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"Budikka666" |
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03 Nov 2005 06:48:30 PM |
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Catholic Weekly Exploits Naked Women |
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/11/03/italy.nude.reut/index.html
"Leading Catholic publication Famiglia Cristiana has stirred up a media
storm in Italy with its first ever photograph of a naked woman, part of
an advertisement for a bathroom ventilation system. The photograph --
chaste by the standards of Italy's bawdy television shows and risque
news magazines covers -- shows only a female bottom shot through a
misty shower door."
But when you follow a religion which is renowned for exploiting,
abusing, and degrading women, why would yet another episode of same
cause a scandal?
Budikka
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| User: "Enkidu the Atheist" |
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| Title: Re: Catholic Weekly Exploits Naked Women |
06 Nov 2005 01:35:43 PM |
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"shadow" <shadow@sun.org> wrote in news:436e5589_3@x-privat.org:
"Enkidu the Atheist" <enkidu@leaddogs.org> wrote in message
news:Xns97064E89FF1B5255229@130.133.1.4...
"shadow" <shadow@sun.org> wrote in news:436e1fea$2_3@x-privat.org:
"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
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shadow wrote:
so, how come? why are you, as an atheist, so interrested in
bible? god? jesus? religion? faith? tell me more...
Isn't it curious that when he asks this question and you respond,
he runs away?
who, vic? had too many drinks last night, budikka?
anyway... vic did not answer my question. not by a
long shot.
If the Muslims were pushing the Koran into public school classrooms,
court rooms, courthouses, and legislation, we would be concerned with
the Koran. But it isn't. It's the fundamentalist Christians pushing
the Bible.
but hey, in america its christianity the one that is dominant, so?
Simple.
yeah, simple.
Now, are you smart enough to understand the answer?
yeah. if you have a kid, send it to schools where there arent any
bibles or priests. and you can shut the hell up. so... ? dont rant
about church pushing The Holy Book (and all that goes with it)
into public school classrooms. you worry about your own kid.
send him to a different school. raise him the way you want him
to be raised. or the way he/she wants it. bibles and priests in
OTHER schools aint none of your ***** problem. nor mine.
can you understand that?
That's exactly what I do. I send my kids to a tax supported public
school. You keep your fucking bronze age superstition out of my kids'
public school.
but i bet youd be more than happy if you and your atheist friends
were pushing atheism in public schools. there wouldnt be anything
wrong with that, huh enkidu?
Actually, I *am* a teacher in a public school. I've hosted a Bible study
group in my public school classroom. But not on school time where
attendance is compulsory, and not on the public dime where taxpayers
would be compelled to support any religion.
tell me enkidu... im waiting for your reply.
And it's clear that you aren't smart enough to understand my answer,
because you aren't smart enough to understand that your religion is utter
crap to people not of your religion, no more true than Islam or Hinduism
is to you.
Oh, yeah, if you wish your screed to be taken seriously, at least *try*
to make it look like you put some thought into it. We all forgive the
rare error, but use upper case to start a sentence, use proper
punctuation, etc. If you don't care enough to write in standard English,
I don't care enough to read it.
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Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
PGP ID: 0xC4CE8CF0
"Religion is excellent stuff for keeping common people quiet."
--Napoleon Bonaparte, French emperor (1769-1821).
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| User: "shadow" |
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| Title: Re: Catholic Weekly Exploits Naked Women |
06 Nov 2005 04:30:14 PM |
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"Enkidu the Atheist" <enkidu@leaddogs.org> wrote in message
news:Xns970675F937B9A255229@130.133.1.4...
"shadow" <shadow@sun.org> wrote in news:436e5589_3@x-privat.org:
"Enkidu the Atheist" <enkidu@leaddogs.org> wrote in message
news:Xns97064E89FF1B5255229@130.133.1.4...
"shadow" <shadow@sun.org> wrote in news:436e1fea$2_3@x-privat.org:
"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:1131279052.477492.124770@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
shadow wrote:
so, how come? why are you, as an atheist, so interrested in
bible? god? jesus? religion? faith? tell me more...
Isn't it curious that when he asks this question and you respond,
he runs away?
who, vic? had too many drinks last night, budikka?
anyway... vic did not answer my question. not by a
long shot.
If the Muslims were pushing the Koran into public school classrooms,
court rooms, courthouses, and legislation, we would be concerned with
the Koran. But it isn't. It's the fundamentalist Christians pushing
the Bible.
but hey, in america its christianity the one that is dominant, so?
Simple.
yeah, simple.
Now, are you smart enough to understand the answer?
yeah. if you have a kid, send it to schools where there arent any
bibles or priests. and you can shut the hell up. so... ? dont rant
about church pushing The Holy Book (and all that goes with it)
into public school classrooms. you worry about your own kid.
send him to a different school. raise him the way you want him
to be raised. or the way he/she wants it. bibles and priests in
OTHER schools aint none of your ***** problem. nor mine.
can you understand that?
That's exactly what I do. I send my kids to a tax supported public
school. You keep your fucking bronze age superstition out of my kids'
public school.
oh, well then... you know what you have to do. make more money,
and send him to private school. rofl! ok, just kidding.
you say, bronze age? well, 'enkidu', THINGS havent changed that
much since then. ok, maybe you are too dumb to comprehend that
enkidu, but imho... i doubt that.
now, tell me about nowadays and the bronze age. tell me more...
im interrested. you seem to be resonably smart, enkidu.
but i bet youd be more than happy if you and your atheist friends
were pushing atheism in public schools. there wouldnt be anything
wrong with that, huh enkidu?
Actually, I *am* a teacher in a public school. I've hosted a Bible study
group in my public school classroom. But not on school time where
attendance is compulsory, and not on the public dime where taxpayers
would be compelled to support any religion.
ok. an atheist teaching kids about bible? like; fag teacher teaching kids about sex.
something like that, wouldnt you think, enkidu? or like some priest teaching kids
about atheism. same crap... oh my oh my, enkidu.
tell me enkidu... im waiting for your reply.
