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"*Nemo*" |
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25 Aug 2003 07:03:18 PM |
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Christian Civil Disobedience |
They're disobeying the law in Montgomery over a chunk of rock. Forcing
the police to drag them away, forcing the authorities to search for an
out-of-town contractor to move the rock, praying day and night to get
God to change the minds of judges....
What gets me is this civil disobedience thing. As if they're like the
Blacks in the 50's or the Indians in the 1920's. The thing they don't
seem to realize is that you have to be genuinely oppressed before such
displays make any real impression on people. If there's one thing the
Southern WASP isn't in Alabama, it's "oppressed."
They are only kidding other fundy zealots... and doing a darn fine job
of that. But beyond that circle of people, I'll bet there's very little
sympathy or even interest. I hope the company that finally agrees to
move that chunk of rock drops it. I want to see those idiots get on the
ground and pray for *GAWD!* to put it back together for them.
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Nemo - EAC Commissioner for Bible Belt Underwater Operations.
Atheist #1331 (the Palindrome of doom!)
BAAWA Knight! - One of those warm Southern Knights, y'all!
Charter member, SMASH!!
http://home.earthlink.net/~jehdjh/Relpg.html
Draco Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus
Quotemeister since March 2002
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| Title: Re: Christian Civil Disobedience |
25 Aug 2003 11:00:36 PM |
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"*Nemo*" <nemo0037@yahoo.NOSPMPLS.com> wrote in message
news:nemo0037-CD3029.20031725082003@news06.east.earthlink.net...
They're disobeying the law in Montgomery over a chunk of rock. Forcing
the police to drag them away, forcing the authorities to search for an
out-of-town contractor to move the rock, praying day and night to get
God to change the minds of judges....
---- The 10 Commandments rock has been shown on TV,
with the actual scruptures displayed, more than it would have ever been
seen, if it stayed there for the next 20 years, without problem.
Now, even if it is removed, the rock has done its job. Thanks for all the
publicity. :-D ;-D.
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| User: "jwk" |
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| Title: Re: Christian Civil Disobedience |
26 Aug 2003 09:06:12 AM |
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"info" <info@as-if.com> wrote in message news:<EXA2b.11$g71.4@news.randori.com>...
"*Nemo*" <nemo0037@yahoo.NOSPMPLS.com> wrote in message
news:nemo0037-CD3029.20031725082003@news06.east.earthlink.net...
They're disobeying the law in Montgomery over a chunk of rock. Forcing
the police to drag them away, forcing the authorities to search for an
out-of-town contractor to move the rock, praying day and night to get
God to change the minds of judges....
---- The 10 Commandments rock has been shown on TV,
with the actual scruptures displayed, more than it would have ever been
seen, if it stayed there for the next 20 years, without problem.
Now, even if it is removed, the rock has done its job. Thanks for all the
publicity. :-D ;-D.
No, once it is finally moved the constitution will have done it's job.
All your publicity is for naught once that occurs. It will just show
you fundies as the goons you are.
jwk
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| User: "Liz" |
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26 Aug 2003 06:23:13 AM |
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On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 04:00:36 GMT, "info" <info@as-if.com> in news
message <EXA2b.11$g71.4@news.randori.com> wrote:
"*Nemo*" <nemo0037@yahoo.NOSPMPLS.com> wrote in message
news:nemo0037-CD3029.20031725082003@news06.east.earthlink.net...
They're disobeying the law in Montgomery over a chunk of rock. Forcing
the police to drag them away, forcing the authorities to search for an
out-of-town contractor to move the rock, praying day and night to get
God to change the minds of judges....
---- The 10 Commandments rock has been shown on TV,
with the actual scruptures displayed, more than it would have ever been
seen, if it stayed there for the next 20 years, without problem.
Now, even if it is removed, the rock has done its job. Thanks for all the
publicity. :-D ;-D.
Yes, I, too, think that the publicity "has done its job". Immediately
after the Newdow case, everyone jumped on the bandwagon to decry the
godless atheist who wanted to remove the <cough> time-honored words
from the Pledge. Now after a year or so later, you hardly ever hear
about it anymore unless you listen to fundy radio stations.
Basically, the majority of the people don't care if the words "under
God®" are removed from the pledge despite the lip service paid to the
idea that God® should be part of a government ritual by all the
Congresscritters standing at attention on the Capitol steps.
