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12 Oct 2005 03:45:32 AM |
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Christian group may seek ban on Qur'an |
Christian group may seek ban on Qur'an
http://www.guardian.co.uk/religion/Story/0,2763,1590047,00.html
Stephen Bates and Julian Glover
Wednesday October 12, 2005
The Guardian
A Protestant evangelical pressure group has warned that it will try to
use the government's racial and religious hatred law to prosecute
bookshops selling the Qur'an for inciting religious hatred.
Christian Voice, a fringe fundamentalist group which first came to
public prominence this year when it campaigned against the BBC's
broadcasting of Jerry Springer The Opera, was among the evangelical
organisations taking part in a 1,000-strong demonstration against the
bill outside parliament yesterday as the House of Lords held a second
reading debate on the measure.
Quran
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/d2517ba4f4e709c2
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| User: "Soul food" |
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| Title: Re: Christian group may seek ban on Qur'an |
12 Oct 2005 04:49:58 AM |
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Into alt.atheism shot "maff" <maff91@yahoo.com> and breathlessly
exclaimed:
Christian group may seek ban on Qur'an
http://www.guardian.co.uk/religion/Story/0,2763,1590047,00.html
Stephen Bates and Julian Glover
Wednesday October 12, 2005
The Guardian
A Protestant evangelical pressure group has warned that it will try to
use the government's racial and religious hatred law to prosecute
bookshops selling the Qur'an for inciting religious hatred.
What a bunch of hypocrites. Why are they protesting against the bill?
Oh! Yes! Because "we believe it would impede the preaching of the
Gospel", allthough they have now qualified this by saying "We do not
believe that a law against inciting religious hatred is in the
interests of good relations between faiths and we believe it would
impede the preaching of the Gospel." Well, yes, it will, if they
intend to start prosecuting people for selling the Q'ran.
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"If iron chariots make people immune to God (Judges 1:19), why do Christians drive cars?"
D Silverman FLAHN, SMLAHN
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| User: "JPG" |
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12 Oct 2005 04:24:34 AM |
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On 12 Oct 2005 01:45:32 -0700, "maff" <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote:
Christian group may seek ban on Qur'an
http://www.guardian.co.uk/religion/Story/0,2763,1590047,00.html
Stephen Bates and Julian Glover
Wednesday October 12, 2005
The Guardian
A Protestant evangelical pressure group has warned that it will try to
use the government's racial and religious hatred law to prosecute
bookshops selling the Qur'an for inciting religious hatred.
Christian Voice, a fringe fundamentalist group which first came to
public prominence this year when it campaigned against the BBC's
broadcasting of Jerry Springer The Opera, was among the evangelical
organisations taking part in a 1,000-strong demonstration against the
bill outside parliament yesterday as the House of Lords held a second
reading debate on the measure.
Quran
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/d2517ba4f4e709c2
From the Guardian article:
" Its director, Stephen Green, said the organisation would consider taking out
prosecutions against shops selling the Islamic holy book. He told the Guardian:
"If the Qur'an is not hate speech, I don't know what is. We will report staff
who sell it. Nowhere in the Bible does it say that unbelievers must be killed.""
I'm no expert on the bible, but there are people here who are. I'm sure that
last sentence is wrong and it does say that unbelievers must be killed.
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| User: "soul" |
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12 Oct 2005 05:02:50 AM |
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Into alt.atheism shot JPG <me@privacy.net> and breathlessly exclaimed:
On 12 Oct 2005 01:45:32 -0700, "maff" <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote:
Christian group may seek ban on Qur'an
http://www.guardian.co.uk/religion/Story/0,2763,1590047,00.html
Stephen Bates and Julian Glover
Wednesday October 12, 2005
The Guardian
A Protestant evangelical pressure group has warned that it will try to
use the government's racial and religious hatred law to prosecute
bookshops selling the Qur'an for inciting religious hatred.
