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User: "Fredric L. Rice"
Date: 16 Sep 2005 09:16:40 PM
Object: Christian Groups Unite Against White Supremists
http://la.indymedia.org/news/2005/09/135442.php
There _are_ Christian groups that oppose their white supremist
fellow Christians. A coalition of churches and other groups are
unifying to march against the Christian white supremist hate
mongers "Aryan Nations," "National Vanguard," "National Alliance,"
"Save Our State," "Minutemen," and the odd Skinhead.
Go get 'em! Racist scumbags need to be opposed and exposed.
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User: "JTEM"

Title: Re: Christian Groups Unite Against White Supremists 17 Sep 2005 04:29:03 AM
"Fredric L. Rice" <FRice@SkepticTank.ORG> wrote

There _are_ Christian groups that oppose their white supremist
fellow Christians.

I disagree. I know what opposition -- REAL opposition -- looks
like, and this ain't it.
Not to repeat myself, but seriously, dude. Boycotts aren't going
far enough when "Christians" oppose something. Entire
multi billion dollar opposition industries aren't going far
enough. Not for "Christians" anyway. Even passing new laws
and amending constitutions isn't going too far. Not when
so-called "Christians" oppose something.
Just ask any two gay men trying to take legal & financial
responsibility for each other. Believe me, they'll tell you
EXACTLY what "Christian" opposition looks like...
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User: "Bret Ludwig"

Title: Re: Christian Groups Unite Against White Supremists 17 Sep 2005 03:09:37 PM

You've got a problem on your hands. The creeps in the KKK and many a

'skin-head' truly *believe* they are Christians and nothing you nor
anyone
else is going to convince them otherwise. You can berate them until
you're
blue in the face. It won't change a thing, dude. You are going to have
just
as
difficult a time trying to convince a 'Neo-Nazi' who believes he is a
Christian
that he's 'really' not, as an atheist does when trying to convince a
Christian
that *their* belief-system is pure BS. No one in their right mind can
believe
they are a Christian and yet *hate* Jews (Jesus and all of the apostles
were
Jews. Even 'God' was Jewish, wasn't he?). But it's done all the time.
Is
that
irrational? You bet it is. But isn't steadfastly believing that Jesus
was
God,
himself, and a 'Holy Ghost,' just as irrational? So deal with it. If a
Neo-Nazi
truly believes he's a Christian and 'accepted Jesus into his heart,'
who are
you to tell him different? His 'faith' would be just as strong as
yours,
would it
not? That would make him (or her) a 'Christian.' (As opposed to a
Buddhist.)
Greywolf <<
The KKK and several "Identity Christian" outfits indeed do fancy
themselves Christian, but the National Alliance and their spinoffs do
not. There is nothing Christian about the National Alliance. They
believe Christianity is un-Aryan, un-White, and destructive to White
European values. Pantheism, which Pierce called Cosmotheism, and
Odinism or classical pagan polytheism, are in the view of the NA far
more conducive to White society.
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User: "AngelFightFire"

Title: Re: Christian Groups Unite Against White Supremists 17 Sep 2005 02:55:01 AM
Christians have always been the main fighters against Neo-Nazis. We did
it in the war, and we continue to do it today. Neo-Nazis have always
hated first the Jew, then the Christian.
Anybody that says a Neo-Nazi is a "Christian" is a liar. Whether it is
the Neo-Nazi who claims to be - to defame the pure teaching of Christ,
and therefore God - or whether it is someone who claims that their lie
is true -- that Neo-Nazis could ever be Christian. The two liars work
hand in hand towards the same cause, even if they both claim to be
enemies.
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User: "JTEM"

Title: Re: Christian Groups Unite Against White Supremists 17 Sep 2005 03:40:10 AM
"AngelFightFire" <angelfightfire@gmail.com> wrote

Christians have always been the main fighters against
Neo-Nazis.

Cites, please.
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User: "Greywolf"

Title: Re: Christian Groups Unite Against White Supremists 17 Sep 2005 07:55:43 AM
"AngelFightFire" <angelfightfire@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1126943701.248001.140840@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...

Christians have always been the main fighters against Neo-Nazis. We did
it in the war, and we continue to do it today. Neo-Nazis have always
hated first the Jew, then the Christian.

Anybody that says a Neo-Nazi is a "Christian" is a liar. Whether it is
the Neo-Nazi who claims to be - to defame the pure teaching of Christ,
and therefore God - or whether it is someone who claims that their lie
is true -- that Neo-Nazis could ever be Christian. The two liars work
hand in hand towards the same cause, even if they both claim to be
enemies.