And it's clear that you aren't smart enough to understand my answer,
because you aren't smart enough to understand that your religion is utter
crap to people not of your religion, no more true than Islam or Hinduism
is to you.
utter crap? oh come on. if you are reffering to religion as 'utter crap', then
you are a moron, and a dumbass! excuse my french.
you were prolly reffering to christianity, am i right enkidu? so thats the name
of the game innit? hating jesus? mwahaha... too high for you, enkidu, huh?
cant shine that good? what? jelaous? oh i see... good little humans! arent
we a happy bunch, huh? especially atheists... oh my, oh my!
r)Fl^pi^^3
Oh, yeah, if you wish your screed to be taken seriously, at least *try*
to make it look like you put some thought into it.
no. you are here for the 'brain' part of the game... not me. im dumb.
i have faith. and i believe. you are an atheist. yeah, sure atheist... rofl
We all forgive the
rare error, but use upper case to start a sentence, use proper
punctuation, etc.
oh come on! is that the teacher in you talking, or enkidu 'the usenet poster'?
make up yer mind!
If you don't care enough to write in standard English,
I don't care enough to read it.
oh... now... oh my god... damn... i mean... im speechless! WOW!
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| User: "Enkidu the Atheist" |
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| Title: Re: Catholic Weekly Exploits Naked Women |
06 Nov 2005 05:05:32 PM |
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"shadow" <shadow@sun.org> wrote in news:436e879d_2@x-privat.org:
oh... now... oh my god... damn... i mean... im speechless! WOW!
I think you meant "oh... now... oh my god... damn... i mean... im
thoughtless! WOW!" though it's hard to tell, 'cause you're mostly
incomprehensible.
--
Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
PGP ID: 0xC4CE8CF0
"Guns don't kill people, people kill people, and monkeys do too (if they
have a gun)."
* Eddie Izzard
(02/07/1962 - )
English comic
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| User: "shadow" |
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| Title: Re: Catholic Weekly Exploits Naked Women |
07 Nov 2005 08:40:24 AM |
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"Enkidu the Atheist" <enkidu@leaddogs.org> wrote in message
news:Xns9706998C36455255229@130.133.1.4...
"shadow" <shadow@sun.org> wrote in news:436e879d_2@x-privat.org:
oh... now... oh my god... damn... i mean... im speechless! WOW!
I think you meant "oh... now... oh my god... damn... i mean... im
thoughtless! WOW!" though it's hard to tell, 'cause you're mostly
incomprehensible.
sure enkidu...
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| User: "Budikka666" |
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| Title: Re: Catholic Weekly Exploits Naked Women |
07 Nov 2005 05:14:08 PM |
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shadow wrote:
"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:1131279052.477492.124770@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
shadow wrote:
so, how come? why are you, as an atheist, so interrested in bible?
god? jesus? religion? faith? tell me more...
Isn't it curious that when he asks this question and you respond, he
runs away?
who, vic? had too many drinks last night, budikka?
anyway... vic did not answer my question. not by a
long shot.
I responded to your message of November 4th, with mine of November 5th
in this very thread, and here you are avoiding it like the plague and
harassing other people. I guess you think the Bible is to be
interpreted as you see fit, and that 'turning the other cheek" means
mooning your neighbor instead of doing unto him/her as you would be
done by. Why is this entirely unsurprising to us atheists?
Take the plank out of your own eye before you whine about the
insignificant mote you're so blindly convimced you see in the eye of
others.
Budikka
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| User: "shadow" |
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| Title: Re: Catholic Weekly Exploits Naked Women |
07 Nov 2005 05:15:00 PM |
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"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:1131405248.273232.242660@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
shadow wrote:
"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:1131279052.477492.124770@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
shadow wrote:
so, how come? why are you, as an atheist, so interrested in bible?
god? jesus? religion? faith? tell me more...
Isn't it curious that when he asks this question and you respond, he
runs away?
who, vic? had too many drinks last night, budikka?
anyway... vic did not answer my question. not by a
long shot.
I responded to your message of November 4th, with mine of November 5th
in this very thread, and here you are avoiding it like the plague and
harassing other people. I guess you think the Bible is to be
interpreted as you see fit, and that 'turning the other cheek" means
mooning your neighbor instead of doing unto him/her as you would be
done by. Why is this entirely unsurprising to us atheists?
projections, budikka.
Take the plank out of your own eye before you whine about the
insignificant mote you're so blindly convimced you see in the eye of
others.
i see dead people.
rofl!
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| User: "Budikka666" |
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08 Nov 2005 04:08:22 PM |
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shadow wrote:
i see dead people.
No, the dead thing you see is your ability to sustain your position.
Budikka
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| User: "shadow" |
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08 Nov 2005 05:32:43 PM |
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"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
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shadow wrote:
i see dead people.
No, the dead thing you see is your ability to sustain your position.
look, dude, chick... whatever... i can REALLY see dead people!
tell me...
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| User: "Budikka666" |
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| Title: Re: Catholic Weekly Exploits Naked Women |
09 Nov 2005 05:55:33 PM |
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shadow wrote:
"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
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shadow wrote:
i see dead people.
No, the dead thing you see is your ability to sustain your position.
look, dude, chick... whatever... i can REALLY see dead people!
tell me...
What's dead is your brain. Do contact us again when you've had your
transplant. It shouldn't take long, you can't possibly have more than
a handful of functional cells to replace in the first place.
Budikka
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| User: "shadow" |
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| Title: Re: Catholic Weekly Exploits Naked Women |
09 Nov 2005 06:41:50 PM |
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"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
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shadow wrote:
"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:1131487702.603921.318640@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
shadow wrote:
i see dead people.
No, the dead thing you see is your ability to sustain your position.
look, dude, chick... whatever... i can REALLY see dead people!
tell me...
What's dead is your brain. Do contact us again when you've had your
transplant. It shouldn't take long, you can't possibly have more than
a handful of functional cells to replace in the first place.
look, read my lips; I... CAN... SEE... DEAD... PEOPLE!
and theres nothing wrong with my brain! i can just, simply, see
dead people. there are some dead atheists too, and i can see them
too!
help, atheist... what does science has to say about that phenomena?
im a christian. i dont know what science is in the first place, so im asking
you, atheist budikka. you are zo zmart!
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| User: "Budikka666" |
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10 Nov 2005 05:06:06 PM |
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***** you and the juvenile god you rode in on. *That* get the message
through your thick skull?
Budikka
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| User: "shadow" |
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10 Nov 2005 08:36:47 PM |
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"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
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***** you and the juvenile god you rode in on. *That* get the message
through your thick skull?
oh, faul language? should i abuse you?
naaah... im not that kind of person. feel
free to talk anyway you want, budikka.
anyway, good to see some hatred budikka!
i hope you feel better now...
if you need me, just whistle!
roFl!
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| User: "Budikka666" |
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11 Nov 2005 04:08:32 AM |
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And please don't mistake utter disdain for hatred. You're not worth
hatred. You never will be. All you will ever be worth is utter
disdain.