Christian Voice, a fringe fundamentalist group which first came to
public prominence this year when it campaigned against the BBC's
broadcasting of Jerry Springer The Opera, was among the evangelical
organisations taking part in a 1,000-strong demonstration against the
bill outside parliament yesterday as the House of Lords held a second
reading debate on the measure.
Quran
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/d2517ba4f4e709c2
From the Guardian article:
" Its director, Stephen Green, said the organisation would consider taking out
prosecutions against shops selling the Islamic holy book. He told the Guardian:
"If the Qur'an is not hate speech, I don't know what is. We will report staff
who sell it. Nowhere in the Bible does it say that unbelievers must be killed.""
I'm no expert on the bible, but there are people here who are. I'm sure that
last sentence is wrong and it does say that unbelievers must be killed.
It depends how you interpret the phrase "Stoned unto death". It could
after all be taken to mean "rewarded with a lifetime's supply of top
grade Moroccan Black", though somehow, I doubt if that is what they
meant.
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"If iron chariots make people immune to God (Judges 1:19), why do Christians drive cars?"
D Silverman FLAHN, SMLAHN
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| User: "Rob Brown" |
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12 Oct 2005 08:25:57 AM |
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"soul food" <cthulhu@soulstogo.com> wrote in message
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Into alt.atheism shot JPG <me@privacy.net> and breathlessly exclaimed:
On 12 Oct 2005 01:45:32 -0700, "maff" <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote:
Christian group may seek ban on Qur'an
http://www.guardian.co.uk/religion/Story/0,2763,1590047,00.html
Stephen Bates and Julian Glover
Wednesday October 12, 2005
The Guardian
A Protestant evangelical pressure group has warned that it will try to
use the government's racial and religious hatred law to prosecute
bookshops selling the Qur'an for inciting religious hatred.
Christian Voice, a fringe fundamentalist group which first came to
public prominence this year when it campaigned against the BBC's
broadcasting of Jerry Springer The Opera, was among the evangelical
organisations taking part in a 1,000-strong demonstration against the
bill outside parliament yesterday as the House of Lords held a second
reading debate on the measure.
Quran
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/d2517ba4f4e709c2
From the Guardian article:
" Its director, Stephen Green, said the organisation would consider taking
out
prosecutions against shops selling the Islamic holy book. He told the
Guardian:
"If the Qur'an is not hate speech, I don't know what is. We will report
staff
who sell it. Nowhere in the Bible does it say that unbelievers must be
killed.""
I'm no expert on the bible, but there are people here who are. I'm sure
that
last sentence is wrong and it does say that unbelievers must be killed.
It depends how you interpret the phrase "Stoned unto death". It could
after all be taken to mean "rewarded with a lifetime's supply of top
grade Moroccan Black", though somehow, I doubt if that is what they
meant.
Some Gems of tolerence from the KJV
Rob Brown
Lev.24
[14] Bring forth him that hath cursed without the camp; and let all that
heard him lay their hands upon his head, and let all the congregation stone
him.
[15] And thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel, saying, Whosoever
curseth his God shall bear his sin.
[16] And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to
death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him: as well the
stranger, as he that is born in the land, when he blasphemeth the name of
the LORD, shall be put to death.
[17] And he that killeth any man shall surely be put to death.
[18] And he that killeth a beast shall make it good; beast for beast.
[19] And if a man cause a blemish in his neighbour; as he hath done, so
shall it be done to him;
[20] Breach for breach, eye for eye, tooth for tooth: as he hath caused a
blemish in a man, so shall it be done to him again.
[21] And he that killeth a beast, he shall restore it: and he that killeth a
man, he shall be put to death.
[22] Ye shall have one manner of law, as well for the stranger, as for one
of your own country: for I am the LORD your God.
[23] And Moses spake to the children of Israel, that they should bring forth
him that had cursed out of the camp, and stone him with stones. And the
children of Israel did as the LORD commanded Moses.
