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User: "J Young"
Date: 02 Dec 2005 09:47:44 PM
Object: Christianity and America
Did I miss something? Am I dreaming?
Or did Christians become public enemy number one overnight?
Was there a conference that no one told me about where they voted atheists
in as the century's new "it" group?
What is happening to America?
Christianity hasn't always been perceived this way. Of the first 108
universities that were established in our country, all but two of them were
based on Christian principles. It is estimated that 52 of the 55 signers of
the Declaration of Independence were Christian men.
And did you know that in 1782, Congress passed a resolution which not only
approved, but recommended the use of the Bible in public schools?
But since the Roman Catholics initiated the Crusades back in the 11th
century, liberals have decided that Christianity must be inherently evil.
Pope Urban II captured Jerusalem back around 1099 during the first crusade,
and since then, Christians have been personified as immoral and corrupt.
(For those of you keeping score at home, the world wouldn't meet Joan of Arc
for another 313 years and to many people around the globe, the world was
still flat.)
About 864 years later, liberals decided it was time for a change.
In 1963, the Supreme Court declared that reading the Bible in a public
school setting was unconstitutional. Two years later, it was declared
unconstitutional to bow and say grace in school.In 1980, it was declared
illegal to post the Ten Commandments anywhere within a public school.
Essentially, after close to nine centuries of waiting, the "good guys" were
on a roll.
Of course, we had to replace Christianity with something. So as soon as
these Supreme Court rulings were passed, we replaced morality and sanctity
with LSD, marijuana and other forms of glorified substance abuse.
The Hippie Movement swept the nation, and suddenly, a world of principles
and virtues took a back seat to a world of anti-American sentiment and
hallucinogenic drugs.
Our plummet from morality didn't stop there.
Today, half of all of American marriages will end in a divorce. Rap music
currently dominates the airwaves, encouraging men to treat women like whores
and rallying gun violence. Girls even have the legal right to kill off their
unborn children after a wild night of drinking, partying and sex ­­­- at the
age of thirteen.
This recent destruction of our country is anything but surprising. By taking
out the one thing that encouraged moral decency in our schools, we've
watched our society crumble. Social ills like rape, abortion, family
dysfunction, sexual promiscuity and drug abuse are directly correlated to
our diminishing sense of values.
Christianity isn't just about arks, gardens and plagues. It also teaches
things like respect, integrity, peace and love.
Whether you take the King James version of the Bible is up to you; there's
so much to learn about life, however, whether you believe in the miracles or
not.
Nothing else is feeding these types of values into our schools, and so we
can do nothing more than sit back and watch our young nation waste away.
Of course, liberals don't care. Our nation has been struggling for decades
with things like substance abuse, and as they see it, the best ways to
overcome this is to spend tax money on drug rehabilitation and lobbying for
legalization of different drugs to Congress.
Instead of fixing the problem at its source, anti-religious liberals will
continue to fight this losing battle, refusing to admit they were ever
wrong.
I blame Pope Urban II and those greedy 12th century Catholics. If they didn'
t screw things up back in 1099, there wouldn't be this misinterpreted notion
that Christianity is bad. I just find it sad that when anti-religious
liberals are asked what kind of impact Christianity has made on the world,
they refer to a set of wars that started close to 900 years ago.
.

User: ""

Title: Re: Christianity and America 03 Dec 2005 02:31:06 PM
DOWN WITH THE LIBERALS AND THE DEMON-CRAPS THEN,
DOWN WITH THEM AAALLLLLLLL
J Young wrote:

Did I miss something? Am I dreaming?
Or did Christians become public enemy number one overnight?

Was there a conference that no one told me about where they voted atheists
in as the century's new "it" group?

What is happening to America?

Christianity hasn't always been perceived this way. Of the first 108
universities that were established in our country, all but two of them we=

re

based on Christian principles. It is estimated that 52 of the 55 signers =

of

the Declaration of Independence were Christian men.

And did you know that in 1782, Congress passed a resolution which not only
approved, but recommended the use of the Bible in public schools?

But since the Roman Catholics initiated the Crusades back in the 11th
century, liberals have decided that Christianity must be inherently evil.

Pope Urban II captured Jerusalem back around 1099 during the first crusad=

e,

and since then, Christians have been personified as immoral and corrupt.
(For those of you keeping score at home, the world wouldn't meet Joan of =

Arc

for another 313 years and to many people around the globe, the world was
still flat.)

About 864 years later, liberals decided it was time for a change.

In 1963, the Supreme Court declared that reading the Bible in a public
school setting was unconstitutional. Two years later, it was declared
unconstitutional to bow and say grace in school.In 1980, it was declared
illegal to post the Ten Commandments anywhere within a public school.

Essentially, after close to nine centuries of waiting, the "good guys" we=

re

on a roll.

Of course, we had to replace Christianity with something. So as soon as
these Supreme Court rulings were passed, we replaced morality and sanctity
with LSD, marijuana and other forms of glorified substance abuse.

The Hippie Movement swept the nation, and suddenly, a world of principles
and virtues took a back seat to a world of anti-American sentiment and
hallucinogenic drugs.

Our plummet from morality didn't stop there.

Today, half of all of American marriages will end in a divorce. Rap music
currently dominates the airwaves, encouraging men to treat women like who=

res

and rallying gun violence. Girls even have the legal right to kill off th=

eir

unborn children after a wild night of drinking, partying and sex =AD=AD=

=AD- at the

age of thirteen.

