". R. L. Measures" <_r@somis.org> wrote in message
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In article <42a0fa42$0$16857$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>, "Behold
Clayton...The Anti-Jeebus!!" <cjfat@SPAMBLOCKphonymails.com> wrote:

". R. L. Measures" <_r@somis.org> wrote in message
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In article <hqOne.4990$hT6.3339@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net>, "Katt"
<seruhshjaudn@dfhu.net> wrote:

"bam" <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote in message
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"Katt" <seruhshjaudn@dfhu.net> wrote

Even more amazing is the way 'He' appears to be fooled by the

so-called

'rhtythym method' beloved by the Catholic Church!

Of course being a textbook Jackass you wouldn't see that "rhythm"

is

merely abstinence and there's nothing wrong with abstinence.

A textbook jackass? Well, maybe so: I might be reading all the wrong
textbooks. But somehow I'm *still* smart enough not to be fooled by

the

*dishonest little word games* you sad people play -- and *also* smart

enough

to see that the *real* reason your fascist scum 'church' likes the

so-called

'rhythm method' is simply this: *it doesn't fucking work*...!

Ladies and gentlemen: I give you *yesterday's religion*! If they can't

get

their filthy hands on the young, the uneducated, and the mad, then

*they're

finished* -- and *they know it*...!

** ... and the education the young are getting on the *****

their worst nemesis. For example, what Internet-savvy 11 yr old
heterosexual boy would seek to become an altar-boy?

I don't think the homosexual ones would want to become one either! They
wouldn't want to be abused by an old priest either!

** What if the priest is say in his mid-20s and the boy already realizes
that he is not attracted to girls?

Well he's still 11 years old!

There was a time when the book's very *boringness* was a defence against
any 'ordinary' person ever really studying it - and since it has no index,
it's hard > for such a person to research its treatment of specific topics
unless they either have access to a serious academic library, or can spend
half a year reading every single crap-filled page and making a card-index
as they go.... But with web-based searching, they can, in literally a
matter of *seconds*, find all the details they want!

". R. L. Measures" <_r@somis.org> wrote in message
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Ladies and gentlemen: I give you *yesterday's religion*! If they can't
get
their filthy hands on the young, the uneducated, and the mad, then
*they're
finished* -- and *they know it*...!

** ... and the education the young are getting on the ***** Internet is
their worst nemesis. For example, what Internet-savvy 11 yr old
heterosexual boy would seek to become an altar-boy?

Absolutely!! And I was just thinking about how *easy* the net has made it
for kids to spin through the 'Wholly Babble'

and see all the idiocies and
contradictions and ludicrous absurdities it contains!!

There was a time when
the book's very *boringness* was a defence against any 'ordinary' person
ever really studying it - and since it has no index, it's hard for such a
person to research its treatment of specific topics unless they either have
access to a serious academic library, or can spend half a year reading every
single crap-filled page and making a card-index as they go.... But with
web-based searching, they can, in literally a matter of *seconds*, find all
the details they want!

I mean, what an *amazing* resource it is that can
produce, in no time at all, a list of the Babble's *176 references* - most
of them highly questionable if not downright deranged - to 'sexual' matters:
http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/sex/long.htm

With access to factual data like this, more and more people will be
*inoculating themselves against the viral meme*...!

"And you know that can't be bad...!"

:-)

Katt.

Katt.

On Fri, 03 Jun 2005 01:31:57 GMT, "Katt" <seruhshjaudn@dfhu.net>
wrote:

"bam" <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote in message
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"Katt" <seruhshjaudn@dfhu.net> wrote

Even more amazing is the way 'He' appears to be fooled by the so-called
'rhtythym method' beloved by the Catholic Church!

Of course being a textbook Jackass you wouldn't see that "rhythm" is
merely abstinence and there's nothing wrong with abstinence.

A textbook jackass? Well, maybe so: I might be reading all the wrong
textbooks. But somehow I'm *still* smart enough not to be fooled by the
*dishonest little word games* you sad people play -- and *also* smart enough
to see that the *real* reason your fascist scum 'church' likes the so-called
'rhythm method' is simply this: *it doesn't fucking work*...!

Ladies and gentlemen: I give you *yesterday's religion*! If they can't get
their filthy hands on the young, the uneducated, and the mad, then *they're
finished* -- and *they know it*...!

This is one of the hideous truths that turned me against the church
many years ago.

There is a big difference between wanting to help people and expecting
nothing in return (charity) and wanting to help people in return for
their alliegance (buying people). In the town where I lived, the
church set up houses for the moderately insane who the Conservative's
'care in the community' policy had rendered homeless (the policy
simply had thousands of people incapable of coping in society thrown
out of mental hospitals). Nothing wrong with that. The problem was the
way in which they treated the people who they offered their help to.

I knew one of them. A schizophrenic and very impressionable teenager.
He had a lot of problems, but what they did to him was unbelievable.
Instead of just helping him out with a place to stay and something to
eat, they filled his head with some truly awful ideas - like his
illness being a result of the evil inside him, that other members of
his family (atheists) were in league with Satan, that it was his fault
that he was ill because he was not 'with Jesus'. By the time those
bastards had finished with him he was so ridden with guilt and
paranoia that I don't think I ever saw him happy again. He was torn in
two, sometimes believing that he was ill and taking his medication,
and sometimes believing that it was all down to some superstitious
claptrap and coming off his meds and going completely haywire.

These people (mainstream Christians) were deliberately targetting the
mentally weak and others who desperately needed help, and turning them
against their families and towards the church. They were recruiting.
It wasn't charity at all, although that's how they seemed to see it.
It was a truly evil and selfish little setup run by ignorant fools who
didn't give a crap about the misery they were causing because they
believed they were right, and that god *wanted* them to brainwash
mentally ill people.

The various Christian churches are still behaving like this, and on a
massive scale. Many of their charities and missionaries (famous
through the ages for demanding religious affiliation in return for
aid) used the Tsunami disaster as an opportunity to force thousands of
people to adopt their religion, offering them assistance if they
abandoned their own religious beliefs in favour of the Jesus cult.
What choice do you have if you're homeless and starving?

Atheist charity is so much safer. It does not demand an alliegance to
atheism, it just gives where help is needed and leaves it at that.
Religion is not involved in the process. After the Tsunami
revelations, I no longer give any money to Christian charities. I'm
very careful to avoid any that use any sort of religious language in
their literature, and give my money instead to the many secular
charities. I'll be damned if I'm going to support that sort of
behaviour.


Mephisto

In article <KWNne.53411$CR5.35255@bignews1.bellsouth.net>, "bam"
<mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote:

"Katt" <seruhshjaudn@dfhu.net> wrote

Even more amazing is the way 'He' appears to be fooled by the so-called
'rhtythym method' beloved by the Catholic Church!

Of course being a textbook Jackass

** congrats on lighting her fuse, Katt.

you wouldn't see that "rhythm" is merely
abstinence and there's nothing wrong with abstinence.

** There's nothing wrong with NFP

because it can result in pregnancy in
women who have two funcioning ovaries, who have an orgasm during coitus.

The only main difference is that contraception
happens to be more reliable.

The only relevant issue is that it is a
method that is purposely designed with the intention to cheat the
normal requirement that sex must be for the purpose of reproduction
only.