Deut.13
[6] If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or
the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice
thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not
known, thou, nor thy fathers;
[7] Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto
thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the
other end of the earth;
[8] Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall
thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal
him:
[9] But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to
put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.
[10] And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath
sought to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of
the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.
[11] And all Israel shall hear, and fear, and shall do no more any such
wickedness as this is among you.
[12] If thou shalt hear say in one of thy cities, which the LORD thy God
hath given thee to dwell there, saying,
[13] Certain men, the children of Belial, are gone out from among you, and
have withdrawn the inhabitants of their city, saying, Let us go and serve
other gods, which ye have not known;
[14] Then shalt thou inquire, and make search, and ask diligently; and,
behold, if it be truth, and the thing certain, that such abomination is
wrought among you;
[15] Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of
the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle
thereof, with the edge of the sword.
Deut.17
[1] Thou shalt not sacrifice unto the LORD thy God any bullock, or sheep,
wherein is blemish, or any evilfavouredness: for that is an abomination unto
the LORD thy God.
[2] If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy
God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of
the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant,
[3] And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the
sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded;
[4] And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and inquired diligently,
and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is
wrought in Israel:
[5] Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed
that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt
stone them with stones, till they die.
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| User: "wbarwell" |
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12 Oct 2005 04:46:48 PM |
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JPG wrote:
On 12 Oct 2005 01:45:32 -0700, "maff" <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote:
Christian group may seek ban on Qur'an
http://www.guardian.co.uk/religion/Story/0,2763,1590047,00.html
Stephen Bates and Julian Glover
Wednesday October 12, 2005
The Guardian
A Protestant evangelical pressure group has warned that it will
try to use the government's racial and religious hatred law to
prosecute bookshops selling the Qur'an for inciting religious
hatred.
Christian Voice, a fringe fundamentalist group which first came
to public prominence this year when it campaigned against the
BBC's broadcasting of Jerry Springer The Opera, was among the
evangelical organisations taking part in a 1,000-strong
demonstration against the bill outside parliament yesterday as
the House of Lords held a second reading debate on the measure.
Quran
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/d2517ba4f4e709c2
From the Guardian article:
" Its director, Stephen Green, said the organisation would
consider taking out prosecutions against shops selling the
Islamic holy book. He told the Guardian: "If the Qur'an is not
hate speech, I don't know what is. We will report staff who
sell it. Nowhere in the Bible does it say that unbelievers must
be killed.""
I'm no expert on the bible, but there are people here who are.
I'm sure that last sentence is wrong and it does say that
unbelievers must be killed.
Not as such, no. God commands various genocides, and states that
any Israelite abandoning the one true religion for another
must be killed. There is however, no blanket demand to kill
non-believers. Mainly because at the time the OT was written
there would have been no chance of them pulling that off.
However, the Quran most explicitly states idolators must be
killed where ever they can be found.
Quite objectionable.
[9.4] Except those of the idolaters with whom you made an
agreement, then they have not failed you in anything and have
not backed up any one against you, so fulfill their agreement to
the end of their term; surely Allah loves those who are careful
(of their duty).
[9.5] So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the
idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and
besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if
they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave
their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
[9.6] And if one of the idolaters seek protection from you, grant
him protection till he hears the word of Allah, then make him
attain his place of safety; this is because they are a people
who do not know.
--
The official spokesman of the Foxes said
today that investigation into what happened
to the henhouse may be needed.
Cheerful Charlie
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| User: "maff" |
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13 Oct 2005 03:01:34 AM |
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wbarwell wrote:
JPG wrote:
On 12 Oct 2005 01:45:32 -0700, "maff" <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote:
Christian group may seek ban on Qur'an
http://www.guardian.co.uk/religion/Story/0,2763,1590047,00.html
Stephen Bates and Julian Glover
Wednesday October 12, 2005
The Guardian
A Protestant evangelical pressure group has warned that it will
try to use the government's racial and religious hatred law to
prosecute bookshops selling the Qur'an for inciting religious
hatred.
