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"Fredric L. Rice" |
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31 Jan 2005 04:05:55 AM |
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Christian "Abstinence programs" are failures |
Just like Christianity.
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The federal government will spend $131 million this year on a
smorgasbord of abstinence-only education programs.
Many public health experts are concerned that no one really knows what
the government is buying.
From The Dallas Morning News, 1/29/05:
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/013005dnnatabstinence..a9173..html
Abstinence programs: lessons in futility?
Classes aren't changing Texas teens' sexual habits, researchers say
By LAURA BEIL / The Dallas Morning News
Abstinence-only programs -- the hallmark of the Bush administration's
federal sex education policy -- seem to have little impact on the
behavior of Texas teenagers.
The first evaluation of programs used throughout the state has found
that students in almost all high school grades were more sexually
active after abstinence education.
Researchers don't believe the programs encouraged teenagers to have
sex, only that the abstinence messages did not interfere with the
usual trends among adolescents growing up.
"We didn't find what many would like for us to find," said researcher
Buzz Pruitt of Texas A&M University.
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31 Jan 2005 04:14:19 AM |
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"Fredric L. Rice" <FRice@SkepticTank.ORG> wrote in message
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Just like Christianity.
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The federal government will spend $131 million this year on a
smorgasbord of abstinence-only education programs.
Many public health experts are concerned that no one really knows what
the government is buying.
From The Dallas Morning News, 1/29/05:
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/013005dnna
tabstinence..a9173..html
Abstinence programs: lessons in futility?
Classes aren't changing Texas teens' sexual habits, researchers say
By LAURA BEIL / The Dallas Morning News
Abstinence-only programs -- the hallmark of the Bush administration's
federal sex education policy -- seem to have little impact on the
behavior of Texas teenagers.
The first evaluation of programs used throughout the state has found
that students in almost all high school grades were more sexually
active after abstinence education.
Researchers don't believe the programs encouraged teenagers to have
sex, only that the abstinence messages did not interfere with the
usual trends among adolescents growing up.
"We didn't find what many would like for us to find," said researcher
Buzz Pruitt of Texas A&M University.
Kind of reminds you of Nixon's attempt to find out dirt about marijuana use;
when his own surgeon general came back with a conclusion that NONE of the
right wing republican fears and tales about marijuana were true - Nixon
trashed the report.
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| User: "skyeyes" |
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01 Feb 2005 05:04:59 PM |
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ZenIsWhen wrote:
Kind of reminds you of Nixon's attempt to
find out dirt abou=ADt marijuana use; when his
own surgeon general came back with a
conclusion tha=ADt NONE of the right wing
republican fears and tales about marijuana
were t=ADrue - Nixon trashed the report
I believe he did the same with a pornography study he commissioned, did
he not? Man, talk about selective perception....
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professof of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herder
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| User: "stoney" |
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03 Feb 2005 05:03:13 AM |
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On 1 Feb 2005 09:04:59 -0800, "skyeyes" <skyeyes@dakotacom.net> wrote:
ZenIsWhen wrote:
Kind of reminds you of Nixon's attempt to
find out dirt about marijuana use; when his
own surgeon general came back with a
conclusion that NONE of the right wing
republican fears and tales about marijuana
were true - Nixon trashed the report
I believe he did the same with a pornography study he commissioned, did
he not? Man, talk about selective perception....
The Meese Report iirc.
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| User: "Doc Smartass" |
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01 Feb 2005 12:16:39 AM |
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(Fredric L. Rice) wrote in
news:10vrbngqocbo080@corp.supernews.com:
Just like Christianity.
Abstinence programs are pushed by floppy-noodle types like falwell,
robertson, and dobson: If they're not getting laid, neither should we.
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Wart inhale dough way cur?
Hurl, hurl, door gong's oil hair!
Wart inhale dough way cur, nor?
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| User: "MarkA" |
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01 Feb 2005 03:27:53 PM |
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On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 04:05:55 +0000, Fredric L. Rice wrote:
"We didn't find what many would like for us to find," said researcher Buzz
Pruitt of Texas A&M University.
Well, then KEEP LOOKING. If you come up with any WMDs, we'll take them,
too.
-- GW & friends
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MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
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| User: "The Last Liberal / ShyDavid / Desertphile" |
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31 Jan 2005 03:12:27 PM |
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On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 04:05:55 GMT, (Fredric
L. Rice) wrote:
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/013005dnnatabstinence..a9173..html
Abstinence programs: lessons in futility?
Classes aren't changing Texas teens' sexual habits, researchers say
Yeah, of course, but that isn't the point! The point is to
purchase votes, not to curb pregnancy and disease.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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31 Jan 2005 05:57:21 AM |
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On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 04:05:55 GMT, (Fredric L.
