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"J Forbes" |
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02 Jul 2006 01:04:57 PM |
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Christian film's rating worries lawmakers |
from the wire service in today's paper:
http://www.azstarnet.com/news/136169
WASHINGTON - A Christian-themed movie about a football coach's faith
in God is finding an audience in Congress - not so much for its
inspirational message, but for the PG rating it received.
House Majority Whip Roy Blunt, R-Mo., and other lawmakers are demanding
explanations after hearing complaints that the movie "Facing the
Giants" was rated PG instead of G due to religious content.
The Motion Picture Association of America claims the controversy arose
from a miscommunication with the filmmakers. It says religion was not
the reason for the rating.
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This incident raises the disquieting possibility that the MPAA
considers exposure to Christian themes more dangerous for children than
exposure to gratuitous sex and violence," Blunt said in a letter to
MPAA Chairman and Chief Executive Officer Dan Glickman.
After meeting with MPAA officials, Blunt and a handful of other House
members said they remain concerned about the subjective native of the
ratings process.
"I'm not satisfied," said Rep. Marsha Blackburn, R-Tenn., who attended
the meeting with Blunt. "We probably will want to revisit this ratings
process to have some commonality in the standards that exist for
movies, videos and video games."
Blackburn said she wants the House Energy and Commerce Committee to
hold hearings on the issue later this year.
An MPAA spokesman did not return calls seeking comment. But in a letter
to Blunt in June, the MPAA's Glickman insisted the rating for "Facing
the Giants" was not based on religious content.
"Any strong or mature discussion of any subject matter results in at
least a PG rating," Glickman said. "This movie had a mature discussion
about pregnancy, for example. It also had other mature discussions that
some parents might want to be aware of before taking their kids to see
this movie."
A PG rating means parental guidance is suggested because the MPAA
believes some material may not be suitable for children. A G rating
means the MPAA has found the movie acceptable for all audiences.
The film's producers claim ratings officials changed their story after
the dispute began.
"The first communication from the MPAA was that religion was a factor
in the ratings," said
Kris Fuhr, vice president of marketing at Provident Films, which is
owned by Sony Pictures. "Since then, the MPAA has revised those factors
to no longer include religion."
Fuhr says she is now satisfied with the rating and wants to move beyond
the controversy to focus on marketing the film.
Jim
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| User: "L. Raymond" |
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| Title: Re: Christian film's rating worries lawmakers |
02 Jul 2006 02:14:10 PM |
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J Forbes wrote:
from the wire service in today's paper:
http://www.azstarnet.com/news/136169
WASHINGTON - A Christian-themed movie about a football coach's faith
in God is finding an audience in Congress - not so much for its
inspirational message, but for the PG rating it received.
I saw this on the news a week or more ago, including an interview with
the filmmaker. He said he was told at one point that Christian
proselytizing within the movie contributed to the rating, and he was
furious about that, but the interviewer got him to admit he'd want to be
warned if there were a strong pro-Islam message to an otherwise
innocuous film. They're not even trying to hide their hypocrisy any
more.
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L. Raymond
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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| Title: Re: Christian film's rating worries lawmakers |
02 Jul 2006 02:43:29 PM |
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L. Raymond wrote:
J Forbes wrote:
from the wire service in today's paper:
http://www.azstarnet.com/news/136169
WASHINGTON - A Christian-themed movie about a football coach's faith
in God is finding an audience in Congress - not so much for its
inspirational message, but for the PG rating it received.
I saw this on the news a week or more ago, including an interview
with the filmmaker. He said he was told at one point that Christian
proselytizing within the movie contributed to the rating, and he was
furious about that, but the interviewer got him to admit he'd want to
be warned if there were a strong pro-Islam message to an otherwise
innocuous film. They're not even trying to hide their hypocrisy any
more.
You'd think the film industry would support the christians on this.
They could make snuff films with a saved minister in it who preaches the
gospel as he rapes and kills. Based on the religious content it would get a
G rating.
