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20 Jul 2005 04:08:13 AM |
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Chinese Buildup Seen as Threat to Region |
Chinese Buildup Seen as Threat to Region
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/19/AR2005071900946_pf.html
By Ann Scott Tyson
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, July 20, 2005; A16
China's military buildup is broadening the reach of its forces in Asia
and poses a long-term threat not only to Taiwan but to the U.S.
military in the Pacific and to regional powers such as India and Japan,
according to an assessment released yesterday by the Pentagon.
The Beijing government is also improving and expanding its nuclear
arsenal, fielding more advanced nuclear missiles capable of striking
India, Russia and "virtually all of the United States," said the annual
China military power report, based on U.S. intelligence and mandated by
Congress. The report, however, said China's ability to project its
conventional military power remains limited.
China
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China / Meiguo
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Is the wakening giant a monster?
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| User: "laoduwu" |
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| Title: Re: Chinese Buildup Seen as Threat to Region |
20 Jul 2005 05:05:27 AM |
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I think, it is normal. Like USA after World war II, USA goes to more
powerful.
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| User: "John" |
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| Title: Re: Chinese Buildup Seen as Threat to Region |
21 Jul 2005 11:37:14 AM |
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"laoduwu" <zhansu@uni-mainz.de> wrote in message
news:dbl7l9$b62$1@news1.zdv.uni-mainz.de...
I think, it is normal. Like USA after World war II, USA goes to more
powerful.
No, it is a sales pitch for used US military hardware to Taiwan, Japan and
Korea.
US wants to get inflated price for its used military hardware before they
become
wasted metals.
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| User: "maff" |
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| Title: Re: Chinese Buildup Seen as Threat to Region |
21 Jul 2005 04:30:25 AM |
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maff wrote:
Chinese Buildup Seen as Threat to Region
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/19/AR2005071900946_pf.html
By Ann Scott Tyson
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, July 20, 2005; A16
China's military buildup is broadening the reach of its forces in Asia
and poses a long-term threat not only to Taiwan but to the U.S.
military in the Pacific and to regional powers such as India and Japan,
according to an assessment released yesterday by the Pentagon.
The Beijing government is also improving and expanding its nuclear
arsenal, fielding more advanced nuclear missiles capable of striking
India, Russia and "virtually all of the United States," said the annual
China military power report, based on U.S. intelligence and mandated by
Congress. The report, however, said China's ability to project its
conventional military power remains limited.
Calling In Envoy, Beijing Assails Pentagon Report
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/21/international/asia/21china.html
By CHRIS BUCKLEY
China's Foreign Ministry called in a senior American diplomat in
Beijing on Wednesday to denounce a Pentagon report on China's military
strength.
China
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/d3294ecc38a6a57d
China / Meiguo
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/772524fe8bf033d4
Is the wakening giant a monster?
http://tinyurl.com/iws6
A Blueprint for the Future
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/59c28cd6dfe6f60f
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| User: "Komin" |
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| Title: Re: Chinese Buildup Seen as Threat to Region |
21 Jul 2005 07:12:32 AM |
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an American pre-emptive strike against China ?
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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| Title: Re: Chinese Buildup Seen as Threat to Region |
21 Jul 2005 07:52:52 AM |
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On 21 Jul 2005 05:12:32 -0700 in alt.atheism, Komin ("Komin"
<veakrin@gmail.com>) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism
an American pre-emptive strike against China ?
Not unless the USA has a death wish. Or at least wishes to remain the
USA we all know an love...
Ah.
Oh, all right then....
But more seriously, well, somewhat so, although the USA could change
most of China into green and black glass, if it felt like it, it seems
to me that this couldn't be done a no cost.
China is supposed to have between 20 and 50 long range not terribly
accurate nukes - which means you aim a big targets, like cities. And
presumably the Chinese strategists have thought through the US first
strike capability - stealth bombers, et al and would maximise their
(at least what we read in the press) short range missile expertise.
To quote General "Buck" Turgidson:
"Mr. President, I'm not saying we wouldn't get our hair mussed. But I
do say no more than ten to twenty million killed, tops. Uh, depending
on the breaks".
Plus, I'd think they'd take out at least half of the US carrier
groups.
And if it did go that far, and the Chinese managed to hit the top 5
USA cities, the USA would instantly becomes relegated to the status of
a third world power.
And there's a lot of people in the world who may think that's an
interesting prospect, so generally speaking I don't think that
pressing a war with China is a terribly good idea.
