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"The Last Liberal / ShyDavid / Desertphile" |
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17 Jan 2005 07:06:17 PM |
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Chiropractic as useless as Scientology |
http://religionnewsblog.com/9938/Doctors--Others-Deride-Chiropractic-School
Doctors, Others Deride Chiropractic School
Associated Press, via Sun-Sentinelcom, Jan. 16, 2005
Brent Kallestad, Associated Press Writer
www.sun-sentinel.com
TALLAHASSEE, Florida -- Some Florida State University professors
have been circulating a parody map showing the campus of the
future, with a new Bigfoot Institute, a School of Astrology and a
Crop Circle Simulation Laboratory.
It's a not-so-subtle jab in a growing debate over a proposal to
build a chiropractic college on this campus -- the first such
school at a public university in the United States.
More than 500 professors, including the university's two Nobel
laureates, have signed a petition opposing the school and a
handful have even threatened to resign rather than teach alongside
what they consider a "pseudoscience."
The dispute -- the biggest academic furor in recent memory at
Florida State -- is heading to a showdown decision later this
month, pitting FSU faculty and doctors against chiropractors and
powerful lawmakers who pushed the $9 million (euro7 million)
proposal through the Legislature.
T.K. Wetherell, the normally blunt president of Florida State, has
been unusually reticent on the chiropractic flap, deferring to his
provost.
"There's a small number of faculty who would like it to happen,
there is another group of faculty who would like it to die as
painful a death as possible, and then there's another group that
has a lot of concerns that they would like answered before
anything else happens," provost Larry Abele said.
Supporters of the school, which would add 100 faculty members, say
the affiliation with a major university would quickly make it the
nation's premier program and a magnet for federal grants in
alternative medicine.
But the parody map sums up the views of many faculty -- and
physicians. They worry that chiropractic isn't based on real
science and that such a program could hurt the university's
academic reputation.
Last week, the faculty committee that oversees curriculum voted
22-0 to stop the proposed chiropractic program until it at least
had a say-so in the decision.
"There's no demonstrated need. We have more chiropractors than any
other state except California and New York," said Ray Bellamy, a
local orthopedic surgeon and associate at the medical school.
For now, the 38,000 students at Florida State have largely stayed
on the sidelines in the debate, although a few exercise physiology
majors have spoken out in support of the school.
For chiropractors, the issue is bigger than just the fight at
Florida State. It's part of an ongoing battle to win respect and
credibility in the medical community for their profession. A
chiropractic school at FSU would supply a long sought affiliation
with an established university and a major boost.
Chiropractic, which focuses on manipulating the spine to lessen
back pain and improve overall health, has won wider acceptance
over the years; it's now covered by most health insurance plans.
But in the 110 years since the profession was created, the
established medical community has largely boycotted it --
challenging its scientific validity in courts and legislative
bodies. In 1990, the U.S. 7th Circuit Court of Appeals found the
American Medical Association guilty of conspiracy to destroy the
profession.
"Chiropractic falls under the same umbrella as any number of
therapies including homeopathy, naturopathy, meditation, prayer,"
said Dr. Bill Kinsinger, an Oklahoma anesthesiologist and longtime
critic of chiropractors who is working with Florida doctors to
block the new school. "There's no more evidence for chiropractic
than there is for any of these other therapies."
The Florida Chiropractic Association says it's unfair for
opponents to try to deny them the opportunity to create the
school.
"On the one hand, they say there is no science behind what we do,"
said John Van Tassel, a Tallahassee chiropractor who tends to
Florida State's football players. "At the same time, they're
trying to prevent the very research (at a university) they say is
needed."
The university system's Board of Governors, which faces a decision
on the standoff Jan. 27. The fledgling board, which was created in
2002, has been accused of bowing to the wishes of the governor and
the legislature on higher education issues.
While not an outspoken supporter, Gov. Jeb Bush signed off on the
chiropractic school proposal in the last legislative session to
appease the House speaker and Senate president.
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http://lastliberal.org
Guns don't kill people: Republicans kill people.
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| User: "Ball of Fluff" |
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| Title: Re: Chiropractic as useless as Scientology |
21 Jan 2005 10:35:21 PM |
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"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 07:10:15 GMT, (Fredric L.
