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"J Young" |
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16 Nov 2005 11:51:50 PM |
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Catholic League calls off boycott after Wal-Mart apology |
Amazing how Wal-Mart saw the light when their dollars were being threatened.
Catholics should start using their economic clout.
http://www.lasalute.net/article-print-52951.html
A Roman Catholic civil rights group called off a boycott of Wal-Mart on
Friday after the world's largest retailer apologized for an employee's
e-mail that called Christmas a mix of world religions...
A Roman Catholic civil rights group called off a boycott of Wal-Mart on
Friday after the world's largest retailer apologized for an employee's
e-mail that called Christmas a mix of world religions. "This is a sweet
victory for the Catholic League, Christians in general, and people of all
faiths," said Bill Donohue, president of the Catholic League for Religious
and Civil Rights, said in a statement on the group's Web site. Wal-Mart
Stores Inc. said Thursday that a customer-service employee named Kirby had
written an inappropriate e-mail to a woman who complained that the retailer
had replaced a "Merry Christmas" greeting with "Happy Holidays...
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| User: "Mimi Cohen" |
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| Title: Re: Catholic League calls off boycott after Wal-Mart apology |
18 Nov 2005 03:58:31 PM |
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Robibnikoff wrote:
<omarenoryt@aol.com> wrote in message
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Robibnikoff wrote:
"Hugh Betcha" <gemond@canada.com> wrote in message
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No, He wasn't born on Dec. 25th. Nobody sure of the EXACT date, but in
the ancient times the winter solstice was already a big deal with the
Pagans; and it seemed a good a time as any to commemerate His birth.
Yes, goodness knows it was much easier, and less work, to hijack an
establish holiday than to murder those who celebrated it in its original
form.
All religions, cultures etc have a midwinter festival. Christianity
merely appropriated the Roman Saturnalia and pretended that was when
Jesus was born.
Muslims don't. Neither do Buddhists. Hindus aren't in a big hoopla
either. Jews do, but it has nothing to do with the solstice. That
leaves uh... Pagans? Is Wal-Mart pandering to Pagans? Oh my goodness!
What if they were? Why would that be a problem?
It wouldn't be for you. The only thing you'd like more would be for
them to pander to Muslims.
Yeah, right liar. Don't speak for me, thanks.
In other words EVERYBODY has a winter solstice celebration, not just
Christians.
EVERYBODY being who?
Every other religion.
Just because you're angry over being wrong doesn't mean you need to
lie. The fraction of a percent of the population that don't celebrate
Christmas as a religious or secular holiday will have to deal with the
horrors of hearing "Merry Christmas" everywhere they go.
Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't realize you were another garden-variety lying
*****. My bad for replying to your *****. B'bye.
Yes, we leave the lying to so called "christians" they do it so well and
so often.
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| User: "Cmdr Buzz Corey" |
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18 Nov 2005 05:35:31 PM |
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Mimi Cohen wrote:
Yes, we leave the lying to so called "christians" they do it so well and
so often.
Kinda like the Jews.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Catholic League calls off boycott after Wal-Mart apology |
18 Nov 2005 11:57:48 AM |
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Merry Spankmas, Stain de STD aka omareno el moron:
Chapter XV The Last Trimester of Uncle Fester
In all Jafo's years of congressional commerce with males at more or
less peak pubertal nubility, Stain was not only Jafo's third or fourth
eldest conquest. Long-since mummified DCI being by far the most
ancient and unspeakably evil of the bunch.
Stain de STD took the biscuit marking the most pliable, rubbery and
brainlessly uninhibited steady consort Jafo had, one of very few
allowing him lip contact, the only one Jafo never had to pay to enter,
since he was *this* tall, rather than any refinement in terms of age,
to ride.
Stain harbored the same hatred of all things Moslem as Jafo. He had
been even more outspokenly racist, albeit only under some of his more
clownish online alleged personalities. Then it was almost as if he
mellowed out, as impending motherhood settled Stain's bacon and
somewhat decelerated his decline into the ways of evil.
In the end, however, Jafo is uninterested in anything less than the
full headlong rush into Evil Itself. To do any less, in his eyes,
would be rapturous coitus interruptus.
Dirty Uncle Jafo still held certain things against Stain. As it
were. Often. Not least, the fact that Stain was the first
bottom-feeder Jafo ever knew to get his ***** pregnant...
That having been said, as Butt One among the several potential sires of
this particular foetus rapidly incubating in Stain's abdomen, Dirty
Uncle Jafo was to be found harboring a more subtle mixture of emotions,
albeit extreme ones.