But you're *already* the most stupid person I encountered this month.
Be content with that and try not to make things worse on yourself.
Now if you don't have anything to offer other than demo'ing how
thoroughly idiotic you are, you are of zero interest to me. Idiots are
two-a-penny. Interesting, smart people are extremely rare. But you
obvuously made your choice.
Bye-bye little boy. I think I hear your mommie calling you for your
next feeding.
Budikka
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| User: "shadow" |
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| Title: Re: Catholic Weekly Exploits Naked Women |
11 Nov 2005 11:11:43 AM |
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"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
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And please don't mistake utter disdain for hatred. You're not worth
hatred. You never will be. All you will ever be worth is utter
disdain.
disdain
PRON /dis'dAn
To feel contempt for; to regard with aversion.
wow, im happy for that, atheist! you dont hate me... WOW!
dont lie, atheist!
But you're *already* the most stupid person I encountered this month.
Be content with that and try not to make things worse on yourself.
for myself? what do you mean? ill keep on posting anyway.
what, if you dont agree with me, i should stop posting?
mwahaha...
Now if you don't have anything to offer other than demo'ing how
thoroughly idiotic you are, you are of zero interest to me. Idiots are
two-a-penny. Interesting, smart people are extremely rare. But you
obvuously made your choice.
yeah, thats why you made TWO replies, innit budikka?
i mean, since i'm an idiot. and 'two-a-penny'.
Bye-bye little boy. I think I hear your mommie calling you for your
next feeding.
yeah, im coming... now, i hear someone calling you budikka!
will you answer it? you dont know who is calling?
lemme tell you... its god. one and only. calling you to stop
being an idiot. and realize...
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| User: "Budikka666" |
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11 Nov 2005 04:04:22 AM |
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shadow wrote:
"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
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***** you and the juvenile god you rode in on. *That* get the message
through your thick skull?
oh, faul language? should i abuse you?
naaah... im not that kind of person. feel
free to talk anyway you want, budikka.
anyway, good to see some hatred budikka!
i hope you feel better now...
if you need me, just whistle!
roFl!
If you were even literate, that would be *something*. Which grade are
you in and how many times were you held back? Do you *ever* have
anything intelligent to say? Did you get your congenital stupidity
from your mommie or your daddie? Is this too many quesitons for your
single functioning brain cell to cope with? How did you ever get to be
such a fundamental *****?
Budikka
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| User: "shadow" |
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11 Nov 2005 11:08:49 AM |
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"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
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shadow wrote:
"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:1131663966.310609.313920@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
***** you and the juvenile god you rode in on. *That* get the message
through your thick skull?
oh, faul language? should i abuse you?
naaah... im not that kind of person. feel
free to talk anyway you want, budikka.
anyway, good to see some hatred budikka!
i hope you feel better now...
if you need me, just whistle!
roFl!
If you were even literate, that would be *something*. Which grade are
you in and how many times were you held back?
sorry, english is my 2nd. sorry... but hey, that shoudlnt stop you
to make fun of my english. you go ahead...
Do you *ever* have
anything intelligent to say? Did you get your congenital stupidity
from your mommie or your daddie?
i dont listen to my mommie and my daddie, cause if i was... id
end up like you, budikka! and thats unacceptable! by all means...
now, go figure that one out, honey!
Is this too many quesitons for your
single functioning brain cell to cope with?
no... just answers. waaaay past sie 'questions' part.
sorrrrrryyyyy...
How did you ever get to be
such a fundamental *****?
am not fundamental. thats your projection.
i have nothing against anyone of you atheists. in the first place.
but when i see that you talk about 'reason' and 'understanding'
when you present yourselves... and when i see that you are
NOT what you claim to be... thats when i hit harder than before.
id be MORE THAN HAPPY if you atheists would be 'a step
forward'. finally, an evolution in people's minds. great! i would
be more than happy.
BUT, THAT is NOT the case, atheists!
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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| Title: Re: Catholic Weekly Exploits Naked Women |
04 Nov 2005 08:14:09 PM |
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Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet shadow (shadow@sun.org)
made the light shine upon us with this:
"Uncle Vic" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9703C7A62D799vicman@216.196.97.136...
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet shadow (shadow@sun.org)
made the light shine upon us with this:
"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:1131065310.928331.279900@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/11/03/italy.nude.reut/index.ht
ml
But when you follow a religion which is renowned for exploiting,
abusing, and degrading women, why would yet another episode of
same cause a scandal?
sorry to say; women exploit, abuse, and degrade themselves.
its not religion's fault.
Of course it is. Religion is where persecution began. Doubt it?
Read the Old Testament.
cot damn, you atheists know more about bible, old and new testament,
religion, gods, deities than any theist could EVER know!
Cot damn? That's a new one.
pfff...
Someone open a window!!!
<snip>
I see you dislike atheists. How convenient.
i dont dislike. im still looking for an atheist that speaks
from the heart. that speaks truth. my search continues...
You can stop, our hearts don't have vocal cords, tongues or lips. We speak
from the brain, which activates those things I just mentioned.
all i see are brainwashed, hate ridden individuals who,
Brainwashed? Only in the sense of the song "I'm gonna wash that Man right
outta my hair..."
Hate ridden? Just returning the favor, Bucko.
as it seems, know more about god than god HIMSELF
does!
This is too easy. The only stuff we know about "god" is what is written in
the bible, which you have already mentioned we know more about than most
Christians. Imagine what it must be like, being able to absorb all that
information without running out of memory. Imagine what it must be like,
being able to understand what is written without the misdirection of a
priest or minister; without the shiny happy godfog getting in the way,
which is what we refer to as "brainwashed". There's a lot of goofy stuff
in there, shadowman, and a lot of really immoral stuff too.
and who spew atheist propaganda whenever they
get their chance...
Damn straight! And it's not propaganda, shadowman, it's logic and reason,
which the bible and your religion do not stand up to. Does it hurt? We're
sorry, but reality is reality, and religion is *far* from reality.
oh my, oh my... vic!
looked in the mirror lately? i kinda doubt that you did...
Every morning. Still there. Want to see what I see?
http://home.comcast.net/~vickman/trip14.htm
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BTW, you need a new shift key.
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Uncle Vic
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
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"The world is only 5-6 thousand years old does not mean the planet
earth is only 5-6 thousand years old. There have been many worlds
created and destroyed on this planet. The creation of the planet is
described in Genesis 1. The creation of the world is described in
Genesis 2. Two different kind of creations." --Eric Brze
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| User: "shadow" |
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05 Nov 2005 10:47:37 AM |
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"Uncle Vic" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message news:Xns9704B98391DCCvicman@216.196.97.136...