This recent destruction of our country is anything but surprising. By tak=

ing

out the one thing that encouraged moral decency in our schools, we've
watched our society crumble. Social ills like rape, abortion, family
dysfunction, sexual promiscuity and drug abuse are directly correlated to
our diminishing sense of values.

Christianity isn't just about arks, gardens and plagues. It also teaches
things like respect, integrity, peace and love.

Whether you take the King James version of the Bible is up to you; there's
so much to learn about life, however, whether you believe in the miracles=

or

not.

Nothing else is feeding these types of values into our schools, and so we
can do nothing more than sit back and watch our young nation waste away.

Of course, liberals don't care. Our nation has been struggling for decades
with things like substance abuse, and as they see it, the best ways to
overcome this is to spend tax money on drug rehabilitation and lobbying f=

or

legalization of different drugs to Congress.

Instead of fixing the problem at its source, anti-religious liberals will
continue to fight this losing battle, refusing to admit they were ever
wrong.

I blame Pope Urban II and those greedy 12th century Catholics. If they di=

dn'

t screw things up back in 1099, there wouldn't be this misinterpreted not=

ion

that Christianity is bad. I just find it sad that when anti-religious
liberals are asked what kind of impact Christianity has made on the world,
they refer to a set of wars that started close to 900 years ago.

.
User: "Joshua Calvert"

Title: Re: Christianity and America 03 Dec 2005 02:49:38 PM
wrote in
news:1133641866.386501.232430@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:


DOWN WITH THE LIBERALS AND THE DEMON-CRAPS THEN,
DOWN WITH THEM AAALLLLLLLL

Another rightard gasbag Repuglican weighs in.
--
----
Paraphrasing Bill Maher, Bush has lost, under his five year watch, two
skyscrapers,part of the Pentagon, four airliners, thousands of American
lives, a huge economic surplus, the trust of the American people, a Space
Shuttle, and now an ENTIRE MAJOR CITY.
But Republicans say, "Bush can not be blamed" or "It's Clinton's fault."

What will be the next disaster for which Bush can't be blamed?
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Christianity and America 04 Dec 2005 01:37:40 PM
Joshua Calvert wrote:

Codebreaker@bigsecret.com wrote in
news:1133641866.386501.232430@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:


DOWN WITH THE LIBERALS AND THE DEMON-CRAPS THEN,
DOWN WITH THEM AAALLLLLLLL


Another rightard gasbag Repuglican weighs in.

And another rightard Republican is always far better than a WRONG
wing
***** and a liberal


--
----
Paraphrasing Bill Maher, Bush has lost, under his five year watch, two
skyscrapers,part of the Pentagon, four airliners, thousands of American
lives, a huge economic surplus, the trust of the American people, a Space
Shuttle, and now an ENTIRE MAJOR CITY.

But Republicans say, "Bush can not be blamed" or "It's Clinton's fault."

What will be the next disaster for which Bush can't be blamed?

.
User: "Joshua Calvert"

Title: Re: Christianity and America 04 Dec 2005 05:01:39 PM
wrote in
news:1133725060.449567.92950@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:


Joshua Calvert wrote:

wrote in
news:1133641866.386501.232430@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:


DOWN WITH THE LIBERALS AND THE DEMON-CRAPS THEN,
DOWN WITH THEM AAALLLLLLLL


Another rightard gasbag Repuglican weighs in.



And another rightard Republican is always far better than a WRONG
wing
***** and a liberal

At lying and deceit, rightard.
--
----
Paraphrasing Bill Maher, Bush has lost, under his five year watch, two
skyscrapers,part of the Pentagon, four airliners, thousands of American
lives, a huge economic surplus, the trust of the American people, a Space
Shuttle, and now an ENTIRE MAJOR CITY.
But Republicans say, "Bush can not be blamed" or "It's Clinton's fault."

What will be the next disaster for which Bush can't be blamed?
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Christianity and America 04 Dec 2005 05:28:19 PM
Joshua Calvert wrote:

Codebreaker@bigsecret.com wrote in
news:1133725060.449567.92950@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:


Joshua Calvert wrote:

Codebreaker@bigsecret.com wrote in
news:1133641866.386501.232430@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:


DOWN WITH THE LIBERALS AND THE DEMON-CRAPS THEN,
DOWN WITH THEM AAALLLLLLLL


Another rightard gasbag Repuglican weighs in.



And another rightard Republican is always far better than a WRONG
wing
***** and a liberal


At lying and deceit, rightard.

Nope at leading the free world


--
----
Paraphrasing Bill Maher, Bush has lost, under his five year watch, two
skyscrapers,part of the Pentagon, four airliners, thousands of American
lives, a huge economic surplus, the trust of the American people, a Space
Shuttle, and now an ENTIRE MAJOR CITY.

But Republicans say, "Bush can not be blamed" or "It's Clinton's fault."

What will be the next disaster for which Bush can't be blamed?

.
User: "Joshua Calvert"

Title: Re: Christianity and America 04 Dec 2005 10:27:17 PM
wrote in
news:1133738899.299195.95160@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:


Joshua Calvert wrote:

Codebreaker@bigsecret.com wrote in
news:1133725060.449567.92950@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:


Joshua Calvert wrote:

Codebreaker@bigsecret.com wrote in
news:1133641866.386501.232430@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:


DOWN WITH THE LIBERALS AND THE DEMON-CRAPS THEN,
DOWN WITH THEM AAALLLLLLLL


Another rightard gasbag Repuglican weighs in.



And another rightard Republican is always far better than a WRONG
wing
***** and a liberal


At lying and deceit, rightard.