Such pride of fatherhood as Jafo might scrape together from the barren
emotional scrublands of his heart was diluted in much the same way as,
before hitting the streets and the brains of its consumers, Ted's
Spankodin was cut with impurities such as: baby laxative, saccharine,
talcum powder, goat laxative, cockroach tusks, anthrax dust, pus,
Viagra, Ben-Gay, ground Ben Holstrom rice flour, fabric softener, stool
softener, milk powder, PCP, earwax, sex wax, Ex-Lax, beeswax, LAX,
Aspirin, Ritalin, vitamin B, string cheese, chick-a peas, cement, dried
excrement, underarm deodorant, chili paste, nuclear waste, elephant
laxative, Clorox, Maalox, buttocks. smallpox, Xerox, pop rocks,
ginseng, nutmeg, alligator laxative, tiger balm, napalm, internet scam,
depleted uranium, snail cranium, ***** Chenium, asbestos, Mentos, adios
amigos, Oreos, huevos rancheros, MS-DOS, tacos, Jafos, sucrose,
dingoes, Doritos, pantyhose . . . things like those.
There was a lot of stuff going up Stain's nose, by no means all of it
pure unadulterated Spankodin, with intermittent breaths of relatively
fresh air. Just the smell of Jafo in heat alone was giving Stain the
Willy Pete.
Other things that cast a cloud over Jafo's paternal pride include:
a) uncertainty as to whether he, Jafo, as opposed to say, The Pervert,
H Reader or DCI or Jim Alder or Ian McKinney or even Pokie was indeed
the biological father of Stain's love-child
b) Stain neither knowing nor seemingly caring who the actual father
was, as long as he had a husband to go with the black and white
minstrel flow
and
c) worries about the future - could he and bankrupt Stain afford to
house, clothe and feed another mouth or - given Jafo and Stain's
advancing ages - a plurality of mouths, should this child be born with
several of them, redundant social security orifices, like their
crustacean mutant house pet DCI ?
Jafo was fairly sure of one thing: he was never cut out to be a
father, scoutmaster, spiritual advisor, teacher or legal custodian of
any kind to any human life-form, including his own. So the thought of
himself as a stay at home dad, trying to keep body and soul together in
the dwindling resource market of hair dryer maintenance and
repair.........
He torched and took another massive hit off of the Spank pipe,
marveling at the coincidence of its name and that of other things he
liked to su-- [censored]
How would things work out if Jafo wanted to see other guys ? What if
he hated their baby ? Supposing it was "born evil", a thing that Jafo
still believes now, even at his ripe old age of 60 ?
Supposing it looked like Stain - eewwww! - or - No, please, gawd, no...
Jafo himself ?
What if the child were a GIRL ? How could Dirty Uncle Jafo ever come
to terms with life in the aftermath of such a catastrophe ?
Of all the terror in the world, to be the progenitor even in name only
of a member of the opposite sex - that would be not only unusual, but
for Jafo, the cruelest of punishment, ever.
Stain and Jafo together could smirk over the dead in asbestos rubble
piles wanked over by President "Jesus" W Bush. Stain aka omareno could
celebrate Rachel Corrie's death-i-versary one-on-one with the best of
them along with what he and Jafo together hoped might become daily
lynching of Moslems on breakfast TV.
But having a girl around Casa Death, his ancestral home ? Ridiculous.
That's where Stain and Jafo were liable to part ways.
Well, not to curtail Jafo's freedom to reflect on these things in any
way... but those are the main ones as far as the as-yet unborn infant
is concerned. However, what of his lover, Auntie Stain himself ? How
say ye to that, Jafo ?
"I say, Stain, has pregnancy affected your ability to indulge in wanton
Middlesex?" enquired Jafo.
"Why no, not at all, Fist-Lord Jafo," beamed Stain, "In fact, my
hormones find it rather agreeable and the extra turbulence actually
prepares the birth passages to secrete the fruit of out loins, little
baby Jafo to be, to be, oh bring back my--"
Overall, he was definitely unenthusiastic about the whole thing, to the
point of distaste and perhaps even emotional discomfort. In
neo-contrast to Stain, who by the minute was overtly blossoming into
maternal rapture, Jafo had grown, if anything, even more sexlessly
insipid and wraith-like than usual - toward Stain, at least.
Jafo most deftly evaded philosophical considerations such as whether he
was capable of loving Stain and if so, whether he and Stain could
become more than just fellow Falangist propaganda jeer squad members.