You've got a problem on your hands. The creeps in the KKK and many a
'skin-head' truly *believe* they are Christians and nothing you nor anyone
else is going to convince them otherwise. You can berate them until you're
blue in the face. It won't change a thing, dude. You are going to have just
as
difficult a time trying to convince a 'Neo-Nazi' who believes he is a
Christian
that he's 'really' not, as an atheist does when trying to convince a
Christian
that *their* belief-system is pure BS. No one in their right mind can
believe
they are a Christian and yet *hate* Jews (Jesus and all of the apostles were
Jews. Even 'God' was Jewish, wasn't he?). But it's done all the time. Is
that
irrational? You bet it is. But isn't steadfastly believing that Jesus was
God,
himself, and a 'Holy Ghost,' just as irrational? So deal with it. If a
Neo-Nazi
truly believes he's a Christian and 'accepted Jesus into his heart,' who are
you to tell him different? His 'faith' would be just as strong as yours,
would it
not? That would make him (or her) a 'Christian.' (As opposed to a Buddhist.)
Greywolf
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User: "Christopher A. Lee"

Title: Re: Christian Groups Unite Against White Supremists 17 Sep 2005 09:32:35 AM
On Sat, 17 Sep 2005 07:55:43 -0500, "Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com>
wrote:


"AngelFightFire" <angelfightfire@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1126943701.248001.140840@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...

Christians have always been the main fighters against Neo-Nazis. We did
it in the war, and we continue to do it today. Neo-Nazis have always
hated first the Jew, then the Christian.

Anybody that says a Neo-Nazi is a "Christian" is a liar. Whether it is
the Neo-Nazi who claims to be - to defame the pure teaching of Christ,
and therefore God - or whether it is someone who claims that their lie
is true -- that Neo-Nazis could ever be Christian. The two liars work
hand in hand towards the same cause, even if they both claim to be
enemies.

You've got a problem on your hands. The creeps in the KKK and many a
'skin-head' truly *believe* they are Christians and nothing you nor anyone
else is going to convince them otherwise. You can berate them until you're