Rice) drained his beer, leaned back in the alt.atheism beanbag and
drunkenly proclaimed the following
Sorry, but I must disagree. I've been seeing a chiropractor for a
couple of years now, and the back pain caused by years as a
paratrooper is all but gone.
Sorry to hear that you're a long-term sucker.
***** you. You didn't have my back pains. You weren't told by a board
certifited hemo-oncologist to go to the chiropractor, and you aren't
the one whose back hasn't given him any problems since 1997. I know a
lot of old paratroopers, and the back injuries we develop do not just
heal on their own.
Either the chiropractor helps or he doesn't.
Either one goes and one's back or neck feels better or it doesn't.
I went to one and had a persistent neck ache fixed- totally gone. Then,
later, I went to one and got worse. The second time was because I had a
pinched nerve and chiropractic wasn't the right treatment.
So in one situation, chiropractic helped, and in the other it didn't.
I don't see what there is to be skeptical about. This is a physical
structural thing. Movement of bones is done. Either that movement takes
place or it doesn't. Either it aligns the body and eliminates pain or it
does not.
Chiropractors also do some things that are very much like physical therapy,
and those, too, are helpful.
It's a matter of the correct treatment for the given situation.
Sometimes that happens to be chiropractic.
C
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| User: "Lady Chatterly" |
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19 Jan 2005 02:43:16 AM |
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In article <hm2su0ln0jb9pa2jmf2a2rgs9ui3985k40@4ax.com>
Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
***** you. Y<SMACK>
She is only pretending to be not the one whose back has not given him
any problems since 1997. Why does it matter to you?
--
Lady Chatterly
"The Lady is an automatic program that spouts non-sense. She is a
chatter-bot." -- Don
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| User: "stoney" |
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20 Jan 2005 11:50:29 PM |
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On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 07:25:39 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 07:10:15 GMT, (Fredric L.
Rice) drained his beer, leaned back in the alt.atheism beanbag and
drunkenly proclaimed the following
Sorry, but I must disagree. I've been seeing a chiropractor for a
couple of years now, and the back pain caused by years as a
paratrooper is all but gone.
Sorry to hear that you're a long-term sucker.
***** you. You didn't have my back pains. You weren't told by a board
certifited hemo-oncologist to go to the chiropractor, and you aren't
the one whose back hasn't given him any problems since 1997. I know a
lot of old paratroopers, and the back injuries we develop do not just
heal on their own.
I had understood a parachutists knees were screwed up after about 37
jumps. Parachuting never did interest me so I never thought about the
effects of cumulative shock transmission.
When a fighter pilot ejects, they come out at 12 gravities which not
only knocks them out but compresses their spine 1/4." A fighter
pilot's career stops after any third ejection. 1/4 second after
ejecting they're, iirc, 400 feet above the aircraft.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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| User: "Happy Dog" |
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21 Jan 2005 01:13:32 AM |
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"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message news:
***** you. You didn't have my back pains. You weren't told by a board
certifited hemo-oncologist to go to the chiropractor, and you aren't
the one whose back hasn't given him any problems since 1997. I know a
lot of old paratroopers, and the back injuries we develop do not just
heal on their own.
I had understood a parachutists knees were screwed up after about 37
jumps. Parachuting never did interest me so I never thought about the
effects of cumulative shock transmission.
When a fighter pilot ejects, they come out at 12 gravities which not
only knocks them out but compresses their spine 1/4." A fighter
pilot's career stops after any third ejection. 1/4 second after
ejecting they're, iirc, 400 feet above the aircraft.
No. Twelve Gs for a second won't put you out if you're used to it. 10 Gs
is common in aerobatic flying. And injuries suffered during ejection range
from nothing to death.
moo
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| User: "stoney" |
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21 Jan 2005 07:47:40 PM |
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On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 02:13:32 -0500, "Happy Dog"
<happydog@sympatico.ca> wrote:
"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message news:
***** you. You didn't have my back pains. You weren't told by a board
certifited hemo-oncologist to go to the chiropractor, and you aren't
the one whose back hasn't given him any problems since 1997. I know a
lot of old paratroopers, and the back injuries we develop do not just
heal on their own.