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| User: "L. Raymond" |
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| Title: Re: Christian film's rating worries lawmakers |
02 Jul 2006 06:27:21 PM |
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Mike Painter wrote:
You'd think the film industry would support the christians on this.
They could make snuff films with a saved minister in it who preaches the
gospel as he rapes and kills. Based on the religious content it would get a
G rating.
What would be interesting would be for someone to make a film which
uses the dialogue directly from the bible. It could be a series of
vignettes displaying the various rapes, murders and vicious episodes
without any embellishment at all.
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L. Raymond
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| User: "" |
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03 Jul 2006 03:37:47 PM |
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On Sun, 2 Jul 2006 18:27:21 -0500, "L. Raymond"
<badaddress@mylinuxisp.com> wrote:
Mike Painter wrote:
You'd think the film industry would support the christians on this.
They could make snuff films with a saved minister in it who preaches the
gospel as he rapes and kills. Based on the religious content it would get a
G rating.
What would be interesting would be for someone to make a film which
uses the dialogue directly from the bible. It could be a series of
vignettes displaying the various rapes, murders and vicious episodes
without any embellishment at all.
They have a special insanity for that, as I learned in my childhood
Christian days. It goes like this: Only the inspired understand Gods
word enough to use it. Followed by a spanking. This after they had
made me buy a Bible, trained me to use it, and insisted that I be
quick in quoting it. We even used to have Bible drills, to see who's
fastest in finding a passage.
See, if you are about to win an argument they slap you down and call
you an anti-Christ rebuking you for ignoring their vast outpouring of
love.
So, the only message you are allowed to carry is theirs. It's all in
their forest of twisty little passages, all different. To them I
recommend www.twistys.net
Sunyata
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| User: "Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian" |
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| Title: Re: Christian film's rating worries lawmakers |
02 Jul 2006 08:59:28 PM |
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J Forbes:
House Majority Whip Roy Blunt, R-Mo., and other lawmakers are demanding
explanations after hearing complaints that the movie "Facing the
Giants" was rated PG instead of G due to religious content.
"Argument from persecution" again?
--
"To his friend a man a friend shall prove, and gifts with gifts requite;
But men shall mocking with mockery answer, and fraud with falsehood meet."
(The Poetic Edda)
Must have been written with fundies in mind...
My personal judgment of monotheism:
http://www.carcosa.de/nojebus
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| User: "jay" |
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02 Jul 2006 05:18:44 PM |
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On 2 Jul 2006 11:04:57 -0700, "J Forbes" <jforbspam@fastmail.fm>
wrote:
"This incident raises the disquieting possibility that
the MPAA considers exposure to Christian themes
more dangerous for children than exposure to
gratuitous sex and violence," Blunt said in a letter
to MPAA Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
Dan Glickman.
How do you figure that, Roy? If there had been any
sex or violence in the movie, it would have been
rated PG-13 or higher.
After meeting with MPAA officials, Blunt and a handful
of other House members said they remain concerned
about the subjective native of the ratings process.
That's hysterically funny. The MPAA has, on behalf of
Blount's constituency, been censoring indie cinema for
decades through an entirely subjective process [*] that is
intentionally kept too vague to challenge, and, in 2006,
Blount suddenly becomes interested only when that
same constituencies' ox is gored.
[*] A dozen middle-aged housewives watch the
movie and vote on a rating, majority rules (no kidding).
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Christian film's rating worries lawmakers |
02 Jul 2006 06:12:12 PM |
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Previously, on alt.atheism, J Forbes in episode
<1151863497.328128.267970@v61g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>...
This incident raises the disquieting possibility that the MPAA considers
exposure to Christian themes more dangerous for children than exposure to
gratuitous sex and violence," Blunt said in a letter to MPAA Chairman and
Chief Executive Officer Dan Glickman.
It would be one of the few things the MPAA has done lately that makes
*sense...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
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