Gastrich's only defense is based on repeating again and again the
same old disinformation. An example below is when called out for being
a pathological liar he comes out with statements such as:
"Nobody could even try and argue why I was a liar, yet they kept
calling me one."

QUOTE from Gastrich Dec 2004 http://tinyurl.com/ce6dj

I've learned several things in my return. One is that many > people

will accuse me of things and have absolutely

nothing to back them up with. The circular "liar" posts
people from a few days ago show this. Nobody could
even try and argue why I was a liar, yet they kept calling
me one. Eventually, someone said that I was a liar
because I was a Christian and all Christians are liars. This
pretty much summed it up.

In short, I'm happy to see that absolutely nobody has
anything of substance against me that I need to clarify.
You, on the same hand, have nothing of substance, too.
However, I think you are assuming a few things.

END QUOTE from Gastrich Dec 2004

He makes these statements despite the evidence piling up
around him. He conveniently kill files all critics and voices
of reason. Why does Jason Gastrich persist in this delusion
behavior?

So lets just humor Gastrich for a bit here, is there any
evidence that he lies?

In fact there are quite a few well documented cases of this that have
occurred in usenet over the last two years.

He has been dishonest about his Th.D. and uses the prefix
"Dr." in a way that would suggest he earned the degree. If
you want more information here is one of many links that
can be found on usenet (http://tinyurl.com/62heb). Notice
he was not only dishonest about his degree but he created
an alumni page of a university to give the impression he was
a distinguished alumni despite his name not appearing on
the real alumni page.

He forged an e-mail from some called Farrell Till and wrote
in that e-mail that he had "gay urges". This was specifically
designed to embarrass Till and was clearly fraudulent. If you
want more information here is one of many links that can be
found on usenet (http://tinyurl.com/5vf4k). Gastrich's
version of events is that he admitted this fraud and has
apologised. What he fails to mention is that he refused to
admit he had actually done it until he got nailed due to his IP
number being associated with the post. He only admitted he
had done it after being challenged with proof that he could
not deny.

There were some issues with a company called Hot Lava
Software where he broke his agreement with regard to his
advertising subcontract. Once busted on this issue HLS broke
off the contract with Jason since he had acted in bad faith. If
you want more information here is one of many links that can
be found on usenet (http://tinyurl.com/4seja).

He filed a frivalous lawsuit over an alleged copyright
infringement. This was particularly malicious since he never
even showed up in court to defend himself and was designed
to make Durango Bill hire a lawyer to defend himself. If you
want more information here is one link and many others can
be found on usenet
(http://www.durangobill.com/Jas onLawsuit.html). When
questioned about said lawsuit he claimed he filed for $200
damages but in fact the real court documents show it was in
fact $2000. He has claims that he had proof that he filed
for $200 and said he would post the evidence,; nothing
appeared. All he has done is maintain that the court made a
mistake and he has posted their phone number. Hardly proof.
He also withheld the case number thus obfuscating anyone
that wanted to follow up his claim. He only posted it after
someone else had identified the case, pretending he had posted
it voluntarily. As with the Farrell Till apology, too late to be
believable or sincere.

There are more examples but this should be enough to
convince anyone that he should not be trusted. If anyone has
other examples at hand please feel free to add to this list. A few
spring to mind,

1) Hosting the atheist list despite persistent requests to remove it
from his web site.

2) Owning domain names that are strikingly similar to web sites
that disagree with his own philosophy of life. Then using
domain squatting tactics to divert traffic to his own site.

3) Consistently misrepresenting the aims of his ministry. He is
supposedly her to minister to unbelievers but kill files them on a
whim. Actually, not a whim, but when they ask questions rather
than instantly converting based on his testimony.

4) What is the connection between his secular business (NKLV)
and his registered christian charity (JCSM)?
http://tinyurl.com/axor3

5) Others?

David D.

Ron Baker wrote:

"Dr. Jason Gastrich" <news@jcsm.org> wrote in message
news:FMCxb.53839$t01.52585@twister.socal.rr.com...

Christians Kill wrote:

"angelicusrex" <whisperindave@msn.com> wrote in message
news:<bq3sde$1t2o5t$1@ID-168098.news.uni-berlin.de>...