--
"Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You."
- Attrib: Pauline Reage.
#442. Want food NOW? Then try http://www.rtios.com/
- Yep, currently under test... Your opinion welcome.
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| User: "maff" |
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| Title: Re: Chinese Buildup Seen as Threat to Region |
21 Jul 2005 03:27:01 PM |
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Therion Ware wrote:
On 21 Jul 2005 05:12:32 -0700 in alt.atheism, Komin ("Komin"
<veakrin@gmail.com>) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism
an American pre-emptive strike against China ?
Not unless the USA has a death wish. Or at least wishes to remain the
USA we all know an love...
Ah.
Oh, all right then....
But more seriously, well, somewhat so, although the USA could change
most of China into green and black glass, if it felt like it, it seems
to me that this couldn't be done a no cost.
China is supposed to have between 20 and 50 long range not terribly
accurate nukes - which means you aim a big targets, like cities. And
presumably the Chinese strategists have thought through the US first
strike capability - stealth bombers, et al and would maximise their
(at least what we read in the press) short range missile expertise.
To quote General "Buck" Turgidson:
"Mr. President, I'm not saying we wouldn't get our hair mussed. But I
do say no more than ten to twenty million killed, tops. Uh, depending
on the breaks".
Plus, I'd think they'd take out at least half of the US carrier
groups.
And if it did go that far, and the Chinese managed to hit the top 5
USA cities, the USA would instantly becomes relegated to the status of
a third world power.
And there's a lot of people in the world who may think that's an
interesting prospect, so generally speaking I don't think that
pressing a war with China is a terribly good idea.
"The U.S. has broken the second rule of war. That is, don't go fighting
with your land army on the mainland of Asia. Rule One is don't march on
Moscow. I developed these two rules myself."
(spoken of the US approach to the Vietnam War) Quoted in Chalfont's
Montgomery of Alamein.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Montgomery
--
"Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You."
- Attrib: Pauline Reage.
#442. Want food NOW? Then try http://www.rtios.com/
- Yep, currently under test... Your opinion welcome.
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| User: "maff" |
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| Title: Re: Chinese Buildup Seen as Threat to Region |
21 Jul 2005 03:44:55 PM |
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maff wrote:
Therion Ware wrote:
On 21 Jul 2005 05:12:32 -0700 in alt.atheism, Komin ("Komin"
<veakrin@gmail.com>) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism
an American pre-emptive strike against China ?
Not unless the USA has a death wish. Or at least wishes to remain the
USA we all know an love...
Ah.
Oh, all right then....
But more seriously, well, somewhat so, although the USA could change
most of China into green and black glass, if it felt like it, it seems
to me that this couldn't be done a no cost.
China is supposed to have between 20 and 50 long range not terribly
accurate nukes - which means you aim a big targets, like cities. And
presumably the Chinese strategists have thought through the US first
strike capability - stealth bombers, et al and would maximise their
(at least what we read in the press) short range missile expertise.
To quote General "Buck" Turgidson:
"Mr. President, I'm not saying we wouldn't get our hair mussed. But I
do say no more than ten to twenty million killed, tops. Uh, depending
on the breaks".
Plus, I'd think they'd take out at least half of the US carrier
groups.
And if it did go that far, and the Chinese managed to hit the top 5
USA cities, the USA would instantly becomes relegated to the status of
a third world power.
And there's a lot of people in the world who may think that's an
interesting prospect, so generally speaking I don't think that
pressing a war with China is a terribly good idea.
"The U.S. has broken the second rule of war. That is, don't go fighting
with your land army on the mainland of Asia. Rule One is don't march on
Moscow. I developed these two rules myself."
(spoken of the US approach to the Vietnam War) Quoted in Chalfont's
Montgomery of Alamein.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Montgomery
TALK WITH MARSHAL MONTGOMERY ON THE CURRENT INTERNATIONAL SITUATION
(May 27, 1960)
http://english.pladaily.com.cn/special/mao/txt/w30.htm
TALKS WITH MARSHAL MONTGOMERY ON THE THREE PRINCIPLES AND THE QUESTION
OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS*
http://english.pladaily.com.cn/special/mao/txt/m8.htm
(September 1961)
The Three Principles Are Well Put
(September 23, 196I)
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"Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You."
- Attrib: Pauline Reage.
#442. Want food NOW? Then try http://www.rtios.com/
- Yep, currently under test... Your opinion welcome.
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