Who would get first dibs on the Windows XP Homo Edition keyboard Jafo
already reluctantly timeshared with sick animal DCI ? It was already a
daily struggle just to see who'd get to drive the family ancestral
shopping cart.
They'd be like so many more oafs and fishes under one roof. Perish the
thought, indeed, shuddered Jafo, his hips wiggling the same way they do
when he posts "evasion noted", only in a minor key.
The touchy subject of who wears the pants, if they get married. How to
keep secret their love-child's fatal and even in Republican circles,
rather unusual genetic heritage, conceived as it had been between two
males, neither of whom openly admit their nameless preferences in the
love department. Tough one to swallow, as shallow Stain said when he
first -- [censored]
Meantime:
Stain's pregnancy had been progressing at a prodigious pace in direct
proportion to the massive intake of Spankodin which Stain and the
others have been sustaining.
His due date was liable to come faster than UPS Ground, in days rather
than months.
Even without having consulted any actual gynaecological or obstetric
professionals, there could be no mistake: by the strain and weight gain
on Stain, the main mama man plainly had an insanely big one to explain.
Any looky-loo could tell, Stain had one in the oven, ready to pop in
days, maybe hours, from the present narrative moment.
Though some people might consider the act by which it was conceived an
abomination, as it indeed was, that's still no reason to come down hard
on the baby, should it ever come to term. Neither is it sufficient
reason to oversimplify the abortion issue, which some might argue would
be the kinder gentler alternative to Stain carrying this improbable
pregnancy to term.
<to be crucified>
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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| Title: Re: Catholic League calls off boycott after Wal-Mart apology |
18 Nov 2005 11:35:17 AM |
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On 18 Nov 2005 09:32:56 -0800, wrote:
Robibnikoff wrote:
"Hugh Betcha" <gemond@canada.com> wrote in message
news:1132285297.251414.199030@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
snip
No, He wasn't born on Dec. 25th. Nobody sure of the EXACT date, but in
the ancient times the winter solstice was already a big deal with the
Pagans; and it seemed a good a time as any to commemerate His birth.
Yes, goodness knows it was much easier, and less work, to hijack an
establish holiday than to murder those who celebrated it in its original
form.
All religions, cultures etc have a midwinter festival. Christianity
merely appropriated the Roman Saturnalia and pretended that was when
Jesus was born.
Muslims don't. Neither do Buddhists. Hindus aren't in a big hoopla
either. Jews do, but it has nothing to do with the solstice. That
leaves uh... Pagans? Is Wal-Mart pandering to Pagans? Oh my goodness!
What if they were? Why would that be a problem?
It wouldn't be for you. The only thing you'd like more would be for
them to pander to Muslims.
In other words EVERYBODY has a winter solstice celebration, not just
Christians.
EVERYBODY being who?
Every other religion.
Just because you're angry over being wrong doesn't mean you need to
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lie. The fraction of a percent of the population that don't celebrate
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Christmas as a religious or secular holiday will have to deal with the
horrors of hearing "Merry Christmas" everywhere they go.
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At least 4 lies in that sentence. You must be a Christian.
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| User: "Paul Duca" |
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19 Nov 2005 01:07:19 AM |
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in article 1132335176.597108.218690@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com,
at wrote on 11/18/05 12:32 PM:
Robibnikoff wrote:
"Hugh Betcha" <gemond@canada.com> wrote in message
news:1132285297.251414.199030@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
snip
No, He wasn't born on Dec. 25th. Nobody sure of the EXACT date, but in
the ancient times the winter solstice was already a big deal with the
Pagans; and it seemed a good a time as any to commemerate His birth.
Yes, goodness knows it was much easier, and less work, to hijack an
establish holiday than to murder those who celebrated it in its original
form.
All religions, cultures etc have a midwinter festival. Christianity
merely appropriated the Roman Saturnalia and pretended that was when
Jesus was born.
Muslims don't. Neither do Buddhists. Hindus aren't in a big hoopla
either. Jews do, but it has nothing to do with the solstice. That
leaves uh... Pagans? Is Wal-Mart pandering to Pagans? Oh my goodness!
What if they were? Why would that be a problem?
It wouldn't be for you. The only thing you'd like more would be for
them to pander to Muslims.
In other words EVERYBODY has a winter solstice celebration, not just
Christians.
EVERYBODY being who?
Every other religion.
Just because you're angry over being wrong doesn't mean you need to
lie. The fraction of a percent of the population that don't celebrate
Christmas as a religious or secular holiday will have to deal with the
horrors of hearing "Merry Christmas" everywhere they go.