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet shadow (shadow@sun.org)
made the light shine upon us with this:
"Uncle Vic" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9703C7A62D799vicman@216.196.97.136...
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet shadow (shadow@sun.org)
made the light shine upon us with this:
"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:1131065310.928331.279900@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/11/03/italy.nude.reut/index.ht
ml
But when you follow a religion which is renowned for exploiting,
abusing, and degrading women, why would yet another episode of
same cause a scandal?
sorry to say; women exploit, abuse, and degrade themselves.
its not religion's fault.
Of course it is. Religion is where persecution began. Doubt it?
Read the Old Testament.
cot damn, you atheists know more about bible, old and new testament,
religion, gods, deities than any theist could EVER know!
Cot damn? That's a new one.
yeah. just made it up. write it down. its gonna be the next big hype.
pfff...
Someone open a window!!!
its already opened. care to fly, vic?
<snip>
<red tape it, vic>
I see you dislike atheists. How convenient.
i dont dislike. im still looking for an atheist that speaks
from the heart. that speaks truth. my search continues...
You can stop, our hearts don't have vocal cords, tongues or lips. We speak
from the brain, which activates those things I just mentioned.
oh hm... interresting theory, vic.
all i see are brainwashed, hate ridden individuals who,
Brainwashed? Only in the sense of the song "I'm gonna wash that Man right
outta my hair..."
still... brainwashed.
Hate ridden? Just returning the favor, Bucko.
favor? oh come on... selfrighteousness?
as it seems, know more about god than god HIMSELF
does!
This is too easy. The only stuff we know about "god" is what is written in
the bible, which you have already mentioned we know more about than most
Christians.
no, you know a lot more about then SOME christians. theres a difference.
Imagine what it must be like, being able to absorb all that
information without running out of memory. Imagine what it must be like,
being able to understand what is written without the misdirection of a
priest or minister; without the shiny happy godfog getting in the way,
which is what we refer to as "brainwashed". There's a lot of goofy stuff
in there, shadowman, and a lot of really immoral stuff too.
so? many men added their own stuff. so?
and who spew atheist propaganda whenever they
get their chance...
Damn straight! And it's not propaganda, shadowman, it's logic and reason,
which the bible and your religion do not stand up to. Does it hurt? We're
sorry, but reality is reality, and religion is *far* from reality.
nope. its not true. what you are talking about is the middle ages.
not 21st century. ok? and sorry to say; atheists are no way near
this thing called 'reality'. ok, lemme rephrase that one; atheists
may be 'close' to this thing reality, but thats just not it.
oh my, oh my... vic!
looked in the mirror lately? i kinda doubt that you did...
Every morning. Still there. Want to see what I see?
http://home.comcast.net/~vickman/trip14.htm
wait a minute... sorry, i dont have a web browser.
<snip>
BTW, you need a new shift key.
yeah, broken. send me a few bucks to buy myself a new keyboard?
r)Fl^3
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shadow wrote:
"Uncle Vic" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message news:Xns9703C7A62D799vicman@216.196.97.136...
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet shadow (shadow@sun.org) made
the light shine upon us with this:
"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:1131065310.928331.279900@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/11/03/italy.nude.reut/index.html
But when you follow a religion which is renowned for exploiting,
abusing, and degrading women, why would yet another episode of same
cause a scandal?
sorry to say; women exploit, abuse, and degrade themselves.
its not religion's fault.
Of course it is. Religion is where persecution began. Doubt it? Read
the Old Testament.
cot damn, you atheists know more about bible, old and new testament,
religion, gods, deities than any theist could EVER know!
pfff...
time travelling again, arent we 'vic'?
take a look at MTV for instance, then get back to me, ok?
or take a look at ANY fashion magazine, for example.
look at the billboards, commercials... etc etc...
so you see, atheists? yall just propaganda managers!
atheistic propaganda managers! never ever saying
anything against yourselves, and always attacking
theists. how convenient... for you... atheists!
I see you dislike atheists. How convenient.
i dont dislike. im still looking for an atheist that speaks
from the heart. that speaks truth. my search continues...
all i see are brainwashed, hate ridden individuals who,
as it seems, know more about god than god HIMSELF
does! and who spew atheist propaganda whenever they
get their chance...
oh my, oh my... vic!
looked in the mirror lately? i kinda doubt that you did...
damn, if religion gets 'abolished', what reason to live
will you atheist have then? huh?
The same as we have for living without it now, dumdum.
oh, yes... sure! dont front, vic!
rofl
I assume you are aware that those little upward pointing arrows on your
keyboard, or the keys with "Shift" written on them are there for a
purpose?
USE THEM, Jeebus boy.
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04 Nov 2005 09:02:24 AM |
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"JPG" <j_peasemold_gruntfuttock@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1131096119.081931.96650@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
shadow wrote:
"Uncle Vic" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9703C7A62D799vicman@216.196.97.136...
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet shadow (shadow@sun.org) made
the light shine upon us with this:
"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:1131065310.928331.279900@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/11/03/italy.nude.reut/index.html
But when you follow a religion which is renowned for exploiting,
abusing, and degrading women, why would yet another episode of same
cause a scandal?
sorry to say; women exploit, abuse, and degrade themselves.
its not religion's fault.
Of course it is. Religion is where persecution began. Doubt it? Read
the Old Testament.
cot damn, you atheists know more about bible, old and new testament,
religion, gods, deities than any theist could EVER know!
pfff...
time travelling again, arent we 'vic'?
take a look at MTV for instance, then get back to me, ok?
or take a look at ANY fashion magazine, for example.
look at the billboards, commercials... etc etc...
so you see, atheists? yall just propaganda managers!
atheistic propaganda managers! never ever saying
anything against yourselves, and always attacking
theists. how convenient... for you... atheists!
I see you dislike atheists. How convenient.
i dont dislike. im still looking for an atheist that speaks
from the heart. that speaks truth. my search continues...
all i see are brainwashed, hate ridden individuals who,
as it seems, know more about god than god HIMSELF
does! and who spew atheist propaganda whenever they
get their chance...
oh my, oh my... vic!
looked in the mirror lately? i kinda doubt that you did...
damn, if religion gets 'abolished', what reason to live
will you atheist have then? huh?