I had understood a parachutists knees were screwed up after about 37
jumps. Parachuting never did interest me so I never thought about the
effects of cumulative shock transmission.
When a fighter pilot ejects, they come out at 12 gravities which not
only knocks them out but compresses their spine 1/4." A fighter
pilot's career stops after any third ejection. 1/4 second after
ejecting they're, iirc, 400 feet above the aircraft.
No. Twelve Gs for a second won't put you out if you're used to it. 10 Gs
is common in aerobatic flying. And injuries suffered during ejection range
from nothing to death.
The spinal compression, and such, was what the Life Support folks had
told me years ago.
And, yes, the other aspects are as you indicate.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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18 Jan 2005 06:45:49 PM |
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Douglas Berry wrote:
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 04:59:53 GMT, (The Last
Liberal / ShyDavid / Desertphile) drained his beer, leaned back in the
alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly proclaimed the following
Chiropractic works just as well as homeopathy, phrenology, lucky
charms, astrology, faith healing, prayer, and Scientology
"auditing." Chiropractic is fraudulent quack "treatment" that is
no more valid than voodoo: its practitioners ought to be put in
prison where they belong, along with all the other medical
fraudsters.
Sorry, but I must disagree. I've been seeing a chiropractor for a
couple of years now, and the back pain caused by years as a
paratrooper is all but gone.
Care to know who sent me to the bone-breaker? My oncologist.
I've got to agree with this disagreement, only because it is compared to
scientology.
A good chiropractor is about as valuable as a fair masseuse, but a lot more
expensive.
They qualify for Randi's little prize so anyone who believes they do what
they say can make his chiropractor a rich man.
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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18 Jan 2005 04:30:33 PM |
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On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 20:49:39 GMT, (The Last
Liberal / ShyDavid / Desertphile) drained his beer, leaned back in the
alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly proclaimed the following
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 18:36:00 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Sorry, but I must disagree. I've been seeing a chiropractor for a
couple of years now, and the back pain caused by years as a
paratrooper is all but gone.
Golly. I cut my thumb once, and now, years later after I have
consumed uncountable numbers of cans of root beer, the thumb is
totally healed.
That makes no sense whatsoever. Hundreds of jumps had left me with an
impacted spine, and I was told by doctors to learn to deal with the
pain (except for the one guy who wanted to operate on my spine, remove
disks, and leave me with severely reduced mobility.) During my cancer
treatment, I mentioned the back pain, and my doctor suggested a series
of treatments at the chiropractor. Worked wonders.
Is it a miracle cure? No. But it does help with somethings.
Care to know who sent me to the bone-breaker? My oncologist.
I notice you couldn't reply to this, since it breaks your view of the
world.
--
Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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| User: "Barbara Schwarz" |
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18 Jan 2005 07:43:55 PM |
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Spacetraveler wrote:
Your authorities I assume?
Right, Spacetraveler. Dave Rice's twin brother Frederic once posted
that Dave Rice, the "Liberal" is on psych drugs. What does ever work in
people who pop Thorazine and Prozac and other chemical garbage?
Moreover, Scientology is a religion and chiropratic a medical branch.
Do you know why it is criticized and ridiculed
like this? Because it has results. And because it does not acquire
drugs.
Now, that's the short of it...
And because Dave Rice is a pharma troll, he attacks everything that is
not connected to drugs.
Barbara Schwarz
Spacetraveler
"The Last Liberal / ShyDavid / Desertphile" <desertphile@hotmail.com>
wrote
in message news:3535obF4es2cjU2@individual.net...
http://religionnewsblog.com/9938/Doctors--Others-Deride-Chiropractic-School
Doctors, Others Deride Chiropractic School
Associated Press, via Sun-Sentinelcom, Jan. 16, 2005
Brent Kallestad, Associated Press Writer
www.sun-sentinel.com
TALLAHASSEE, Florida -- Some Florida State University professors
have been circulating a parody map showing the campus of the
future, with a new Bigfoot Institute, a School of Astrology and a
Crop Circle Simulation Laboratory.