What miracles have you done in His name?

I healed a man's epilepsy in Jesus' name.

Hello,

Thanks for trying to show there is an error in the Bible. I'm sorry that
you were unable to do so.

In order to be a good steward of my time and resources, I need to move

the alt.atheism subscribers and invest my time elsewhere.

Gastrich's only defense is based on repeating again and again the
same old disinformation. An example below is when called out for
being a pathological liar he comes out with statements such as:
"Nobody could even try and argue why I was a liar, yet they kept
calling me one."

QUOTE from Gastrich Dec 2004 http://tinyurl.com/ce6dj

I've learned several things in my return. One is that many > people

will accuse me of things and have absolutely

nothing to back them up with. The circular "liar" posts
people from a few days ago show this. Nobody could
even try and argue why I was a liar, yet they kept calling
me one. Eventually, someone said that I was a liar
because I was a Christian and all Christians are liars. This
pretty much summed it up.

In short, I'm happy to see that absolutely nobody has
anything of substance against me that I need to clarify.
You, on the same hand, have nothing of substance, too.
However, I think you are assuming a few things.

END QUOTE from Gastrich Dec 2004

He makes these statements despite the evidence piling up
around him. He conveniently kill files all critics and voices
of reason. Why does Jason Gastrich persist in this delusion
behavior?

So lets just humor Gastrich for a bit here, is there any
evidence that he lies?

In fact there are quite a few well documented cases of this that have
occurred in usenet over the last two years.

He has been dishonest about his Th.D. and uses the prefix
"Dr." in a way that would suggest he earned the degree. If
you want more information here is one of many links that
can be found on usenet (http://tinyurl.com/62heb). Notice
he was not only dishonest about his degree but he created
an alumni page of a university to give the impression he was
a distinguished alumni despite his name not appearing on
the real alumni page.

He forged an e-mail from some called Farrell Till and wrote
in that e-mail that he had "gay urges". This was specifically
designed to embarrass Till and was clearly fraudulent. If you
want more information here is one of many links that can be
found on usenet (http://tinyurl.com/5vf4k). Gastrich's
version of events is that he admitted this fraud and has
apologised. What he fails to mention is that he refused to
admit he had actually done it until he got nailed due to his IP
number being associated with the post. He only admitted he
had done it after being challenged with proof that he could
not deny.

There were some issues with a company called Hot Lava
Software where he broke his agreement with regard to his
advertising subcontract. Once busted on this issue HLS broke
off the contract with Jason since he had acted in bad faith. If
you want more information here is one of many links that can
be found on usenet (http://tinyurl.com/4seja).

He filed a frivalous lawsuit over an alleged copyright
infringement. This was particularly malicious since he never
even showed up in court to defend himself and was designed
to make Durango Bill hire a lawyer to defend himself. If you
want more information here is one link and many others can
be found on usenet
(http://www.durangobill.com/Jas onLawsuit.html). When
questioned about said lawsuit he claimed he filed for $200
damages but in fact the real court documents show it was in
fact $2000. He has claims that he had proof that he filed
for $200 and said he would post the evidence,; nothing
appeared. All he has done is maintain that the court made a
mistake and he has posted their phone number. Hardly proof.
He also withheld the case number thus obfuscating anyone
that wanted to follow up his claim. He only posted it after
someone else had identified the case, pretending he had posted
it voluntarily. As with the Farrell Till apology, too late to be
believable or sincere.

There are more examples but this should be enough to
convince anyone that he should not be trusted. If anyone has
other examples at hand please feel free to add to this list. A few
spring to mind,

1) Hosting the atheist list despite persistent requests to remove it
from his web site.

2) Owning domain names that are strikingly similar to web sites
that disagree with his own philosophy of life. Then using
domain squatting tactics to divert traffic to his own site.

3) Consistently misrepresenting the aims of his ministry. He is
supposedly her to minister to unbelievers but kill files them on a
whim. Actually, not a whim, but when they ask questions rather
than instantly converting based on his testimony.

4) What is the connection between his secular business (NKLV)
and his registered christian charity (JCSM)?
http://tinyurl.com/axor3

5) Others?

So lets just humor Gastrich for a bit here