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"Sound of Trumpet" |
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27 Nov 2007 05:43:43 PM |
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"Childfree Movement": Liberal Selfishness Incarnate |
http://nfpworks.wordpress.com/2007/10/09/childfree-selfishness-incarnate-or-=
saavy-living/
"Childfree": Selfishness Incarnate or Saavy Living?
October 9, 2007 at 11:22 pm (Cognitive Dissonance)
Have you heard of the "Childfree" movement?
That's right. The cultural fallacy that children are burdens, animals
are environmentally friendly "kids" and no parenting is better than
bad parenting has an official meeting place. Quite literally, their
whole mission is to throw (jettison is probably a better word) the
baby out with the bathwater!
Summary: the Childfree movement is made up of people who can't have
kids or don't want kids (for various reasons), and are tired of a
cultural stigma for being sterile and/ or childless. Hence, they're
not child-less-they're childfree! Weeee!!! Now doesn't a sterilized
population sound fun?
Actually, no. This hurts my heart, soul, mind and body more than I can
really say. It's evil organized and incarnate at worst, and cognitive
dissonance at best. I mean really, do these people hate themselves,
because it seems to me that unless they were dropped from another
planet, they themselves were children once, and oops-thank you to the
"fertility idolaters" that were their parents!
The society members site various and sundry, but radically fatuous,
reasons for their choice to embrace sterility: bad parenting,
overpopulation, environmental and economic concerns related to the
formers, but the most honest reason is plain old devoted narcissism.
I cannot possibly address this narcissistic fundamentalism in one
post, but let me start with one thing: overpopulation. Overpopulation
is so pass=E9. De-population is the new overpopulation. It's the new
crisis. And hello! It's not all that new. Just because Oprah hasn't
done a show on it, Sheryl Crow hasn't sung about it, and the Economist
only just got it in the news doesn't mean it's a passing worry.
Depopulation is at crisis levels in Western Europe and even China-the-
vast is foreseeing the crippling wound of sterility that will effect
their economy disastrously.
This isn't just the rally cry of fertility fanatics, either, but now
is the intellectual clarion cry of the demographer, the doomsday
prophecy of the secular uber-intellectual. Take, for example, Andrew
Pollard. He's the director of EMP Intelligence Service, a UK based
Competitive Intelligence consultancy which focuses on, among other
things, population trends. He gave a talk at the Pro Life Action
League's 2006 Conference, "Contraception is Not the Answer." Let me
tell you, I was sure the overpopulation myth had run it's course, but
listening to his talk compelled me that not only is overpopulation a
fallacy, but depopulation is a crisis of epic proportions, the likes
of which we have never seen.
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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| Title: Re: "Childfree Movement": Liberal Selfishness Incarnate |
27 Nov 2007 05:47:43 PM |
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In article <30354f9a-ca81-4a6b-aa08-edb18a43cf6c@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Sound of Trumpet <sound_of_trumpet@hotpop.com> writes:
http://nfpworks.wordpress.com/2007/10/09/childfree-selfishness-incarnate-or-=
saavy-living/
"Childfree": Selfishness Incarnate or Saavy Living?
October 9, 2007 at 11:22 pm (Cognitive Dissonance)
Have you heard of the "Childfree" movement?
That's right. The cultural fallacy that children are burdens, animals
are environmentally friendly "kids" and no parenting is better than
bad parenting has an official meeting place. Quite literally, their
whole mission is to throw (jettison is probably a better word) the
baby out with the bathwater!
Summary: the Childfree movement is made up of people who can't have
kids or don't want kids (for various reasons), and are tired of a
cultural stigma for being sterile and/ or childless. Hence, they're
not child-less-they're childfree! Weeee!!! Now doesn't a sterilized
population sound fun?
Actually, no. This hurts my heart, soul, mind and body more than I can
really say. It's evil organized and incarnate at worst, and cognitive
dissonance at best. I mean really, do these people hate themselves,
because it seems to me that unless they were dropped from another
planet, they themselves were children once, and oops-thank you to the
"fertility idolaters" that were their parents!
The society members site various and sundry, but radically fatuous,
reasons for their choice to embrace sterility: bad parenting,
overpopulation, environmental and economic concerns related to the
formers, but the most honest reason is plain old devoted narcissism.
Right on! These horrible people should be FORCED to have children.
And so should all those priests, up to and including the Pope.
Who does he think he is anyhow, the selfish narcissistic *****?
-- cary
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| User: "not the moderator" |
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| Title: Re: "Childfree Movement": Liberal Selfishness Incarnate |
27 Nov 2007 06:22:09 PM |
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Cary Kittrell wrote:
In article <30354f9a-ca81-4a6b-aa08-edb18a43cf6c@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Sound of Trumpet <sound_of_trumpet@hotpop.com> writes:
http://nfpworks.wordpress.com/2007/10/09/childfree-selfishness-incarnate-or-=
saavy-living/
"Childfree": Selfishness Incarnate or Saavy Living?
October 9, 2007 at 11:22 pm (Cognitive Dissonance)
Have you heard of the "Childfree" movement?
That's right. The cultural fallacy that children are burdens, animals
are environmentally friendly "kids" and no parenting is better than
bad parenting has an official meeting place. Quite literally, their
whole mission is to throw (jettison is probably a better word) the
baby out with the bathwater!
Summary: the Childfree movement is made up of people who can't have
kids or don't want kids (for various reasons), and are tired of a
cultural stigma for being sterile and/ or childless. Hence, they're
not child-less-they're childfree! Weeee!!! Now doesn't a sterilized
population sound fun?
Actually, no. This hurts my heart, soul, mind and body more than I can
really say. It's evil organized and incarnate at worst, and cognitive
dissonance at best. I mean really, do these people hate themselves,
because it seems to me that unless they were dropped from another
planet, they themselves were children once, and oops-thank you to the
"fertility idolaters" that were their parents!
The society members site various and sundry, but radically fatuous,
reasons for their choice to embrace sterility: bad parenting,
overpopulation, environmental and economic concerns related to the
formers, but the most honest reason is plain old devoted narcissism.
Right on! These horrible people should be FORCED to have children.
And so should all those priests, up to and including the Pope.
Who does he think he is anyhow, the selfish narcissistic *****?
-- cary
It's wonderful that the liberals and queers have elected to remove their
genes
from the human race. It is a time to rejoice, because it will end with
the those fools and tragic hedonists, dying off and allowing room for
those with brains and personal integrity. Achievers and leaders. What a
glorious solution to a world problem! The world will be able to use it's
resources on people who matter, and enrich our lives.
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| User: "Meteorite Debris" |
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| Title: Re: "Childfree Movement": Liberal Selfishness Incarnate |
27 Nov 2007 07:45:13 PM |
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Last time that great scribe not the moderator <phantasmo@que.mx> chipped
away at his/her stone these gems of wisdom for posterity ...
Cary Kittrell wrote:
In article <30354f9a-ca81-4a6b-aa08-edb18a43cf6c@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Sound of Trumpet <sound_of_trumpet@hotpop.com> writes:
http://nfpworks.wordpress.com/2007/10/09/childfree-selfishness-incarnate-or-=
saavy-living/
"Childfree": Selfishness Incarnate or Saavy Living?