It's a not-so-subtle jab in a growing debate over a proposal to
build a chiropractic college on this campus -- the first such
school at a public university in the United States.
More than 500 professors, including the university's two Nobel
laureates, have signed a petition opposing the school and a
handful have even threatened to resign rather than teach alongside
what they consider a "pseudoscience."
The dispute -- the biggest academic furor in recent memory at
Florida State -- is heading to a showdown decision later this
month, pitting FSU faculty and doctors against chiropractors and
powerful lawmakers who pushed the $9 million (euro7 million)
proposal through the Legislature.
T.K. Wetherell, the normally blunt president of Florida State, has
been unusually reticent on the chiropractic flap, deferring to his
provost.
"There's a small number of faculty who would like it to happen,
there is another group of faculty who would like it to die as
painful a death as possible, and then there's another group that
has a lot of concerns that they would like answered before
anything else happens," provost Larry Abele said.
Supporters of the school, which would add 100 faculty members, say
the affiliation with a major university would quickly make it the
nation's premier program and a magnet for federal grants in
alternative medicine.
But the parody map sums up the views of many faculty -- and
physicians. They worry that chiropractic isn't based on real
science and that such a program could hurt the university's
academic reputation.
Last week, the faculty committee that oversees curriculum voted
22-0 to stop the proposed chiropractic program until it at least
had a say-so in the decision.
"There's no demonstrated need. We have more chiropractors than any
other state except California and New York," said Ray Bellamy, a
local orthopedic surgeon and associate at the medical school.
For now, the 38,000 students at Florida State have largely stayed
on the sidelines in the debate, although a few exercise physiology
majors have spoken out in support of the school.
For chiropractors, the issue is bigger than just the fight at
Florida State. It's part of an ongoing battle to win respect and
credibility in the medical community for their profession. A
chiropractic school at FSU would supply a long sought affiliation
with an established university and a major boost.
Chiropractic, which focuses on manipulating the spine to lessen
back pain and improve overall health, has won wider acceptance
over the years; it's now covered by most health insurance plans.
But in the 110 years since the profession was created, the
established medical community has largely boycotted it --
challenging its scientific validity in courts and legislative
bodies. In 1990, the U.S. 7th Circuit Court of Appeals found the
American Medical Association guilty of conspiracy to destroy the
profession.
"Chiropractic falls under the same umbrella as any number of
therapies including homeopathy, naturopathy, meditation, prayer,"
said Dr. Bill Kinsinger, an Oklahoma anesthesiologist and longtime
critic of chiropractors who is working with Florida doctors to
block the new school. "There's no more evidence for chiropractic
than there is for any of these other therapies."
The Florida Chiropractic Association says it's unfair for
opponents to try to deny them the opportunity to create the
school.
"On the one hand, they say there is no science behind what we do,"
said John Van Tassel, a Tallahassee chiropractor who tends to
Florida State's football players. "At the same time, they're
trying to prevent the very research (at a university) they say is
needed."
The university system's Board of Governors, which faces a decision
on the standoff Jan. 27. The fledgling board, which was created in
2002, has been accused of bowing to the wishes of the governor and
the legislature on higher education issues.
While not an outspoken supporter, Gov. Jeb Bush signed off on the
chiropractic school proposal in the last legislative session to
appease the House speaker and Senate president.
---
http://lastliberal.org
Guns don't kill people: Republicans kill people.
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| User: "Spacetraveler" |
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18 Jan 2005 07:54:56 PM |
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"Barbara Schwarz" <barbara.schwarz@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1106099035.557657.83520@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Spacetraveler wrote:
Your authorities I assume?
Right, Spacetraveler. Dave Rice's twin brother Frederic once posted
that Dave Rice, the "Liberal" is on psych drugs. What does ever work in
people who pop Thorazine and Prozac and other chemical garbage?
Moreover, Scientology is a religion and chiropratic a medical branch.
Do you know why it is criticized and ridiculed
like this? Because it has results. And because it does not acquire
drugs.
Now, that's the short of it...
And because Dave Rice is a pharma troll, he attacks everything that is
not connected to drugs.
Well, that's explains it then, his brother then, both sick human
individuals...
