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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Josef Balluch"
Date: 03 May 2005 10:55:47 AM
Object: Christianity Continues to Decline in America
http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/archive/2005/April/02/style/stories/01style
..htm
The present trend has Christians becoming the minority in America within
four decades.
Also significant, the largest percentage change was from organized religion
to "none at all".
Regards,
Josef
.

User: "Mike Painter"

Title: Re: Christianity Continues to Decline in America 09 Apr 2005 07:43:07 PM
rj wrote:

duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in
news:5ehf51ln8haqq6ie1co57olhlircm1v6ie@4ax.com:

On Sat, 09 Apr 2005 02:26:55 GMT, rj <rj@yahoo.com> wrote:

Duke is a sick person.


How so?

First he lies to others and to himself.


So sorry, bubba, but I never lie on the ng.

I have seen this sort of behaviour before and if left untreated it
can result in a total mental breakdown similar to what happened to
Norman Bates in the story "Psycho".


Now there's a real life experience - said bubba has to turn to a
"movie" to express himself.

I really do feel sorry for duke. Poor *****.
rj


Don't feel sorry for me. I am totally happy with my situation.
Remember my words when you hang there with the white hot tips of the
flames of hell tickling at the cheeks of your ***** for all eternity.

duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****


Duke likes the idea of seeing some guys ***** get singed. Do you like
seeing a man's ***** duke? Does it turn you on?

This is not the first time he mentioned something about tickling a
guys *****.

I think he is homo-repressed. A vivid example is the former military
guy in "American Beauty". Somehow I think duke has been lying to
himself and others for so long about him homosexuality that it is
causing hm to be further screwed in the head.

Maybe, but all we have to go on is his admission that he likes to go to
masses for children and watch.
.

User: "Mike Painter"

Title: Re: Christianity Continues to Decline in America 09 Apr 2005 12:27:41 PM
duke wrote:

On Sat, 09 Apr 2005 02:26:55 GMT, rj <rj@yahoo.com> wrote:

Duke is a sick person.


How so?

First he lies to others and to himself.


So sorry, bubba, but I never lie on the ng.

Earl only tells one consistant lie, the one that says he never lies. The
others tend to vary wwith time and circumstance.
.

User: "Mike Painter"

Title: Re: Christianity Continues to Decline in America 08 Apr 2005 12:56:48 AM
rj wrote:
<snip>


I caught you dead to rights in a lie and you sit there and try to lie
your way out of it?

Your hypocricy knows no bounds.

<snip>


Sorry bubba, but I never lie on the ng.


Certain divisions of the EAC are in a lot of trouble over the likes of Earl
and Jason.
They squandered away millions in a crash program to develop a program that
would make christians and others think about christianity.
Just before the Beta version went on line, Earl showed up. A few years later
Jason appeared.
Had they just shrugged their shoulders and said reality is always stranger
than fiction we might have excused them.
BUT THEY CLAIMED EARL *WAS* THE BETA.
When research by some people on ARC discovered that "duke32" was a real
person and not the offshoot of an early computer game, the fit hit the shan.
Those people are repairing non existent black helicopters in the artic now
and for punishment they have to read all of Earl's posts - and defend them!
.

User: "Woden"

Title: Re: Christianity Continues to Decline in America 06 Apr 2005 09:50:21 PM
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in
news:tpo8515ifp0ki57eh8h8uigdf89gupsf6d@4ax.com:

On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 00:07:36 GMT, Woden <woden@charter.net> wrote:

Woodie has a knothole for a brain.


Thank you, once again for demonstrating your xian love and understanding
of your fellow man.


Just explaining how you present yourself.

Not only are you an ignorant *****, but you don't even have the balls to
admit when you're trying to be insulting.
--
Woden
"religion is a socio-political system for controlling people's thoughts,
lives and actions based on ancient myths and superstitions, perpetrated
through generations of subtle yet pervasive brainwashing."
.
User: "duke"

Title: Re: Christianity Continues to Decline in America 07 Apr 2005 05:29:18 PM
On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 02:50:21 GMT, Woden <woden@charter.net> wrote:

duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in
news:tpo8515ifp0ki57eh8h8uigdf89gupsf6d@4ax.com:

On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 00:07:36 GMT, Woden <woden@charter.net> wrote:

Woodie has a knothole for a brain.


Thank you, once again for demonstrating your xian love and understanding
of your fellow man.


Just explaining how you present yourself.


Not only are you an ignorant *****, but you don't even have the balls to
admit when you're trying to be insulting.