Nope at leading the free world

At lying and deceit, rightard.
--
----
Paraphrasing Bill Maher, Bush has lost, under his five year watch, two
skyscrapers,part of the Pentagon, four airliners, thousands of American
lives, a huge economic surplus, the trust of the American people, a
Space Shuttle, and now an ENTIRE MAJOR CITY.
But Republicans say, "Bush can not be blamed" or "It's Clinton's
fault."

What will be the next disaster for which Bush can't be blamed?
.






User: "Lörd Phÿltêr"

Title: Re: Christianity and America 03 Dec 2005 02:45:44 AM
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> astounded us with:
news:4ZGdnWlQLedgiAzenZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@giganews.com:

Did I miss something? Am I dreaming?
Or did Christians become public enemy number one overnight?

Yes, yes you did, work out why, report back in a week.
--
Lörd Phÿltêr
Alt.Atheism #1938
Denizen of Darkness #44 & AFJC Antipodean Attaché
Remove "s" to respond
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com
.

User: "Goodness Godless"

Title: Re: Christianity and America 02 Dec 2005 11:54:07 PM
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:4ZGdnWlQLedgiAzenZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@giganews.com...

Did I miss something? Am I dreaming?
Or did Christians become public enemy number one overnight?

No Young, you were just having another of your paranoid wet dreams!
.
User: "Chris Johnson"

Title: Re: Christianity and America 03 Dec 2005 12:43:43 AM
Goodness Godless wrote:

"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:4ZGdnWlQLedgiAzenZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@giganews.com...

Did I miss something? Am I dreaming?
Or did Christians become public enemy number one overnight?

No Young, you were just having another of your paranoid wet dreams!

*sniff* Why do they always have to laugh?
.


User: "nafc"

Title: Re: Christianity and America 04 Dec 2005 04:26:37 AM
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:4ZGdnWlQLedgiAzenZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@giganews.com...
[snip]

In 1963, the Supreme Court declared that reading the Bible in a public
school setting was unconstitutional. Two years later, it was declared
unconstitutional to bow and say grace in school.In 1980, it was declared
illegal to post the Ten Commandments anywhere within a public school.

Essentially, after close to nine centuries of waiting, the "good guys"
were
on a roll.

Of course, we had to replace Christianity with something. So as soon as
these Supreme Court rulings were passed, we replaced morality and sanctity
with LSD, marijuana and other forms of glorified substance abuse.

So let's look at some of what we had before 1963 in your Christian utopia.
Widespread racism with racial discrimination, lynching, bombings of back
churches, and on and on.
Widespread sexism where husbands can beat their wives and the police would
look the other way.
Ethnic discrimination where businesses could place signs in their windows
saying 'Jews need not apply'.
I sure someone like you just loved living in such a society.
nafc
[snip]
.

User: "DaveJr"

Title: Re: Christianity and America 02 Dec 2005 10:10:12 PM

Did I miss something? Am I dreaming?
Or did Christians become public enemy number one overnight?

The people who know better and are not brainwashed with religious crack are
sick and tired of it
being pushed on them and thier children.
.
User: "Johnny"

Title: Re: Christianity and America 03 Dec 2005 07:42:38 AM
"DaveJr" <davesbrain@qwest.net> wrote in message
news:nX8kf.618$_y6.1559@news.uswest.net...


Did I miss something? Am I dreaming?
Or did Christians become public enemy number one overnight?


The people who know better

Examples?

and are not brainwashed with religious crack are
sick and tired of it
being pushed on them and thier children.

Examples of religious crack?
You write like a gay and/or an abortionist.
.

User: "abundance"

Title: Re: Christianity and America 03 Dec 2005 03:00:49 AM
"DaveJr" <davesbrain@qwest.net> wrote in message news:nX8kf.618$_y6.1559@news.uswest.net...


Did I miss something? Am I dreaming?
Or did Christians become public enemy number one overnight?


The people who know better and are not brainwashed with religious crack are
sick and tired of it
being pushed on them and thier children.

but you dont complain about war being pushed upon you
and you children. i mean, you do. but its easier to *****
and moan about bible, then it is to go in the streets and
protest.
nice mindjobs, americans...
.


User: "Frank Arthur"

Title: Re: Christianity and America 03 Dec 2005 06:46:52 AM
For those people who believe that God is weak and cannot defend will come to
His aid at Christmastime with the usual "They're taking my Christmas away"
plaint.
No one is taking Christmas way from anyone in the USA.
You can, and do, buy millions of Christmas trees, decorations, lights,
ornaments and gifts. Homes are decorated with lights and figures and fully
decorated artificial Christmas trees are sold nationwide.You are absolutely
free to call these trees "Christmas trees", "Holiday trees", "Friendship
trees" or any free choice of what you want to call them. You are free to
practice your religion at your home or place of worship, unimpeded ,
anywhere in the 50 states.
What you cannot do is to force or coerce or proselytize
others who do not believe in your particular choice of religion on places
like Public Schools, Village Squares,
City Hall or other places.
Why not?
Because this is the the United States of America where individual rights
rule over "the common good" or "the tyranny of the majority".
Many department and chain stores, nationwide, have opted to replace
"Christmas" with the generic "Holiday"
term recognizing the growing number of other people who do not share that
particular Christian belief. In order to be more inclusive and out of
consideration for the feelings of others the "Holiday" term is being used.
There is nothing stopping you from calling it Christmas if you prefer. There
are no laws forcing you to use the term "Holiday" other than the laws of
decency and consideration for others.
Is that too foreign for a Christian to grasp?
If the message of the birth of Christ at Christmas time is to "love one
another" there is no time or place for misplaced anger and hostility toward
others if you really are a Christian.
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:4ZGdnWlQLedgiAzenZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@giganews.com...

