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Religions > Atheism |
| User: |
"Enkidu the Atheist" |
| Date: |
19 Nov 2005 05:23:35 PM |
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Chat with an ex-Muslim atheist in Algeria |
This guy popped up on Skype chat. He's an atheist in a North African
country. I've altered the details to obscure his identity.
English is *not* his first language.
[11/18/2005 9:35:09 AM] P******* says: :D Flying Spaghetti that's the
best argument i can debate the very silly religeous in my country *****
thanks for the link brother!
[7:36:04 AM] Enkidu the Atheist says: Hello, and good day.
[7:41:29 AM] P******* says: i've 2 questions if u permit then u can end
the conversation if u want just two simple question?
[7:41:37 AM] Enkidu the Atheist says: OK.
[7:42:59 AM] P******* says: are u atheist?if no so the conversation is
over if yes how do u live in the usa with this tought here in **** if u
say u don't believe in the so called god it's the end of the world for u
and u'll be considered as a servent of devil
[7:44:55 AM] Enkidu the Atheist says: I can't help what other people
think, but I don't believe in the devil either.
[7:51:03 AM] P******* says: in islam my ex-religion the real statment and
reaction toward ones who leave islam(like me) is killing after 3 days if
they don't return , thanks to the 0.03% of democracy practised here
[7:53:38 AM] Enkidu the Atheist says: And that is why we have a
historical separation between the government and religion in my country.
Christians used to kill each other for not being the right kind of
christian, just as Muslims have done and continue doing today. However,
that separation in under attack in my country by those who would force
their religion on all.
[7:58:15 AM] P******* says: islam is a very danger cause some modern
doctrine are making tremendeous efforts to achieve places in goverment
(like what's happening in iran) , they want to achieve there in the name
of democracy and ellections ,but after being there ...!! hhh hoooooppss
the democracy is over the islamic teaching don't allow unbelievers or
even seculars to head the nation so the governors believers have no
choice they should do it since they are believers how bad and dangereous
this islamic dogma!!
[7:59:55 AM] Enkidu the Atheist says: Yes, like Iran, where there are
elections, but unelected religious leaders choose who is on the ballot
and who is not. That is not democracy, not even an election in any
meaningful sense.
[8:01:16 AM] P******* says: before i thought atheists are a kind of
machines with no pitybut after experiencing some of them ... they are the
best people in the world their mind are very open their circle of love
and compasion is very wide if there is limit at all cause the cirle is
limited simply they are very few and the world need them to survive
[8:03:20 AM] Enkidu the Atheist says: Well, we're not perfect, but I
think we see the world and our place in it clearly, and we understand
that *WE* must make the world better for ourselves and our children,
because there is no God to do it for us.
[8:04:12 AM] P******* says: and that's why i like them and that's why i
become atheist 3 months before
[8:05:30 AM] P******* says: my first wake up to reality , u acn't believe
it's a book dedicated agaist atheist after reading no more than 4 or 5
chapters the very little quotes were as strong as the light of sun
[8:06:13 AM] Enkidu the Atheist says: Watch yourself. True believers are
dangerous. They kill and feel good about it.
[8:08:25 AM] P******* says: they said the science is limited they said
the evolution theory is in the rubich of history but no relation between
this and the existence of god so many falacies and deceived logics it's
hard to be atheist especially if u live in difficulte situation and very
religeous familly like me but the pleasure of freedom is as wonderful as
paradise
[8:11:06 AM] P******* says: we people are bad and we skip from this fact
by saying we are the chosen race and all creators are in our service we
kill millions of births now to save the human race i don't say it's wrong
but it's bad and sure god bless this killing
[8:11:14 AM] Enkidu the Atheist says: Be careful who you talk to, and
make sure you don't leave tracks on your computer. The old communist's
had a saying: "Work will make you free." I disagree. I say "Thinking
will make you free." I have to sign off now. Best wishes.
--
Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
PGP ID: 0xC4CE8CF0
Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law.