They have religious justification from Christianity and the Bible:
what do you imagine was behind nearly 2,000 years of blood-libel
against Jews as Christ-killers?
Was Martin Luther a Christian?
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/luther-jews.html
"I had made up my mind to write no more either about the Jews or
against them. But since I learned that these miserable and accursed
people do not cease to lure to themselves even us, that is, the
Christians, I have published this little book, so that I might be
found among those who opposed such poisonous activities of the Jews
who warned the Christians to be on their guard against them. I would
not have believed that a Christian could be duped by the Jews into
taking their exile and wretchedness upon himself. However, the devil
is the god of the world, and wherever God's word is absent"
"Therefore the blind Jews are truly stupid fools"
"Now just behold these miserable, blind, and senseless people"
"...their blindness and arrogance are as solid as an iron mountain. "
"Learn from this, dear Christian, what you are doing if you permit the
blind Jews to mislead you. Then the saying will truly apply, "When a
blind man leads a blind man, both will fall into the pit" [cf. Luke
6:39]. You cannot learn anything from them except how to
misunderstand the divine commandments... "
"Therefore be on your guard against the Jews, knowing that wherever
they have their synagogues, nothing is found but a den of devils in
which sheer self-glory, conceit, lies, blasphemy, and defaming of God
and men are practiced most maliciously and veheming his eyes on
them."
While these vicious slanders were against the Jews a few hundred years
ago, BY ONE OF THE FOUNDERS OR PROTESTANTISM, the are little different
than today's vicious slanders against atheists by evangelicals,
fundamentalists and their leaders.
They are outright lies and nastiness. And the liars who spew them
imagine that any reaction is bigotry and hatred.
Wasn't there something about beams, motes and eyes?
However they don't go as far as the following any more. At least, not
since the holocaust (again from Martin Luther)....
"What shall we Christians do with this rejected and condemned people,
the Jews? Since they live among us, we dare not tolerate their
conduct, now that we are aware of their lying and reviling and
blaspheming. If we do, we become sharers in their lies, cursing and
blasphemy. Thus we cannot extinguish the unquenchable fire of divine
wrath, of which the prophets speak, nor can we convert the Jews. With
prayer and the fear of God we must practice a sharp mercy to see
whether we might save at least a few from the glowing flames. We dare
not avenge ourselves. Vengeance a thousand times worse than we could
wish them already has them by the throat. I shall give you my sincere
advice:
"First to set fire to their synagogues or schools and to bury and
cover with dirt whatever will not burn, so that no man will ever
again see a stone or cinder of them. This is to be done in honor of
our Lord and of Christendom, so that God might see that we are
Christians, and do not condone or knowingly tolerate such public
lying, cursing, and blaspheming of his Son and of his Christians. For
whatever we tolerated in the past unknowingly - and I myself was
unaware of it - will be pardoned by God. But if we, now that we are
informed, were to protect and shield such a house for the Jews,
existing right before our very nose, in which they lie about,
blaspheme, curse, vilify, and defame Christ and us (as was heard
above), it would be the same as if we were doing all this and even
worse ourselves, as we very well know.
"Second, I advise that their houses also be razed and destroyed. For
they pursue in them the same aims as in their synagogues. Instead
they might be lodged under a roof or in a barn, like the gypsies.
This will bring home to them that they are not masters in our
country, as they boast, but that they are living in exile and in
captivity, as they incessantly wail and lament about us before God.
"Third, I advise that all their prayer books and Talmudic writings, in
which such idolatry, lies, cursing and blasphemy are taught, be taken
from them. (remainder omitted)
"Fourth, I advise that their rabbis be forbidden to teach henceforth
on pain of loss of life and limb. For they have justly forfeited the
right to such an office by holding the poor Jews captive with the
saying of Moses (Deuteronomy 17 [:10 ff.]) in which he commands them
to obey their teachers on penalty of death, although Moses clearly
adds: "what they teach you in accord with the law of the Lord."
Those villains ignore that. They wantonly employ the poor people's
obedience contrary to the law of the Lord and infuse them with this
poison, cursing, and blasphemy. In the same way the pope also held us
captive with the declaration in Matthew 16 {:18], "You are Peter,"
etc, inducing us to believe all the lies and deceptions that issued
from his devilish mind. He did not teach in accord with the word of
God, and therefore he forfeited the right to teach.
"Fifth, I advise that safe-conduct on the highways be abolished
completely for the Jews. For they have no business in the
countryside, since they are not lords, officials, tradesmen, or the
like. Let they stay at home. (...remainder omitted).
"Sixth, I advise that usury be prohibited to them, and that all cash
and treasure of silver and gold be taken from them and put aside for
safekeeping. The reason for such a measure is that, as said above,
they have no other means of earning a livelihood than usury, and by
it they have stolen and robbed from us all they possess. Such money
should now be used in no other way than the following: Whenever a Jew
is sincerely converted, he should be handed one hundred, two hundred,
or three hundred florins, as personal circumstances may suggest. With
this he could set himself up in some occupation for the support of
his poor wife and children, and the maintenance of the old or feeble.
For such evil gains are cursed if they are not put to use with God's
blessing in a good and worthy cause.
"Seventh, I commend putting a flail, an ax, a *****, a spade, a distaff,
or a spindle into the hands of young, strong Jews and Jewesses and
letting them earn their bread in the sweat of their brow, as was
imposed on the children of Adam (Gen 3[:19]}. For it is not fitting
that they should let us accursed Goyim toil in the sweat of our faces
while they, the holy people, idle away their time behind the stove,
feasting and farting, and on top of all, boasting blasphemously of
their lordship over the Christians by means of our sweat. No, one
should toss out these lazy rogues by the seat of their pants.
Or the early church:
http://www.flholocaustmuseum.org/history_wing/antisemitism/roman_empire.cfm
"In the early fourth century C.E., the Emperor Constantine declared
Christianity the state religion of the empire. Christianity was
deemed the only religion; Jews were required to convert. When Jews
refused to convert, they were excluded from citizenship and regarded
as outcasts or pariahs in league with the Devil."
"It is because you killed Christ. It is because you stretched out your
hand against the Lord. It is because you shed the precious blood,
that there is now no restoration, no mercy anymore and no defense.
Long ago your audacity was directed against [God’s] servants, against
Moses, Isaiah and Jeremiah. If there was wickedness then, as yet the
worst of all crimes had not been dared. But now you have eclipsed
everything in the past and through your madness against Christ you
have committed the ultimate transgression. This is why you are being
punished worse now than in the past. . . if this were not the case
God would not have turned his back on you so completely. . . . But if
it appears that he has utterly abandoned you, it is evident from this
anger and abandonment that He is showing even to the most shameless
that the One who was murdered was not a common lawbreaker, but was
the very lawgiver Himself, and the Cause, present among us, of
innumerable blessings. Thus you who have sinned against Him are in a
state of dishonor and disgrace, while we who worship Him, though we
once were less honored than any of you [that is, as gentile pagans],
are now established through the grace of God in a more respected
position." - St. Chrysostum the "Good"
The writings of both Catholic and Protestant church fathers led to a
climate in which Jews were persecuted by Christians, for Christian
reasons for the best part of two millennia.
This was part and parcel of Christianity and Christian culture for all
that time. more than fifteen centuries.
The holocaust was the culmination of this, and not the isolated event
Christians in denial like to pretend.
It took the then Pope, to issue a ruling (Vatican II AFAIR) that
exonerated the Jews for killing Christ.
At the time I thought it remarkably presumptuous and arrogant of him
because it was addressed to the Jews, for whom Christ wasn't even part
of their religion let alone somebody they killed.
But later I realised the intended audience were anti-Semitic
Catholics.