October 9, 2007 at 11:22 pm (Cognitive Dissonance)
Have you heard of the "Childfree" movement?
That's right. The cultural fallacy that children are burdens, animals
are environmentally friendly "kids" and no parenting is better than
bad parenting has an official meeting place. Quite literally, their
whole mission is to throw (jettison is probably a better word) the
baby out with the bathwater!
Summary: the Childfree movement is made up of people who can't have
kids or don't want kids (for various reasons), and are tired of a
cultural stigma for being sterile and/ or childless. Hence, they're
not child-less-they're childfree! Weeee!!! Now doesn't a sterilized
population sound fun?
Actually, no. This hurts my heart, soul, mind and body more than I can
really say. It's evil organized and incarnate at worst, and cognitive
dissonance at best. I mean really, do these people hate themselves,
because it seems to me that unless they were dropped from another
planet, they themselves were children once, and oops-thank you to the
"fertility idolaters" that were their parents!
The society members site various and sundry, but radically fatuous,
reasons for their choice to embrace sterility: bad parenting,
overpopulation, environmental and economic concerns related to the
formers, but the most honest reason is plain old devoted narcissism.
Right on! These horrible people should be FORCED to have children.
And so should all those priests, up to and including the Pope.
Who does he think he is anyhow, the selfish narcissistic *****?
-- cary
It's wonderful that the liberals and queers have elected to remove their
genes
from the human race. It is a time to rejoice, because it will end with
the those fools and tragic hedonists, dying off and allowing room for
those with brains and personal integrity. Achievers and leaders. What a
glorious solution to a world problem! The world will be able to use it's
resources on people who matter, and enrich our lives.
It's funny how those who indulge in selfish behaviour like driving SUVs
preach to others about being selfish.
It's funny how those who value freedom to lead their lives as they fit
without interference from other themselves pass judgement on choices
made by others.
In point of fact child-free living is an ultraistic. A baby born will
need to buy a car, eat food, consume resources and energy of a planet
with only a finite quantity of these, build and house and water its
gardens with water. Child-free means not contributing as much to
damaging the environment as those who permit birth control by
mathematics but not by physics and chemistry.
--
Remove both YOUR_SHOES before replying
apatriot #1, atheist #1417,
Chief EAC prophet
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2009
Apatriotism Yahoo Group
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/apatriotism
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make
you commit atrocities." - Voltaire
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| User: "elizabeth" |
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| Title: Re: "Childfree Movement": Liberal Selfishness Incarnate |
28 Nov 2007 01:23:18 PM |
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On Nov 27, 4:22 pm, not the moderator <phanta...@que.mx> wrote:
Cary Kittrell wrote:
In article <30354f9a-ca81-4a6b-aa08-edb18a43c...@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Sound of Trumpet <sound_of_trum...@hotpop.com> writes:
http://nfpworks.wordpress.com/2007/10/09/childfree-selfishness-incarn...
saavy-living/
"Childfree": Selfishness Incarnate or Saavy Living?
October 9, 2007 at 11:22 pm (Cognitive Dissonance)
Have you heard of the "Childfree" movement?
That's right. The cultural fallacy that children are burdens, animals
are environmentally friendly "kids" and no parenting is better than
bad parenting has an official meeting place. Quite literally, their
whole mission is to throw (jettison is probably a better word) the
baby out with the bathwater!
Summary: the Childfree movement is made up of people who can't have
kids or don't want kids (for various reasons), and are tired of a
cultural stigma for being sterile and/ or childless. Hence, they're
not child-less-they're childfree! Weeee!!! Now doesn't a sterilized
population sound fun?
Actually, no. This hurts my heart, soul, mind and body more than I can
really say. It's evil organized and incarnate at worst, and cognitive
dissonance at best. I mean really, do these people hate themselves,
because it seems to me that unless they were dropped from another
planet, they themselves were children once, and oops-thank you to the
"fertility idolaters" that were their parents!
The society members site various and sundry, but radically fatuous,
reasons for their choice to embrace sterility: bad parenting,
overpopulation, environmental and economic concerns related to the
formers, but the most honest reason is plain old devoted narcissism.
Right on! These horrible people should be FORCED to have children.
And so should all those priests, up to and including the Pope.
Who does he think he is anyhow, the selfish narcissistic *****?
-- cary
It's wonderful that the liberals and queers have elected to remove their
genes
from the human race. It is a time to rejoice, because it will end with
the those fools and tragic hedonists, dying off and allowing room for
those with brains and personal integrity. Achievers and leaders. What a
glorious solution to a world problem! The world will be able to use it's
resources on people who matter, and enrich our lives.- Hide quoted text -
This was the future that Kornbluth wrote about in his novella, The
Marching Morons.
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| User: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gwyne=F0_Bennetdottir?=" |
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| Title: Re: "Childfree Movement": Liberal Selfishness Incarnate |
28 Nov 2007 03:07:47 AM |
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On Nov 28, 1:22 am, not the moderator <phanta...@que.mx> wrote:
Cary Kittrell wrote:
In article <30354f9a-ca81-4a6b-aa08-edb18a43c...@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Sound of Trumpet <sound_of_trum...@hotpop.com> writes:
http://nfpworks.wordpress.com/2007/10/09/childfree-selfishness-incarn...
saavy-living/
"Childfree": Selfishness Incarnate or Saavy Living?
October 9, 2007 at 11:22 pm (Cognitive Dissonance)
Have you heard of the "Childfree" movement?
That's right. The cultural fallacy that children are burdens, animals
are environmentally friendly "kids" and no parenting is better than
bad parenting has an official meeting place. Quite literally, their
whole mission is to throw (jettison is probably a better word) the
baby out with the bathwater!
Summary: the Childfree movement is made up of people who can't have
kids or don't want kids (for various reasons), and are tired of a
cultural stigma for being sterile and/ or childless. Hence, they're
not child-less-they're childfree! Weeee!!! Now doesn't a sterilized
population sound fun?
Actually, no. This hurts my heart, soul, mind and body more than I can
really say. It's evil organized and incarnate at worst, and cognitive
dissonance at best. I mean really, do these people hate themselves,
because it seems to me that unless they were dropped from another
planet, they themselves were children once, and oops-thank you to the
"fertility idolaters" that were their parents!
The society members site various and sundry, but radically fatuous,
reasons for their choice to embrace sterility: bad parenting,
overpopulation, environmental and economic concerns related to the
formers, but the most honest reason is plain old devoted narcissism.
Right on! These horrible people should be FORCED to have children.
And so should all those priests, up to and including the Pope.
Who does he think he is anyhow, the selfish narcissistic *****?
-- cary
It's wonderful that the liberals and queers have elected to remove their
genes
from the human race.
However, the right-tard nut-fucks are polluting the pool with theirs.
Watch an influx of rouge souls overtake the earth and ***** up
everything they touch.
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| User: "skyeyes" |
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| Title: Re: "Childfree Movement": Liberal Selfishness Incarnate |
28 Nov 2007 12:00:45 PM |
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On Nov 28, 2:07 am, "Gwyne=F0 Bennetdottir" <bennetwitho...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Nov 28, 1:22 am, not the moderator <phanta...@que.mx> wrote:
Cary Kittrell wrote:
In article <30354f9a-ca81-4a6b-aa08-edb18a43c...@i29g2000prf.googlegro=
ups.com> Sound of Trumpet <sound_of_trum...@hotpop.com> writes:
http://nfpworks.wordpress.com/2007/10/09/childfree-selfishness-incarn.=
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saavy-living/
"Childfree": Selfishness Incarnate or Saavy Living?