Did I miss something? Am I dreaming?
Or did Christians become public enemy number one overnight?

Was there a conference that no one told me about where they voted atheists
in as the century's new "it" group?

What is happening to America?

Christianity hasn't always been perceived this way. Of the first 108
universities that were established in our country, all but two of them
were
based on Christian principles. It is estimated that 52 of the 55 signers
of
the Declaration of Independence were Christian men.

And did you know that in 1782, Congress passed a resolution which not only
approved, but recommended the use of the Bible in public schools?

But since the Roman Catholics initiated the Crusades back in the 11th
century, liberals have decided that Christianity must be inherently evil.

Pope Urban II captured Jerusalem back around 1099 during the first
crusade,
and since then, Christians have been personified as immoral and corrupt.
(For those of you keeping score at home, the world wouldn't meet Joan of
Arc
for another 313 years and to many people around the globe, the world was
still flat.)

About 864 years later, liberals decided it was time for a change.

In 1963, the Supreme Court declared that reading the Bible in a public
school setting was unconstitutional. Two years later, it was declared
unconstitutional to bow and say grace in school.In 1980, it was declared
illegal to post the Ten Commandments anywhere within a public school.

Essentially, after close to nine centuries of waiting, the "good guys"
were
on a roll.

Of course, we had to replace Christianity with something. So as soon as
these Supreme Court rulings were passed, we replaced morality and sanctity
with LSD, marijuana and other forms of glorified substance abuse.

The Hippie Movement swept the nation, and suddenly, a world of principles
and virtues took a back seat to a world of anti-American sentiment and
hallucinogenic drugs.

Our plummet from morality didn't stop there.

Today, half of all of American marriages will end in a divorce. Rap music
currently dominates the airwaves, encouraging men to treat women like
whores
and rallying gun violence. Girls even have the legal right to kill off
their
unborn children after a wild night of drinking, partying and sex ­­­- at
the
age of thirteen.

This recent destruction of our country is anything but surprising. By
taking
out the one thing that encouraged moral decency in our schools, we've
watched our society crumble. Social ills like rape, abortion, family
dysfunction, sexual promiscuity and drug abuse are directly correlated to
our diminishing sense of values.

Christianity isn't just about arks, gardens and plagues. It also teaches
things like respect, integrity, peace and love.

Whether you take the King James version of the Bible is up to you; there's
so much to learn about life, however, whether you believe in the miracles
or
not.

Nothing else is feeding these types of values into our schools, and so we
can do nothing more than sit back and watch our young nation waste away.

Of course, liberals don't care. Our nation has been struggling for decades
with things like substance abuse, and as they see it, the best ways to
overcome this is to spend tax money on drug rehabilitation and lobbying
for
legalization of different drugs to Congress.

Instead of fixing the problem at its source, anti-religious liberals will
continue to fight this losing battle, refusing to admit they were ever
wrong.

I blame Pope Urban II and those greedy 12th century Catholics. If they
didn'
t screw things up back in 1099, there wouldn't be this misinterpreted
notion
that Christianity is bad. I just find it sad that when anti-religious
liberals are asked what kind of impact Christianity has made on the world,
they refer to a set of wars that started close to 900 years ago.


.
User: ""

Title: Re: Christianity and America 04 Dec 2005 12:33:03 AM
On 3-Dec-2005, "Frank Arthur" <Art@Arthurian.com> wrote:

For those people who believe that God is weak and cannot defend will come
to
His aid at Christmastime with the usual "They're taking my Christmas away"

plaint.

No one is taking Christmas way from anyone in the USA.
You can, and do, buy millions of Christmas trees, decorations, lights,
ornaments and gifts. Homes are decorated with lights and figures and fully

decorated artificial Christmas trees are sold nationwide.You are
absolutely
free to call these trees "Christmas trees", "Holiday trees", "Friendship
trees" or any free choice of what you want to call them.

And you are also free to proclaim to all & sundry that you find these
trappings
to be a bastardization of your holy day, too.
You are free to

practice your religion at your home or place of worship, unimpeded ,
anywhere in the 50 states.

What you cannot do is to force or coerce or proselytize
others who do not believe in your particular choice of religion on places
like Public Schools, Village Squares,
City Hall or other places.
Why not?
Because this is the the United States of America where individual rights
rule over "the common good" or "the tyranny of the majority".

Amen!


Many department and chain stores, nationwide, have opted to replace
"Christmas" with the generic "Holiday"
term recognizing the growing number of other people who do not share that
particular Christian belief. In order to be more inclusive and out of
consideration for the feelings of others the "Holiday" term is being used.

There is nothing stopping you from calling it Christmas if you prefer.
There
are no laws forcing you to use the term "Holiday" other than the laws of
decency and consideration for others.
Is that too foreign for a Christian to grasp?

Well, too foreig for a phony like J. Young to grasp.


If the message of the birth of Christ at Christmas time is to "love one
another" there is no time or place for misplaced anger and hostility
toward
others if you really are a Christian.

Bingo!
Susan

"J Young" [snip crap]

.