Actually, I'm trying to be nice to you.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
.
User: "Woden"

Title: Re: Christianity Continues to Decline in America 07 Apr 2005 05:45:58 PM
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in
news:f1db51p900ri8a2u787gjvniugqlq4258d@4ax.com:

On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 02:50:21 GMT, Woden <woden@charter.net> wrote:

duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in
news:tpo8515ifp0ki57eh8h8uigdf89gupsf6d@4ax.com:

On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 00:07:36 GMT, Woden <woden@charter.net> wrote:

Woodie has a knothole for a brain.


Thank you, once again for demonstrating your xian love and
understanding of your fellow man.


Just explaining how you present yourself.


Not only are you an ignorant *****, but you don't even have the
balls to admit when you're trying to be insulting.


Actually, I'm trying to be nice to you.

More *****!
--
Woden
"religion is a socio-political system for controlling people's thoughts,
lives and actions based on ancient myths and superstitions, perpetrated
through generations of subtle yet pervasive brainwashing."
.
User: "duke"

Title: Re: Christianity Continues to Decline in America 08 Apr 2005 02:26:34 PM
On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 22:45:58 GMT, Woden <woden@charter.net> wrote:

Not only are you an ignorant *****, but you don't even have the
balls to admit when you're trying to be insulting.

Actually, I'm trying to be nice to you.

More *****!

No really. I'd much rather correct you politely rather than in an ugly fashion.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
.
User: "Vic Sagerquist"

Title: Re: Christianity Continues to Decline in America 08 Apr 2005 08:33:07 PM
On 08 Apr 2005, duke dropped trou, farted, whirled, then shouted:

On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 22:45:58 GMT, Woden <woden@charter.net> wrote:

Not only are you an ignorant *****, but you don't even have the
balls to admit when you're trying to be insulting.

Actually, I'm trying to be nice to you.

More *****!


No really. I'd much rather correct you politely rather than in an
ugly fashion.

Which doesn't really explain why your back-handed politeness turns to
christerthreats when your arguments are refuted by logic.
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
Plonked by Jason Gastrich for all eternity...
______________
As you were, I was. As I am, you will be.
--- Hunter S. Thompson
.
User: "Les Hellawell"

Title: Re: Christianity Continues to Decline in America 09 Apr 2005 08:59:48 AM
On Fri, 08 Apr 2005 20:33:07 -0500, Vic Sagerquist
<address@withheld.com> wrote:

On 08 Apr 2005, duke dropped trou, farted, whirled, then shouted:

On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 22:45:58 GMT, Woden <woden@charter.net> wrote:

Not only are you an ignorant *****, but you don't even have the
balls to admit when you're trying to be insulting.

Actually, I'm trying to be nice to you.

More *****!


No really. I'd much rather correct you politely rather than in an
ugly fashion.


Which doesn't really explain why your back-handed politeness turns to
christerthreats when your arguments are refuted by logic.

You have to admit that at least Duke is trying to convince us
(albeit not very well) and at least is trying to be polite. He tells
us what he sincerely believes. Contrast that with the protestants who
come here not so much as to recruit us but simply to attack and throw
spite and scorn.
Evem Jason Gastrich, who arogantly proclaims to be our minister and
is supposed to be trying to recruit us does nothing more than
indulge himself in alienating and attacking us to show us
how superior he thinks he is. Again I don't see that attitude with
Duke.
I have come across many really nasty Christians both here
and elsewhere who I would not give the time of day should
I ever meet them, but would not hesitate to walk across the
road to shake Duke's hand even though I profoundly disagee
with most everything he says.
--
Les Hellawell
greetings from
YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County
.

User: "duke"

Title: Re: Christianity Continues to Decline in America 09 Apr 2005 07:14:17 AM
On Fri, 08 Apr 2005 20:33:07 -0500, Vic Sagerquist <address@withheld.com> wrote:

No really. I'd much rather correct you politely rather than in an
ugly fashion.

Which doesn't really explain why your back-handed politeness turns to
christerthreats when your arguments are refuted by logic.

No, vic, I can't threaten you. I don't have that authority. I'm just trying to
help you realize what you're in for if you continue your ways.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
.


User: "Woden"

Title: Re: Christianity Continues to Decline in America 08 Apr 2005 09:44:53 PM
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in
news:qlmd51hdl23663feu3n6tmcogf5vrct09c@4ax.com:

On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 22:45:58 GMT, Woden <woden@charter.net> wrote:

Not only are you an ignorant *****, but you don't even have the
balls to admit when you're trying to be insulting.

Actually, I'm trying to be nice to you.

More *****!


No really. I'd much rather correct you politely rather than in an
ugly fashion.

You've yet to correct me on anything. You just continue to spout your
worthless religous rationizations and god-soaked *****.
--
Woden
"religion is a socio-political system for controlling people's thoughts,
lives and actions based on ancient myths and superstitions, perpetrated
through generations of subtle yet pervasive brainwashing."
.