October 9, 2007 at 11:22 pm (Cognitive Dissonance)
Have you heard of the "Childfree" movement?
That's right. The cultural fallacy that children are burdens, animals=
are environmentally friendly "kids" and no parenting is better than
bad parenting has an official meeting place. Quite literally, their
whole mission is to throw (jettison is probably a better word) the
baby out with the bathwater!
Summary: the Childfree movement is made up of people who can't have
kids or don't want kids (for various reasons), and are tired of a
cultural stigma for being sterile and/ or childless. Hence, they're
not child-less-they're childfree! Weeee!!! Now doesn't a sterilized
population sound fun?
Actually, no. This hurts my heart, soul, mind and body more than I ca=
n
really say. It's evil organized and incarnate at worst, and cognitive=
dissonance at best. I mean really, do these people hate themselves,
because it seems to me that unless they were dropped from another
planet, they themselves were children once, and oops-thank you to the=
"fertility idolaters" that were their parents!
The society members site various and sundry, but radically fatuous,
reasons for their choice to embrace sterility: bad parenting,
overpopulation, environmental and economic concerns related to the
formers, but the most honest reason is plain old devoted narcissism.
Right on! These horrible people should be FORCED to have children.
And so should all those priests, up to and including the Pope.
Who does he think he is anyhow, the selfish narcissistic *****?
-- cary
It's wonderful that the liberals and queers have elected to remove their=
genes
from the human race.
However, the right-tard nut-fucks are polluting the pool with theirs.
Watch an influx of rouge souls overtake the earth and ***** up
everything they touch.
Nah, don't worry about it. Plenty of today's "liberals" (I use the
word with much trepidation, because many who get that label really are
moderates) grew up in rightard households, like I did. In spite of
parents' best efforts to brainwash their kids, a surprising number of
us grew up and learned to think for ourselves and hold opinions and
political affiliations different from those of our parents. It was
always thus, and always will be. Political affiliation is *not* in
the genes, and neither is one's ethical orientation.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes at dakotacom dot net
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| User: "Nosterill" |
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| Title: Re: "Childfree Movement": Liberal Selfishness Incarnate |
28 Nov 2007 09:05:24 AM |
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On Nov 28, 9:07 am, "Gwyne=F0 Bennetdottir" <bennetwitho...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Nov 28, 1:22 am, not the moderator <phanta...@que.mx> wrote:
Cary Kittrell wrote:
In article <30354f9a-ca81-4a6b-aa08-edb18a43c...@i29g2000prf.googlegro=
ups.com> Sound of Trumpet <sound_of_trum...@hotpop.com> writes:
http://nfpworks.wordpress.com/2007/10/09/childfree-selfishness-incarn.=
...
saavy-living/
"Childfree": Selfishness Incarnate or Saavy Living?
October 9, 2007 at 11:22 pm (Cognitive Dissonance)
Have you heard of the "Childfree" movement?
That's right. The cultural fallacy that children are burdens, animals=
are environmentally friendly "kids" and no parenting is better than
bad parenting has an official meeting place. Quite literally, their
whole mission is to throw (jettison is probably a better word) the
baby out with the bathwater!
Summary: the Childfree movement is made up of people who can't have
kids or don't want kids (for various reasons), and are tired of a
cultural stigma for being sterile and/ or childless. Hence, they're
not child-less-they're childfree! Weeee!!! Now doesn't a sterilized
population sound fun?
Actually, no. This hurts my heart, soul, mind and body more than I ca=
n
really say. It's evil organized and incarnate at worst, and cognitive=
dissonance at best. I mean really, do these people hate themselves,
because it seems to me that unless they were dropped from another
planet, they themselves were children once, and oops-thank you to the=
"fertility idolaters" that were their parents!
The society members site various and sundry, but radically fatuous,
reasons for their choice to embrace sterility: bad parenting,
overpopulation, environmental and economic concerns related to the
formers, but the most honest reason is plain old devoted narcissism.
Right on! These horrible people should be FORCED to have children.
And so should all those priests, up to and including the Pope.
Who does he think he is anyhow, the selfish narcissistic *****?
-- cary
It's wonderful that the liberals and queers have elected to remove their=
genes
from the human race.
However, the right-tard nut-fucks are polluting the pool with theirs.
Watch an influx of rouge souls overtake the earth and ***** up
everything they touch.
I've heard of hennaed feet but never rouged soles :-)
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| User: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gwyne=F0_Bennetdottir?=" |
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28 Nov 2007 09:27:06 AM |
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On Nov 28, 4:05 pm, Nosterill <fladg...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 28, 9:07 am, "Gwyne=F0 Bennetdottir" <bennetwitho...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Nov 28, 1:22 am, not the moderator <phanta...@que.mx> wrote:
Cary Kittrell wrote:
In article <30354f9a-ca81-4a6b-aa08-edb18a43c...@i29g2000prf.googleg=
roups.com> Sound of Trumpet <sound_of_trum...@hotpop.com> writes:
http://nfpworks.wordpress.com/2007/10/09/childfree-selfishness-incar=
n...
saavy-living/
"Childfree": Selfishness Incarnate or Saavy Living?
October 9, 2007 at 11:22 pm (Cognitive Dissonance)
Have you heard of the "Childfree" movement?
That's right. The cultural fallacy that children are burdens, anima=
ls
are environmentally friendly "kids" and no parenting is better than=
bad parenting has an official meeting place. Quite literally, their=
whole mission is to throw (jettison is probably a better word) the
baby out with the bathwater!
Summary: the Childfree movement is made up of people who can't have=
kids or don't want kids (for various reasons), and are tired of a
cultural stigma for being sterile and/ or childless. Hence, they're=
not child-less-they're childfree! Weeee!!! Now doesn't a sterilized=
population sound fun?
Actually, no. This hurts my heart, soul, mind and body more than I =
can
really say. It's evil organized and incarnate at worst, and cogniti=
ve
dissonance at best. I mean really, do these people hate themselves,=
because it seems to me that unless they were dropped from another
planet, they themselves were children once, and oops-thank you to t=
he
"fertility idolaters" that were their parents!
The society members site various and sundry, but radically fatuous,=
reasons for their choice to embrace sterility: bad parenting,
overpopulation, environmental and economic concerns related to the
formers, but the most honest reason is plain old devoted narcissism=
..
Right on! These horrible people should be FORCED to have children.
And so should all those priests, up to and including the Pope.
Who does he think he is anyhow, the selfish narcissistic *****?
-- cary
It's wonderful that the liberals and queers have elected to remove the=
ir
genes
from the human race.
However, the right-tard nut-fucks are polluting the pool with theirs.
Watch an influx of rouge souls overtake the earth and ***** up
everything they touch.