The same as we have for living without it now, dumdum.
oh, yes... sure! dont front, vic!
rofl
I assume you are aware that those little upward pointing arrows on your
keyboard, or the keys with "Shift" written on them are there for a
purpose?
no man. im still a n00b. i didnt have the chance to explore my keyboard yet.
in due time, JPG, in due time... meanwhile... you still do understand what
you read, right? with of without 's
USE THEM, Jeebus boy.
you got jeebus in yer pants, son. and ill use 's when i find them. okie?
dokie!
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04 Nov 2005 09:02:24 AM |
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"JPG" <j_peasemold_gruntfuttock@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1131096119.081931.96650@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
shadow wrote:
"Uncle Vic" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9703C7A62D799vicman@216.196.97.136...
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet shadow (shadow@sun.org) made
the light shine upon us with this:
"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:1131065310.928331.279900@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/11/03/italy.nude.reut/index.html
But when you follow a religion which is renowned for exploiting,
abusing, and degrading women, why would yet another episode of same
cause a scandal?
sorry to say; women exploit, abuse, and degrade themselves.
its not religion's fault.
Of course it is. Religion is where persecution began. Doubt it? Read
the Old Testament.
cot damn, you atheists know more about bible, old and new testament,
religion, gods, deities than any theist could EVER know!
pfff...
time travelling again, arent we 'vic'?
take a look at MTV for instance, then get back to me, ok?
or take a look at ANY fashion magazine, for example.
look at the billboards, commercials... etc etc...
so you see, atheists? yall just propaganda managers!
atheistic propaganda managers! never ever saying
anything against yourselves, and always attacking
theists. how convenient... for you... atheists!
I see you dislike atheists. How convenient.
i dont dislike. im still looking for an atheist that speaks
from the heart. that speaks truth. my search continues...
all i see are brainwashed, hate ridden individuals who,
as it seems, know more about god than god HIMSELF
does! and who spew atheist propaganda whenever they
get their chance...
oh my, oh my... vic!
looked in the mirror lately? i kinda doubt that you did...
damn, if religion gets 'abolished', what reason to live
will you atheist have then? huh?
The same as we have for living without it now, dumdum.
oh, yes... sure! dont front, vic!
rofl
I assume you are aware that those little upward pointing arrows on your
keyboard, or the keys with "Shift" written on them are there for a
purpose?
no man. im still a n00b. i didnt have the chance to explore my keyboard yet.
in due time, JPG, in due time... meanwhile... you still do understand what
you read, right? with of without 's
USE THEM, Jeebus boy.
you got jeebus in yer pants, son. and ill use 's when i find them. okie?
dokie!
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04 Nov 2005 04:45:53 AM |
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shadow wrote:
i dont dislike. im still looking for an atheist that speaks
from the heart. that speaks truth. my search continues
You're a liar. You despise atheists because you cannot pull the wool
over their eyes like its been pulled over yours.
I speak the truth, and any time you want to formally debate the
existence of this god of yours, I'll be delighted to take you on. Or
are you just another limp Peter at the passion?
all i see are brainwashed, hate ridden individuals
Thats' exactly right, but they're religious, not atheist. Any time you
want to actually **SUPPORT** your lies with evidence, I'll be delighted
to debate it with you.
who, as it seems, know more about god than god HIMSELF
You presume there is a god in the first place, but it's the believers
who blapshemously claim to know the mind of a god, not atheists. We
don't believe in any gods. Please try to keep that straight.
does! and who spew atheist propaganda whenever they
get their chance...
Atheist propaganda? I thought "Thou shalt not kill" was a religious
tenet? I thought "Do unto others as you would be done by" was a
religious tenet. I thought "Love thy neighrbor" was a religious tenet.
But then what do I know? I guess turnign the other cheek is too old
fashioned for you. Clearly you know better than Jesus, but that's
understandable, since he didn't even exist.
Budikka
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| User: "shadow" |
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04 Nov 2005 09:09:56 AM |
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"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:1131101153.358370.302890@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
shadow wrote:
i dont dislike. im still looking for an atheist that speaks
from the heart. that speaks truth. my search continues
You're a liar. You despise atheists because you cannot pull the wool
over their eyes like its been pulled over yours.
omfg! just one question; are you a woman?
I speak the truth, and any time you want to formally debate the
existence of this god of yours, I'll be delighted to take you on. Or
are you just another limp Peter at the passion?
no, i cannot debate with you. cause you are stubborn. ok, you may
speak speak truth, but youre too stubborn. and why are you stubborn
budikka? cause you are an atheist. if you said; i dont believe in god,
but there is a small chance that there COULD be god... i would find
that a good start. but since that wont happen... so?
all i see are brainwashed, hate ridden individuals
Thats' exactly right, but they're religious, not atheist. Any time you
want to actually **SUPPORT** your lies with evidence, I'll be delighted
to debate it with you.
yeah, no brainwashed atheists. no dumb atheists. no hate ridden atheists.
no liar among atheists. good god, arent you the nicest bunch there is?
who, as it seems, know more about god than god HIMSELF
You presume there is a god in the first place, but it's the believers
who blapshemously claim to know the mind of a god, not atheists. We
don't believe in any gods. Please try to keep that straight.
no, no... dont try dodgin the bullet, budikka. i wasnt talking abou theists,
but atheists. and it happens very often. i hear an atheist talking about
the bible, gods, deities, testaments, revelations, jesus... etc etc. so i
naturally presume you, atheists, know a lot about religion, about god
you dont even believe in.
strange world... r0Fl^2
does! and who spew atheist propaganda whenever they
get their chance...
Atheist propaganda? I thought "Thou shalt not kill" was a religious
tenet? I thought "Do unto others as you would be done by" was a
religious tenet. I thought "Love thy neighrbor" was a religious tenet.
But then what do I know? I guess turnign the other cheek is too old
fashioned for you. Clearly you know better than Jesus, but that's
understandable, since he didn't even exist.
look, i am not turning the other cheek just so you could have your way.
thats NOT the way it goes, my dear atheist friend. think a bit more, budikka.
i dont know better than jesus. jesus is the best. cant ever be better than that.
but... that doesnt mean i hate jesus. like... maybe... you do? hm? oh yes,
he never existed. cause he is not in the books.
tell me, budikka, when you think about 'history' as such, what do you
think, how many great men existed but never had the PRIVILEGE
to be 'a part of the history books'? hm... tell me. after all you are an atheist.
you know what humans are like... so tell me. im interrested...