It will be the same thing with the 10C monument. After the furor dies
down, everyone will forget about it. Life goes on. The one enduring
result will be that the publicity over its removal will have
highlighted the fanaticism of those who believe that God® somehow
rules the U.S. Just as in the civil rights movement, the ugly face of
those who want to enforce their own beliefs while they trample over
the rights of others will be exposed. It won't be an overnight
change, but it will be inevitable. Just as most citizens in the U.S.
now believe that members of all races deserve equal rights despite the
fanaticism of certain bigots, there will be a time in the not too
distant future when most citizens will believe that government
sponsored religion is wrong. I'm old enough to remember the "White
Only" signs, and I've seen them disappear. I have no doubt that the
"Fundy Only" symbols will disappear just as surely and within my
lifetime.
Liz #658 BAAWA
Religion may in most of its forms be defined as the
belief that the gods are on the side of the government.
-- Bertrand Russell
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| User: "Bob Dog" |
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| Title: Re: Christian Civil Disobedience |
26 Aug 2003 06:45:16 AM |
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*Nemo* <nemo0037@yahoo.NOSPMPLS.com> wrote in message news:<nemo0037-CD3029.20031725082003@news06.east.earthlink.net>...
They're disobeying the law in Montgomery over a chunk of rock. Forcing
the police to drag them away, forcing the authorities to search for an
out-of-town contractor to move the rock, praying day and night to get
God to change the minds of judges....
What gets me is this civil disobedience thing.
More like uncivil obedience of the bible.
As if they're like the
Blacks in the 50's or the Indians in the 1920's. The thing they don't
seem to realize is that you have to be genuinely oppressed before such
displays make any real impression on people. If there's one thing the
Southern WASP isn't in Alabama, it's "oppressed."
It's up-rest really (the armrest between seats) to fit
their fat asses in.
They are only kidding other fundy zealots... and doing a darn fine job
of that. But beyond that circle of people, I'll bet there's very little
sympathy or even interest. I hope the company that finally agrees to
move that chunk of rock drops it. I want to see those idiots get on the
ground and pray for *GAWD!* to put it back together for them.
Sorta like that Falwell production, showing government
troops busting into a church and shooting people, burn
bibles and other ludicrous accusations.
Bob Dog
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| User: "towelie" |
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25 Aug 2003 07:05:53 PM |
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*Nemo* wrote:
They're disobeying the law in Montgomery over a chunk of rock. Forcing
the police to drag them away, forcing the authorities to search for an
out-of-town contractor to move the rock, praying day and night to get
God to change the minds of judges....
What gets me is this civil disobedience thing. As if they're like the
Blacks in the 50's or the Indians in the 1920's. The thing they don't
seem to realize is that you have to be genuinely oppressed before such
displays make any real impression on people. If there's one thing the
Southern WASP isn't in Alabama, it's "oppressed."
They are only kidding other fundy zealots... and doing a darn fine job
of that. But beyond that circle of people, I'll bet there's very
little sympathy or even interest. I hope the company that finally
agrees to move that chunk of rock drops it. I want to see those
idiots get on the ground and pray for *GAWD!* to put it back together
for them.
Maybe they'll drop it on Roy Moron's foot.
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aa #2133
apatriot #19
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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25 Aug 2003 07:41:01 PM |
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*Nemo* wrote:
They're disobeying the law in Montgomery over a chunk of rock. Forcing
the police to drag them away, forcing the authorities to search for an
out-of-town contractor to move the rock, praying day and night to get
God to change the minds of judges....
What gets me is this civil disobedience thing. As if they're like the
Blacks in the 50's or the Indians in the 1920's. The thing they don't
seem to realize is that you have to be genuinely oppressed before such
displays make any real impression on people. If there's one thing the
Southern WASP isn't in Alabama, it's "oppressed."
So a scotsman can never be oppressed, no matter what he wears under his
kilt? :-)
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Fred Stone
Conquering the Galaxy since 2003
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| User: "*Nemo*" |
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| Title: Re: Christian Civil Disobedience |
26 Aug 2003 01:38:20 AM |
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In article <3F4AAC9D.1080907@earthling.com>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
*Nemo* wrote:
They're disobeying the law in Montgomery over a chunk of rock. Forcing
the police to drag them away, forcing the authorities to search for an
out-of-town contractor to move the rock, praying day and night to get
God to change the minds of judges....