Rice) said in alt.atheism:
The first evaluation of programs used throughout the state has found
that students in almost all high school grades were more sexually
active after abstinence education.
I guess they'll just have to keep doing evaluations - until one of
them gets it "right".
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| User: "kathryn" |
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31 Jan 2005 07:11:09 AM |
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"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:94irv0dtf23aa4m47dnj7i39khlfunfirp@4ax.com...
On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 04:05:55 GMT, (Fredric L.
Rice) said in alt.atheism:
The first evaluation of programs used throughout the state has found
that students in almost all high school grades were more sexually
active after abstinence education.
I guess they'll just have to keep doing evaluations - until one of
them gets it "right".
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It's like they can't understand that it's not working and must therefore
persist until they prove it does
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| User: "Jon Stoll" |
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16 Feb 2005 09:24:35 PM |
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"kathryn" <bob@bobbybobbobthebobster.com> wrote in message
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"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
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On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 04:05:55 GMT, (Fredric L.
Rice) said in alt.atheism:
The first evaluation of programs used throughout the state has found
that students in almost all high school grades were more sexually
active after abstinence education.
I guess they'll just have to keep doing evaluations - until one of
them gets it "right".
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It's like they can't understand that it's not working and must therefore
persist until they prove it does
It just shows that abstinence makes the heart grow fonder.
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| User: "towelie" |
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16 Feb 2005 11:08:07 PM |
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TV's Jon Stoll wrote:
"kathryn" <bob@bobbybobbobthebobster.com> wrote in message
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"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
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On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 04:05:55 GMT, (Fredric L.
Rice) said in alt.atheism:
The first evaluation of programs used throughout the state has found
that students in almost all high school grades were more sexually
active after abstinence education.
I guess they'll just have to keep doing evaluations - until one of
them gets it "right".
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It's like they can't understand that it's not working and must therefore
persist until they prove it does
It just shows that abstinence makes the heart grow fonder.
It certainly makes something grow, although the heart wasn't the part of the
body that I had in mind.
--
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| User: "Fredric L. Rice" |
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31 Jan 2005 03:52:57 PM |
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"kathryn" <bob@bobbybobbobthebobster.com> wrote:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
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On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 04:05:55 GMT, (Fredric L.
Rice) said in alt.atheism:
The first evaluation of programs used throughout the state has found
that students in almost all high school grades were more sexually
active after abstinence education.
I guess they'll just have to keep doing evaluations - until one of
them gets it "right".
It's like they can't understand that it's not working and must therefore
persist until they prove it does
Just like prayer.
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| User: "Brian E. Clark" |
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01 Feb 2005 12:41:04 AM |
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In article <ctklmd$ge7$1@titan.btinternet.com>, kathryn said...
It's like they can't understand that it's not working and must therefore
persist until they prove it does
They believe in the efficacy of abstinence for reasons having
nothing to do with science. As with the push to teach
Creationism -- and the same group of people are behind both
educational initiatives -- they "know" their approach is both
correct and effective, and if science says otherwise, science
must be mistaken.
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Brian E. Clark
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| User: "MarkA" |
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01 Feb 2005 04:46:02 PM |
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On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 19:41:04 -0500, Brian E. Clark wrote:
In article <ctklmd$ge7$1@titan.btinternet.com>, kathryn said...
It's like they can't understand that it's not working and must therefore
persist until they prove it does
They believe in the efficacy of abstinence for reasons having nothing to
do with science. As with the push to teach Creationism -- and the same
group of people are behind both educational initiatives -- they "know"
their approach is both correct and effective, and if science says
otherwise, science must be mistaken.
Well, it's the old "if only people would behave the way I think they
should, there would be no problem" approach to complexity. I guess it
doesn't occur to them that even their religious leaders aren't very good
at practicing abstinence.
--
MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
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| User: "Brian E. Clark" |
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09 Mar 2005 12:21:40 AM |
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In article <pan.2005.02.01.16.46.00.43301@stopspam.net>, MarkA
said...
Well, it's the old "if only people would behave the way
I think they should, there would be no problem" approach
to complexity. I guess it doesn't occur to them that
even their religious leaders aren't very good
at practicing abstinence.
Such hypocrisy does annoy me, but it's not my primary
grievance. If the "abstinence method" really did protect kids
better than other methods, I'd have no problem with health
professionals' promoting a non-sectarian version of the
approach.
The trouble is, abstinence programs yield manifestly inferior
results. They are championed and applauded for their kinship to
Christian ethics, not for their prophylactic worth (slight pun
intended).
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Brian E. Clark
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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01 Feb 2005 01:07:35 AM |
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On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 07:11:09 +0000 (UTC), "kathryn"
<bob@bobbybobbobthebobster.com> said in alt.atheism:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:94irv0dtf23aa4m47dnj7i39khlfunfirp@4ax.com...