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04 Nov 2005 01:01:35 PM |
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shadow wrote:
"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:1131101153.358370.302890@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
shadow wrote:
i dont dislike. im still looking for an atheist that speaks
from the heart. that speaks truth. my search continues
You're a liar. You despise atheists because you cannot pull the wool
over their eyes like its been pulled over yours.
omfg! just one question; are you a woman?
I speak the truth, and any time you want to formally debate the
existence of this god of yours, I'll be delighted to take you on. Or
are you just another limp Peter at the passion?
no, i cannot debate with you. cause you are stubborn. ok, you may
speak speak truth, but youre too stubborn. and why are you stubborn
budikka? cause you are an atheist. if you said; i dont believe in god,
but there is a small chance that there COULD be god... i would find
that a good start. but since that wont happen... so?
And would you say that there is a small chance that there isn't
a God?
all i see are brainwashed, hate ridden individuals
Thats' exactly right, but they're religious, not atheist. Any time you
want to actually **SUPPORT** your lies with evidence, I'll be delighted
to debate it with you.
yeah, no brainwashed atheists. no dumb atheists. no hate ridden atheists.
no liar among atheists. good god, arent you the nicest bunch there is?
who, as it seems, know more about god than god HIMSELF
You presume there is a god in the first place, but it's the believers
who blapshemously claim to know the mind of a god, not atheists. We
don't believe in any gods. Please try to keep that straight.
no, no... dont try dodgin the bullet, budikka. i wasnt talking abou theists,
but atheists. and it happens very often. i hear an atheist talking about
the bible, gods, deities, testaments, revelations, jesus... etc etc. so i
naturally presume you, atheists, know a lot about religion, about god
you dont even believe in.
strange world... r0Fl^2
Hey, I attended a Catholic school for five years. I don't know about
Budikka666.
does! and who spew atheist propaganda whenever they
get their chance...
Atheist propaganda? I thought "Thou shalt not kill" was a religious
tenet? I thought "Do unto others as you would be done by" was a
religious tenet. I thought "Love thy neighrbor" was a religious tenet.
But then what do I know? I guess turnign the other cheek is too old
fashioned for you. Clearly you know better than Jesus, but that's
understandable, since he didn't even exist.
look, i am not turning the other cheek just so you could have your way.
thats NOT the way it goes, my dear atheist friend. think a bit more, budikka.
i dont know better than jesus. jesus is the best. cant ever be better than that.
but... that doesnt mean i hate jesus. like... maybe... you do? hm? oh yes,
he never existed. cause he is not in the books.
tell me, budikka, when you think about 'history' as such, what do you
think, how many great men existed but never had the PRIVILEGE
to be 'a part of the history books'? hm... tell me. after all you are an atheist.
you know what humans are like... so tell me. im interrested...
Colin Day aa #1500
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05 Nov 2005 06:49:17 AM |
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shadow wrote:
"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:1131101153.358370.302890@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
shadow wrote:
i dont dislike. im still looking for an atheist that speaks
from the heart. that speaks truth. my search continues
You're a liar. You despise atheists because you cannot pull the wool
over their eyes like its been pulled over yours.
omfg! just one question; are you a woman?
This is the internate. Nationality, gender, race, religion are
irrelevant. What matters is whether you can support your point, and
you, clearly, cannot.
I speak the truth, and any time you want to formally debate the
existence of this god of yours, I'll be delighted to take you on. Or
are you just another limp Peter at the passion?
no, i cannot debate with you
So you're another limp Peter at the Passion. Why am I not surprised by
*that*?
cause you are stubborn. ok, you may
speak speak truth, but youre too stubborn. and why are you stubborn
budikka? cause you are an atheist. if you said; i dont believe in god,
but there is a small chance that there COULD be god... i would find
that a good start. but since that wont happen... so?
When you have a clue what an atheist is, then you might get somewhere.
Clearly you do not, because even in this very paragraph where you
accuse me of being stubborn, you stubbornly cling to clueless
definitions of atheism.
When it comes to believing in gods, there is no difference between you
and me *except* that I believe in one less god than you do. If we were
to list all the gods in which humans have ever believed, with Yahweh
last, and checked off the ones we don't accept, you would mirror me
*every single step of the way* and you would give the same sorts of
reasons that I do.
But when we reached that last god, you would disagree, and you would
have no evidential, logical or rational reason for doing so. You
*stobbornly* insists that *that* god is real. I don't.
My position is consistent. Yours is not. My position is that there is
no evidence for any god, and *that's* why I don't believe. If someone
were to present valid, testable evidence for this god, I would change
my position, but there is nothing I could ever say to you that would
change your position. So please, get a clue about what stubbornness
is.
yeah, no brainwashed atheists. no dumb atheists. no hate ridden atheists.
no liar among atheists. good god, arent you the nicest bunch there is?
This is a fine comment form someone who claims to be a follower of
Jesus. I guess the charge to turn the other cheek and do unto others
as you would be done by is optional, isn;t it, like everythign else int
eh Bible. That's why there are 20,000 sects in Christianity. This
means that in the entire ~2,000 years since Jesus supposedly lived,
there has been a brand new sect almost every month - a split between
Christians as to what the Bible means. That's pretty pathetic.
Christinas were arguing about how Christianity should be just a few
years after the supposed death of this mythical Jesus *according to the
Bible itself*. How can you possibly believe that there really was such
a charismatic figure if the result if his presence left such an
appalling disarray?
You presume there is a god in the first place, but it's the believers
who blapshemously claim to know the mind of a god, not atheists. We
don't believe in any gods. Please try to keep that straight.
no, no... dont try dodgin the bullet, budikka. i wasnt talking abou theists,
but atheists. and it happens very often. i hear an atheist talking about
the bible, gods, deities, testaments, revelations, jesus... etc etc. so i
naturally presume you, atheists, know a lot about religion, about god
you dont even believe in.
So? But whatever atheists say is not blasphemous. We did not invent a
super-sacred god and then blasphemously claim to know what this god is
thinking - what this god wants. Believers do that daily and have done
ever since they invented this god. Yet not one of them can demonstrate
any authority for the claims they make!
look, i am not turning the other cheek just so you could have your way.
thats NOT the way it goes
Another Biblical interpretation. What gives *you* the authority to
edit your god's words?
i dont know better than jesus. jesus is the best. cant ever be better than that.
That would be a fine statement if there ever was a Jesus, but there
wasn't. It was nothing but a re-invention of the myth of Mithra. Look
it up some time:
http://tinyurl.com/co5xw
http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/kersey_graves/16/chap19.html
but... that doesnt mean i hate jesus. like... maybe... you do? hm? oh yes,
he never existed. cause he is not in the books.