blue in the face. It won't change a thing, dude. You are going to have just
as
difficult a time trying to convince a 'Neo-Nazi' who believes he is a
Christian
that he's 'really' not, as an atheist does when trying to convince a
Christian

Except that the majority of atheists don't do that. They do however
respond when a Christian is so out of touch with reality he talks AT
them as though Jesus/God/etc were universally granted to be real. Or
when they treat atheists according to the first few Martin Luther
quotes I gave.

that *their* belief-system is pure BS. No one in their right mind can
believe
they are a Christian and yet *hate* Jews (Jesus and all of the apostles were
Jews. Even 'God' was Jewish, wasn't he?). But it's done all the time. Is

If they believe in the death and resurrection then of course they can.
The NT has the Jews "admitting" his death is on their hands and those
of their descendants.
But then nobody in their right mind can believe in the virgin birth,
the resurrection etc.
So the question is moot.

that
irrational? You bet it is. But isn't steadfastly believing that Jesus was
God,
himself, and a 'Holy Ghost,' just as irrational? So deal with it. If a
Neo-Nazi
truly believes he's a Christian and 'accepted Jesus into his heart,' who are
you to tell him different? His 'faith' would be just as strong as yours,
would it
not? That would make him (or her) a 'Christian.' (As opposed to a Buddhist.)

According to everybody but those in denial who have redefined
Christian from being a member of a religion that believes in Christ
as its god, to doing what they imagine Christ did.
While at the same time being sanctimoniously nasty, lying hypocrites
every time they slander atheists, scientists etc.

Greywolf

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User: "Fredric L. Rice"

Title: Re: Christian Groups Unite Against White Supremists 17 Sep 2005 09:08:46 AM
"AngelFightFire" <angelfightfire@gmail.com> wrote:

Christians have always been the main fighters against Neo-Nazis.

It may surprise you to learn that the majority of Christianity
officially supported, defended, and applauded Adolf Hitler. It
may also surprise you that Adolf himself was a Christian.
No, it's been the minority of Christianity that has opposed
fascism, sadly. Histr\orically it's because the Authoritarian
and Totalitarian aspects of both are shared.
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User: ""

Title: Re: Christian Groups Unite Against White Supremists 19 Sep 2005 02:36:44 AM
AngelFightFire wrote:

Christians have always been the main fighters against Neo-Nazis. We did
it in the war, and we continue to do it today. Neo-Nazis have always
hated first the Jew, then the Christian.

Anybody that says a Neo-Nazi is a "Christian" is a liar. Whether it is
the Neo-Nazi who claims to be - to defame the pure teaching of Christ,
and therefore God - or whether it is someone who claims that their lie
is true -- that Neo-Nazis could ever be Christian. The two liars work
hand in hand towards the same cause, even if they both claim to be
enemies.

Do you enjoy displaying your ignorance in public? A xian
is anyone who believes there was a jeebus and that said
jeebus was the "son of god".
That means catholics, fundy xians, the nazis and neo-nazis,
the KKK, the mormons the unification church (moonies) and
the "children of god" (who advocate sex with children) are
all xians.
Clean up your own religion before you call someone else's
views "dirty".
Bob Dog
Atheist #153 = 1^3 + 5^3 + 3^3
EAC's chief cook and brainwasher
-----
"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work
within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."
- Claire Wolfe
"I disagree with the second part."
- Detective Somerset of "Se7en", paraphrased
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User: "Christopher A. Lee"

Title: Re: Christian Groups Unite Against White Supremists 17 Sep 2005 06:43:30 AM
On 17 Sep 2005 00:55:01 -0700, "AngelFightFire"
<angelfightfire@gmail.com> wrote:

Christians have always been the main fighters against Neo-Nazis. We did
it in the war, and we continue to do it today. Neo-Nazis have always
hated first the Jew, then the Christian.

Liar.