I've heard of hennaed feet but never rouged soles :-)- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
hahahaha
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: "Childfree Movement": Liberal Selfishness Incarnate |
28 Nov 2007 10:09:22 AM |
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On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 01:07:47 -0800, Gwyneð Bennetdottir
wrote:
On Nov 28, 1:22 am, not the moderator <phanta...@que.mx> wrote:
Cary Kittrell wrote:
In article
<30354f9a-ca81-4a6b-aa08-edb18a43c...@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com>
Sound of Trumpet <sound_of_trum...@hotpop.com> writes:
http://nfpworks.wordpress.com/2007/10/09/childfree-selfishness-
incarn...
saavy-living/
"Childfree": Selfishness Incarnate or Saavy Living?
October 9, 2007 at 11:22 pm (Cognitive Dissonance)
Have you heard of the "Childfree" movement?
That's right. The cultural fallacy that children are burdens,
animals are environmentally friendly "kids" and no parenting is
better than bad parenting has an official meeting place. Quite
literally, their whole mission is to throw (jettison is probably a
better word) the baby out with the bathwater!
Summary: the Childfree movement is made up of people who can't have
kids or don't want kids (for various reasons), and are tired of a
cultural stigma for being sterile and/ or childless. Hence, they're
not child-less-they're childfree! Weeee!!! Now doesn't a sterilized
population sound fun?
Actually, no. This hurts my heart, soul, mind and body more than I
can really say. It's evil organized and incarnate at worst, and
cognitive dissonance at best. I mean really, do these people hate
themselves, because it seems to me that unless they were dropped
from another planet, they themselves were children once, and
oops-thank you to the "fertility idolaters" that were their parents!
The society members site various and sundry, but radically fatuous,
reasons for their choice to embrace sterility: bad parenting,
overpopulation, environmental and economic concerns related to the
formers, but the most honest reason is plain old devoted narcissism.
Right on! These horrible people should be FORCED to have children.
And so should all those priests, up to and including the Pope. Who
does he think he is anyhow, the selfish narcissistic *****?
-- cary
It's wonderful that the liberals and queers have elected to remove
their genes
from the human race.
However, the right-tard nut-fucks are polluting the pool with theirs.
Watch an influx of rouge souls overtake the earth and ***** up everything
they touch.
Or, funnier still, watch them produce the next generation of "liberals".
Remember, the 60s was produced by the children of one of the most
conservative generations in US history...
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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“A Sunday school is a prison in which children do
penance for the evil conscience of their parents. ”
- H. L. Mencken
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28 Nov 2007 10:07:20 AM |
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On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:22:09 -0700, not the moderator wrote:
It's wonderful that the liberals and queers have elected to remove their
genes
Aren't you going to be surprised when you find out that political
positions aren't genetic...
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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“I believe in only one thing: liberty; but I do not
believe in liberty enough to want to force it upon anyone.”
- H. L. Mencken
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28 Nov 2007 04:52:21 PM |
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Last time that great scribe Mark K. Bilbo <gmail@com.mkbilbo> chipped
away at his/her stone these gems of wisdom for posterity ...
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:22:09 -0700, not the moderator wrote:
It's wonderful that the liberals and queers have elected to remove their
genes
Aren't you going to be surprised when you find out that political
positions aren't genetic...
To use the example of my family. Most are pro Labor, my mother is a
National Party supporter, my father used to be a Liberal (rightwing un
liberal in Aust) until Howard started to stink, I'm a member of the
Greens.
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Remove both YOUR_SHOES before replying
apatriot #1, atheist #1417,
Chief EAC prophet
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2009
Apatriotism Yahoo Group
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/apatriotism
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make
you commit atrocities." - Voltaire
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On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 09:22:21 +1030, Meteorite Debris wrote:
Last time that great scribe Mark K. Bilbo <gmail@com.mkbilbo> chipped
away at his/her stone these gems of wisdom for posterity ...
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:22:09 -0700, not the moderator wrote:
It's wonderful that the liberals and queers have elected to remove
their genes
Aren't you going to be surprised when you find out that political
positions aren't genetic...
To use the example of my family. Most are pro Labor, my mother is a
National Party supporter, my father used to be a Liberal (rightwing un
liberal in Aust) until Howard started to stink, I'm a member of the
Greens.
I'm from a die hard Republican, "family values," fundie family. So's my
brother, the Edwards supporter who's so hacked at the GOP, he says he's
voting straight party (Democratic) this time. Both of us are advocates of
single payer who bash corporations as one of the most corrupt institution
ever created by the government.
That's two out of three. The third may be a Republican for all I know. He
back stabbed my other brother, screwed over his own mother, got him and
his wife both fired from their jobs, disappeared and the two of us have
disowned him. So he sure acts like a Republican...
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Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"Come to think of it, there are already a million monkeys
on a million typewriters, and the Usenet is NOTHING
like Shakespeare!" - Blair Houghton
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27 Nov 2007 07:25:49 PM |
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not the moderator wrote:
It's wonderful that the liberals and queers have elected to remove
their genes from the human race.
And have been for time immemorial. Yet there are still liberals and queers,
in fact, more now than ever. Why do you think that is?
It is a time to rejoice, because it will end with
the those fools and tragic hedonists, dying off and allowing room for
those with brains and personal integrity. Achievers and leaders.
Um...you mean like all the sheep that followed your fearless leader into
war? Jesus titty fucking christ, if Jefferson were alive today, he would be
the first to be calling for a revolution and Dubya's head under the blade.
What
a glorious solution to a world problem! The world will be able to use
it's resources on people who matter, and enrich our lives.
Don't count on it, sparky. Liberalism has a long and glorious tradition in
the United States, starting with Washington, Jefferson, Madison, Paine and
onward with Lincoln, FDR, etc. This country's greatest moments were and will
be triumphs of liberalism over the bastions of conservatism. This country's
worst nightmare's have been a result of reactionary hawkism from the Mexican
War through Vietnam and Iraq.
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| User: "Bob Brock" |
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27 Nov 2007 05:51:31 PM |
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On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 23:47:43 +0000 (UTC),
(Cary Kittrell) wrote:
In article <30354f9a-ca81-4a6b-aa08-edb18a43cf6c@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Sound of Trumpet <sound_of_trumpet@hotpop.com> writes:
http://nfpworks.wordpress.com/2007/10/09/childfree-selfishness-incarnate-or-=
saavy-living/
"Childfree": Selfishness Incarnate or Saavy Living?
October 9, 2007 at 11:22 pm (Cognitive Dissonance)
Have you heard of the "Childfree" movement?
That's right. The cultural fallacy that children are burdens, animals
are environmentally friendly "kids" and no parenting is better than
bad parenting has an official meeting place. Quite literally, their
whole mission is to throw (jettison is probably a better word) the
baby out with the bathwater!
Summary: the Childfree movement is made up of people who can't have
kids or don't want kids (for various reasons), and are tired of a
cultural stigma for being sterile and/ or childless. Hence, they're
not child-less-they're childfree! Weeee!!! Now doesn't a sterilized
population sound fun?
Actually, no. This hurts my heart, soul, mind and body more than I can
really say. It's evil organized and incarnate at worst, and cognitive
dissonance at best. I mean really, do these people hate themselves,
because it seems to me that unless they were dropped from another
planet, they themselves were children once, and oops-thank you to the
"fertility idolaters" that were their parents!
The society members site various and sundry, but radically fatuous,
reasons for their choice to embrace sterility: bad parenting,
overpopulation, environmental and economic concerns related to the
formers, but the most honest reason is plain old devoted narcissism.