Christian Voice, a fringe fundamentalist group which first came
to public prominence this year when it campaigned against the
BBC's broadcasting of Jerry Springer The Opera, was among the
evangelical organisations taking part in a 1,000-strong
demonstration against the bill outside parliament yesterday as
the House of Lords held a second reading debate on the measure.
Quran
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/d2517ba4f4e709c2
From the Guardian article:
" Its director, Stephen Green, said the organisation would
consider taking out prosecutions against shops selling the
Islamic holy book. He told the Guardian: "If the Qur'an is not
hate speech, I don't know what is. We will report staff who
sell it. Nowhere in the Bible does it say that unbelievers must
be killed.""
I'm no expert on the bible, but there are people here who are.
I'm sure that last sentence is wrong and it does say that
unbelievers must be killed.
Not as such, no. God commands various genocides, and states that
any Israelite abandoning the one true religion for another
must be killed. There is however, no blanket demand to kill
non-believers. Mainly because at the time the OT was written
there would have been no chance of them pulling that off.
However, the Quran most explicitly states idolators must be
killed where ever they can be found.
Quite objectionable.
[9.4] Except those of the idolaters with whom you made an
agreement, then they have not failed you in anything and have
not backed up any one against you, so fulfill their agreement to
the end of their term; surely Allah loves those who are careful
(of their duty).
[9.5] So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the
idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and
besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if
they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave
their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
[9.6] And if one of the idolaters seek protection from you, grant
him protection till he hears the word of Allah, then make him
attain his place of safety; this is because they are a people
who do not know.
Christians outperformed all other religionists combined and then some.
Christian atrocities
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/2b62a1f5e94cbbbd
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/51662c0d0a9a46a3
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The official spokesman of the Foxes said
today that investigation into what happened
to the henhouse may be needed.
Cheerful Charlie
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| User: "Gregory Gadow" |
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12 Oct 2005 08:35:46 AM |
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JPG wrote:
On 12 Oct 2005 01:45:32 -0700, "maff" <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote:
Christian group may seek ban on Qur'an
http://www.guardian.co.uk/religion/Story/0,2763,1590047,00.html
Stephen Bates and Julian Glover
Wednesday October 12, 2005
The Guardian
A Protestant evangelical pressure group has warned that it will try to
use the government's racial and religious hatred law to prosecute
bookshops selling the Qur'an for inciting religious hatred.
Christian Voice, a fringe fundamentalist group which first came to
public prominence this year when it campaigned against the BBC's
broadcasting of Jerry Springer The Opera, was among the evangelical
organisations taking part in a 1,000-strong demonstration against the
bill outside parliament yesterday as the House of Lords held a second
reading debate on the measure.
Quran
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/d2517ba4f4e709c2
From the Guardian article:
" Its director, Stephen Green, said the organisation would consider taking out
prosecutions against shops selling the Islamic holy book. He told the Guardian:
"If the Qur'an is not hate speech, I don't know what is. We will report staff
who sell it. Nowhere in the Bible does it say that unbelievers must be killed.""
I'm no expert on the bible, but there are people here who are. I'm sure that
last sentence is wrong and it does say that unbelievers must be killed.
The Koran does not command that unbelievers be killed; rather, it authorizes force
against "enemies of the faith." Further, the Koran *explicitly prohibits*
persecution or war against Christians and Jews unless they have taken deliberate
steps to become "enemies of the faith." There is nothing that requires attack on
other religions, either.
--
Gregory Gadow
techbear@serv.net
http://www.serv.net/~techbear
"Without faith we might relapse into scientific or rational thinking,
which leads by a slippery slope toward constitutional democracy."