No matter how many stupid Christians insist that their pretend friend
is the reason for the season.
It's a stupid, falsehood turned cliche.
No, not a cliche, but an ancient tradition and solemn commemeration for
over a billion people worldwide; worthy of AT LEAST the same respect as
(with all due respect) Kwanzaa and secular/humanists/atheists who
appreciate a day off and the excuse to go to parties.
Yes, the Winter Solstice. My winter holidays never had Jesus involved and
they never will. Deal with it.
Yes, I'm guessing the only religious practice you participate in
involves bowing towards Mecca five times every day.
So, do you set up that Pagan tree? Decorate with the colors green and red?
Spruce up the living room with some holly and ivy? Hang up that Celtic
fertility symbol? (i.e., mistletoe) Cause if you do, you are celebrating
the Solstice - NOT Jesus.
Or the secular holiday that Christmas has become. Try not to cry.
Does it really matter to you, as your Christian God hasn't even
given you enough money to shop at Wal-Mart?
Paul
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| User: "Mimi Cohen" |
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17 Nov 2005 10:45:55 PM |
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Robibnikoff wrote:
"Hugh Betcha" <gemond@canada.com> wrote in message
news:1132285297.251414.199030@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
snip
No, He wasn't born on Dec. 25th. Nobody sure of the EXACT date, but in
the ancient times the winter solstice was already a big deal with the
Pagans; and it seemed a good a time as any to commemerate His birth.
Yes, goodness knows it was much easier, and less work, to hijack an
establish holiday than to murder those who celebrated it in its original
form.
One wonders how many "good xian" Americans know that when the colonists
first came to the British American colonies the celebration of Christ
mas was illegal? (these people don't know ***** about their own history
and yet want to convert everyone they meet)
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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18 Nov 2005 04:12:54 AM |
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"Mimi Cohen" <mimiNOSPAMgal@cox.net> wrote in message
news:30dff.605$Wu.175@fed1read05...
Robibnikoff wrote:
"Hugh Betcha" <gemond@canada.com> wrote in message
news:1132285297.251414.199030@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
snip
No, He wasn't born on Dec. 25th. Nobody sure of the EXACT date, but in
the ancient times the winter solstice was already a big deal with the
Pagans; and it seemed a good a time as any to commemerate His birth.
Yes, goodness knows it was much easier, and less work, to hijack an
establish holiday than to murder those who celebrated it in its original
form.
One wonders how many "good xian" Americans know that when the colonists
first came to the British American colonies the celebration of Christ mas
was illegal? (these people don't know ***** about their own history and yet
want to convert everyone they meet)
Oh, don't you worry. I'm very fond of pointing out these little factoids on
a yearly basis at a friend's Xmas party.
--
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic Sagerquist
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| User: "Mimi Cohen" |
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18 Nov 2005 07:08:21 AM |
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Robibnikoff wrote:
"Mimi Cohen" <mimiNOSPAMgal@cox.net> wrote in message
news:30dff.605$Wu.175@fed1read05...
Robibnikoff wrote:
"Hugh Betcha" <gemond@canada.com> wrote in message
news:1132285297.251414.199030@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
snip
No, He wasn't born on Dec. 25th. Nobody sure of the EXACT date, but in
the ancient times the winter solstice was already a big deal with the
Pagans; and it seemed a good a time as any to commemerate His birth.
Yes, goodness knows it was much easier, and less work, to hijack an
establish holiday than to murder those who celebrated it in its original
form.
One wonders how many "good xian" Americans know that when the colonists
first came to the British American colonies the celebration of Christ mas
was illegal? (these people don't know ***** about their own history and yet
want to convert everyone they meet)
Oh, don't you worry. I'm very fond of pointing out these little factoids on
a yearly basis at a friend's Xmas party.
I figured you being an educated lady already knew that factoid, I put it
out there for the morons :)
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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18 Nov 2005 09:12:23 AM |
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"Mimi Cohen" <mimiNOSPAMgal@cox.net> wrote in message
news:6nkff.638$Wu.177@fed1read05...
Robibnikoff wrote:
"Mimi Cohen" <mimiNOSPAMgal@cox.net> wrote in message
news:30dff.605$Wu.175@fed1read05...
Robibnikoff wrote:
"Hugh Betcha" <gemond@canada.com> wrote in message
news:1132285297.251414.199030@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
snip
No, He wasn't born on Dec. 25th. Nobody sure of the EXACT date, but in
the ancient times the winter solstice was already a big deal with the
Pagans; and it seemed a good a time as any to commemerate His birth.