Right on! These horrible people should be FORCED to have children.
And so should all those priests, up to and including the Pope.
Who does he think he is anyhow, the selfish narcissistic *****?
Don't you find it amazing that someone would get upset with another
persons choice about what to do with their own body?
I do.
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27 Nov 2007 06:03:16 PM |
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Bob Brock <bbrock@i-americia.net>
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 23:47:43 +0000 (UTC),
(Cary Kittrell) wrote:
In article <30354f9a-ca81-4a6b-aa08-edb18a43cf6c@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Sound of Trumpet <sound_of_trumpet@hotpop.com> writes:
http://nfpworks.wordpress.com/2007/10/09/childfree-selfishness-incarnate-or-=
saavy-living/
"Childfree": Selfishness Incarnate or Saavy Living?
October 9, 2007 at 11:22 pm (Cognitive Dissonance)
Have you heard of the "Childfree" movement?
That's right. The cultural fallacy that children are burdens, animals
are environmentally friendly "kids" and no parenting is better than
bad parenting has an official meeting place. Quite literally, their
whole mission is to throw (jettison is probably a better word) the
baby out with the bathwater!
Summary: the Childfree movement is made up of people who can't have
kids or don't want kids (for various reasons), and are tired of a
cultural stigma for being sterile and/ or childless. Hence, they're
not child-less-they're childfree! Weeee!!! Now doesn't a sterilized
population sound fun?
Actually, no. This hurts my heart, soul, mind and body more than I can
really say. It's evil organized and incarnate at worst, and cognitive
dissonance at best. I mean really, do these people hate themselves,
because it seems to me that unless they were dropped from another
planet, they themselves were children once, and oops-thank you to the
"fertility idolaters" that were their parents!
The society members site various and sundry, but radically fatuous,
reasons for their choice to embrace sterility: bad parenting,
overpopulation, environmental and economic concerns related to the
formers, but the most honest reason is plain old devoted narcissism.
Right on! These horrible people should be FORCED to have children.
And so should all those priests, up to and including the Pope.
Who does he think he is anyhow, the selfish narcissistic *****?
Don't you find it amazing that someone would get upset with another
persons choice about what to do with their own body?
I do.
I find the same type of argument, but applied to gays, even sillier:
they're just such incredibly selfish hedonists!! If they had any concern
for anyone other themselves, they'd just stop being gay and start
having children!
-- caryu
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| User: "brique" |
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27 Nov 2007 10:27:23 PM |
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Cary Kittrell <> wrote in message
news:fiib84$kdv$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu...
Bob Brock <bbrock@i-americia.net>
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 23:47:43 +0000 (UTC),
(Cary Kittrell) wrote:
In article
<30354f9a-ca81-4a6b-aa08-edb18a43cf6c@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Sound of
Trumpet <sound_of_trumpet@hotpop.com> writes:
http://nfpworks.wordpress.com/2007/10/09/childfree-selfishness-incarnate-or-
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saavy-living/
"Childfree": Selfishness Incarnate or Saavy Living?
October 9, 2007 at 11:22 pm (Cognitive Dissonance)
Have you heard of the "Childfree" movement?
That's right. The cultural fallacy that children are burdens, animals
are environmentally friendly "kids" and no parenting is better than
bad parenting has an official meeting place. Quite literally, their
whole mission is to throw (jettison is probably a better word) the
baby out with the bathwater!
Summary: the Childfree movement is made up of people who can't have
kids or don't want kids (for various reasons), and are tired of a
cultural stigma for being sterile and/ or childless. Hence, they're
not child-less-they're childfree! Weeee!!! Now doesn't a sterilized
population sound fun?
Actually, no. This hurts my heart, soul, mind and body more than I
can
really say. It's evil organized and incarnate at worst, and cognitive
dissonance at best. I mean really, do these people hate themselves,
because it seems to me that unless they were dropped from another
planet, they themselves were children once, and oops-thank you to the
"fertility idolaters" that were their parents!
The society members site various and sundry, but radically fatuous,
reasons for their choice to embrace sterility: bad parenting,
overpopulation, environmental and economic concerns related to the
formers, but the most honest reason is plain old devoted narcissism.
Right on! These horrible people should be FORCED to have children.
And so should all those priests, up to and including the Pope.
Who does he think he is anyhow, the selfish narcissistic *****?
Don't you find it amazing that someone would get upset with another
persons choice about what to do with their own body?
I do.
I find the same type of argument, but applied to gays, even sillier:
they're just such incredibly selfish hedonists!! If they had any concern
for anyone other themselves, they'd just stop being gay and start
having children!
Let's take the logic further, average age of puberty is falling, it's around
11 or so now, so what about all those incredibly selfish hedonistic children
not having children then? And what about those 'childfree' campaigners who
insist they should wait until they are married before getting pregnant? How
many productive child-bearing years get lost that way, huh? Then there are
those who can't have children due to medical reasons being told that they
chouldn't have fertility treatments because its immoral ......
sheeeeeeesh.........
-- caryu
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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28 Nov 2007 10:05:52 AM |
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On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 04:27:23 +0000, brique wrote:
Cary Kittrell < > wrote in message
news:fiib84$kdv$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu...
Bob Brock <bbrock@i-americia.net>
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 23:47:43 +0000 (UTC),
(Cary Kittrell) wrote:
In article
<30354f9a-ca81-4a6b-aa08-edb18a43cf6c@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com>
Sound of Trumpet <sound_of_trumpet@hotpop.com> writes:
http://nfpworks.wordpress.com/2007/10/09/childfree-selfishness-
incarnate-or-
=
saavy-living/
"Childfree": Selfishness Incarnate or Saavy Living?
October 9, 2007 at 11:22 pm (Cognitive Dissonance)
Have you heard of the "Childfree" movement?
That's right. The cultural fallacy that children are burdens,
animals are environmentally friendly "kids" and no parenting is
better than bad parenting has an official meeting place. Quite
literally, their whole mission is to throw (jettison is probably a
better word) the baby out with the bathwater!
Summary: the Childfree movement is made up of people who can't
have kids or don't want kids (for various reasons), and are tired
of a cultural stigma for being sterile and/ or childless. Hence,
they're not child-less-they're childfree! Weeee!!! Now doesn't a
sterilized population sound fun?
Actually, no. This hurts my heart, soul, mind and body more than I
can
really say. It's evil organized and incarnate at worst, and
cognitive dissonance at best. I mean really, do these people hate
themselves, because it seems to me that unless they were dropped
from another planet, they themselves were children once, and
oops-thank you to the "fertility idolaters" that were their
parents!
The society members site various and sundry, but radically
fatuous, reasons for their choice to embrace sterility: bad
parenting, overpopulation, environmental and economic concerns
related to the formers, but the most honest reason is plain old
devoted narcissism.
Right on! These horrible people should be FORCED to have children.
And so should all those priests, up to and including the Pope. Who
does he think he is anyhow, the selfish narcissistic *****?
Don't you find it amazing that someone would get upset with another
persons choice about what to do with their own body?
I do.
I find the same type of argument, but applied to gays, even sillier:
they're just such incredibly selfish hedonists!! If they had any
concern for anyone other themselves, they'd just stop being gay and
start having children!