- Robert Anton Wilson
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| User: "wbarwell" |
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12 Oct 2005 04:47:37 PM |
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Gregory Gadow wrote:
JPG wrote:
On 12 Oct 2005 01:45:32 -0700, "maff" <maff91@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Christian group may seek ban on Qur'an
http://www.guardian.co.uk/religion/Story/0,2763,1590047,00.html
Stephen Bates and Julian Glover
Wednesday October 12, 2005
The Guardian
A Protestant evangelical pressure group has warned that it
will try to use the government's racial and religious hatred
law to prosecute bookshops selling the Qur'an for inciting
religious hatred.
Christian Voice, a fringe fundamentalist group which first
came to public prominence this year when it campaigned
against the BBC's broadcasting of Jerry Springer The Opera,
was among the evangelical organisations taking part in a
1,000-strong demonstration against the bill outside
parliament yesterday as the House of Lords held a second
reading debate on the measure.
Quran
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/d2517ba4f4e709c2
From the Guardian article:
" Its director, Stephen Green, said the organisation would
consider taking out prosecutions against shops selling the
Islamic holy book. He told the Guardian: "If the Qur'an is not
hate speech, I don't know what is. We will report staff who
sell it. Nowhere in the Bible does it say that unbelievers
must be killed.""
I'm no expert on the bible, but there are people here who are.
I'm sure that last sentence is wrong and it does say that
unbelievers must be killed.
The Koran does not command that unbelievers be killed; rather,
it authorizes force against "enemies of the faith." Further,
the Koran *explicitly prohibits* persecution or war against
Christians and Jews unless they have taken deliberate steps to
become "enemies of the faith." There is nothing that requires
attack on other religions, either. --
Gregory Gadow
techbear@serv.net
http://www.serv.net/~techbear
[9.4] Except those of the idolaters with whom you made an
agreement, then they have not failed you in anything and have
not backed up any one against you, so fulfill their agreement to
the end of their term; surely Allah loves those who are careful
(of their duty).
[9.5] So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the
idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and
besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if
they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave
their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
[9.6] And if one of the idolaters seek protection from you, grant
him protection till he hears the word of Allah, then make him
attain his place of safety; this is because they are a people
who do not know.
--
The official spokesman of the Foxes said
today that investigation into what happened
to the henhouse may be needed.
Cheerful Charlie
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| User: "Ben Kaufman" |
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13 Oct 2005 12:27:44 AM |
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On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 06:35:46 -0700, Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net> wrote:
JPG wrote:
On 12 Oct 2005 01:45:32 -0700, "maff" <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote:
Christian group may seek ban on Qur'an
http://www.guardian.co.uk/religion/Story/0,2763,1590047,00.html
Stephen Bates and Julian Glover
Wednesday October 12, 2005
The Guardian
A Protestant evangelical pressure group has warned that it will try to
use the government's racial and religious hatred law to prosecute
bookshops selling the Qur'an for inciting religious hatred.
Christian Voice, a fringe fundamentalist group which first came to
public prominence this year when it campaigned against the BBC's
broadcasting of Jerry Springer The Opera, was among the evangelical
organisations taking part in a 1,000-strong demonstration against the
bill outside parliament yesterday as the House of Lords held a second
reading debate on the measure.
Quran
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/d2517ba4f4e709c2
From the Guardian article:
" Its director, Stephen Green, said the organisation would consider taking out
prosecutions against shops selling the Islamic holy book. He told the Guardian:
"If the Qur'an is not hate speech, I don't know what is. We will report staff
who sell it. Nowhere in the Bible does it say that unbelievers must be killed.""
I'm no expert on the bible, but there are people here who are. I'm sure that
last sentence is wrong and it does say that unbelievers must be killed.
The Koran does not command that unbelievers be killed; rather, it authorizes force
against "enemies of the faith." Further, the Koran *explicitly prohibits*
persecution or war against Christians and Jews unless they have taken deliberate
steps to become "enemies of the faith." There is nothing that requires attack on
other religions, either.