Yes, goodness knows it was much easier, and less work, to hijack an
establish holiday than to murder those who celebrated it in its original
form.
One wonders how many "good xian" Americans know that when the colonists
first came to the British American colonies the celebration of Christ mas
was illegal? (these people don't know ***** about their own history and
yet want to convert everyone they meet)
Oh, don't you worry. I'm very fond of pointing out these little factoids
on a yearly basis at a friend's Xmas party.
I figured you being an educated lady already knew that factoid, I put it
out there for the morons :)
Bless you! Um, you know what I mean <wink> ;)
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
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| User: "Mimi Cohen" |
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18 Nov 2005 09:30:23 AM |
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Robibnikoff wrote:
"Mimi Cohen" <mimiNOSPAMgal@cox.net> wrote in message
news:6nkff.638$Wu.177@fed1read05...
Robibnikoff wrote:
"Mimi Cohen" <mimiNOSPAMgal@cox.net> wrote in message
news:30dff.605$Wu.175@fed1read05...
Robibnikoff wrote:
"Hugh Betcha" <gemond@canada.com> wrote in message
news:1132285297.251414.199030@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
snip
No, He wasn't born on Dec. 25th. Nobody sure of the EXACT date, but in
the ancient times the winter solstice was already a big deal with the
Pagans; and it seemed a good a time as any to commemerate His birth.
Yes, goodness knows it was much easier, and less work, to hijack an
establish holiday than to murder those who celebrated it in its original
form.
One wonders how many "good xian" Americans know that when the colonists
first came to the British American colonies the celebration of Christ mas
was illegal? (these people don't know ***** about their own history and
yet want to convert everyone they meet)
Oh, don't you worry. I'm very fond of pointing out these little factoids
on a yearly basis at a friend's Xmas party.
I figured you being an educated lady already knew that factoid, I put it
out there for the morons :)
Bless you! Um, you know what I mean <wink> ;)
:)
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| User: "" |
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18 Nov 2005 11:33:47 AM |
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Could you fellate each other on your own time please? TIA
Mimi Cohen wrote:
Robibnikoff wrote:
"Mimi Cohen" <mimiNOSPAMgal@cox.net> wrote in message
news:6nkff.638$Wu.177@fed1read05...
Robibnikoff wrote:
"Mimi Cohen" <mimiNOSPAMgal@cox.net> wrote in message
news:30dff.605$Wu.175@fed1read05...
Robibnikoff wrote:
"Hugh Betcha" <gemond@canada.com> wrote in message
news:1132285297.251414.199030@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
snip
No, He wasn't born on Dec. 25th. Nobody sure of the EXACT date, but in
the ancient times the winter solstice was already a big deal with the
Pagans; and it seemed a good a time as any to commemerate His birth.
Yes, goodness knows it was much easier, and less work, to hijack an
establish holiday than to murder those who celebrated it in its original
form.
One wonders how many "good xian" Americans know that when the colonists
first came to the British American colonies the celebration of Christ mas
was illegal? (these people don't know ***** about their own history and
yet want to convert everyone they meet)
Oh, don't you worry. I'm very fond of pointing out these little factoids
on a yearly basis at a friend's Xmas party.
I figured you being an educated lady already knew that factoid, I put it
out there for the morons :)
Bless you! Um, you know what I mean <wink> ;)
:)
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| User: "Mimi Cohen" |
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| Title: Re: Catholic League calls off boycott after Wal-Mart apology |
17 Nov 2005 10:42:33 PM |
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Hugh Betcha wrote:
Point is, 'Christmas' was subtly removed and replaced with 'holiday',
while 'Kwanzaa' and 'Hanukka' remained. Why? Well, look at it this way:
Kwanzaa is an American invention dating from the late 1960's and with
all due respect, Hanukka is not the 'reason for the season' Christmas
is an almost 2000 year old traditional celebration of the birth of
Jesus, and is celebrated under that name by almost 85% of Americans.
So, for Wal-Mart to remove it, must be either bigotry or political
correctness gone stupid. Catholics have a right to express what they
don't like, and we don't have to shop at Wal-Mart if they don't like
us, either. So there. Nyah.
*****. If he existed at all he wasn't born then - think shepherds
watching flocks, newborn lambs etc.
No, He wasn't born on Dec. 25th. Nobody sure of the EXACT date, but in
the ancient times the winter solstice was already a big deal with the
Pagans; and it seemed a good a time as any to commemerate His birth.