Let's take the logic further, average age of puberty is falling, it's
around 11 or so now, so what about all those incredibly selfish
hedonistic children not having children then? And what about those
'childfree' campaigners who insist they should wait until they are
married before getting pregnant? How many productive child-bearing years
get lost that way, huh? Then there are those who can't have children due
to medical reasons being told that they chouldn't have fertility
treatments because its immoral ...... sheeeeeeesh.........
Really! Let's punish them for each and every unused egg!!!
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"Come to think of it, there are already a million monkeys
on a million typewriters, and the Usenet is NOTHING
like Shakespeare!" - Blair Houghton
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| User: "Bob Brock" |
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27 Nov 2007 06:21:19 PM |
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On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 00:03:16 +0000 (UTC),
(Cary Kittrell) wrote:
Bob Brock <bbrock@i-americia.net>
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 23:47:43 +0000 (UTC),
(Cary Kittrell) wrote:
In article <30354f9a-ca81-4a6b-aa08-edb18a43cf6c@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Sound of Trumpet <sound_of_trumpet@hotpop.com> writes:
http://nfpworks.wordpress.com/2007/10/09/childfree-selfishness-incarnate-or-=
saavy-living/
"Childfree": Selfishness Incarnate or Saavy Living?
October 9, 2007 at 11:22 pm (Cognitive Dissonance)
Have you heard of the "Childfree" movement?
That's right. The cultural fallacy that children are burdens, animals
are environmentally friendly "kids" and no parenting is better than
bad parenting has an official meeting place. Quite literally, their
whole mission is to throw (jettison is probably a better word) the
baby out with the bathwater!
Summary: the Childfree movement is made up of people who can't have
kids or don't want kids (for various reasons), and are tired of a
cultural stigma for being sterile and/ or childless. Hence, they're
not child-less-they're childfree! Weeee!!! Now doesn't a sterilized
population sound fun?
Actually, no. This hurts my heart, soul, mind and body more than I can
really say. It's evil organized and incarnate at worst, and cognitive
dissonance at best. I mean really, do these people hate themselves,
because it seems to me that unless they were dropped from another
planet, they themselves were children once, and oops-thank you to the
"fertility idolaters" that were their parents!
The society members site various and sundry, but radically fatuous,
reasons for their choice to embrace sterility: bad parenting,
overpopulation, environmental and economic concerns related to the
formers, but the most honest reason is plain old devoted narcissism.
Right on! These horrible people should be FORCED to have children.
And so should all those priests, up to and including the Pope.
Who does he think he is anyhow, the selfish narcissistic *****?
Don't you find it amazing that someone would get upset with another
persons choice about what to do with their own body?
I do.
I find the same type of argument, but applied to gays, even sillier:
they're just such incredibly selfish hedonists!! If they had any concern
for anyone other themselves, they'd just stop being gay and start
having children!
I believe that adults should be free to do anything that they want to
do as long as it doesn't infringe on someone else's freedoms. Yes, I
know that such a belief is old fashioned and dated, but then so am I.
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27 Nov 2007 07:25:38 PM |
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In article <ptcpk3lhlghvggilofkg45i9hhuoir8s42@4ax.com> Bob Brock <bbrock@i-americia.net> writes:
On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 00:03:16 +0000 (UTC),
(Cary Kittrell) wrote:
Bob Brock <bbrock@i-americia.net>
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 23:47:43 +0000 (UTC),
(Cary Kittrell) wrote:
In article <30354f9a-ca81-4a6b-aa08-edb18a43cf6c@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Sound of Trumpet <sound_of_trumpet@hotpop.com> writes:
http://nfpworks.wordpress.com/2007/10/09/childfree-selfishness-incarnate-or-=
saavy-living/
"Childfree": Selfishness Incarnate or Saavy Living?
October 9, 2007 at 11:22 pm (Cognitive Dissonance)
Have you heard of the "Childfree" movement?
That's right. The cultural fallacy that children are burdens, animals
are environmentally friendly "kids" and no parenting is better than
bad parenting has an official meeting place. Quite literally, their
whole mission is to throw (jettison is probably a better word) the
baby out with the bathwater!
Summary: the Childfree movement is made up of people who can't have
kids or don't want kids (for various reasons), and are tired of a
cultural stigma for being sterile and/ or childless. Hence, they're
not child-less-they're childfree! Weeee!!! Now doesn't a sterilized
population sound fun?
Actually, no. This hurts my heart, soul, mind and body more than I can
really say. It's evil organized and incarnate at worst, and cognitive
dissonance at best. I mean really, do these people hate themselves,
because it seems to me that unless they were dropped from another
planet, they themselves were children once, and oops-thank you to the
"fertility idolaters" that were their parents!
The society members site various and sundry, but radically fatuous,
reasons for their choice to embrace sterility: bad parenting,
overpopulation, environmental and economic concerns related to the
formers, but the most honest reason is plain old devoted narcissism.
Right on! These horrible people should be FORCED to have children.
And so should all those priests, up to and including the Pope.
Who does he think he is anyhow, the selfish narcissistic *****?
Don't you find it amazing that someone would get upset with another
persons choice about what to do with their own body?
I do.
I find the same type of argument, but applied to gays, even sillier:
they're just such incredibly selfish hedonists!! If they had any concern
for anyone other themselves, they'd just stop being gay and start
having children!
I believe that adults should be free to do anything that they want to
do as long as it doesn't infringe on someone else's freedoms. Yes, I
know that such a belief is old fashioned and dated, but then so am I.
Old-fashioned, dated, and quite radical.
-- cary
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28 Nov 2007 07:49:59 AM |
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On Nov 27, 7:21 pm, Bob Brock <bbr...@i-americia.net> wrote:
On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 00:03:16 +0000 (UTC),
(Cary Kittrell) wrote:
Bob Brock <bbr...@i-americia.net>
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 23:47:43 +0000 (UTC),
(Cary Kittrell) wrote:
In article <30354f9a-ca81-4a6b-aa08-edb18a43c...@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Sound of Trumpet <sound_of_trum...@hotpop.com> writes:
http://nfpworks.wordpress.com/2007/10/09/childfree-selfishness-incarn...
saavy-living/
"Childfree": Selfishness Incarnate or Saavy Living?
October 9, 2007 at 11:22 pm (Cognitive Dissonance)
Have you heard of the "Childfree" movement?
That's right. The cultural fallacy that children are burdens, animals
are environmentally friendly "kids" and no parenting is better than
bad parenting has an official meeting place. Quite literally, their
whole mission is to throw (jettison is probably a better word) the
baby out with the bathwater!
Summary: the Childfree movement is made up of people who can't have
kids or don't want kids (for various reasons), and are tired of a
cultural stigma for being sterile and/ or childless. Hence, they're
not child-less-they're childfree! Weeee!!! Now doesn't a sterilized
population sound fun?
Actually, no. This hurts my heart, soul, mind and body more than I can
really say. It's evil organized and incarnate at worst, and cognitive
dissonance at best. I mean really, do these people hate themselves,
because it seems to me that unless they were dropped from another
planet, they themselves were children once, and oops-thank you to the
"fertility idolaters" that were their parents!