Anybody that says a Neo-Nazi is a "Christian" is a liar. Whether it is

Anybody says that is a liar.
The Nazis were the culmination of two millennia of blood libel against
the Jews as Christ-killers and because they wouldn't renounce their
faith and convert.
And here's a clue: you obviously need one: it is _only_ Christians
who would call Jews Christ-killers.

the Neo-Nazi who claims to be - to defame the pure teaching of Christ,
and therefore God - or whether it is someone who claims that their lie
is true -- that Neo-Nazis could ever be Christian. The two liars work
hand in hand towards the same cause, even if they both claim to be
enemies.

Anybody who is in denial about Cristianity's bloody history, and its
bigotry against those who aren't interested in their religion, is a
liar. Including you.
Or were God and Christ the dishonest liars you are trying to emulate?
And nobody is "defaming the pure teaching of Christ" outside your
paranoid fantasies because nobody would give a ***** about your
religion if you kept it to yourself.
But you don't. You impose it. You use it to justify your bigotry
against non-Christians. You go on the attack and lie about people who
know its history.


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User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Christian Groups Unite Against White Supremists 20 Sep 2005 12:36:00 PM
On 17 Sep 2005 00:55:01 -0700, "AngelFightFire"
<angelfightfire@gmail.com> wrote:

Christians have always been the main fighters against Neo-Nazis. We did
it in the war, and we continue to do it today. Neo-Nazis have always
hated first the Jew, then the Christian.

Neo-Nazis are christians.

Anybody that says a Neo-Nazi is a "Christian" is a liar.

Enjoy your eternal burn session, oh bearer of false witness.

Whether it is
the Neo-Nazi who claims to be - to defame the pure teaching of Christ,
and therefore God - or whether it is someone who claims that their lie
is true -- that Neo-Nazis could ever be Christian. The two liars work
hand in hand towards the same cause, even if they both claim to be
enemies.



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Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
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"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
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User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Christian Groups Unite Against White Supremists 20 Sep 2005 12:35:00 PM
On Sat, 17 Sep 2005 02:16:40 GMT,
(Fredric L.
Rice) wrote:

http://la.indymedia.org/news/2005/09/135442.php

There _are_ Christian groups that oppose their white supremist
fellow Christians. A coalition of churches and other groups are
unifying to march against the Christian white supremist hate
mongers "Aryan Nations," "National Vanguard," "National Alliance,"
"Save Our State," "Minutemen," and the odd Skinhead.

Go get 'em! Racist scumbags need to be opposed and exposed.

Standing ovation for those Christians.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
.
User: "Fredric L. Rice"

Title: Re: Christian Groups Unite Against White Supremists 20 Sep 2005 07:10:18 PM
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

On Sat, 17 Sep 2005 02:16:40 GMT,

(Fredric L. Rice) wrote:

http://la.indymedia.org/news/2005/09/135442.php
There _are_ Christian groups that oppose their white supremist
fellow Christians. A coalition of churches and other groups are
unifying to march against the Christian white supremist hate
mongers "Aryan Nations," "National Vanguard," "National Alliance,"
"Save Our State," "Minutemen," and the odd Skinhead.
Go get 'em! Racist scumbags need to be opposed and exposed.

Standing ovation for those Christians.

They did a number on a race hate rally in New York, also.
Finally some Christians with GUTS!
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User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Christian Groups Unite Against White Supremists 21 Sep 2005 06:41:47 PM
On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 00:10:18 GMT,
(Fredric L.
Rice) wrote:

stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

On Sat, 17 Sep 2005 02:16:40 GMT,

(Fredric L. Rice) wrote:

http://la.indymedia.org/news/2005/09/135442.php
There _are_ Christian groups that oppose their white supremist
fellow Christians. A coalition of churches and other groups are
unifying to march against the Christian white supremist hate
mongers "Aryan Nations," "National Vanguard," "National Alliance,"
"Save Our State," "Minutemen," and the odd Skinhead.
Go get 'em! Racist scumbags need to be opposed and exposed.

Standing ovation for those Christians.


They did a number on a race hate rally in New York, also.

Finally some Christians with GUTS!

Well, Hot Damn! :)
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
.
User: "Fredric L. Rice"

Title: Re: Christian Groups Unite Against White Supremists 21 Sep 2005 09:27:04 PM
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 00:10:18 GMT,

(Fredric L. Rice) wrote:

They did a number on a race hate rally in New York, also.
Finally some Christians with GUTS!

Well, Hot Damn! :)

Actualy I've been reading about this Ithica Catholic Workers organization
and I see that they're actually denouncing their fellow Christian's war
crimes, hatred of gays, blacks, and women.
There's another news article here in my stack I'll have to post -- though
I need to be more careful with the URLs.
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http://www.rightard.org/ http://www.thedarkwind.org/
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