| Topic: |
Religions > Atheism |
| User: |
"" |
| Date: |
20 Jan 2005 05:57:33 PM |
| Object: |
Christianity and freedom |
Bush talked about God and freedom in his auguration speech. Can someone
tell what the bible says about freedom?
.
|
|
| User: "Enkidu" |
|
| Title: Re: Christianity and freedom |
20 Jan 2005 07:04:39 PM |
|
|
wrote in news:1106265453.205313.20240
@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:
Bush talked about God and freedom in his auguration speech. Can someone
tell what the bible says about freedom?
I think it says that if you're a slave, you should suffer your lot in life.
That or run away to the desert for 40 years for some "sun, sand and
suffering"
--
Enkidu AA# 2165
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then where does evil come from?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?
Epicurus 341-270 B.C.E.
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "ltlee1" |
|
| Title: Re: Christianity and freedom |
25 Jan 2005 05:55:54 AM |
|
|
wrote:
Bush talked about God and freedom in his auguration speech. Can
someone
tell what the bible says about freedom?
What freedom means according to Christianity?
I. Statistics:
1. The word "free" or "freely" appears in 95 verses.
http://www.bbintl.org/bible/search/searchkjv.jsp?searchstr=free&next=0
2. "Freedom" appears in two verses.
Leviticus 19:20 And whosoever lieth carnally with a woman, that is a
bondmaid, betrothed to an husband, and not at all redeemed, nor freedom
given her; she shall be scourged; they shall not be put to death,
because she was not free.
Acts 22:28 And the chief captain answered, With a great sum obtained
I this freedom. And Paul said, But I was free born.
3. "Liberty" appears in 25 verses.
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "stoney" |
|
| Title: Re: Christianity and freedom |
22 Jan 2005 10:21:57 PM |
|
|
On 20 Jan 2005 15:57:33 -0800, wrote:
Bush talked about God and freedom in his auguration speech. Can someone
tell what the bible says about freedom?
There is no freedom.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "Young" |
|
| Title: Re: Christianity and freedom |
20 Jan 2005 11:39:25 PM |
|
|
http://www.floridahistory.com/
Spanish used Bible to conquest Native American. There is no freedom for
slave.
ltlee1@hotmail.com wrote:
Bush talked about God and freedom in his auguration speech. Can
someone
tell what the bible says about freedom?
.
|
|
|
| User: "ltlee1" |
|
| Title: Re: Christianity and freedom |
21 Jan 2005 06:27:20 AM |
|
|
I raised the question because my impression is that the Christian god
does not allow freedom. Actually, the original sin originate from man's
desire to know good and evil.
Yes, a lot of atrocities including continental wide genocide were
carried out under the name of God. So I am surprised that Bush chose to
invoke God and claimed he wanted to bring freedom to the world.
.
|
|
|
| User: "Al Klein" |
|
| Title: Re: Christianity and freedom |
21 Jan 2005 06:35:58 PM |
|
|
On 21 Jan 2005 04:27:20 -0800, "ltlee1" <ltlee1@hotmail.com> said in
alt.atheism:
Yes, a lot of atrocities including continental wide genocide were
carried out under the name of God. So I am surprised that Bush chose to
invoke God and claimed he wanted to bring freedom to the world.
When you understand that, by freedom, he means "the freedom to do what
we tell you to do", you'll understand what he said.
--
"To surrender to ignorance and call it God has always been premature, and it remains
premature today."
- Isaac Asimov
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at verizon dot net
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "" |
|
| Title: Re: Christianity and freedom |
21 Jan 2005 05:20:07 PM |
|
|
On 21 Jan 2005 04:27:20 -0800, "ltlee1" <ltlee1@hotmail.com> wrote:
I raised the question because my impression is that the Christian god
does not allow freedom. Actually, the original sin originate from man's
desire to know good and evil.
Yes, a lot of atrocities including continental wide genocide were
carried out under the name of God. So I am surprised that Bush chose to
invoke God and claimed he wanted to bring freedom to the world.
Hey, it worked for the other conquerors, why not for Bush&co? All they
need is half the vote and a few irregularities, because half is of
under average intelligence.
drift
.
|
|
|
| User: "Al Klein" |
|
| Title: Re: Christianity and freedom |
21 Jan 2005 10:04:59 PM |
|
|
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 18:20:07 -0500, said in
alt.atheism:
Hey, it worked for the other conquerors, why not for Bush&co? All they
need is half the vote
Not even. All they need is Diebold machines in certain questionable
states.
--
"I've heard the call. I believe God wants me to run for president."
--George W. Bush, quoted in George Magazine, September, 2000
"God gave the savior to the German people. We have faith,
deep and unshakeable faith, that he was sent to us by
God to save Germany."
--Hermann Goering, speaking of Hitler
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at verizon dot net
.
|
|
|
| User: "stoney" |
|
| Title: Re: Christianity and freedom |
23 Jan 2005 02:25:25 PM |
|
|
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 04:04:59 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 18:20:07 -0500, said in
alt.atheism:
Hey, it worked for the other conquerors, why not for Bush&co? All they
need is half the vote
Not even. All they need is Diebold machines in certain questionable
states.
And the proper counters in others.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
.
|
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "stoney" |
|
| Title: Re: Christianity and freedom |
23 Jan 2005 02:24:47 PM |
|
|
On 21 Jan 2005 04:27:20 -0800, "ltlee1" <ltlee1@hotmail.com> wrote:
I raised the question because my impression is that the Christian god
does not allow freedom. Actually, the original sin originate from man's
desire to know good and evil.
No, it does not. It originates from the Christian daemon deity's
malevolent plan. The mythical couple didn't desire to know good and
evil since they had no idea about the concept. They were like a baby
crawling on the floor and putting everything in its mouth.
Yes, a lot of atrocities including continental wide genocide were
carried out under the name of God. So I am surprised that Bush chose to
invoke God and claimed he wanted to bring freedom to the world.
Bush, like 'God', lied and it was good.
There is freedom within slave chains both proclaim.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "Guru Google" |
|
| Title: Re: Christianity and freedom |
21 Jan 2005 09:53:35 AM |
|
|
ltlee1 wrote:
I raised the question because my impression is that the Christian god
does not allow freedom. Actually, the original sin originate from
man's
desire to know good and evil.
the reality is no god allows freedom.
Yes, a lot of atrocities including continental wide genocide were
carried out under the name of God. So I am surprised that Bush chose
to
invoke God and claimed he wanted to bring freedom to the world.
If he says he stick to communism and have 3 represents and 3 insists I
bet u'r gonna wonder nothing then. ^_^
.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Related Articles |
|
|