User: "Attila"

Title: Re: Christianity and America 03 Dec 2005 09:09:00 AM
On Sat, 3 Dec 2005 07:46:52 -0500, "Frank Arthur" <Art@Arthurian.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id
<Hqgkf.43520$s92.20881@bignews6.bellsouth.net> wrote:


Many department and chain stores, nationwide, have opted to replace
"Christmas" with the generic "Holiday"
term recognizing the growing number of other people who do not share that
particular Christian belief. In order to be more inclusive and out of
consideration for the feelings of others the "Holiday" term is being used.
There is nothing stopping you from calling it Christmas if you prefer. There
are no laws forcing you to use the term "Holiday" other than the laws of
decency and consideration for others.
Is that too foreign for a Christian to grasp?

They consider it something to be attacked without regard for anything
else. Their religion demands no quarter be given to anyone who
disagrees with them.
.


User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Christianity and America 03 Dec 2005 10:27:18 PM
In <4ZGdnWlQLedgiAzenZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@giganews.com>, "J Young"
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:

Or did Christians become public enemy number one overnight?

Is the dominant cultural group in the US beating up on itself or something?
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
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User: "David W. Barnes"

Title: Re: Christianity and America 02 Dec 2005 10:18:50 PM
In article <4ZGdnWlQLedgiAzenZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@giganews.com>, J Young
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:

Did I miss something? Am I dreaming?
Or did Christians become public enemy number one overnight?

Not overnight. Just since Bush took office.


Was there a conference that no one told me about where they voted atheists
in as the century's new "it" group?

Atheists have always been the "it" group. We use our brains to think
things through on our own instead of just believing what we are told.


What is happening to America?

It is being poisoned by the Christian Right.


Christianity hasn't always been perceived this way.

Yeah, and there was a time when we thought the earth was the center of
the universe. Most of us learn the truth, with time.

Of the first 108
universities that were established in our country, all but two of them were
based on Christian principles. It is estimated that 52 of the 55 signers of
the Declaration of Independence were Christian men.

At a time when one couldn't admit one didn't believe in God for fear of
being castigated.


And did you know that in 1782, Congress passed a resolution which not only
approved, but recommended the use of the Bible in public schools?

Yeah - we need a government more like Iran, where religion dictates to
government.


But since the Roman Catholics initiated the Crusades back in the 11th
century, liberals have decided that Christianity must be inherently evil.

ALL religion is inherently evil.


Pope Urban II captured Jerusalem back around 1099 during the first crusade,
and since then, Christians have been personified as immoral and corrupt.
(For those of you keeping score at home, the world wouldn't meet Joan of Arc
for another 313 years and to many people around the globe, the world was
still flat.)

Was this before or after the Church threatened to torture Galileo for
believing the earth went around the sun?


About 864 years later, liberals decided it was time for a change.

And that HAD to be after the Inquisition, right?


In 1963, the Supreme Court declared that reading the Bible in a public
school setting was unconstitutional.

*****

Two years later, it was declared
unconstitutional to bow and say grace in school.

Also *****.

In 1980, it was declared
illegal to post the Ten Commandments anywhere within a public school.

Yeah - that whole "Separation of Church and State." Who needs it?
Iran and Iraq have it figured out.


Essentially, after close to nine centuries of waiting, the "good guys" were
on a roll.

And we are still rolling.


Of course, we had to replace Christianity with something. So as soon as
these Supreme Court rulings were passed, we replaced morality and sanctity
with LSD, marijuana and other forms of glorified substance abuse.

Oh brother... Young has been "experimenting" with drugs again.


The Hippie Movement swept the nation, and suddenly, a world of principles
and virtues took a back seat to a world of anti-American sentiment and
hallucinogenic drugs.

Yeah - Suddenly truth ruled while your hate filled ***** diminished.


Our plummet from morality didn't stop there.

Nooooo...


Today, half of all of American marriages will end in a divorce.

Right. Better those who are in unhappy marriages stay married.

Rap music
currently dominates the airwaves, encouraging men to treat women like whores

You'd prefer the good old days when men could beat their wives as long
as the rod was no bigger than their thumb. ("The Rule of Thumb.")

and rallying gun violence.

That is the NRA.

Girls even have the legal right to kill off their
unborn children after a wild night of drinking, partying and sex ­­­- at the
age of thirteen.

Better to force them to give birth, right?


This recent destruction of our country is anything but surprising.

Hey! You voted for the assholes!

By taking
out the one thing that encouraged moral decency in our schools, we've
watched our society crumble.

They took shop class out of schools? Damn! You're right! Without all
those "handyman types" our society will crumble in no time!

Social ills like rape, abortion, family
dysfunction, sexual promiscuity and drug abuse are directly correlated to
our diminishing sense of values.

*****. You rather the good old days when you could "keep dem
niggers" in line, women couldn't vote, and children worked in
factories.


Christianity isn't just about arks, gardens and plagues. It also teaches
things like respect, integrity, peace and love.

And torture. Don't forget torture. It is also about being judgmental.
And, lets see, it is about deciding that those who don't think as you
do are "wrong." And the Jews! Hate them Jews!


Whether you take the King James version of the Bible is up to you; there's
so much to learn about life, however, whether you believe in the miracles or
not.

People are learning those things - that is what bothers you.


Nothing else is feeding these types of values into our schools, and so we
can do nothing more than sit back and watch our young nation waste away.

And it will get worse with those deficits. Just imagine the taxes they
will have to pay!


Of course, liberals don't care. Our nation has been struggling for decades
with things like substance abuse, and as they see it, the best ways to
overcome this is to spend tax money on drug rehabilitation and lobbying for
legalization of different drugs to Congress.

So much for trying to help people, eh? WWJD?