I wonder if trying to prohibit the sale of the Quran would make one an enemy of
the faith? ;-) Kind of a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Ben
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13 Oct 2005 07:25:30 PM |
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On 12 Oct 2005 01:45:32 -0700, "maff" <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote:
Christian group may seek ban on Qur'an
http://www.guardian.co.uk/religion/Story/0,2763,1590047,00.html
Stephen Bates and Julian Glover
Wednesday October 12, 2005
The Guardian
A Protestant evangelical pressure group has warned that it will try to
use the government's racial and religious hatred law to prosecute
bookshops selling the Qur'an for inciting religious hatred.
Prosecute those shoppes selling the Bible first.
[]
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Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "AZ Nomad" |
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12 Oct 2005 04:48:51 PM |
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On 12 Oct 2005 01:45:32 -0700, maff <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote:
Christian group may seek ban on Qur'an
http://www.guardian.co.uk/religion/Story/0,2763,1590047,00.html
Stephen Bates and Julian Glover
Wednesday October 12, 2005
The Guardian
A Protestant evangelical pressure group has warned that it will try to
use the government's racial and religious hatred law to prosecute
bookshops selling the Qur'an for inciting religious hatred.
As opposed to the christian bible inciting religious hatred?
Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!
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| User: "wbarwell" |
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12 Oct 2005 04:36:39 PM |
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maff wrote:
Christian group may seek ban on Qur'an
http://www.guardian.co.uk/religion/Story/0,2763,1590047,00.html
Stephen Bates and Julian Glover
Wednesday October 12, 2005
The Guardian
A Protestant evangelical pressure group has warned that it will
try to use the government's racial and religious hatred law to
prosecute bookshops selling the Qur'an for inciting religious
hatred.
Christian Voice, a fringe fundamentalist group which first came
to public prominence this year when it campaigned against the
BBC's broadcasting of Jerry Springer The Opera, was among the
evangelical organisations taking part in a 1,000-strong
demonstration against the bill outside parliament yesterday as
the House of Lords held a second reading debate on the measure.
Quran
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/d2517ba4f4e709c2
Bwhahahahah!
Good for them. It would be nice to see that every
Quran sold in Britain had to be a bowdlerized version.
--
The official spokesman of the Foxes said
today that investigation into what happened
to the henhouse may be needed.
Cheerful Charlie
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| User: "cirejcon" |
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12 Oct 2005 09:02:46 AM |
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maff wrote:
Christian group may seek ban on Qur'an
http://www.guardian.co.uk/religion/Story/0,2763,1590047,00.html
Stephen Bates and Julian Glover
Wednesday October 12, 2005
The Guardian
A Protestant evangelical pressure group has warned that it will try to
use the government's racial and religious hatred law to prosecute
bookshops selling the Qur'an for inciting religious hatred.
These people have obviously never read the Bible.
-jc
Christian Voice, a fringe fundamentalist group which first came to
public prominence this year when it campaigned against the BBC's
broadcasting of Jerry Springer The Opera, was among the evangelical
organisations taking part in a 1,000-strong demonstration against the
bill outside parliament yesterday as the House of Lords held a second
reading debate on the measure.
Quran
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/d2517ba4f4e709c2
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| User: "Robi" |
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12 Oct 2005 04:18:47 AM |
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maff wrote:
Christian group may seek ban on Qur'an
http://www.guardian.co.uk/religion/Story/0,2763,1590047,00.html
Stephen Bates and Julian Glover
Wednesday October 12, 2005
The Guardian
A Protestant evangelical pressure group has warned that it will try to
use the government's racial and religious hatred law to prosecute
bookshops selling the Qur'an for inciting religious hatred.
Christian Voice, a fringe fundamentalist group which first came to
public prominence this year when it campaigned against the BBC's
broadcasting of Jerry Springer The Opera, was among the evangelical
organisations taking part in a 1,000-strong demonstration against the
bill outside parliament yesterday as the House of Lords held a second
reading debate on the measure.
Quran
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/d2517ba4f4e709c2
LOL excellent. I missed that story, thank you.
