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"Les Hellawell" |
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19 Dec 2004 09:40:34 AM |
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Christianity almost dead in UK's Cities |
According to a BBC report church attendances at "Christmas" in the
big cities barely rises
Manchester, which has always had a reputation for ' free thinking'
radicalism has the fewest church goers with less the 2% attending
church at Christmas Eve. Hereford once a major nest of Christianity
with a fine medieval Cathedral has the highest numbers with less
than 1 in 10 attending
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4107927.stm
Interesting comment by LJS from Stockport against the moaning
from the others.
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Les Hellawell
greetings from
YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County
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| User: "Sean C" |
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| Title: Re: Christianity almost dead in UK's Cities |
19 Dec 2004 12:53:33 PM |
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In article <o57bs0tcdlib1mj80e2ijl6cms93mcdnqf@4ax.com>, Les Hellawell
<myshredder@leswell.freeuk.com> wrote:
According to a BBC report church attendances at "Christmas" in the
big cities barely rises
Manchester, which has always had a reputation for ' free thinking'
radicalism has the fewest church goers with less the 2% attending
church at Christmas Eve. Hereford once a major nest of Christianity
with a fine medieval Cathedral has the highest numbers with less
than 1 in 10 attending
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4107927.stm
Interesting comment by LJS from Stockport against the moaning
from the others.
Yes, but is the influence of Christianity dead? Judging from the debate
over euthanasia, heroin maintenance and drug-legalization in general,
Christianity is alive and well in the UK if viewed by its power, if not
its adherents. Even a US state has managed to adopt an assisted suicide
law, in the face of determined Christian opposition. Why not the UK?
Sean C
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| User: "Les Hellawell" |
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| Title: Re: Christianity almost dead in UK's Cities |
19 Dec 2004 01:16:23 PM |
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On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 13:53:33 -0500, Sean C
<redhawk@/burnspammersalive/hvc.rr.com> wrote:
In article <o57bs0tcdlib1mj80e2ijl6cms93mcdnqf@4ax.com>, Les Hellawell
<myshredder@leswell.freeuk.com> wrote:
According to a BBC report church attendances at "Christmas" in the
big cities barely rises
Manchester, which has always had a reputation for ' free thinking'
radicalism has the fewest church goers with less the 2% attending
church at Christmas Eve. Hereford once a major nest of Christianity
with a fine medieval Cathedral has the highest numbers with less
than 1 in 10 attending
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4107927.stm
Interesting comment by LJS from Stockport against the moaning
from the others.
Yes, but is the influence of Christianity dead?
It is with me yes and pays no part in the lives of most people
?Judging from the debate
over euthanasia, heroin maintenance and drug-legalization in general,
Christianity is alive and well in the UK if viewed by its power, if not
its adherents. Even a US state has managed to adopt an assisted suicide
law, in the face of determined Christian opposition. Why not the UK?
What has assisted suicide got to do with religion unless the
person contemplating it is religious?
Don't bother answering please I am not interested in religious
interpretation of things, Decisions about whether to end ones
life is a matter for the individual contemplating it not me, but they
do need protecting against those who might try to pressurise
someone to end their lives for whatever motive noble or
ignoble. Thus an old person might consider suicide because
they perceive they are a burden. This has been our sticking
point thus far, a desire to protect them against such pressure
imagined or real. It is not an easy one to decide so we
struggle to come to one. On a matter like this incidentally
it would tend not to be decided on party political grounds but
a matter for each MP's own consciences.
--
Les Hellawell
greetings from
YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County
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| User: "kathryn" |
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| Title: Re: Christianity almost dead in UK's Cities |
20 Dec 2004 08:18:25 AM |
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"Les Hellawell" <myshredder@leswell.freeuk.com> wrote in message
news:0qjbs0poohqqt4rcev72n5sn7nt7sfi1rk@4ax.com...
On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 13:53:33 -0500, Sean C
<redhawk@/burnspammersalive/hvc.rr.com> wrote:
In article <o57bs0tcdlib1mj80e2ijl6cms93mcdnqf@4ax.com>, Les Hellawell
<myshredder@leswell.freeuk.com> wrote:
According to a BBC report church attendances at "Christmas" in the
big cities barely rises
Manchester, which has always had a reputation for ' free thinking'
radicalism has the fewest church goers with less the 2% attending
church at Christmas Eve. Hereford once a major nest of Christianity
with a fine medieval Cathedral has the highest numbers with less
than 1 in 10 attending
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4107927.stm
Interesting comment by LJS from Stockport against the moaning
from the others.