Instead of fixing the problem at its source, anti-religious liberals will
continue to fight this losing battle, refusing to admit they were ever
wrong.

From the flake who believes God created the Earth in six days and
Darwin was a heretic.


I blame Pope Urban II and those greedy 12th century Catholics.

Of course you do! Blaming is the Christian way! Hell, you assholes
even hate EACH OTHER!

If they didn'
t screw things up back in 1099, there wouldn't be this misinterpreted notion
that Christianity is bad. I just find it sad that when anti-religious
liberals are asked what kind of impact Christianity has made on the world,
they refer to a set of wars that started close to 900 years ago.

The truth is, you religious types are just evolving away.
.

User: "LC"

Title: Re: Christianity and America 03 Dec 2005 02:38:56 PM
Insane troll "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:4ZGdnWlQLedgiAzenZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@giganews.com...

Did I miss something?

Quite a bit, evidently.

Am I dreaming?

No, you're just insane.
<IBen's unattributed diatribe flushed>
LC~ Too much Flori-duh sun has melted J's brain.
"I ain't a Jesus freak. I love porn stars!God bless them."
From:
(Jon Young)
Message-ID: <25e1e54f.0404240901.7eb55105@posting.google.com>
.

User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: Christianity and America 03 Dec 2005 01:46:50 AM
J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:

Did I miss something? Am I dreaming?
Or did Christians become public enemy number one overnight?

Just the religious fundamentalists who want to use terrorism to create
a religious dictatorship in the US.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.
User: "abundance"

Title: Re: Christianity and America 03 Dec 2005 03:00:52 AM
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message news:dmriha$jbk$1@bolt.sonic.net...

J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:

Did I miss something? Am I dreaming?
Or did Christians become public enemy number one overnight?


Just the religious fundamentalists who want to use terrorism to create
a religious dictatorship in the US.

better that than to have fags creating fag dictatorship.
.
User: "BOB"

Title: Re: Christianity and America 03 Dec 2005 03:06:41 PM
"abundance" <abundance@air.org> wrote in news:43915ec4_3@x-privat.org:


"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:dmriha$jbk$1@bolt.sonic.net...

J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:

Did I miss something? Am I dreaming?
Or did Christians become public enemy number one overnight?


Just the religious fundamentalists who want to use terrorism to
create a religious dictatorship in the US.


better that than to have fags creating fag dictatorship.

Note the typical hate and intolerance exhibited by one of the xtian
nutcases. And they wonder why nobody likes them.


.
User: "RS"

Title: Re: Christianity and America 03 Dec 2005 09:13:38 PM
"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message news:Xns97218564DF304SD@70.169.32.36...

"abundance" <abundance@air.org> wrote in news:43915ec4_3@x-privat.org:


"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:dmriha$jbk$1@bolt.sonic.net...

J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:

Did I miss something? Am I dreaming?
Or did Christians become public enemy number one overnight?


Just the religious fundamentalists who want to use terrorism to
create a religious dictatorship in the US.


better that than to have fags creating fag dictatorship.

Note the typical hate and intolerance exhibited by one of the xtian
nutcases. And they wonder why nobody likes them.

Bob, I think one typical problem that Christians face in this nation (those
whose lives were dramatically changed through their faith) is perceptions
non-Christians have concerning people like abundance. If he claims to be
Christian, then he is very misguided. The message of Christ calls all who
follow Him to live a life of love and service to God and to the world around
us. The hatred and intolerance exhibited by abundance is hardly typical,
but it is much easier to notice these malvirtues of the minority of those
claiming to serve Christ rather than the virtues, patience, and concern
exhibited by those who truly know and serve Him.
I apologize for the words of abundance, and hope that he can understand the
error in his ways. Please do not judge the greater group based on the
transgressions and iniquities of the minority.
Peace,
-RS
.
User: "BOB"

Title: Re: Christianity and America 03 Dec 2005 09:50:28 PM
"RS" <rswarts@bu.edu> wrote in news:dmtmua$4h3$1@news3.bu.edu:


"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message
news:Xns97218564DF304SD@70.169.32.36...

"abundance" <abundance@air.org> wrote in
news:43915ec4_3@x-privat.org:


"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:dmriha$jbk$1@bolt.sonic.net...

J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:

Did I miss something? Am I dreaming?
Or did Christians become public enemy number one overnight?


Just the religious fundamentalists who want to use terrorism to
create a religious dictatorship in the US.


better that than to have fags creating fag dictatorship.

Note the typical hate and intolerance exhibited by one of the xtian
nutcases. And they wonder why nobody likes them.


Bob, I think one typical problem that Christians face in this nation
(those whose lives were dramatically changed through their faith) is
perceptions non-Christians have concerning people like abundance. If
he claims to be Christian, then he is very misguided. The message of
Christ calls all who follow Him to live a life of love and service to
God and to the world around us. The hatred and intolerance exhibited
by abundance is hardly typical, but it is much easier to notice these
malvirtues of the minority of those claiming to serve Christ rather
than the virtues, patience, and concern exhibited by those who truly
know and serve Him.

I apologize for the words of abundance, and hope that he can
understand the error in his ways. Please do not judge the greater
group based on the transgressions and iniquities of the minority.

Peace,

-RS

When I was growing up in Ohio, a person's religious beliefs were sacred and
private. In my opinion, it ought to be that way today but it's not. If
you xtians want to improve your image among the general population, do your
religious thing in private.



.



User: "Dave Lister"

Title: Re: Christianity and America 03 Dec 2005 02:02:45 PM
"abundance" <abundance@air.org> wrote in news:43915ec4_3@x-privat.org:


"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:dmriha$jbk$1@bolt.sonic.net...