On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 04:05:55 GMT, (Fredric L.
Rice) said in alt.atheism:
The first evaluation of programs used throughout the state has found
that students in almost all high school grades were more sexually
active after abstinence education.
I guess they'll just have to keep doing evaluations - until one of
them gets it "right".
It's like they can't understand that it's not working and must therefore
persist until they prove it does
Their religion says it's right. Their religion is infallible.
Therefore:
The evaluation must be in error. What else could it *possibly* mean?
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| User: "stoney" |
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03 Feb 2005 05:05:03 AM |
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On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 07:11:09 +0000 (UTC), "kathryn"
<bob@bobbybobbobthebobster.com> wrote:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:94irv0dtf23aa4m47dnj7i39khlfunfirp@4ax.com...
On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 04:05:55 GMT, (Fredric L.
Rice) said in alt.atheism:
The first evaluation of programs used throughout the state has found
that students in almost all high school grades were more sexually
active after abstinence education.
I guess they'll just have to keep doing evaluations - until one of
them gets it "right".
--
It's like they can't understand that it's not working and must therefore
persist until they prove it does
They don't understand since they lack the required two functioning
neurons.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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| User: "Werner Arend" |
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31 Jan 2005 11:54:37 AM |
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kathryn wrote:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:94irv0dtf23aa4m47dnj7i39khlfunfirp@4ax.com...
On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 04:05:55 GMT, (Fredric L.
Rice) said in alt.atheism:
The first evaluation of programs used throughout the state has found
that students in almost all high school grades were more sexually
active after abstinence education.
I guess they'll just have to keep doing evaluations - until one of
them gets it "right".
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It's like they can't understand that it's not working and must therefore
persist until they prove it does
Did you expect anything else? These are the kind of people who, if the
world doesn't conform to their worldviews, thrash it until it screams
"you're right" - once.
Werner
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02 Feb 2005 11:15:15 AM |
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On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 04:05:55 GMT, (Fredric L. Rice) wrote:
Just like Christianity.
That specifically is. We're up to 33% of the current world population.
The federal government will spend $131 million this year on a
smorgasbord of abstinence-only education programs.
Classes aren't changing Texas teens' sexual habits, researchers say
Abstinence-only programs -- the hallmark of the Bush administration's
federal sex education policy -- seem to have little impact on the
behavior of Texas teenagers.
Have you looked elsewhere?
No, of course not.
duke
*****
Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
*****
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| User: "Fredric L. Rice" |
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03 Feb 2005 01:45:45 AM |
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duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 04:05:55 GMT, (Fredric L. Rice) wrote:
Just like Christianity.
That specifically is. We're up to 33% of the current world population.
You're also the number #1 mass murdering cult.
The federal government will spend $131 million this year on a
smorgasbord of abstinence-only education programs.
Classes aren't changing Texas teens' sexual habits, researchers say
Abstinence-only programs -- the hallmark of the Bush administration's
federal sex education policy -- seem to have little impact on the
behavior of Texas teenagers.
Have you looked elsewhere? No, of course not.
<laughing> You're a fucking idiot cultist, all right.
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| User: "desert phile@hot mail.com L. Ron Hubbard" |
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03 Feb 2005 03:52:04 PM |
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On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 01:45:45 GMT, (Fredric
L. Rice) wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
We're [Christian population] up to 33% of the current world
population.
Due to birth only. Pretty damn disgusting to see children
inflicted with occult indoctrination.
As for growth of religion, Islam beats Christianity without a
contest.
You're also the number #1 mass murdering cult.
That's putting it mildly. In the past 1,000 it has been Christians
who deserve the award for the greatest body counts.
The federal government will spend $131 million this year on a
smorgasbord of abstinence-only education programs.
Classes aren't changing Texas teens' sexual habits, researchers say
Abstinence-only programs -- the hallmark of the Bush administration's
federal sex education policy -- seem to have little impact on the
behavior of Texas teenagers.
Have you looked elsewhere? No, of course not.
Huh?
<laughing> You're a fucking idiot cultist, all right.
He proved that a long time ago.
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04 Feb 2005 04:51:11 AM |
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desert phile@hot mail.com (L. Ron Hubbard) wrote:
On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 01:45:45 GMT, (Fredric
L. Rice) wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
We're [Christian population] up to 33% of the current world population.
Due to birth only. Pretty damn disgusting to see children
inflicted with occult indoctrination.
If you look at Europe, Christian attendence in the churches is nothing like
what we see in the United States where the quality of education is so poor.
As for growth of religion, Islam beats Christianity without a contest.