--Thomas Jefferson, February 10, 1814
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Chat with an ex-Muslim atheist in Algeria |
20 Nov 2005 01:11:50 AM |
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On 19 Nov 2005 17:23:35 GMT, Enkidu the Atheist <enkidu@leaddogs.org>
wrote:
This guy popped up on Skype chat. He's an atheist in a North African
country. I've altered the details to obscure his identity.
English is *not* his first language.
[11/18/2005 9:35:09 AM] P******* says: :D Flying Spaghetti that's the
best argument i can debate the very silly religeous in my country *****
thanks for the link brother!
[7:36:04 AM] Enkidu the Atheist says: Hello, and good day.
[7:41:29 AM] P******* says: i've 2 questions if u permit then u can end
the conversation if u want just two simple question?
[7:41:37 AM] Enkidu the Atheist says: OK.
[7:42:59 AM] P******* says: are u atheist?if no so the conversation is
over if yes how do u live in the usa with this tought here in **** if u
say u don't believe in the so called god it's the end of the world for u
and u'll be considered as a servent of devil
[7:44:55 AM] Enkidu the Atheist says: I can't help what other people
think, but I don't believe in the devil either.
[7:51:03 AM] P******* says: in islam my ex-religion the real statment and
reaction toward ones who leave islam(like me) is killing after 3 days if
they don't return , thanks to the 0.03% of democracy practised here
[7:53:38 AM] Enkidu the Atheist says: And that is why we have a
historical separation between the government and religion in my country.
Christians used to kill each other for not being the right kind of
christian, just as Muslims have done and continue doing today. However,
that separation in under attack in my country by those who would force
their religion on all.
[7:58:15 AM] P******* says: islam is a very danger cause some modern
doctrine are making tremendeous efforts to achieve places in goverment
(like what's happening in iran) , they want to achieve there in the name
of democracy and ellections ,but after being there ...!! hhh hoooooppss
the democracy is over the islamic teaching don't allow unbelievers or
even seculars to head the nation so the governors believers have no
choice they should do it since they are believers how bad and dangereous
this islamic dogma!!
[7:59:55 AM] Enkidu the Atheist says: Yes, like Iran, where there are
elections, but unelected religious leaders choose who is on the ballot
and who is not. That is not democracy, not even an election in any
meaningful sense.
[8:01:16 AM] P******* says: before i thought atheists are a kind of
machines with no pitybut after experiencing some of them ... they are the
best people in the world their mind are very open their circle of love
and compasion is very wide if there is limit at all cause the cirle is
limited simply they are very few and the world need them to survive
[8:03:20 AM] Enkidu the Atheist says: Well, we're not perfect, but I
think we see the world and our place in it clearly, and we understand
that *WE* must make the world better for ourselves and our children,
because there is no God to do it for us.
[8:04:12 AM] P******* says: and that's why i like them and that's why i
become atheist 3 months before
[8:05:30 AM] P******* says: my first wake up to reality , u acn't believe
it's a book dedicated agaist atheist after reading no more than 4 or 5
chapters the very little quotes were as strong as the light of sun
[8:06:13 AM] Enkidu the Atheist says: Watch yourself. True believers are
dangerous. They kill and feel good about it.
[8:08:25 AM] P******* says: they said the science is limited they said
the evolution theory is in the rubich of history but no relation between
this and the existence of god so many falacies and deceived logics it's
hard to be atheist especially if u live in difficulte situation and very
religeous familly like me but the pleasure of freedom is as wonderful as
paradise
[8:11:06 AM] P******* says: we people are bad and we skip from this fact
by saying we are the chosen race and all creators are in our service we
kill millions of births now to save the human race i don't say it's wrong
but it's bad and sure god bless this killing
[8:11:14 AM] Enkidu the Atheist says: Be careful who you talk to, and
make sure you don't leave tracks on your computer. The old communist's
had a saying: "Work will make you free." I disagree. I say "Thinking
will make you free." I have to sign off now. Best wishes.
Wow!
I especially like this amazingly observant and intelligent portion:
"P* says: before i thought atheists are a kind of
machines with no pitybut after experiencing some of them ... they are
the
best people in the world their mind are very open their circle of love
and compasion is very wide if there is limit at all cause the cirle is
limited simply they are very few and the world need them to survive"
It should be nominated for something-or-other...
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