and have no sexual
limitations.
Nonsense. I care only for the children. You're trying to protect the
church.
The Church doesn't own the Priests.
The Priests, Nuns, Bishops and even the Pope are voluntary workers
who work for the Church without wages.
The priests, nuns, biships, and the pope are representatives, or agents, of
the church. Whether or not they are paid is not relevant.
Secondly, there were two pedophiles
You still don't get this, and you never will. It doesn't matter how
many pedophiles there were, 1, or 1001, it doesn't matter. What
matters is that Catholic Church's failure to report the offenders to
the proper authority instead of transferring them from parish to
parish whenever the heat got too intense. The church aided,
protected, and therefore enabled these offenders to molest hundreds
of kids and teens over the course of decades. That, and only that,
is what matters in these cases. You don't get it, and unless your
church gets it and gets it fast, they will be shelling out millions
more. Get a clue.
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| User: "bobandcarole" |
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| Title: Re: Catholic, faith-based HIV-AIDS efforts in forefront of treatment |
23 Mar 2007 07:33:30 AM |
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On Mar 23, 6:11=EF=BF=BDam, "Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAI...@FAM.NET> wrote:
In News lcLMh.724$M...@news-server.bigpond.net.au,, H Dickmann at
her...@bigpond.com, typed this:
"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAI...@FAM.NET> wrote in message
news:PGEMh.13212$PL.1792@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net...
In News Z6vMh.25507$68.19...@bignews8.bellsouth.net,, BAM at
mcca5...@blahblahbellsouth.net, typed this:
"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAI...@FAM.NET> wrote in message
news:VatMh.15183$tD2.8746@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
In News 1174538192_2...@sp6iad.superfeed.net,, J Young at
youngopini...@aol.com, typed this:
The Catholic Church's harshest critics will be predictably silent
about this article.
Are you saying that because they do some good in the world that the
fact that they protected pedophiles in their priesthood shoudl be
overlooked?
Hypocrite! You care nothing for children and have no sexual
limitations.
Nonsense. I care only for the children. =A0You're trying to protect the
church.
The Church doesn't own the Priests.
The Priests, Nuns, Bishops and even the Pope are voluntary workers
who work for the Church without wages.
The priests, nuns, biships, and the pope are representatives, or agents, =
of
the church. =A0Whether or not they are paid is not relevant.
Nothing you say is relevent, ArealPuss
Secondly, there were two pedophiles
You still don't get this, and you never will. =A0It doesn't matter how
many pedophiles there were, 1, or 1001, it doesn't matter. =A0What
matters is that Catholic Church's failure to report the offenders to
the proper authority instead of transferring them from parish to
parish whenever the heat got too intense. =A0 The church aided,
protected, and therefore enabled these offenders to molest hundreds
of kids and teens over the course of decades. That, and only that,
is what matters in these cases. =A0You don't get it, and unless your
church gets it and gets it fast, they will be shelling out millions
more. Get a clue.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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23 Mar 2007 04:23:36 PM |
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In News 1174653210.659762.169740@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com,, bobandcarole
at bobandcarole007@hotmail.com, typed this:
On Mar 23, 6:11?am, "Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAI...@FAM.NET> wrote:
In News lcLMh.724$M...@news-server.bigpond.net.au,, H Dickmann at
her...@bigpond.com, typed this:
"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAI...@FAM.NET> wrote in message
news:PGEMh.13212$PL.1792@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net...
In News Z6vMh.25507$68.19...@bignews8.bellsouth.net,, BAM at
mcca5...@blahblahbellsouth.net, typed this:
"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAI...@FAM.NET> wrote in message
news:VatMh.15183$tD2.8746@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
In News 1174538192_2...@sp6iad.superfeed.net,, J Young at
youngopini...@aol.com, typed this:
The Catholic Church's harshest critics will be predictably
silent about this article.
Are you saying that because they do some good in the world that
the fact that they protected pedophiles in their priesthood
shoudl be overlooked?
Hypocrite! You care nothing for children and have no sexual
limitations.
Nonsense. I care only for the children. You're trying to protect
the church.
The Church doesn't own the Priests.
The Priests, Nuns, Bishops and even the Pope are voluntary workers
who work for the Church without wages.
The priests, nuns, biships, and the pope are representatives, or
agents, of the church. Whether or not they are paid is not relevant.
Nothing I say is relevent, I'm a ArealPuss
Yes, you're one irrelevant dude.
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| User: "" |
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22 Mar 2007 11:15:46 AM |
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On Mar 22, 9:00 am, "BAM" <mcca5...@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
Are you saying that because they do some good in the world that the fact
that they protected pedophiles in their priesthood shoudl be overlooked?
Hypocrite! You care nothing for children and have no sexual limitations.
We care more about children than the *****-blaster priests.