That's right. He's a myth.
tell me, budikka, when you think about 'history' as such, what do you
think, how many great men existed but never had the PRIVILEGE
to be 'a part of the history books'?
But you know what? Nobody worships them. Nobody pretends they know
all about them. Nobody pretends they were resurrected. Nobody
pretends people existed who did not. Except religious believers and
writers of fiction.
Budikka
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09 Nov 2005 12:05:41 PM |
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"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:1131194957.785921.142060@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
shadow wrote:
"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:1131101153.358370.302890@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
shadow wrote:
i dont dislike. im still looking for an atheist that speaks
from the heart. that speaks truth. my search continues
You're a liar. You despise atheists because you cannot pull the wool
over their eyes like its been pulled over yours.
omfg! just one question; are you a woman?
This is the internate. Nationality, gender, race, religion are
irrelevant. What matters is whether you can support your point, and
you, clearly, cannot.
was just asking, budikka. and i dont mean, like; if you are a woman,
you shut shut up. or anything like it. ok?
I speak the truth, and any time you want to formally debate the
existence of this god of yours, I'll be delighted to take you on. Or
are you just another limp Peter at the passion?
no, i cannot debate with you
So you're another limp Peter at the Passion. Why am I not surprised by
*that*?
nope. sorry... youve been watching too much television, budikka.
but hey, you are an american. yall have tv sets attached to your
brains. 24/7. thats america. i can live with that.
rofl!
cause you are stubborn. ok, you may
speak speak truth, but youre too stubborn. and why are you stubborn
budikka? cause you are an atheist. if you said; i dont believe in god,
but there is a small chance that there COULD be god... i would find
that a good start. but since that wont happen... so?
When you have a clue what an atheist is, then you might get somewhere.
Clearly you do not, because even in this very paragraph where you
accuse me of being stubborn, you stubbornly cling to clueless
definitions of atheism.
i have a clue. i just dont believe your crap when you say 'atheists are
people who dont believe in gods'. i tend to look 'beneath' that statement...
and what do we have there? oh my, oh my budikka! none of you want
to talk about whats 'beneath' it all. what a shame...
When it comes to believing in gods, there is no difference between you
and me *except* that I believe in one less god than you do. If we were
to list all the gods in which humans have ever believed, with Yahweh
last, and checked off the ones we don't accept, you would mirror me
*every single step of the way* and you would give the same sorts of
reasons that I do.
there is onyl one god.
But when we reached that last god, you would disagree, and you would
have no evidential, logical or rational reason for doing so. You
*stobbornly* insists that *that* god is real. I don't.
i am NOT insisting. i KNOW. thats a difference.
My position is consistent. Yours is not. My position is that there is
no evidence for any god, and *that's* why I don't believe.
maybe you are too blind to see. ever thought about THAT option?
If someone
were to present valid, testable evidence for this god, I would change
my position,
oh, then you would? so like, you would believe in god if there was
'real' evidence of his existance. and i guess you would like for this sky
pixie to fullfill your wishes, to help you resolve your problems etc etc.
so, thats a new one, budikka.
as i said, yall atheists KNOW there is god. but you wont believe in
him until there is some hard evidence of his existance.
but there is nothing I could ever say to you that would
change your position. So please, get a clue about what stubbornness
is.
am not stubborn. i just dont like people twisting their words, and pretending
something they are not. which, in this case, yall atheists tend to that. pretend.
and act as if you are 'better' than theists. thats all. but on the other hand, you claim
that you (atheists) are resonable, realistic, smart... and all the other 'goodie goodie'
crap. what about BAD stuff, huh?
yeah, no brainwashed atheists. no dumb atheists. no hate ridden atheists.
no liar among atheists. good god, arent you the nicest bunch there is?
This is a fine comment form someone who claims to be a follower of
Jesus.
i am. so? i guess that seems to be the problem, innit budikka?
I guess the charge to turn the other cheek and do unto others
as you would be done by is optional, isn;t it, like everythign else int
eh Bible.
so like, I MUST turn the other cheek, every time you 'attack' me?
oh well, oh well.. if you turn the other cheek, so will i. if you insist
on playing the game by the rules, so will i. but if youre 'attacking' me
and yet expecting me to turn the other cheek, without you doing
the same... sorry. thats LOW! very, very LOW! and you atheists
KNOW that. but you pay no mind.
you atheists are hypocrites. evil. thats what you are. expecting from
every christian to turn the oher cheek, just because thats what the
bible says? to turn the other cheek while you spew your hatred and
evil towards christians? oh my, oh my budikka! its OK what the bible
says when you 'attack' christians, but when a christians 'attacks' you,
then its not so ok, huh budikka? LOW! HYPOCRISY!
if i, as a christian, am a hypocrite, SO ARE YOU budikka! and any
other atheist out there! so, tell me once again, WHATS the difference
then? HUH, budikka?
and how come you CARE what the bible says about 'turning the other cheek'?
you dont read bible, you are not a christian, you dont go to church, you
dont believe in god... but you find it very conveniant to patronize christians
for 'not turning the other cheek'. i am asking you; WHY should i? when you
are such a hypocrite, budikka? huh? just so you can continue to slander me?
to slander theists, jesus, god, christianity? i dont think so, budikka!
as i said, jesus has been taking one for the team, for too fuc*ing long!
That's why there are 20,000 sects in Christianity. This
means that in the entire ~2,000 years since Jesus supposedly lived,
there has been a brand new sect almost every month - a split between
Christians as to what the Bible means. That's pretty pathetic.
that are the doings of evil people. jesus has nothing to do with it.
he did his part. which i cant say for you, budikka. nor me, as a matter
of fact. NONE of us. to be blatantly true.
Christinas were arguing about how Christianity should be just a few
years after the supposed death of this mythical Jesus *according to the
Bible itself*. How can you possibly believe that there really was such
a charismatic figure if the result if his presence left such an
appalling disarray?
look, jesus died. with his death, christianity as such was bound to go
wrong. if jesus lived, things would be much different. THATS why
they killed jesus, dumb atheist, in the first place. and you atheists
are here just to make sure that jesus doesnt come back again. cause
we all know what will happen if jesus comes back...
but jesus comes back, again... and again... and again... and again...
many times. all of the time.