J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:

Did I miss something? Am I dreaming?
Or did Christians become public enemy number one overnight?


Just the religious fundamentalists who want to use terrorism to
create a religious dictatorship in the US.


better that than to have fags creating fag dictatorship.

Brilliant dickweed, did you learn that in Sunday School?
.

User: ""

Title: Re: Christianity and America 04 Dec 2005 12:31:32 AM
On 3-Dec-2005, "abundance" <abundance@air.org> wrote:

"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:dmriha$jbk$1@bolt.sonic.net...

J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:

Did I miss something? Am I dreaming?
Or did Christians become public enemy number one overnight?


Just the religious fundamentalists who want to use terrorism to create
a religious dictatorship in the US.


better that than to have fags creating fag dictatorship.

Thanks for admitting just what all the anti-gay persecution is about.
You must have some interesting wet dreams.
Susan
.

User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: Christianity and America 03 Dec 2005 10:55:57 AM
abundance <abundance@air.org> wrote:

"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message news:dmriha$jbk$1@bolt.sonic.net...

J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:

Did I miss something? Am I dreaming?
Or did Christians become public enemy number one overnight?


Just the religious fundamentalists who want to use terrorism to create
a religious dictatorship in the US.


better that than to have fags creating fag dictatorship.

There have been many "fags" killed for being gay by religious bigots.
"Fags" don't go around beating and killing people for being religious.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.



User: "kitt"

Title: Re: Christianity and America 04 Dec 2005 02:36:22 PM
J Young wrote:

?

why do you not post the real source of this article instead of
pretending it to be written by you?
.

User: ""

Title: Re: Christianity and America 03 Dec 2005 09:11:23 AM
J Young wrote:

Did I miss something? Am I dreaming?

Probably. Is there a stain on the sheet?
.

User: "Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian"

Title: Re: Christianity and America 03 Dec 2005 01:20:49 AM
J Young wrote:

Did I miss something? Am I dreaming?
Or did Christians become public enemy number one overnight?

Christians, no. Fundies, yes. And justly so.
--
"To his friend a man a friend shall prove,
And gifts with gifts requite;
But men shall mocking with mockery answer,
And fraud with falsehood meet."
(The Poetic Edda)
Must have been written with fundies in mind...
.

User: "Santolina chamaecyparissus"

Title: Re: Christianity and America 03 Dec 2005 08:32:47 PM
J Young wrote:

Did I miss something? Am I dreaming?
Or did Christians become public enemy number one overnight?

Yes. Yes. No.
.

User: "655321"

Title: Re: Christianity and America 03 Dec 2005 12:11:57 PM
On 2005-12-02 19:47:44 -0800, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> said:

Did I miss something? Am I dreaming?
Or did Christians become public enemy number one overnight?

Was there a conference that no one told me about where they voted atheists
in as the century's new "it" group?

What's your beef? Your guys are still in power. Your guys are still
making the major decisions. Even the majority who oppose your guys are
also your guys. The major conflicts in the U.S. are among Christians.
Jews are making Christmas movies.
So are you just making up the persecution complex or are you stupid
enough to believe that Christians are persecuted?
In your case I believe that the latter is true.
--
GlennGlenn (655321) -- aa#825 --

"My bible is accurate where it needs to be." --Earl "duke" Webber
.

User: "Attila"

Title: Re: Christianity and America 03 Dec 2005 04:16:15 AM
On Fri, 2 Dec 2005 22:47:44 -0500, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id
<4ZGdnWlQLedgiAzenZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@giganews.com> wrote:
More off topic drivel from the usual source.
.

User: "Frank Arthur"

Title: Re: Christianity and America 03 Dec 2005 09:10:14 AM
Peace on earth, good will towards men
Except those who don't agree
Who refuse to get in line and say amen
Evolutionists like monkeys in a tree
Left wing loonies and free thinkers
Athiests,agnostics,Muslim,Jew
Keep outside you whiskey drinkers
There's lots of us and you are few
Think you can steal our Christmas tree
We'll get you yet, you sons of bitches
And take Christ away from me
I'll kick your ***** right in your britches
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:4ZGdnWlQLedgiAzenZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@giganews.com...

Did I miss something? Am I dreaming?
Or did Christians become public enemy number one overnight?

Was there a conference that no one told me about where they voted atheists
in as the century's new "it" group?

What is happening to America?

Christianity hasn't always been perceived this way. Of the first 108
universities that were established in our country, all but two of them
were
based on Christian principles. It is estimated that 52 of the 55 signers
of
the Declaration of Independence were Christian men.

And did you know that in 1782, Congress passed a resolution which not only
approved, but recommended the use of the Bible in public schools?

But since the Roman Catholics initiated the Crusades back in the 11th
century, liberals have decided that Christianity must be inherently evil.

Pope Urban II captured Jerusalem back around 1099 during the first
crusade,
and since then, Christians have been personified as immoral and corrupt.
(For those of you keeping score at home, the world wouldn't meet Joan of
Arc
for another 313 years and to many people around the globe, the world was
still flat.)

About 864 years later, liberals decided it was time for a change.

In 1963, the Supreme Court declared that reading the Bible in a public
school setting was unconstitutional. Two years later, it was declared
unconstitutional to bow and say grace in school.In 1980, it was declared
illegal to post the Ten Commandments anywhere within a public school.

Essentially, after close to nine centuries of waiting, the "good guys"
were
on a roll.