He wasn't born anywhere near the Winter Solstice and anyone who's ever
been near a ranch knows that lambs are born in spring, pretty stupid of
xians to roll over for Constantine to arbitrarily choose a pagan holiday.
All religions, cultures etc have a midwinter festival. Christianity
merely appropriated the Roman Saturnalia and pretended that was when
Jesus was born.
Muslims don't.
Your ignorance of what a big deal Ramadan is to Muslims is noted.
No matter how many stupid Christians insist that their pretend friend
is the reason for the season.
Funny how they have to put up billboards and other forms of
advertisement to remind these good and observant xians what the "reason
for the season" is. You'll never find advertisements to remind Jews of
Pesach or Muslims of Ramadan. Last year the little bill boards on the
fronts of the neighboring churches all had reminders up on them. So sad
that xians apparently can't remember a "holiday" that falls on the same
date every year.
It's a stupid, falsehood turned cliche.
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| User: "" |
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18 Nov 2005 11:17:33 AM |
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Mimi Cohen wrote:
Hugh Betcha wrote:
Point is, 'Christmas' was subtly removed and replaced with 'holiday',
while 'Kwanzaa' and 'Hanukka' remained. Why? Well, look at it this way:
Kwanzaa is an American invention dating from the late 1960's and with
all due respect, Hanukka is not the 'reason for the season' Christmas
is an almost 2000 year old traditional celebration of the birth of
Jesus, and is celebrated under that name by almost 85% of Americans.
So, for Wal-Mart to remove it, must be either bigotry or political
correctness gone stupid. Catholics have a right to express what they
don't like, and we don't have to shop at Wal-Mart if they don't like
us, either. So there. Nyah.
*****. If he existed at all he wasn't born then - think shepherds
watching flocks, newborn lambs etc.
No, He wasn't born on Dec. 25th. Nobody sure of the EXACT date, but in
the ancient times the winter solstice was already a big deal with the
Pagans; and it seemed a good a time as any to commemerate His birth.
He wasn't born anywhere near the Winter Solstice and anyone who's ever
been near a ranch knows that lambs are born in spring, pretty stupid of
xians to roll over for Constantine to arbitrarily choose a pagan holiday.
All religions, cultures etc have a midwinter festival. Christianity
merely appropriated the Roman Saturnalia and pretended that was when
Jesus was born.
Muslims don't.
Your ignorance of what a big deal Ramadan is to Muslims is noted.
They don't take time off to blow up innocent civilians during Ramadan
so it's hardly anything to them. Try not to cry, liar.
No matter how many stupid Christians insist that their pretend friend
is the reason for the season.
Funny how they have to put up billboards and other forms of
advertisement to remind these good and observant xians what the "reason
for the season" is. You'll never find advertisements to remind Jews of
Pesach or Muslims of Ramadan. Last year the little bill boards on the
fronts of the neighboring churches all had reminders up on them. So sad
that xians apparently can't remember a "holiday" that falls on the same
date every year.
It's a stupid, falsehood turned cliche.
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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18 Nov 2005 12:40:55 AM |
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On 17 Nov 2005 19:41:37 -0800, "Hugh Betcha" <gemond@canada.com>
wrote:
No matter how many stupid Christians insist that their pretend friend
is the reason for the season.
It's a stupid, falsehood turned cliche.
No, not a cliche, but an ancient tradition and solemn commemeration for
over a billion people worldwide; worthy of AT LEAST the same respect as
(with all due respect) Kwanzaa and secular/humanists/atheists who
appreciate a day off and the excuse to go to parties.
Except that Christianity appropriated an existing midwinter festival.
It is older than Christianity. The cliche you morons rub in our face
is a lie.
Respect is a two way thing. You lost it long ago.
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| User: "€€R.L.Measures" |
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18 Nov 2005 07:00:27 AM |
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In article <no6qn15ger1jur9sf7mm7tb2vl72lo9g4b@4ax.com>, Christopher A.
Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote:
On 17 Nov 2005 14:53:42 -0800, "Hugh Betcha" <gemond@canada.com>
wrote:
So, basically they are ***** that you don't get directed to a page
labeled "Christmas" when you search on "Christmas." Doesn't seem like a
big deal to me, but that's just me. I'm glad that Walmart will continue
to encourage it's employees to say "Happy Holidays", which is clearly more
inclusive than "Merry Christmas."
--
MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
Point is, 'Christmas' was subtly removed and replaced with 'holiday',
while 'Kwanzaa' and 'Hanukka' remained. Why? Well, look at it this way:
Kwanzaa is an American invention dating from the late 1960's and with
all due respect, Hanukka is not the 'reason for the season' Christmas
is an almost 2000 year old traditional celebration of the birth of
Jesus, and is celebrated under that name by almost 85% of Americans.