Yes, but is the influence of Christianity dead?
It is with me yes and pays no part in the lives of most people
?Judging from the debate
over euthanasia, heroin maintenance and drug-legalization in general,
Christianity is alive and well in the UK if viewed by its power, if not
its adherents. Even a US state has managed to adopt an assisted suicide
law, in the face of determined Christian opposition. Why not the UK?
What has assisted suicide got to do with religion unless the
person contemplating it is religious?
Don't bother answering please I am not interested in religious
interpretation of things, Decisions about whether to end ones
life is a matter for the individual contemplating it not me, but they
do need protecting against those who might try to pressurise
someone to end their lives for whatever motive noble or
ignoble. Thus an old person might consider suicide because
they perceive they are a burden. This has been our sticking
point thus far, a desire to protect them against such pressure
imagined or real. It is not an easy one to decide so we
struggle to come to one. On a matter like this incidentally
it would tend not to be decided on party political grounds but
a matter for each MP's own consciences.
--
Les Hellawell
greetings from
YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County
On the other hand, if when you're of sound mind decide that you do no want
to continue life when you know you're going to die and you know it's going
to be painful you do not have a choice in the matter. You have to suffer.
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| User: "Tak" |
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| Title: Re: Christianity almost dead in UK's Cities |
19 Dec 2004 03:39:53 PM |
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On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 19:16:23 +0000, Les Hellawell
<myshredder@leswell.freeuk.com> wrote:
What has assisted suicide got to do with religion unless the
person contemplating it is religious?
Sadly the people who are against assisted suicide are overwhelmingly
christian, "In the US" anyway.
Here it is seen as a "relgious" issue, but these days thanks to
president fathead EVERYTHING is a religious issue.........
American Christianity feels it has the right to control everything
from assisted sucide to whether you can sell used cars on
sunday.......
Tak
a#344
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| User: "Ash" |
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| Title: Re: Christianity almost dead in UK's Cities |
20 Dec 2004 12:10:16 PM |
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Les Hellawell wrote:
According to a BBC report church attendances at "Christmas" in the
big cities barely rises
Manchester, which has always had a reputation for ' free thinking'
radicalism has the fewest church goers with less the 2% attending
church at Christmas Eve. Hereford once a major nest of Christianity
with a fine medieval Cathedral has the highest numbers with less
than 1 in 10 attending
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4107927.stm
Interesting comment by LJS from Stockport against the moaning
from the others.
A little surprised to see Liverpool third bottom, it is one of those
palces I associate with high belief
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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| Title: Re: Christianity almost dead in UK's Cities |
19 Dec 2004 09:59:50 AM |
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On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 15:40:34 +0000, Les Hellawell
<myshredder@leswell.freeuk.com> wrote:
According to a BBC report church attendances at "Christmas" in the
big cities barely rises
Manchester, which has always had a reputation for ' free thinking'
radicalism has the fewest church goers with less the 2% attending
church at Christmas Eve. Hereford once a major nest of Christianity
with a fine medieval Cathedral has the highest numbers with less
than 1 in 10 attending
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4107927.stm
Interesting comment by LJS from Stockport against the moaning
from the others.
I moved from Manchester to Silicon Valley in 1989. I knew it wasn't
the Bible belt but I was surprised by the religiosity there. And from
there to up-state New York. A culture shock after living my first 42
years in the UK.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Christianity almost dead in UK's Cities |
20 Dec 2004 06:24:05 AM |
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Christopher A. Lee wrote:
On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 15:40:34 +0000, Les Hellawell
<myshredder@leswell.freeuk.com> wrote:
According to a BBC report church attendances at "Christmas" in the
big cities barely rises
Manchester, which has always had a reputation for ' free thinking'
radicalism has the fewest church goers with less the 2% attending
church at Christmas Eve. Hereford once a major nest of Christianity
with a fine medieval Cathedral has the highest numbers with less
than 1 in 10 attending
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4107927.stm
Interesting comment by LJS from Stockport against the moaning
from the others.
I moved from Manchester to Silicon Valley in 1989. I knew it wasn't
the Bible belt but I was surprised by the religiosity there. And from
there to up-state New York. A culture shock after living my first 42
years in the UK.