Of course, we had to replace Christianity with something. So as soon as
these Supreme Court rulings were passed, we replaced morality and sanctity
with LSD, marijuana and other forms of glorified substance abuse.

The Hippie Movement swept the nation, and suddenly, a world of principles
and virtues took a back seat to a world of anti-American sentiment and
hallucinogenic drugs.

Our plummet from morality didn't stop there.

Today, half of all of American marriages will end in a divorce. Rap music
currently dominates the airwaves, encouraging men to treat women like
whores
and rallying gun violence. Girls even have the legal right to kill off
their
unborn children after a wild night of drinking, partying and sex ­­­- at
the
age of thirteen.

This recent destruction of our country is anything but surprising. By
taking
out the one thing that encouraged moral decency in our schools, we've
watched our society crumble. Social ills like rape, abortion, family
dysfunction, sexual promiscuity and drug abuse are directly correlated to
our diminishing sense of values.

Christianity isn't just about arks, gardens and plagues. It also teaches
things like respect, integrity, peace and love.

Whether you take the King James version of the Bible is up to you; there's
so much to learn about life, however, whether you believe in the miracles
or
not.

Nothing else is feeding these types of values into our schools, and so we
can do nothing more than sit back and watch our young nation waste away.

Of course, liberals don't care. Our nation has been struggling for decades
with things like substance abuse, and as they see it, the best ways to
overcome this is to spend tax money on drug rehabilitation and lobbying
for
legalization of different drugs to Congress.

Instead of fixing the problem at its source, anti-religious liberals will
continue to fight this losing battle, refusing to admit they were ever
wrong.

I blame Pope Urban II and those greedy 12th century Catholics. If they
didn'
t screw things up back in 1099, there wouldn't be this misinterpreted
notion
that Christianity is bad. I just find it sad that when anti-religious
liberals are asked what kind of impact Christianity has made on the world,
they refer to a set of wars that started close to 900 years ago.


.

User: "Polish Prince \Szynka"

Title: Re: Christianity and America 03 Dec 2005 12:30:14 AM
Yes, it did creep up on us during the age of Aquarius.
Far too many Americans have been " Sleepwalking"
for the last few decades. We have allowed this to happen.
We have nothing to blame but our own lethargy and
automatic compliance. We have been distracted.
The question is.........What are we going to do about it ?
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:4ZGdnWlQLedgiAzenZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@giganews.com...

Did I miss something? Am I dreaming?
Or did Christians become public enemy number one overnight?

Was there a conference that no one told me about where they voted atheists
in as the century's new "it" group?

What is happening to America?

Christianity hasn't always been perceived this way. Of the first 108
universities that were established in our country, all but two of them
were
based on Christian principles. It is estimated that 52 of the 55 signers
of
the Declaration of Independence were Christian men.

And did you know that in 1782, Congress passed a resolution which not only
approved, but recommended the use of the Bible in public schools?

But since the Roman Catholics initiated the Crusades back in the 11th
century, liberals have decided that Christianity must be inherently evil.

Pope Urban II captured Jerusalem back around 1099 during the first
crusade,
and since then, Christians have been personified as immoral and corrupt.
(For those of you keeping score at home, the world wouldn't meet Joan of
Arc
for another 313 years and to many people around the globe, the world was
still flat.)

About 864 years later, liberals decided it was time for a change.

In 1963, the Supreme Court declared that reading the Bible in a public
school setting was unconstitutional. Two years later, it was declared
unconstitutional to bow and say grace in school.In 1980, it was declared
illegal to post the Ten Commandments anywhere within a public school.

Essentially, after close to nine centuries of waiting, the "good guys"
were
on a roll.

Of course, we had to replace Christianity with something. So as soon as
these Supreme Court rulings were passed, we replaced morality and sanctity
with LSD, marijuana and other forms of glorified substance abuse.

The Hippie Movement swept the nation, and suddenly, a world of principles
and virtues took a back seat to a world of anti-American sentiment and
hallucinogenic drugs.

Our plummet from morality didn't stop there.

Today, half of all of American marriages will end in a divorce. Rap music
currently dominates the airwaves, encouraging men to treat women like
whores
and rallying gun violence. Girls even have the legal right to kill off
their
unborn children after a wild night of drinking, partying and sex ­­­- at
the
age of thirteen.

This recent destruction of our country is anything but surprising. By
taking
out the one thing that encouraged moral decency in our schools, we've
watched our society crumble. Social ills like rape, abortion, family
dysfunction, sexual promiscuity and drug abuse are directly correlated to
our diminishing sense of values.

Christianity isn't just about arks, gardens and plagues. It also teaches
things like respect, integrity, peace and love.

Whether you take the King James version of the Bible is up to you; there's
so much to learn about life, however, whether you believe in the miracles
or
not.

Nothing else is feeding these types of values into our schools, and so we
can do nothing more than sit back and watch our young nation waste away.

Of course, liberals don't care. Our nation has been struggling for decades
with things like substance abuse, and as they see it, the best ways to
overcome this is to spend tax money on drug rehabilitation and lobbying
for
legalization of different drugs to Congress.

Instead of fixing the problem at its source, anti-religious liberals will
continue to fight this losing battle, refusing to admit they were ever
wrong.

I blame Pope Urban II and those greedy 12th century Catholics. If they
didn'
t screw things up back in 1099, there wouldn't be this misinterpreted
notion
that Christianity is bad. I just find it sad that when anti-religious
liberals are asked what kind of impact Christianity has made on the world,
they refer to a set of wars that started close to 900 years ago.


.


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