A lot of American blacks went to Islam as a means of denying the
Christianity of what they believe was the people who enslaved them.
You're also the number #1 mass murdering cult.
That's putting it mildly. In the past 1,000 it has been Christians
who deserve the award for the greatest body counts.
The federal government will spend $131 million this year on a
smorgasbord of abstinence-only education programs.
Classes aren't changing Texas teens' sexual habits, researchers say
Abstinence-only programs -- the hallmark of the Bush administration's
federal sex education policy -- seem to have little impact on the
behavior of Texas teenagers.
Have you looked elsewhere? No, of course not.
Huh?
You have to learn how to speak cultist.
<laughing> You're a fucking idiot cultist, all right.
He proved that a long time ago.
Amen, brother. }:-}
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02 Feb 2005 03:58:54 PM |
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duke wrote:
On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 04:05:55 GMT, (Fredric L.
Rice) wrote:
Just like Christianity.
That specifically is. We're up to 33% of the current world
population.
"Up to"?
The federal government will spend $131 million this year on a
smorgasbord of abstinence-only education programs.
Classes aren't changing Texas teens' sexual habits, researchers say
Abstinence-only programs -- the hallmark of the Bush
administration's
federal sex education policy -- seem to have little impact on the
behavior of Texas teenagers.
Have you looked elsewhere?
Have you? No, of course not.
No, of course not.
You have evidence Texas' teenagers are atypical? No, of course not.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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03 Feb 2005 01:58:15 AM |
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On 2 Feb 2005 07:58:54 -0800, "jesshc" <jesshc@phantomemail.com> said
in alt.atheism:
You have evidence Texas' teenagers are atypical? No, of course not.
We know that in the Red states both abortion and out of wedlock
pregnancy are on the rise. And those are the states most likely to
push "abstinence only".
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stood as anthropomorphic. What I see in Nature is a magnificent structure that we can
comprehend only very imperfectly, and that must fill a thinking person with a feeling of
humility. This is a genuinely religious feeling that has nothing to do with mysticism."
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| User: "Fredric L. Rice" |
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04 Feb 2005 04:53:57 AM |
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Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On 2 Feb 2005 07:58:54 -0800, "jesshc" <jesshc@phantomemail.com> said
in alt.atheism:
You have evidence Texas' teenagers are atypical? No, of course not.
We know that in the Red states both abortion and out of wedlock
pregnancy are on the rise. And those are the states most likely to
push "abstinence only".
And it's not a linear rise that matches the population growth. It was an
increase in percentage.
I'd expect that a lot of the respondants who affirmed positive after the
idiot "abstinence" program probably felt more open to telling the truth
whereas those who have never been subjected to such programs where sex is
discussed might feel reluctant to affirm positive.
It may be that no overall increase in fucking occured, only an increase
in truthful responding.
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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| Title: Re: Christian "Abstinence programs" are failures |
02 Feb 2005 06:14:29 PM |
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jesshc wrote:
duke wrote:
On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 04:05:55 GMT, (Fredric L.
Rice) wrote:
Just like Christianity.
That specifically is. We're up to 33% of the current world
population.
"Up to"?
The federal government will spend $131 million this year on a
smorgasbord of abstinence-only education programs.
Classes aren't changing Texas teens' sexual habits, researchers say
Abstinence-only programs -- the hallmark of the Bush
administration's federal sex education policy -- seem to have
little impact on the behavior of Texas teenagers.
Have you looked elsewhere?
Have you? No, of course not.
No, of course not.
You have evidence Texas' teenagers are atypical? No, of course not.
I've seen one study where abstinence was up but they got married earlier.
No follow up to see what the divorce rate was but I'd bet a nickel that they
got married earlier so they could get some.
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| User: "desert phile@hot mail.com L. Ron Hubbard" |
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| Title: Re: Christian "Abstinence programs" are failures |
04 Feb 2005 12:30:01 AM |
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On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 18:14:29 GMT, "Mike Painter"
<mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
jesshc wrote:
duke wrote:
On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 04:05:55 GMT, (Fredric L.
Rice) wrote:
Abstinence-only programs -- the hallmark of the Bush
administration's federal sex education policy -- seem to have
little impact on the behavior of Texas teenagers.
Have you looked elsewhere?
Have you? No, of course not.
No, of course not.
You have evidence Texas' teenagers are atypical? No, of course not.
Texas teenagers are indeed "atypical." They have more abortions
and babies than the rest of the USA.
I've seen one study where abstinence was up but they got married
earlier. No follow up to see what the divorce rate was but I'd
bet a nickel that they got married earlier so they could get some.
The previous study showed that participants in the program put off
having sex from 1 to 8 months later--- so instead of having sex at
14 years old, they had sex at 4 1/5. All that for a mere
$120,000,000.
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