Secondly, there were two pedophiles - no more, and two out of 5,000 bishops
have been accused, not convicted, not by society in general, but by the anti
catholics who feverishly look for ways to amplify the slightest perceived
infraction on the part of anyone in the Catholic hierarchy.
You're off by a few thousand:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Catholic_sex_abuse_cases
You have no church so there's no one to accuse. It's an easy go for you (at
least for now).
We aren't the ones eating the body of christ and fucking little boys
up the ***** - that is exclusive to Catholic priests.
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| User: "Paul Duca" |
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22 Mar 2007 07:46:53 PM |
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in article Z6vMh.25507$68.19385@bignews8.bellsouth.net, BAM at
mcca5761@blahblahbellsouth.net wrote on 3/22/07 9:00 AM:
"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAIL_2@FAM.NET> wrote in message
news:VatMh.15183$tD2.8746@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
In News 1174538192_2301@sp6iad.superfeed.net,, J Young at
youngopinions@aol.com, typed this:
The Catholic Church's harshest critics will be predictably silent
about this article.
Are you saying that because they do some good in the world that the fact
that they protected pedophiles in their priesthood shoudl be overlooked?
Hypocrite! You care nothing for children and have no sexual limitations.
Being rebuffed by every woman you proposition is not the same as
saying you have sexual limitations, Bam.
Paul
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| User: "Jaime G" |
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22 Mar 2007 11:46:01 AM |
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In article <1174538192_2301@sp6iad.superfeed.net>,
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
The Catholic Church's harshest critics will be predictably silent about this
article.
http://www.priestsofdarkness.com/aids.html
They should have used condoms in seminary.... Altarboy, anyone?
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"Tantum religio potuit suadere malorum." - Lucretius
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| User: "Dionisio" |
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22 Mar 2007 08:01:02 PM |
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J Young wrote:
VATICAN CITY (Catholic Online) - Catholic and other faith-based
organizations have always been at the forefront of effort to fight HIV-AIDS,
according to a priest-expert on the issue.
Oh, they've been at the forefront all right. The forefront of ignorance and callousness,
obfuscation and petulance, and the direct and deliberate suppression and silencing of
those providing REAL information and assistance.
--
And the Thought of the Moment (TM) is:
"Let's agree with the opponents today, just for the moment, and say that homosexuality is
a choice. Well, one may also consider religion a choice. In the last millennium, Jews
were told, 'Being Jewish is a choice. Become a Christian and we won't kill you. Go kneel
-- Go kiss the cross,' but they would not. Why? Because the way we choose to love the
divine is part of our very essence, part of who we are. Just as who we choose to love is
part of our very essence, our humanness."
-- Sheila Kuehl, January 10, 1996
(Brought to you by SigChanger. http://www.phranc.nl)
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| User: "Parsifal" |
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22 Mar 2007 01:39:07 AM |
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On 22 mar, 05:34, "J Young" <youngopini...@aol.com> wrote:
The Catholic Church's harshest critics will be predictably silent about this
article.
http://www.catholic.org/international/international_story.php?id=23473
Catholic, faith-based HIV-AIDS efforts in forefront of treatment,
undervalued, priest-expert says at Vatican
Tell us something, J Young.
Why exactly do you post that?
You have zero credibility (I wouldn't consider Wentzky's support as
really relevant), this website has zero credibility.
We -you included- all know that the catholic church has been
remarkably incompetent at best when dealing with AIDS. One could even
say that the previous pope was criminally blind in front this tragedy.
So now that the catholic church does a little something, one could say
too little too late. you're triomphant?
Are you that naive or are you just cynical?
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| User: "Olrik" |
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22 Mar 2007 11:31:14 PM |
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On Mar 21, 11:34 pm, "J Young" <youngopini...@aol.com> wrote:
The Catholic Church's harshest critics will be predictably silent about this
article.
http://www.catholic.org/international/international_story.php?id=23473
Catholic, faith-based HIV-AIDS efforts in forefront of treatment,
undervalued, priest-expert says at Vatican
So your religion has policies that encourage the spread of mortal
diseases, and then wants to be recognized when it pays lip-service to
their treatments?
That's not even hypocrisy, that's a crime against humanity.
Olrik
P.S. : I know that JY is a troll, but I had to respond.
O.
<snip odious crap>
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| User: "MarkA" |
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22 Mar 2007 07:53:21 AM |
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On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 00:34:24 -0400, J Young wrote:
The Catholic Church's harshest critics will be predictably silent about
this article.
http://www.catholic.org/international/international_story.php?id=23473
Catholic, faith-based HIV-AIDS efforts in forefront of treatment,
undervalued, priest-expert says at Vatican
Is this the same Catholic church who tells Africans that using a condom is
a sin? To say they are doing anything other than promoting the spread of
AIDS is a bald-faced lie.
--
MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
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