You presume there is a god in the first place, but it's the believers
who blapshemously claim to know the mind of a god, not atheists. We
don't believe in any gods. Please try to keep that straight.
no, no... dont try dodgin the bullet, budikka. i wasnt talking abou theists,
but atheists. and it happens very often. i hear an atheist talking about
the bible, gods, deities, testaments, revelations, jesus... etc etc. so i
naturally presume you, atheists, know a lot about religion, about god
you dont even believe in.
So? But whatever atheists say is not blasphemous. We did not invent a
super-sacred god and then blasphemously claim to know what this god is
thinking - what this god wants. Believers do that daily and have done
ever since they invented this god. Yet not one of them can demonstrate
any authority for the claims they make!
i can claim it. try jumping off some building, try flying, try not breathing...
try putting your hands in fire... there are many, many examples!
which you, smart and wise atheists, put in the realm of 'science'. science
would have NEVER existed if it wasnt for this 'invisible god thing'.
we'd still be a bunch of monkeys. wait, we still are... ROFL!
look, i am not turning the other cheek just so you could have your way.
thats NOT the way it goes
Another Biblical interpretation. What gives *you* the authority to
edit your god's words?
am not editing. others did that, way before me... so it seems! rofl!
i dont know better than jesus. jesus is the best. cant ever be better than that.
That would be a fine statement if there ever was a Jesus, but there
wasn't. It was nothing but a re-invention of the myth of Mithra. Look
it up some time:
http://tinyurl.com/co5xw
http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/kersey_graves/16/chap19.html
jesus. was. is. and always will be... REAL! as real as you or me.
but... that doesnt mean i hate jesus. like... maybe... you do? hm? oh yes,
he never existed. cause he is not in the books.
That's right. He's a myth.
wouldnt YOU, atheist, like that, huh?
lmao!
thats why the concept of atheism exists in the first place. to make sure
jesus doesnt come back, and not only that... to make people believe
that he never, never ever ever existed. which is pretty pathetic. if jesus
existed, and he really was a human being capable of things which most
of us are NOT capable, and if he really was 'a son of god'... oh my!
id take jesus over marx, or nietzche, or any of other great men... ANY
time! at least, we would understand this whole thing called 'existance'.
this way... here we are, 2005 years later... and we are as dumb as our
ancestors were!
tell me, budikka, when you think about 'history' as such, what do you
think, how many great men existed but never had the PRIVILEGE
to be 'a part of the history books'?
But you know what? Nobody worships them. Nobody pretends they know
all about them. Nobody pretends they were resurrected. Nobody
pretends people existed who did not. Except religious believers and
writers of fiction.
yeah, you have some serious problems and issues with this 'jesus' dude.
or this 'myth' called jesus. it doesnt matter, when it comes to you budikka (imho),
whether he existed or not... you just cant stand, or grasp the 'allmightyness'
of jesus. thats all.
btw, if jesus existed, you know what i think people would think about him?
90pct of people would HATE him as MUCH AS THEY CAN! why? cause
they are people! evil. envy. jealousy. etc etc...
yeah, deal with whats INSIDE, atheists! then i would say 'you are right'!
until then... sorry. jesus does it for me! and jesus... IS... THE MAN!
respect!
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05 Nov 2005 03:02:29 PM |
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Budikka666 wrote:
When it comes to believing in gods, there is no difference between you
and me *except* that I believe in one less god than you do.
The difference is that you believe in some subset of the societal
values that happen to be fashionable and convenient in the tiny bit of
space-time that you happened to be born in. Quite naturally you can't
justify this, or even state it, so you resort to slagging off people
who have a more rational system of belief. This is tedious. Those who
cannot state their own position are debarred from criticising that of
others.
My position is consistent. Yours is not. My position is that there is
no evidence for any god, and *that's* why I don't believe.
Your position is unquestioning credulity. I suggest you start
explaining it.
yeah, no brainwashed atheists. no dumb atheists. no hate ridden atheists.
no liar among atheists. good god, arent you the nicest bunch there is?
This is a fine comment form someone who claims to be a follower of
Jesus.
And an accurate one.
That would be a fine statement if there ever was a Jesus, but there
wasn't. It was nothing but a re-invention of the myth of Mithra. Look
it up some time:
http://tinyurl.com/co5xw
http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/kersey_graves/16/chap19.html
Only the most ignorant believe nonsense like this. Why not be more
critical? But then, I suppose unquestioning credulity in whatever is
convenient does tend to rot the critical faculties.
All the best,
Roger Pearse
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06 Nov 2005 06:09:19 AM |
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wrote:
Funny, but when I deleted everything that was sour grapes narrow-minded
*****, everything that failed to respond directly to the points I
had made, and everything that had nothing to do with the topic at hand,
there wasn't anything left to respond to. But please do try again.
*Never* underestimate your entertainment value here in alt.atheism.
Budikka
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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04 Nov 2005 09:06:03 AM |
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What's so funny about peace, love and "shadow" <shadow@sun.org>
posting the following on Fri, 4 Nov 2005 03:36:41 +0100 iin
alt.atheism?
damn, if religion gets 'abolished', what reason to live
will you atheist have then? huh?
The San Francisco Giants.
--
Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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| User: "Budikka666" |
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04 Nov 2005 04:38:33 AM |
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shadow wrote:
"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:1131065310.928331.279900@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/11/03/italy.nude.reut/index.html
But when you follow a religion which is renowned for exploiting,
abusing, and degrading women, why would yet another episode of same
cause a scandal?
sorry to say; women exploit, abuse, and degrade themselves.
And you don't care, obviously. But this is precisely the response I
would expect from someone who has been mercilessly indoctrinated with
the lie that women are second rate.
its not religion's fault.
Oh yes it is. The Bible is the root of all evil.
take a look at MTV for instance
I'd rather not.
then get back to me, ok?
I'll get back to you when you actually have a valid point and can
support it with evidence, okay?
or take a look at ANY fashion magazine, for example.
And who is it that put women in tha tposition in the first place?
look at the billboards, commercials... etc etc...
The ones showing world-wide death and starvation and ebgging for
financial help because there is no god to help?
so you see, atheists? yall just propaganda managers!
This is pretty pathetic coming form someone who swallowed whole a book
of myths.
atheistic propaganda managers! never ever saying
anything against yourselves, and always attacking
theists. how convenient... for you... atheists!
When the atheists launch a crusade into the Middle East and start
hanging witches, then you can blather. But who was it who slaughtered
the witches and the muslims and wiped out the native Americans? Oh
yeah, that's right, it was the Christians.
damn, if religion gets 'abolished', what reason to live
will you atheist have then? huh?
We'll party like it's 2099.
Budikka
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