The society members site various and sundry, but radically fatuous,
reasons for their choice to embrace sterility: bad parenting,
overpopulation, environmental and economic concerns related to the
formers, but the most honest reason is plain old devoted narcissism.
Right on! These horrible people should be FORCED to have children.
And so should all those priests, up to and including the Pope.
Who does he think he is anyhow, the selfish narcissistic *****?
Don't you find it amazing that someone would get upset with another
persons choice about what to do with their own body?
I do.
I find the same type of argument, but applied to gays, even sillier:
they're just such incredibly selfish hedonists!! If they had any concern
for anyone other themselves, they'd just stop being gay and start
having children!
I believe that adults should be free to do anything that they want to
do as long as it doesn't infringe on someone else's freedoms. Yes, I
know that such a belief is old fashioned and dated, but then so am I.- Hide quoted text -
I still am unimpressed with people who argue against that. Like the
writer of the article. Really, Selfish? GUess what people do selfish
things all the time, and as long as they don't ask me to support it
and they don't harm another...I don't care.
By being childfree, I am neither asking for subsidy, nor am I hurting
someone....why should the writer care...other than the fact he is an
***** who thinks his script should be followed by everybody, and
anyone who doesn't is evil.
Hatter
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28 Nov 2007 01:39:44 PM |
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In article
<275c2e08-dd29-4c4c-bcf0-8f5f8c2ecf34@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
Hatter <Hatter23@gmail.com> wrote:
By being childfree, I am neither asking for subsidy, nor am I hurting
someone....why should the writer care...
Exactly.
Because such writers have experienced having to give up their time and
resources and maybe a lot of their lives to raise kids, they somehow
think they are "selfless," and those of us who choose otherwise must be
"selfish." They haven't figured out that having kids is a choice, not a
requirement, and have still absorbed the old cant that having children
is a societal and/or religious-given "good."
Ilene B
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28 Nov 2007 03:27:04 PM |
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This response is great:
Lori said,
November 7, 2007 at 9:35 pm
"Jesus was a bad and selfish man for not having any children. Luckily
he didn't have any kind of legacy to pass on and is now completely
forgotten thanks to this omission on his part."
In the same vein: People should take that list of talented CF
celebrities (it's online somewhere), display it more often, and point
out that most of those people's output would have been severely
compromised had they had to raise children.
Lenona.
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28 Nov 2007 05:47:43 PM |
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Oh, and here's the link:
http://nfpworks.wordpress.com/2007/10/09/childfree-selfishness-incarnate-or-saavy-living/
Lenona.
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| User: "Pete" |
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28 Nov 2007 06:28:27 PM |
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In article
<ebd652b2-176d-46d0-ba8a-04af786ad998@b40g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
wrote:
Oh, and here's the link:
http://nfpworks.wordpress.com/2007/10/09/childfree-selfishness-incarnate-or-sa
avy-living/
That breeder should be killed. Chopped to pieces with a chain saw...Pete
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Work hard, rock hard, sleep hard, eat hard, grow big,
wear glasses if you need 'em - Webb Wilder
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28 Nov 2007 06:32:06 AM |
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On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 19:21:19 -0500, Bob Brock <bbrock@i-americia.net>
wrote:
On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 00:03:16 +0000 (UTC),
(Cary Kittrell) wrote:
Bob Brock <bbrock@i-americia.net>
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 23:47:43 +0000 (UTC),
(Cary Kittrell) wrote:
In article <30354f9a-ca81-4a6b-aa08-edb18a43cf6c@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Sound of Trumpet <sound_of_trumpet@hotpop.com> writes:
http://nfpworks.wordpress.com/2007/10/09/childfree-selfishness-incarnate-or-=
saavy-living/
"Childfree": Selfishness Incarnate or Saavy Living?
October 9, 2007 at 11:22 pm (Cognitive Dissonance)
Have you heard of the "Childfree" movement?
That's right. The cultural fallacy that children are burdens, animals
are environmentally friendly "kids" and no parenting is better than
bad parenting has an official meeting place. Quite literally, their
whole mission is to throw (jettison is probably a better word) the
baby out with the bathwater!
Summary: the Childfree movement is made up of people who can't have
kids or don't want kids (for various reasons), and are tired of a
cultural stigma for being sterile and/ or childless. Hence, they're
not child-less-they're childfree! Weeee!!! Now doesn't a sterilized
population sound fun?
Actually, no. This hurts my heart, soul, mind and body more than I can
really say. It's evil organized and incarnate at worst, and cognitive
dissonance at best. I mean really, do these people hate themselves,
because it seems to me that unless they were dropped from another
planet, they themselves were children once, and oops-thank you to the
"fertility idolaters" that were their parents!
The society members site various and sundry, but radically fatuous,
reasons for their choice to embrace sterility: bad parenting,
overpopulation, environmental and economic concerns related to the
formers, but the most honest reason is plain old devoted narcissism.
Right on! These horrible people should be FORCED to have children.
And so should all those priests, up to and including the Pope.
Who does he think he is anyhow, the selfish narcissistic *****?
Don't you find it amazing that someone would get upset with another
persons choice about what to do with their own body?
I do.
I find the same type of argument, but applied to gays, even sillier:
they're just such incredibly selfish hedonists!! If they had any concern
for anyone other themselves, they'd just stop being gay and start
having children!
I believe that adults should be free to do anything that they want to
do as long as it doesn't infringe on someone else's freedoms. Yes, I
know that such a belief is old fashioned and dated, but then so am I.
There's a lot of us about.
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| Title: Re: "Childfree Movement": Liberal Selfishness Incarnate |
28 Nov 2007 03:38:34 PM |
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On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 19:21:19 -0500, Bob Brock <bbrock@i-americia.net>
wrote:
On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 00:03:16 +0000 (UTC),
(Cary Kittrell) wrote:
Bob Brock <bbrock@i-americia.net>
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 23:47:43 +0000 (UTC),
snip
I find the same type of argument, but applied to gays, even sillier:
they're just such incredibly selfish hedonists!! If they had any concern
for anyone other themselves, they'd just stop being gay and start
having children!
pension grows.>
I believe that adults should be free to do anything that they want to
do as long as it doesn't infringe on someone else's freedoms. Yes, I
know that such a belief is old fashioned and dated, but then so am I.
But it infringes on Stupid old Trout's freedom to do ***** all, while
it's pension fund grows.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: "Childfree Movement": Liberal Selfishness Incarnate |
27 Nov 2007 06:49:37 PM |
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On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 00:03:16 +0000, Cary Kittrell wrote:
Bob Brock <bbrock@i-americia.net>
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 23:47:43 +0000 (UTC),
(Cary Kittrell) wrote:
In article
<30354f9a-ca81-4a6b-aa08-edb18a43cf6c@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com>
Sound of Trumpet <sound_of_trumpet@hotpop.com> writes:
http://nfpworks.wordpress.com/2007/10/09/childfree-selfishness-
incarnate-or-=
saavy-living/
"Childfree": Selfishness Incarnate or Saavy Living?
October 9, 2007 at 11:22 pm (Cognitive Dissonance)
Have you heard of the "Childfree" movement?
That's right. The cultural fallacy that children are burdens,
animals are environmentally friendly "kids" and no parenting is
better than bad parenting has an official meeting place. Quite
literally, their whole mission is to throw (jettison is probably a
better word) the baby out with the bathwater!