User: "wcb"

Title: Re: Christianity Continues to Decline in America 03 Apr 2005 07:32:11 PM
duke wrote:

On Sun, 03 Apr 2005 13:16:04 GMT, Woden <woden@charter.net> wrote:

duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in
news:ksnv411a75decj77ahu4bq58d6688q42s2@4ax.com:

On Sat, 2 Apr 2005 13:43:08 -0600, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com>
wrote:

The present trend has Christians becoming the minority in America
within four decades.


How so, when we continue to increase.


Because there's a GREATER increase in people who DON'T believe your
crap. How stupid do you have to be not to figure that out for
yourself?


Your God will not like you talking about his stuff as "crap".

And then, the biggie: 2000 years ago there were 13 Christians. Today
there are 2 billion. Atheism is about to die out.

duke


LOL.


That's right - less than 1%.


Check the ARIS studies.
10%
General point of view: Religious or Secular:
Outlook All adults Young (18 - 34) Senior (over 64)
Religious 37% 27% 47%
Somewhat religious 38 43 34
Somewhat secular 6 9 3
Secular 10 14 7
Don't know/ refused 9 7 9
Not that in young people, its higher, 14%
When the older generatio dies off, secularism
will rise 50% from that alone.
*****
USA Today/Gallup Poll in 2002-JAN showed that almost half of American adults
appear to be alienated from organized religion. If current trends continue,
most adults will not call themselves religious within a few years. Results
include:

About 50% consider themselves religious (down from 54% in 1999-DEC)
About 33% consider themselves "spiritual but not religious" (up from 30%)
About 10% regard themselves as neither spiritual or religious.
*****
http://www.pitzer.edu/academics/faculty/zuckerman/atheism.html
Australia , Canada, New Zealand, and the United States

According to Norris and Inglehart (2004), 25% of those in Australia do not
believe in God. According to Paul (2002), 24% Australians are atheist or
agnostic.

Guth and Fraser (2001) found that 28% of Canadians ?show no evidence of
religious salience or activity.? According to Norris and Inglehart (2004),
22% of those in Canada do not believe in God. According to Bibby (2002),
when asked ?Do you believe that God exists?? 6% of Canadians answered ?No,
I definitely do not? and another 13% answered, ?No, I don?t think so,? for
a total of 19% being classified as either atheist or agnostic. According to
Gallup and Lindsay (1999:121), 30% of Canadians do not believe in God or a
?Higher Power.?

Inglehart et al (2004) found that 22% of those in New Zealand do not believe
in God, and Paul (2002) found that 20% of New Zealanders are atheist or
agnostic.

According to Norris and Inglehart (2004), 6% of those in the United States
do not believe in God. According to a 2004 survey commissioned by the
BBC( v ), 9% of Americans do not believe in God. Rice (2003) found that
3.8% of Americans don?t believe in God or ?a spirit or life force.?
According to Hout and Fischer (2002), between 3-4.5% of Americans are
either atheist or agnostic; Marwell and Demerath (2003) suggest that a more
accurate estimate is 7%. According to Paul (2002) and Froese (2001), 8% of
Americans are atheist or agnostic. The Pew Forum on Religion and Public
Life found that 16% of Americans claim no religious affiliation (Kang,
2004). According to Gallup and Lindsay (1999:99), 5% of Americans do not
believe in God or a ?Higher Power.?
--
When I shake my killfile, I can hear them buzzing!
Cheerful Charlie
.
User: "duke"

Title: Re: Christianity Continues to Decline in America 04 Apr 2005 05:33:59 PM
On Sun, 03 Apr 2005 19:32:11 -0500, wcb <wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com> wrote:

That's right - less than 1%.

Check the ARIS studies.

Check adherents.com for the US.
You see the 0.4% US atheist below. I'll even give you the pagans and get you to
0.5%.
United States:
Christianity 151,225,000 159,030,000 76.5% +5%
Nonreligious/Secular 13,116,000 27,539,000 13.2% +110%
Judaism 3,137,000 2,831,000 1.3% -10%
Islam 527,000 1,104,000 0.5% +109%
Buddhism 401,000 1,082,000 0.5% +170%
Agnostic 1,186,000 991,000 0.5% -16%
Atheist 902,000 0.4%
Hinduism 227,000 766,000 0.4% +237%
Unitarian Universalist 502,000 629,000 0.3% +25%
Wiccan/Pagan/Druid 307,000 0.1%
Spiritualist 116,000
Native American Religion 47,000 103,000 +119%
Baha'i 28,000 84,000 +200%
New Age 20,000 68,000 +240%
Sikhism 13,000 57,000 +338%
Scientology 45,000 55,000 +22%
Humanist 29,000 49,000 +69%
Deity (Deist) 6,000 49,000 +717%
Taoist 23,000 40,000 +74%
Eckankar 18,000 26,000 +44%
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
.
User: "Cary Kittrell"

Title: Re: Christianity Continues to Decline in America 04 Apr 2005 05:37:13 PM
In article <vvf3515iuflhu5dvujpkfkhsef7q91ob8l@4ax.com> duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> writes:


On Sun, 03 Apr 2005 19:32:11 -0500, wcb <wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com> wrote:

That's right - less than 1%.