What gets me is this civil disobedience thing. As if they're like the
Blacks in the 50's or the Indians in the 1920's. The thing they don't
seem to realize is that you have to be genuinely oppressed before such
displays make any real impression on people. If there's one thing the
Southern WASP isn't in Alabama, it's "oppressed."
So a scotsman can never be oppressed, no matter what he wears under his
kilt? :-)
Are you saying that these folks down in Alabama are oppressed? How
exactly do you figure?
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Nemo - EAC Commissioner for Bible Belt Underwater Operations.
Atheist #1331 (the Palindrome of doom!)
BAAWA Knight! - One of those warm Southern Knights, y'all!
Charter member, SMASH!!
http://home.earthlink.net/~jehdjh/Relpg.html
Draco Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus
Quotemeister since March 2002
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| User: "Brian E. Clark" |
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28 Aug 2003 05:14:18 PM |
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Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
They *feel* oppressed.
Their religion tells them they're oppressed. It's a matter of faith to
them, just like the Virgin Birth.
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Brian E. Clark
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| User: "Nvok" |
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26 Aug 2003 12:49:49 PM |
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It would be easier to remove if it were in little pieces. :-)
I couldn't agree more! I'll get a dustpan and brush.
I offered to carpool with anyone willing to swing a sledge-hammer
before all the fundies encircled it. The offer stands if they ever go
home. There is a court order to remove it. It doesn't say it has to
be in one piece. :)
I may take you up on that offer.
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| User: "johac" |
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26 Aug 2003 11:59:46 PM |
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In article <hrM2b.17336$cJ5.2143@www.newsranger.com>,
Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com> wrote:
In article <c6f5ba32.0308260604.ce13991@posting.google.com>, jwk says...
johac <jhachm@remove.ixpres.com> wrote in message
news:<jhachm-8BF03A.23115025082003@central.giganews.com>...
In article
<nemo0037-CD3029.20031725082003@news06.east.earthlink.net>,
*Nemo* <nemo0037@yahoo.NOSPMPLS.com> wrote:
They're disobeying the law in Montgomery over a chunk of rock. Forcing
the police to drag them away, forcing the authorities to search for an
out-of-town contractor to move the rock, praying day and night to get
God to change the minds of judges....
...praying to change the minds of the judges. As if that would do any
good.
What gets me is this civil disobedience thing. As if they're like the
Blacks in the 50's or the Indians in the 1920's. The thing they don't
seem to realize is that you have to be genuinely oppressed before such
displays make any real impression on people. If there's one thing the
Southern WASP isn't in Alabama, it's "oppressed."
If one goes back and looks at some of the video clips of the civil
rights demonstrations in Mongomery, Selma, and other places in that
State during the '60s, these people are absolutely being treated with
kid gloves. They don't know what 'oppression' is. I wonder if any of
the older ones took part in the attacks on the marchers?
They are only kidding other fundy zealots... and doing a darn fine job
of that. But beyond that circle of people, I'll bet there's very little
sympathy or even interest. I hope the company that finally agrees to
move that chunk of rock drops it. I want to see those idiots get on the
ground and pray for *GAWD!* to put it back together for them.
It would be easier to remove if it were in little pieces. :-)
I offered to carpool with anyone willing to swing a sledge-hammer
before all the fundies encircled it. The offer stands if they ever go
home. There is a court order to remove it. It doesn't say it has to
be in one piece. :)
Wow - Bet that would be even more fun than beating up my daughter's Barbie
pinata at her birthday party last Saturday (after the kids had gotten out all
the candy and prizes, of course) :)
Barbie pinata?
--
John Hachmann, aa #1782
Pierre Laplace, when asked by Napoleon on why he made
no mention of a god in his book on astronomy: "Sire,
I have no need of that hypothesis."
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| User: "johac" |
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28 Aug 2003 12:31:16 AM |
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In article <iA23b.17474$cJ5.2165@www.newsranger.com>,
Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com> wrote:
In article <jhachm-699129.21594626082003@central.giganews.com>, johac says...
In article <hrM2b.17336$cJ5.2143@www.newsranger.com>,
Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com> wrote:
In article <c6f5ba32.0308260604.ce13991@posting.google.com>, jwk says...
johac <jhachm@remove.ixpres.com> wrote in message
news:<jhachm-8BF03A.23115025082003@central.giganews.com>...