Summary: the Childfree movement is made up of people who can't have
kids or don't want kids (for various reasons), and are tired of a
cultural stigma for being sterile and/ or childless. Hence, they're
not child-less-they're childfree! Weeee!!! Now doesn't a sterilized
population sound fun?
Actually, no. This hurts my heart, soul, mind and body more than I
can really say. It's evil organized and incarnate at worst, and
cognitive dissonance at best. I mean really, do these people hate
themselves, because it seems to me that unless they were dropped
from another planet, they themselves were children once, and
oops-thank you to the "fertility idolaters" that were their parents!
The society members site various and sundry, but radically fatuous,
reasons for their choice to embrace sterility: bad parenting,
overpopulation, environmental and economic concerns related to the
formers, but the most honest reason is plain old devoted narcissism.
Right on! These horrible people should be FORCED to have children.
And so should all those priests, up to and including the Pope. Who
does he think he is anyhow, the selfish narcissistic *****?
Don't you find it amazing that someone would get upset with another
persons choice about what to do with their own body?
I do.
I find the same type of argument, but applied to gays, even sillier:
they're just such incredibly selfish hedonists!! If they had any
concern for anyone other themselves, they'd just stop being gay and
start having children!
Which is really funny as the ultimate selfishness is perpetuating your
genes...
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"You believe in a book that has talking animals, wizards,
witches, demons, sticks turning into snakes, food falling
from the sky, people walking on water, and all sorts of magical,
absurd and primitive stories, and you say that *we* are the
ones that need help?" - Jon Stoll
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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| Title: Re: "Childfree Movement": Liberal Selfishness Incarnate |
27 Nov 2007 07:27:09 PM |
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In article <1rKdnX9GCZi8JtHanZ2dnUVZ_t3inZ2d@giganews.com> "Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> writes:
On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 00:03:16 +0000, Cary Kittrell wrote:
Bob Brock <bbrock@i-americia.net>
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 23:47:43 +0000 (UTC),
(Cary Kittrell) wrote:
In article
<30354f9a-ca81-4a6b-aa08-edb18a43cf6c@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com>
Sound of Trumpet <sound_of_trumpet@hotpop.com> writes:
http://nfpworks.wordpress.com/2007/10/09/childfree-selfishness-
incarnate-or-=
saavy-living/
"Childfree": Selfishness Incarnate or Saavy Living?
October 9, 2007 at 11:22 pm (Cognitive Dissonance)
Have you heard of the "Childfree" movement?
That's right. The cultural fallacy that children are burdens,
animals are environmentally friendly "kids" and no parenting is
better than bad parenting has an official meeting place. Quite
literally, their whole mission is to throw (jettison is probably a
better word) the baby out with the bathwater!
Summary: the Childfree movement is made up of people who can't have
kids or don't want kids (for various reasons), and are tired of a
cultural stigma for being sterile and/ or childless. Hence, they're
not child-less-they're childfree! Weeee!!! Now doesn't a sterilized
population sound fun?
Actually, no. This hurts my heart, soul, mind and body more than I
can really say. It's evil organized and incarnate at worst, and
cognitive dissonance at best. I mean really, do these people hate
themselves, because it seems to me that unless they were dropped
from another planet, they themselves were children once, and
oops-thank you to the "fertility idolaters" that were their parents!
The society members site various and sundry, but radically fatuous,
reasons for their choice to embrace sterility: bad parenting,
overpopulation, environmental and economic concerns related to the
formers, but the most honest reason is plain old devoted narcissism.
Right on! These horrible people should be FORCED to have children.
And so should all those priests, up to and including the Pope. Who
does he think he is anyhow, the selfish narcissistic *****?
Don't you find it amazing that someone would get upset with another
persons choice about what to do with their own body?
I do.
I find the same type of argument, but applied to gays, even sillier:
they're just such incredibly selfish hedonists!! If they had any
concern for anyone other themselves, they'd just stop being gay and
start having children!
Which is really funny as the ultimate selfishness is perpetuating your
genes...
Your selfish genes, that would be.
(hey! is their a country song in there somewhere?)
-- cary
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| User: "Dubh Ghall" |
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| Title: Re: "Childfree Movement": Liberal Selfishness Incarnate |
28 Nov 2007 06:43:13 AM |
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On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 01:27:09 +0000 (UTC),
(Cary Kittrell) wrote:
In article <1rKdnX9GCZi8JtHanZ2dnUVZ_t3inZ2d@giganews.com> "Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> writes:
On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 00:03:16 +0000, Cary Kittrell wrote:
Bob Brock <bbrock@i-americia.net>
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 23:47:43 +0000 (UTC),
(Cary Kittrell) wrote:
In article
<30354f9a-ca81-4a6b-aa08-edb18a43cf6c@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com>
Sound of Trumpet <sound_of_trumpet@hotpop.com> writes:
http://nfpworks.wordpress.com/2007/10/09/childfree-selfishness-
incarnate-or-=
saavy-living/
"Childfree": Selfishness Incarnate or Saavy Living?
October 9, 2007 at 11:22 pm (Cognitive Dissonance)
Have you heard of the "Childfree" movement?
That's right. The cultural fallacy that children are burdens,
animals are environmentally friendly "kids" and no parenting is
better than bad parenting has an official meeting place. Quite
literally, their whole mission is to throw (jettison is probably a
better word) the baby out with the bathwater!
Summary: the Childfree movement is made up of people who can't have
kids or don't want kids (for various reasons), and are tired of a
cultural stigma for being sterile and/ or childless. Hence, they're
not child-less-they're childfree! Weeee!!! Now doesn't a sterilized
population sound fun?
Actually, no. This hurts my heart, soul, mind and body more than I
can really say. It's evil organized and incarnate at worst, and
cognitive dissonance at best. I mean really, do these people hate
themselves, because it seems to me that unless they were dropped
from another planet, they themselves were children once, and
oops-thank you to the "fertility idolaters" that were their parents!
The society members site various and sundry, but radically fatuous,
reasons for their choice to embrace sterility: bad parenting,
overpopulation, environmental and economic concerns related to the
formers, but the most honest reason is plain old devoted narcissism.
Right on! These horrible people should be FORCED to have children.
And so should all those priests, up to and including the Pope. Who
does he think he is anyhow, the selfish narcissistic *****?
Don't you find it amazing that someone would get upset with another
persons choice about what to do with their own body?
I do.
I find the same type of argument, but applied to gays, even sillier:
they're just such incredibly selfish hedonists!! If they had any
concern for anyone other themselves, they'd just stop being gay and
start having children!
Which is really funny as the ultimate selfishness is perpetuating your
genes...
Your selfish genes, that would be.
(hey! is their a country song in there somewhere?)
Selfish genes, Oh selfish genes, stop breeding.
Nah.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: "Childfree Movement": Liberal Selfishness Incarnate |
28 Nov 2007 08:36:46 AM |
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On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 01:27:09 +0000, Cary Kittrell wrote:
In article <1rKdnX9GCZi8JtHanZ2dnUVZ_t3inZ2d@giganews.com> "Mark K.
Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> writes:
On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 00:03:16 +0000, Cary Kittrell wrote:
Bob Brock <bbrock@i-americia.net>
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