So, for Wal-Mart to remove it, must be either bigotry or political
correctness gone stupid. Catholics have a right to express what they
don't like, and we don't have to shop at Wal-Mart if they don't like
us, either. So there. Nyah.
*****. If he existed at all he wasn't born then - think shepherds
watching flocks, newborn lambs etc.
All religions, cultures etc have a midwinter festival. Christianity
merely appropriated the Roman Saturnalia and pretended that was when
Jesus was born.
• Indeed. Before Jesus' birth, 25-Dec. was Mithra's birthday
celebration. If the NT is correct in that Jesus was 33 and one half when
he got nailed, he was assuredly not born on 25 Dec.
The biggest joke about Catholicism is their tired old claim that paganism
is bad.
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€ R.L.Measures, 805-386-3734, www.somis.org
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| User: "" |
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18 Nov 2005 04:01:41 PM |
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=80=80R.L.Measures wrote:
=B7 Indeed. Before Jesus' birth, 25-Dec. was Mithra's birthday
celebration.
There is no evidence for this; it's a fairytale circulated as a piece
of anti-Christian malice.
The biggest joke about Catholicism is their tired old claim that paganism
is bad.
The biggest joke about secularism is their enthusiasm for islam.
All the best,
Roger Pearse
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| User: "€€R.L.Measures" |
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18 Nov 2005 07:12:47 PM |
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In article <1132351301.868207.206860@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
roger_pearse@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
=80=80R.L.Measures wrote:
=B7 Indeed. Before Jesus' birth, 25-Dec. was Mithra's birthday
celebration.
There is no evidence for this; it's a fairytale circulated as a piece
of anti-Christian malice.
The biggest joke about Catholicism is their tired old claim that paganism
is bad.
The biggest joke about secularism is their enthusiasm for islam.
• not the ones I know.
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| User: "Emma Pease" |
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18 Nov 2005 07:07:09 PM |
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In article <1132351301.868207.206860@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, wrote:
€€R.L.Measures wrote:
· Indeed. Before Jesus' birth, 25-Dec. was Mithra's birthday
celebration.
There is no evidence for this; it's a fairytale circulated as a piece
of anti-Christian malice.
But there is evidence it was a festival of Sol Invictus and Mithra
seems to have been closely associated with Sol Invictus. Right
idea, wrong entity.
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|_\/ Die Luft der Freiheit weht
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| User: "" |
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19 Nov 2005 03:03:39 AM |
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Emma Pease wrote:
In article <1132351301.868207.206860@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, roger=
_pearse@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
=80=80R.L.Measures wrote:
=B7 Indeed. Before Jesus' birth, 25-Dec. was Mithra's birthday
celebration.
There is no evidence for this; it's a fairytale circulated as a piece
of anti-Christian malice.
But there is evidence it was a festival of Sol Invictus ...
Actually there isn't! (There are so many stories doing the rounds
online). This is a confusion caused because the 25th was called 'died
natalis solis invictis' (the day of the unconquered sun). But this is
not a reference to the 3rd century deity, Sol Invictus (the unconquered
sun), since this day was so named long before, or so I am told. A lot
of people can't distinguish between two different things if they have
the same name, and that is the problem.
As for feasts of Sol Invictus, we have a Roman calendar, and these are
listed in the Autumn, not in December.
and Mithra seems to have been closely associated with Sol Invictus.
Unfortunately there is no evidence of this either in the historical
record, except insofar as both talked about the sun. But Helios was an
associate of Mithras (the spelling is important).
All the best,
Roger Pearse
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| User: "" |
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17 Nov 2005 07:32:17 PM |
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On 17-Nov-2005, "Hugh Betcha" <gemond@canada.com> wrote:
with
all due respect, Hanukka is not the 'reason for the season'
With all due respect, it is, & Jesus isn't.
See? I can be dictatorial, too!
Susan
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| User: "NefeshBarYochai" |
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17 Nov 2005 07:33:45 PM |
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Jesus and I went to different schools together.
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| User: "Paul Duca" |
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18 Nov 2005 02:03:11 AM |
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in article 1132268022.787466.55190@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com, Hugh Betcha
at wrote on 11/17/05 5:53 PM:
So, basically they are ***** that you don't get directed to a page
labeled "Christmas" when you search on "Christmas." Doesn't seem like a
big deal to me, but that's just me. I'm glad that Walmart will continue
to encourage it's employees to say "Happy Holidays", which is clearly more
inclusive than "Merry Christmas."