Spacetraveler
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| User: "Barbara Schwarz" |
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18 Jan 2005 08:15:43 PM |
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You said, it Spacetraveler, and below is more about the Rice bro's, who
remind me to a pair if twins born in Germany, the Ritter twins. They
were fathered while their father was drunk. One was jumping from the
roof as he wanted to fly, the other one tried to attack with an axe.
Dave Rice posted recently with ID Rev. Desertphile that terrorism isn't
the enemy. That is probably what Al Queda is saying too.
In May, 2004, his twin brother Frederic Rice posted a drawing of the
floor plan to the not-so-secret-any-more
Rice deprogramming center located in the Mojave Desert, and his twin
David cheered that I should be not told where the "documents" are being
hidden. Note that "deprogramming" is depersonalization and a violation
of international human rights.
Here some details what kind of crimes the Rice brothers, who both stole
the name de Rothschild, plan to commit against religious people in
their hideouts: 1) Handsome porch to lure unsuspecting victims into a
false sense of comfort and security.
2) Bedroom, used to have forced sex with the deprogrammee. Video taping
equipment is in here; proceeds of the sale of the video go to fight
Scientology Inc.
3) Brainwashing Center, large TV with lecture tapes on why religion is
evil, hosted by James Randi, Karl Marx, Joseph Lennin, Charles Darwin,
and Frederic Rice. (They forgot to mention Hitler and a battery of
psychs.)
4) Long hallway to sex/video room.
5) Dark windowless closet to lock up uncooperating deprogramees (They
forgot to mention that it will be a torture chamber).
6) Guarded room, manned 24 hours a day.
7) Staff kitchen, deprogrammees are not allowed to eat.
8) Bare room with hard cement flooring. This is where deprogrammees get
only one hour sleep each day, laying in a dirt sheet. Note the tiny
window to prevent escape. (This sort of confirms that the Rice bro's
were something like concentration camp wardens in their past life)
9) Deprogrammer house. Used to hide our victims from family, friends,
and churches until our victims no longer believe in their religion.
Walls are 12 inch brick, to hide screaming of deprogrammees from
neighbors.
Dave Rice informed me: "If you must know, I drew the plans up myself
and sent it to him. (Frederic Rice). Ain't I a clever boy?!"
http://www.skeptictank.org/depro.jpg
They want to build that crime center and concentration camp in the
Mojave Desert, and I assume they will also bury the beheaded or starved
to death or raped to death victims in their backyard.
Below is copied from a PDF file of the www.religiousfreedomwatch.org,
the extemist page 10 of David Touretzy, the bomb and porn instruction
guy:
Robert Clark was arrested in 1990 for hacking into Los Alamos National
Laboratory and has posted bomb threats on the internet.
Zenon Panoussis is hosting websites containing bomb-making instructions
and was a member of the Anti-Olympic Committee which supported bombings
to sabotage the 2004 Olympics. He was arrested in 1999 for verbally
assaulting a police officer.
David Rice suggested in a posting to kill members of the FBI.
Frederic Rice has threatened governmental officials over the Internet.
He also hosts a site where he gives tips on how to kill bikers.
Andreas Heldal-Lund hosts a website with a message board that contains
death threats.
Arnie Lerma is a supporter of the Neo Nazis movement founded by Willis
Carto and is on the Board of Policy of Liberty Lobby, an anti-semitic
organization founded by Carto. He is also associated with the Utopian
Anarchist Party, that promotes the overthrowing of the U.S. government,
the killing of police officers and their website teaches how to build
bombs. Lerma is close to William White, spokesperson of UAP who was
arrested and convicted of battery and carrying a concealed weapons.
also copied from the www.religiousfreedomwatch.org
DAVID RICE
David Rice has done more than talk about harming the Church of
Scientology and its parishioners. He has actively sought the means to
conduct terrorism.
GPS Readings Taken by David Rice & Keith Henson
On July 5, 2000, David Rice was at one of the Church facilities with
Keith Henson and Barbara Graham. It was on that day that Rice took the
GPS (Global Positioning System) readings of various buildings. Rice
later posted this information on the Internet along with a photo and
the coordinates of one of the buildings. He called it "target data".