Go back.
You'll feel more comfortable.
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RC
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| User: "towelie" |
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20 Dec 2004 12:59:07 AM |
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TV's Les Hellawell wrote:
According to a BBC report church attendances at "Christmas" in the
big cities barely rises
Manchester, which has always had a reputation for ' free thinking'
radicalism has the fewest church goers with less the 2% attending
church at Christmas Eve. Hereford once a major nest of Christianity
with a fine medieval Cathedral has the highest numbers with less
than 1 in 10 attending
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4107927.stm
When xianity finally dies out, maybe those beautiful old cathedrals will be
renovated into something useful, like Dutch coffeeshops.
--
"Shake says that books are from the devil, and that TV is twice as fast" -
Meatwad
"The Constitution was written on reefer by dudes with wooden teeth" - OG Loc
aa #2133
ap #19
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| User: "Iain" |
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20 Dec 2004 09:41:20 AM |
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towelie wrote:
TV's Les Hellawell wrote:
According to a BBC report church attendances at "Christmas" in the
big cities barely rises
Manchester, which has always had a reputation for ' free thinking'
radicalism has the fewest church goers with less the 2% attending
church at Christmas Eve. Hereford once a major nest of Christianity
with a fine medieval Cathedral has the highest numbers with less
than 1 in 10 attending
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4107927.stm
When xianity finally dies out, maybe those beautiful old cathedrals
will be
renovated into something useful, like Dutch coffeeshops.
Linlithgow Palace is currently used as a knocking shop and stoning
studio.
~Iain
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| User: "James Ascher" |
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20 Dec 2004 04:40:33 PM |
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Iain wrote:
towelie wrote:
TV's Les Hellawell wrote:
According to a BBC report church attendances at "Christmas" in the
big cities barely rises
Manchester, which has always had a reputation for ' free thinking'
radicalism has the fewest church goers with less the 2% attending
church at Christmas Eve. Hereford once a major nest of Christianity
with a fine medieval Cathedral has the highest numbers with less
than 1 in 10 attending
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4107927.stm
When xianity finally dies out, maybe those beautiful old cathedrals
will be
renovated into something useful, like Dutch coffeeshops.
Linlithgow Palace is currently used as a knocking shop and stoning
studio.
Perhaps you can translate for us USians?
James
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| User: "Dubh Ghall" |
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| Title: Re: Christianity almost dead in UK's Cities |
20 Dec 2004 04:49:30 PM |
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On 20 Dec 2004 07:41:20 -0800, "Iain" <iain_inkster@hotmail.com> wrote:
towelie wrote:
TV's Les Hellawell wrote:
According to a BBC report church attendances at "Christmas" in the
big cities barely rises
Manchester, which has always had a reputation for ' free thinking'
radicalism has the fewest church goers with less the 2% attending
church at Christmas Eve. Hereford once a major nest of Christianity
with a fine medieval Cathedral has the highest numbers with less
than 1 in 10 attending
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4107927.stm
When xianity finally dies out, maybe those beautiful old cathedrals
will be
renovated into something useful, like Dutch coffeeshops.
Linlithgow Palace is currently used as a knocking shop and stoning
studio.
Whoring is whoring, be it religion or sex, it is just morality for sale, so:
why not use the place of one trade, to ply the other?
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| User: "Harry F. Leopold" |
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| Title: Re: Christianity almost dead in UK's Cities |
20 Dec 2004 02:28:35 PM |
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On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 09:41:20 -0600, Iain wrote
(in article <1103557280.897560.203030@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>):
towelie wrote:
TV's Les Hellawell wrote:
According to a BBC report church attendances at "Christmas" in the
big cities barely rises
Manchester, which has always had a reputation for ' free thinking'
radicalism has the fewest church goers with less the 2% attending
church at Christmas Eve. Hereford once a major nest of Christianity
with a fine medieval Cathedral has the highest numbers with less
than 1 in 10 attending
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4107927.stm
When xianity finally dies out, maybe those beautiful old cathedrals
will be
renovated into something useful, like Dutch coffeeshops.
Linlithgow Palace is currently used as a knocking shop and stoning
studio.
And these terms mean in English what?
--
Harry F. Leopold
aa #2076
AA/Vet #4
The Prints of Darkness
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³Head up my *****, indeed. I mean look! I can see the Islets of Langerhans from
here!"--Uncle Dollar Bill
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