I hope they succeed. That would give us precedent for prosecuting the
bookstores that sell the bible.
I wasn't in favour of that bill. I am now.
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| User: "Soul food" |
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12 Oct 2005 04:52:01 AM |
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Into alt.atheism shot "Robi" <robi_tola@hotmail.com> and breathlessly
exclaimed:
maff wrote:
Christian group may seek ban on Qur'an
http://www.guardian.co.uk/religion/Story/0,2763,1590047,00.html
Stephen Bates and Julian Glover
Wednesday October 12, 2005
The Guardian
A Protestant evangelical pressure group has warned that it will try to
use the government's racial and religious hatred law to prosecute
bookshops selling the Qur'an for inciting religious hatred.
Christian Voice, a fringe fundamentalist group which first came to
public prominence this year when it campaigned against the BBC's
broadcasting of Jerry Springer The Opera, was among the evangelical
organisations taking part in a 1,000-strong demonstration against the
bill outside parliament yesterday as the House of Lords held a second
reading debate on the measure.
Quran
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/d2517ba4f4e709c2
LOL excellent. I missed that story, thank you.
I hope they succeed. That would give us precedent for prosecuting the
bookstores that sell the bible.
I wasn't in favour of that bill. I am now.
Now you know why I always was. The exact wording is "..stirring up
hatred on the grounds of religion" - whose religion, the victim or the
offender?
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"If iron chariots make people immune to God (Judges 1:19), why do Christians drive cars?"
D Silverman FLAHN, SMLAHN
AA #2208
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| User: "Ben Kaufman" |
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13 Oct 2005 12:23:20 AM |
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On 12 Oct 2005 02:18:47 -0700, "Robi" <robi_tola@hotmail.com> wrote:
maff wrote:
Christian group may seek ban on Qur'an
http://www.guardian.co.uk/religion/Story/0,2763,1590047,00.html
Stephen Bates and Julian Glover
Wednesday October 12, 2005
The Guardian
A Protestant evangelical pressure group has warned that it will try to
use the government's racial and religious hatred law to prosecute
bookshops selling the Qur'an for inciting religious hatred.
Christian Voice, a fringe fundamentalist group which first came to
public prominence this year when it campaigned against the BBC's
broadcasting of Jerry Springer The Opera, was among the evangelical
organisations taking part in a 1,000-strong demonstration against the
bill outside parliament yesterday as the House of Lords held a second
reading debate on the measure.
Quran
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/d2517ba4f4e709c2
LOL excellent. I missed that story, thank you.
I hope they succeed. That would give us precedent for prosecuting the
bookstores that sell the bible.
I wasn't in favour of that bill. I am now.
Why would anyone buy bull in a book store? :-)
Ben
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| User: "stoney" |
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14 Oct 2005 04:25:23 PM |
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On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 01:23:20 -0400, Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:
On 12 Oct 2005 02:18:47 -0700, "Robi" <robi_tola@hotmail.com> wrote:
maff wrote:
Christian group may seek ban on Qur'an
http://www.guardian.co.uk/religion/Story/0,2763,1590047,00.html
Stephen Bates and Julian Glover
Wednesday October 12, 2005
The Guardian
A Protestant evangelical pressure group has warned that it will try to
use the government's racial and religious hatred law to prosecute
bookshops selling the Qur'an for inciting religious hatred.
Christian Voice, a fringe fundamentalist group which first came to
public prominence this year when it campaigned against the BBC's
broadcasting of Jerry Springer The Opera, was among the evangelical
organisations taking part in a 1,000-strong demonstration against the
bill outside parliament yesterday as the House of Lords held a second
reading debate on the measure.
Quran
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/d2517ba4f4e709c2
LOL excellent. I missed that story, thank you.
I hope they succeed. That would give us precedent for prosecuting the
bookstores that sell the bible.
I wasn't in favour of that bill. I am now.
Why would anyone buy bull in a book store? :-)
YEAH! Tis better bought in a china shoppe.....
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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