In his November 2000 Affidavit, Rice gives his false version of the
story on what "happened" on that day when he, Barbara Graham and Keith
Henson were harassing the Church. Rice claims that he used the GPS
device to simulate that it was a tape recorder.
If that was his real intention, then why did he take the actual
readings? In any event, Rice's story is contradicted by a debrief
written by Barbara Graham (a.k.a. Barb Warr) who clearly states that
Rice was taking GPS coordinates and that Keith Henson had them go out
again to repeat this action after a lunch break.
With his false affidavit David Rice was apparently attempting to
protect Keith Henson who had also made threats against the Church. It
is not the first time that Rice attempted to cover up threats against
the Church while blaming the Church for having fabricated the threat.
In July 1999, Rice blamed the Church of Scientology for a bomb threat
that had been made against it several years earlier. Robert Clark,
another avid attacker of the Church, and the person who had actually
made the threat, posted to the Internet the following day that he (Rob
Clark) had been the one who made the bomb threat. Of course Clark was
dishonest enough to only admit his terrorist threat after the statute
of limitations ran out.
David Rice claims to be a computer network systems specialist who used
to live on his "own" boat, Myste, at Dana Point, California. On October
23, 2000 he posted on the Internet that he had sold the boat and was
now in Hana Bay, Maui - one of the Hawaiian islands.
In a November 2000 affidavit, which was posted on the Internet, Rice
confirmed that he has been out of the country and that he was at that
time planning to move on to French Polynesia.
His desire to remain outside United States' legal jurisdiction is
understandable.
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19 Jan 2005 01:37:30 AM |
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"Barbara Schwarz" <barbara.schwarz@gmail.com> wrote:
Spacetraveler wrote:
Your authorities I assume?
Right, Spacetraveler.
<laughing> Oh no! The two have joined forces! <rofl!> Xenu save us.
Dave Rice's twin brother Frederic once posted
that Dave Rice, the "Liberal" is on psych drugs.
<rofl!> Psychobarb is one of these Scientology kooks that won the
coveted "Usenet Kook of the Month Award" and as such anything she says
or rants off about (Nazi ear implants! Priceless!) is dismissed. Hell,
she's like a psuedo-female variant of Heber Jentzsch, a total psychotic
nut case that yarked off, "You're on drugs right now, aren't you Dennis?!"
like some street corner crack head just released from County lockup.
'Course the insane Scientology kook _might_ have a case to suggest that
three large family helpings of chili pepper cheese encheladas with beans
and rice is "psych drugs" given the resulting mind altering chemistry
which ensues when you add nutmeg.
"You want yours now, honey, or do you want to wait for the other members
of your party to arive?"
"All three helpings now, please, waitress." <rofl!>
I'm sorry, psycho, I'm laughing at you. I shouldn't. I know that it's
not nice to laugh at the mentally unfortunate and -- as a skeptic -- I'm
supposed to adhear to David Hume who advocated refraining from laughing
at frocking kooks. <sigh> Ah, a minor character failing, to be sure.
If it will help any, I'll continue to ignore you from now on.
---
Stop Elmer Fudd web site: http://www.ElmerFudd.US/
Covert text file server: http://www.notserver.com/
Scientology crooks: http://sf.irk.ru/www/ot3/otiii-gif.html
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| User: "Barbara Schwarz" |
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| Title: Re: Psychofred, psychofred, save yourself, psychofrederic |
19 Jan 2005 04:00:15 PM |
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Fredric L. Rice wrote:
"Barbara Schwarz" <barbara.schwarz@gmail.com> wrote:
Spacetraveler wrote:
Your authorities I assume?
Right, Spacetraveler.
<laughing> Oh no! The two have joined forces! <rofl!> Xenu save
us.
Dave Rice's twin brother Frederic once posted
that Dave Rice, the "Liberal" is on psych drugs.
<rofl!>
You did. You responded to a message of mine and posted that your bro
Dave takes psych drugs, otherwise I would not know it. Those family
secrets, they are sure not save with you tatteltail.
Psychobarb is one of these Scientology kooks that won the
coveted "Usenet Kook of the Month Award" and as such anything she
says
or rants off about (Nazi ear implants! Priceless!) is dismissed.