In article
<nemo0037-CD3029.20031725082003@news06.east.earthlink.net>,
*Nemo* <nemo0037@yahoo.NOSPMPLS.com> wrote:
They're disobeying the law in Montgomery over a chunk of rock.
Forcing
the police to drag them away, forcing the authorities to search for
an
out-of-town contractor to move the rock, praying day and night to get
God to change the minds of judges....
...praying to change the minds of the judges. As if that would do any
good.
What gets me is this civil disobedience thing. As if they're like the
Blacks in the 50's or the Indians in the 1920's. The thing they don't
seem to realize is that you have to be genuinely oppressed before
such
displays make any real impression on people. If there's one thing the
Southern WASP isn't in Alabama, it's "oppressed."
If one goes back and looks at some of the video clips of the civil
rights demonstrations in Mongomery, Selma, and other places in that
State during the '60s, these people are absolutely being treated with
kid gloves. They don't know what 'oppression' is. I wonder if any of
the older ones took part in the attacks on the marchers?
They are only kidding other fundy zealots... and doing a darn fine
job
of that. But beyond that circle of people, I'll bet there's very
little
sympathy or even interest. I hope the company that finally agrees to
move that chunk of rock drops it. I want to see those idiots get on
the
ground and pray for *GAWD!* to put it back together for them.
It would be easier to remove if it were in little pieces. :-)
I offered to carpool with anyone willing to swing a sledge-hammer
before all the fundies encircled it. The offer stands if they ever go
home. There is a court order to remove it. It doesn't say it has to
be in one piece. :)
Wow - Bet that would be even more fun than beating up my daughter's Barbie
pinata at her birthday party last Saturday (after the kids had gotten out
all
the candy and prizes, of course) :)
Barbie pinata?
Yes, you know. Big heart-shaped cardboard thing with Barbie's face plastered
on
the front. You fill it with candy and prizes, hang it from a tree branch and
let the kids beat it with a stick until it bursts open - then all the kids
dive
on the candy ;)
In this case, the adult women were allowed to give Barbie a good beatin'
after
the kids got all the goodies. It was most invigorating ;)
I can understand the adult women taking part in the Barbie bashing,
but I thought that kids were supposed to like Barbie.
Now if were a Dubya pinata......:-)
--
John Hachmann, aa #1782
Pierre Laplace, when asked by Napoleon on why he made
no mention of a god in his book on astronomy: "Sire,
I have no need of that hypothesis."
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Christian Civil Disobedience |
28 Aug 2003 09:46:46 AM |
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In article <jhachm-6687AE.22311627082003@central.giganews.com>, johac says...
In article <iA23b.17474$cJ5.2165@www.newsranger.com>,
Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com> wrote:
snippage
Wow - Bet that would be even more fun than beating up my daughter's Barbie
pinata at her birthday party last Saturday (after the kids had gotten out
all
the candy and prizes, of course) :)
Barbie pinata?
Yes, you know. Big heart-shaped cardboard thing with Barbie's face plastered
on
the front. You fill it with candy and prizes, hang it from a tree branch and
let the kids beat it with a stick until it bursts open - then all the kids
dive
on the candy ;)
In this case, the adult women were allowed to give Barbie a good beatin'
after
the kids got all the goodies. It was most invigorating ;)
I can understand the adult women taking part in the Barbie bashing,
but I thought that kids were supposed to like Barbie.
Well, they do. We let them get the candy first and THEN we smacked Barbie to
kingdom come ;)
Now if were a Dubya pinata......:-)
Oooooooooooooooh! Shoot, there probably wouldn't have been anything left of it
after we all got through with it ;)
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
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| User: "Liz" |
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25 Aug 2003 07:51:51 PM |
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On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 00:03:18 GMT, *Nemo* <nemo0037@yahoo.NOSPMPLS.com>
in news message
<nemo0037-CD3029.20031725082003@news06.east.earthlink.net> wrote:
They're disobeying the law in Montgomery over a chunk of rock. Forcing
the police to drag them away, forcing the authorities to search for an
out-of-town contractor to move the rock, praying day and night to get
God to change the minds of judges....