--
MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
Point is, 'Christmas' was subtly removed and replaced with 'holiday',
while 'Kwanzaa' and 'Hanukka' remained. Why? Well, look at it this way:
Kwanzaa is an American invention dating from the late 1960's and with
all due respect, Hanukka is not the 'reason for the season' Christmas
is an almost 2000 year old traditional celebration of the birth of
Jesus, and is celebrated under that name by almost 85% of Americans.
84.9999 percent of whom will not get a decent reward by the
celebrant...
Paul
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Catholic League calls off boycott after Wal-Mart apology |
17 Nov 2005 02:28:50 PM |
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On 17-Nov-2005, MarkA <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote:
From the Catholic League web site:
"Searches for Hanukkah and Kwanzaa direct customers to the Jewish and
African-American holiday sections, but searches for Christmas are directed
to the 'Holiday' section. Ergo, Wal-Mart discriminates in its
treatment of Christmas."
Funny, I would havwe to say that it's more like Wal Mart is trying to
missionize on behalf of Xians, that *their* holiday is for EVERYONE -
when it most certainly is not!
So, basically they are ***** that you don't get directed to a page
labeled "Christmas" when you search on "Christmas." Doesn't seem like a
big deal to me, but that's just me. I'm glad that Walmart will continue
to encourage it's employees to say "Happy Holidays", which is clearly more
inclusive than "Merry Christmas."
Yes, I agree with that - Xmas isn't the only one out there.
Susan
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| User: "The Pervert" |
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| Title: Re: Catholic League calls off boycott after Wal-Mart apology |
18 Nov 2005 04:56:20 AM |
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<flaviaR@verizon.net> wrote in message news:6K5ff.22555$Mr4.3537@trnddc08...
On 17-Nov-2005, MarkA <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote:
From the Catholic League web site:
"Searches for Hanukkah and Kwanzaa direct customers to the Jewish and
African-American holiday sections, but searches for Christmas are
directed
to the 'Holiday' section. Ergo, Wal-Mart discriminates in its
treatment of Christmas."
Funny, I would havwe to say that it's more like Wal Mart is trying to
missionize on behalf of Xians, that *their* holiday is for EVERYONE -
when it most certainly is not!
I'm certainly not a Christian and I celebrate Christmas as a social holiday.
Sure, it's origins are religious, but being a devout heathen, such trappings
don't apply for me. Yet is still my most important holiday of the year.
And Santa Claus is a close, personal friend.
Halloween's origins are also religious, but how many people now observe it
as a religious holiday?
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| User: "" |
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18 Nov 2005 08:21:45 AM |
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On 18-Nov-2005, "The Pervert" <pervert12@spambad.yahoo.com> wrote:
<flaviaR@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:6K5ff.22555$Mr4.3537@trnddc08...
On 17-Nov-2005, MarkA <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote:
From the Catholic League web site:
"Searches for Hanukkah and Kwanzaa direct customers to the Jewish and
African-American holiday sections, but searches for Christmas are
directed
to the 'Holiday' section. Ergo, Wal-Mart discriminates in its
treatment of Christmas."
Funny, I would havwe to say that it's more like Wal Mart is trying to
missionize on behalf of Xians, that *their* holiday is for EVERYONE -
when it most certainly is not!
I'm certainly not a Christian and I celebrate Christmas as a social
holiday.
Oh, I'll go to Xmas parties - I have Xian relatives - & pagan friends -
after all.
But it's not my holiday - that's the only poiint I was making.
Sure, it's origins are religious, but being a devout heathen, such
trappings
don't apply for me. Yet is still my most important holiday of the year.
And Santa Claus is a close, personal friend.
Halloween's origins are also religious, but how many people now observe it
as a religious holiday?
I have asked my pagan friends if it's offensive to them if my kids trick or
treat & they say that the holiday now has no resemblence to anything
they do so, go ahead! My husband was astonished that I brushed off
the talk our rabbi gave about "not letting the kids go trick or treating"
until I explained why.
Susan
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| User: "Paul Duca" |
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17 Nov 2005 03:26:54 AM |
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in article H72dneWDL9ZAh-HeRVn-qg@giganews.com, J Young at
youngopinions@aol.com wrote on 11/17/05 12:51 AM:
Amazing how Wal-Mart saw the light when their dollars were being threatened.
Catholics should start using their economic clout.
Then they get to Heaven and find they have none...
Paul
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