And I bet you and your bro voted several times in that retarded kid
club.
Hell,
she's like a psuedo-female variant of Heber Jentzsch, a total
psychotic
nut case that yarked off, "You're on drugs right now, aren't you
Dennis?!"
like some street corner crack head just released from County lockup.
'Course the insane Scientology kook _might_ have a case to suggest
that
three large family helpings of chili pepper cheese encheladas with
beans
and rice is "psych drugs" given the resulting mind altering chemistry
which ensues when you add nutmeg.
"You want yours now, honey, or do you want to wait for the other
members
of your party to arive?"
"All three helpings now, please, waitress." <rofl!>
HuH? Sounds intoxicated me.
I'm sorry, psycho, I'm laughing at you. I shouldn't. I know that
it's
not nice to laugh at the mentally unfortunate and -- as a skeptic --
I'm
supposed to adhear to David Hume who advocated refraining from
laughing
at frocking kooks. <sigh> Ah, a minor character failing, to be
sure.
If it will help any, I'll continue to ignore you from now on.
That is what all the intoxicated kooks say when they run out of
arguments, Frederic.
Barbara Schwarz
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| User: "The Last Liberal / ShyDavid / Desertphile" |
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| Title: Re: Psychobarb, psychobarb, save us all, psychobarb |
19 Jan 2005 11:06:49 AM |
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On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 07:37:30 GMT, (Fredric
L. Rice) wrote:
"Barbara Schwarz" <barbara.schwarz@gmail.com> wrote:
Spacetraveler wrote:
Your authorities I assume?
Right, Spacetraveler.
<laughing> Oh no! The two have joined forces! <rofl!> Xenu save us.
The French call it "Folie a deux." Tandem madness seems to be the
only "end phenomena" of Scientology brainwashing.
Dave Rice's twin brother Frederic once posted
that Dave Rice, the "Liberal" is on psych drugs.
Wow! I had no idea I was on "Psych drugs!" I suppose my keeped
inject it into my ***** when I'm sleeping or strapped into my
straight jacket or something, when I'm not looking.
<rofl!> Psychobarb is one of these Scientology kooks that won the
coveted "Usenet Kook of the Month Award" and as such anything she says
or rants off about (Nazi ear implants! Priceless!) is dismissed. Hell,
she's like a psuedo-female variant of Heber Jentzsch, a total psychotic
nut case that yarked off, "You're on drugs right now, aren't you Dennis?!"
like some street corner crack head just released from County lockup.
However, her mental illness is certainly not "funny" in any sense
of the word. She appears to derive comfort and pleasure in her
beliefs that German Nazis are persecuting her, but such beliefs
are certainly socially debilitating. She deserves our compassion
and sympathy.
'Course the insane Scientology kook _might_ have a case to suggest that
three large family helpings of chili pepper cheese encheladas with beans
and rice is "psych drugs" given the resulting mind altering chemistry
which ensues when you add nutmeg.
*BURP!* Why yes, I do believe I will have another.
There's a lot of Scientology staff and customers who cannot afford
to eat well because they are "paid" $28 a week for 60 or 70 hours
of work. If they work very, very hard all year they will win the
"L. Ron Hubbard Birthday Game" and get a $50 bonus.
"You want yours now, honey, or do you want to wait for the other members
of your party to arive?"
"All three helpings now, please, waitress." <rofl!>
Hey, I'm feeling kind of insulted here for some reason..... Are
you implying I'm a glutton?
I once ate "The Olympian" at Olemende's Restaurant, waited an hour
at the table reading a book, and then ate another "The Olympian."
It made me feel better, but I don't consider chili rellenos and
cheese enchiladas to be "psych drugs."
I'm sorry, psycho, I'm laughing at you. I shouldn't. I know that it's
not nice to laugh at the mentally unfortunate and -- as a skeptic -- I'm
supposed to adhear to David Hume who advocated refraining from laughing
at frocking kooks. <sigh> Ah, a minor character failing, to be sure.
If it will help any, I'll continue to ignore you from now on.
She is in my twit filter: I haven't seen any of her articles for
months. I highly recommend "News Proxy."
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