They see it more than just a rock. The fundies see it as a way to
prove to themselves and God® that they are loyal soldiers in the war
against the evil that has overtaken this country, despite the fact
that the crime rate is the lowest it has been in 30 years.
What gets me is this civil disobedience thing. As if they're like the
Blacks in the 50's or the Indians in the 1920's. The thing they don't
seem to realize is that you have to be genuinely oppressed before such
displays make any real impression on people. If there's one thing the
Southern WASP isn't in Alabama, it's "oppressed."
They believe they are persecuted by the humanists, the secularists and
the atheists who won't let they perform their symbolic magic on
government property and at government expense. How much more
oppressed can one get than not having the government sponsor your God®
along with all the other gods that the government doesn't sponsor.
They are only kidding other fundy zealots... and doing a darn fine job
of that. But beyond that circle of people, I'll bet there's very little
sympathy or even interest. I hope the company that finally agrees to
move that chunk of rock drops it. I want to see those idiots get on the
ground and pray for *GAWD!* to put it back together for them.
When the monument is finally moved to a private space, how many, do
you think, of the fundy faithful will go and visit it and pray before
it?
Überwench #658 Now a *real* atheist!
Dame Liz the Undaunted BAAWA
Charter Member of SMASH
and Queen of the known universe
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| User: "*Nemo*" |
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26 Aug 2003 01:42:09 AM |
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In article <j2alkvgk0sgn71agf8olcdv5dou2s8aiiq@4ax.com>,
Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote:
When the monument is finally moved to a private space, how many, do
you think, of the fundy faithful will go and visit it and pray before
it?
That will be an interesting question. If they move it to a cellar of the
building, away from public access, that's one thing. Maybe the janotirs
will pray at it.
I recall that the church across the street offered to take it in, but
Roy boy refused the offer. That might change now. I'll bet that church
would be tickled pink to get their paws on it.
Überwench #658 Now a *real* atheist!
Dame Liz the Undaunted BAAWA
Charter Member of SMASH
and Queen of the known universe
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Nemo - EAC Commissioner for Bible Belt Underwater Operations.
Atheist #1331 (the Palindrome of doom!)
BAAWA Knight! - One of those warm Southern Knights, y'all!
Charter member, SMASH!!
http://home.earthlink.net/~jehdjh/Relpg.html
Draco Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus
Quotemeister since March 2002
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Christian Civil Disobedience |
28 Aug 2003 12:44:45 AM |
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In article
<nemo0037-AB668D.02420926082003@news05.east.earthlink.net>,
*Nemo* <nemo0037@yahoo.NOSPMPLS.com> wrote:
In article <j2alkvgk0sgn71agf8olcdv5dou2s8aiiq@4ax.com>,
Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote:
When the monument is finally moved to a private space, how many, do
you think, of the fundy faithful will go and visit it and pray before
it?
That will be an interesting question. If they move it to a cellar of the
building, away from public access, that's one thing. Maybe the janotirs
will pray at it.
I recall that the church across the street offered to take it in, but
Roy boy refused the offer. That might change now. I'll bet that church
would be tickled pink to get their paws on it.
If the church doesn't want it, I have another modest proposal. Perhaps
the good people of Montgomery might like a little European touch in
their fair city. What they need to do is move it out out to the
street. Build a partition around it. Put a little roof over it, and
with a few more modifications.....ta da!:
http://www.plumsite.com/fredgurner/pissoir.htm
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John Hachmann, aa #1782
Pierre Laplace, when asked by Napoleon on why he made
no mention of a god in his book on astronomy: "Sire,
I have no need of that hypothesis."
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| User: "Gregory Gadow" |
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26 Aug 2003 08:08:51 AM |
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Liz wrote:
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 06:42:09 GMT, *Nemo* <nemo0037@yahoo.NOSPMPLS.com>
in news message
<nemo0037-AB668D.02420926082003@news05.east.earthlink.net> wrote:
In article <j2alkvgk0sgn71agf8olcdv5dou2s8aiiq@4ax.com>,
Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote:
When the monument is finally moved to a private space, how many, do
you think, of the fundy faithful will go and visit it and pray before
it?
That will be an interesting question. If they move it to a cellar of the
building, away from public access, that's one thing. Maybe the janotirs
will pray at it.
I recall that the church across the street offered to take it in, but
Roy boy refused the offer. That might change now. I'll bet that church
would be tickled pink to get their paws on it.
I think that it will be rather like the Pledge of Allegiance. No one
cares about saying the Pledge until the Court finds that two words are
unConstitutional. Once the monument is moved to a church or private
land, no one will make the effort to visit it. It will be old news.
In fact if the monument is moved, it will be evidence of the failure
of prayer.
On the other hand, if the momument is not removed, it could very well be
evidence of the nonexistence of God.
"Now it is such a bizarrely imporbable coincidence that anything so
mindbogglingly useful [as the Babel fish] could have evolved purely by chance
that some thinkers have chosen to see it as a final and clinching proof of
the nonexistence of God.
"The argument goes something like this: 'I refuse to prove that I exists,'
says God, 'for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing.'
"'But,' says Man, 'the Babel fish is a dead giveaway, isn't it? It could not
have evolved by chance. It rpoves you exist, and so therefore, by your own
arguments, you don't. QED.'
"'Oh dear,' says God. 'I hadn't thought of that,' and promptly vanishes in a
puff of logic."
-- The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
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Gregory Gadow
techbear@serv.net
http://www.serv.net/~techbear
"If you make yourself a sheep, the wolves will eat you."
-- Benjamin Franklin
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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26 Aug 2003 09:17:20 AM |
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In article <j2alkvgk0sgn71agf8olcdv5dou2s8aiiq@4ax.com>, Liz says...
snippage
When the monument is finally moved to a private space, how many, do
you think, of the fundy faithful will go and visit it and pray before
it?
Look at all the idiots that flocked to that smeared window at the hospital in
Boston. If they all went running to that mess (and any other smear and/or
tortilla chip that resembles Jesus or the virgin Mary), I'm sure they'll go a
running to the rock :P
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
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| User: "Liz" |
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26 Aug 2003 06:04:22 PM |
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On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 14:17:20 GMT, Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com>
in news message <QZJ2b.17285$cJ5.1914@www.newsranger.com> wrote:
In article <j2alkvgk0sgn71agf8olcdv5dou2s8aiiq@4ax.com>, Liz says...
snippage
When the monument is finally moved to a private space, how many, do
you think, of the fundy faithful will go and visit it and pray before
it?
Look at all the idiots that flocked to that smeared window at the hospital in
Boston. If they all went running to that mess (and any other smear and/or
tortilla chip that resembles Jesus or the virgin Mary), I'm sure they'll go a
running to the rock :P
But the rock doesn't look like Jesus. :)
Überwench #658 Now a *real* atheist!
Dame Liz the Undaunted BAAWA
Charter Member of SMASH
and Queen of the known universe
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| User: "Thomas P." |
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| Title: Re: Christian Civil Disobedience |
27 Aug 2003 01:08:06 AM |
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On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 23:04:22 GMT, Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote:
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 14:17:20 GMT, Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com>
in news message <QZJ2b.17285$cJ5.1914@www.newsranger.com> wrote:
In article <j2alkvgk0sgn71agf8olcdv5dou2s8aiiq@4ax.com>, Liz says...
snippage
When the monument is finally moved to a private space, how many, do
you think, of the fundy faithful will go and visit it and pray before
it?
Look at all the idiots that flocked to that smeared window at the hospital in
Boston. If they all went running to that mess (and any other smear and/or
tortilla chip that resembles Jesus or the virgin Mary), I'm sure they'll go a
running to the rock :P
But the rock doesn't look like Jesus. :)
Not to you maybe, but you are an atheist and therefore blinded by
Satan. Surely you can understand that.
You probably don't even believe that pigeon's blood cures leprosy.
Überwench #658 Now a *real* atheist!
Dame Liz the Undaunted BAAWA
Charter Member of SMASH
and Queen of the known universe
Thomas P.
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| User: "Liz" |
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| Title: Re: Christian Civil Disobedience |
28 Aug 2003 08:22:18 PM |
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On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 11:35:11 GMT, "Dr. Smartass"
<gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com> in news message
<Xns93E543452472Baskifyouwantit@216.77.188.51> wrote:
Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote in
news:1m2pkv8falh6srglfjuq0bh9ra2qnpg77u@4ax.com:
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 08:08:06 +0200, Thomas P.
<tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,> in news message
<8kiokv4h7d80qg6ef2oc74ipgnc1boqit3@4ax.com> wrote:
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 23:04:22 GMT, Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote:
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But the rock doesn't look like Jesus. :)
Not to you maybe, but you are an atheist and therefore blinded by
Satan. Surely you can understand that.
You probably don't even believe that pigeon's blood cures leprosy.
. . . but . . . but . . . <------ rebuttal
I'm nominating for quote of the month. Seconds? *bahahaha*
But seriously, that was a ...great... rebuttal ;)
I'm so glad that I'm not the only one having fun here. :)
Überwench #658 Now a *real* atheist!
Dame Liz the Undaunted BAAWA
Charter Member of SMASH
and Queen of the known universe
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| User: "Dr. Smartass" |
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| Title: Re: Christian Civil Disobedience |
29 Aug 2003 06:04:54 PM |
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Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote in
news:lu9tkv4akp902kdq4cjd3lc2heqsfetgcv@4ax.com:
On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 11:35:11 GMT, "Dr. Smartass"
<gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com> in news message
<Xns93E543452472Baskifyouwantit@216.77.188.51> wrote:
Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote in
news:1m2pkv8falh6srglfjuq0bh9ra2qnpg77u@4ax.com:
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 08:08:06 +0200, Thomas P.
<tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,> in news message
<8kiokv4h7d80qg6ef2oc74ipgnc1boqit3@4ax.com> wrote:
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 23:04:22 GMT, Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote:
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But the rock doesn't look like Jesus. :)
Not to you maybe, but you are an atheist and therefore blinded by
Satan. Surely you can understand that.
You probably don't even believe that pigeon's blood cures leprosy.
. . . but . . . but . . . <------ rebuttal
I'm nominating for quote of the month. Seconds? *bahahaha*
But seriously, that was a ...great... rebuttal ;)
I'm so glad that I'm not the only one having fun here. :)
I don't debate very well, so Usenet is my playground :D
--
Dr. Smartass
BAAWA Knight of Heckling -- a.a. #1939
"And the knowledge that they fear
Is a weapon to be used against them."
--Rush, "The Weapon"
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| User: "jwk" |
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| Title: Re: Christian Civil Disobedience |
27 Aug 2003 08:02:14 AM |
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Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com> wrote in message news:<hrM2b.17336$cJ5.2143@www.newsranger.com>...
In article <c6f5ba32.0308260604.ce13991@posting.google.com>, jwk says...
johac <jhachm@remove.ixpres.com> wrote in message news:<jhachm-8BF03A.23115025082003@central.giganews.com>...
In article
<nemo0037-CD3029.20031725082003@news06.east.earthlink.net>,
*Nemo* <nemo0037@yahoo.NOSPMPLS.com> wrote:
They're disobeying the law in Montgomery over a chunk of rock. Forcing
the police to drag them away, forcing the authorities to search for an
out-of-town contractor to move the rock, praying day and night to get
God to change the minds of judges....
...praying to change the minds of the judges. As if that would do any
good.
What gets me is this civil disobedience thing. As if they're like the
Blacks in the 50's or the Indians in the 1920's. The thing they don't
seem to realize is that you have to be genuinely oppressed before such
displays make any real impression on people. If there's one thing the
Southern WASP isn't in Alabama, it's "oppressed."
If one goes back and looks at some of the video clips of the civil
rights demonstrations in Mongomery, Selma, and other places in that
State during the '60s, these people are absolutely being treated with
kid gloves. They don't know what 'oppression' is. I wonder if any of
the older ones took part in the attacks on the marchers?
They are only kidding other fundy zealots... and doing a darn fine job
of that. But beyond that circle of people, I'll bet there's very little
sympathy or even interest. I hope the company that finally agrees to
move that chunk of rock drops it. I want to see those idiots get on the
ground and pray for *GAWD!* to put it back together for them.
It would be easier to remove if it were in little pieces. :-)
I offered to carpool with anyone willing to swing a sledge-hammer
before all the fundies encircled it. The offer stands if they ever go
home. There is a court order to remove it. It doesn't say it has to
be in one piece. :)
Wow - Bet that would be even more fun than beating up my daughter's Barbie
pinata at her birthday party last Saturday (after the kids had gotten out all
the candy and prizes, of course) :)
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
Do you have "issues" with Barbie Robyn?
jwk
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