Check the ARIS studies.


Check adherents.com for the US.

You see the 0.4% US atheist below. I'll even give you the pagans and get you to
0.5%.

United States:
Christianity 151,225,000 159,030,000 76.5% +5%
Nonreligious/Secular 13,116,000 27,539,000 13.2% +110%
Judaism 3,137,000 2,831,000 1.3% -10%
Islam 527,000 1,104,000 0.5% +109%
Buddhism 401,000 1,082,000 0.5% +170%
Agnostic 1,186,000 991,000 0.5% -16%
Atheist 902,000 0.4%
Hinduism 227,000 766,000 0.4% +237%
Unitarian Universalist 502,000 629,000 0.3% +25%
Wiccan/Pagan/Druid 307,000 0.1%
Spiritualist 116,000
Native American Religion 47,000 103,000 +119%
Baha'i 28,000 84,000 +200%
New Age 20,000 68,000 +240%
Sikhism 13,000 57,000 +338%
Scientology 45,000 55,000 +22%
Humanist 29,000 49,000 +69%
Deity (Deist) 6,000 49,000 +717%
Taoist 23,000 40,000 +74%
Eckankar 18,000 26,000 +44%

And what exact faith do you assign to those 13-plus "nonreligious/secular"
respondees?
-- cary
.
User: "Michelle Malkin"

Title: Re: Christianity Continues to Decline in America 04 Apr 2005 08:09:47 PM
"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
news:d2sfip$48u$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu...

In article <vvf3515iuflhu5dvujpkfkhsef7q91ob8l@4ax.com> duke

<duckgumbo32@cox.net> writes:


On Sun, 03 Apr 2005 19:32:11 -0500, wcb <wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com> wrote:

That's right - less than 1%.

Check the ARIS studies.


Check adherents.com for the US.

You see the 0.4% US atheist below. I'll even give you the pagans and

get you to

0.5%.

Don't give us the Pagans. They believe in gods. Give us some of
the non-religious/secular (all the secular and and some of the
'non-religious') who don't but are afraid to call themselves
atheists or simply don't like the word. And, some of the agnostics
are also atheists. However you look at it, there are millions of us in
the US alone.


United States:
Christianity 151,225,000 159,030,000 76.5% +5%
Nonreligious/Secular 13,116,000 27,539,000 13.2% +110%
Judaism 3,137,000 2,831,000 1.3% -10%
Islam 527,000 1,104,000 0.5% +109%
Buddhism 401,000 1,082,000 0.5% +170%
Agnostic 1,186,000 991,000 0.5% -16%
Atheist 902,000 0.4%
Hinduism 227,000 766,000 0.4% +237%
Unitarian Universalist 502,000 629,000 0.3% +25%
Wiccan/Pagan/Druid 307,000 0.1%
Spiritualist 116,000
Native American Religion 47,000 103,000 +119%
Baha'i 28,000 84,000 +200%
New Age 20,000 68,000 +240%
Sikhism 13,000 57,000 +338%
Scientology 45,000 55,000 +22%
Humanist 29,000 49,000 +69%
Deity (Deist) 6,000 49,000 +717%
Taoist 23,000 40,000 +74%
Eckankar 18,000 26,000 +44%



And what exact faith do you assign to those 13-plus "nonreligious/secular"
respondees?


-- cary

.
User: "wcb"

Title: Re: Christianity Continues to Decline in America 04 Apr 2005 09:44:40 PM
Michelle Malkin wrote:


"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
news:d2sfip$48u$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu...

In article <vvf3515iuflhu5dvujpkfkhsef7q91ob8l@4ax.com> duke

<duckgumbo32@cox.net> writes:


On Sun, 03 Apr 2005 19:32:11 -0500, wcb <wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com>
wrote:

That's right - less than 1%.

Check the ARIS studies.


Check adherents.com for the US.

You see the 0.4% US atheist below. I'll even give you the pagans and

get you to

0.5%.


Don't give us the Pagans. They believe in gods. Give us some of
the non-religious/secular (all the secular and and some of the
'non-religious') who don't but are afraid to call themselves
atheists or simply don't like the word. And, some of the agnostics
are also atheists. However you look at it, there are millions of us in
the US alone.

A USA Today/Gallup Poll in 2002-JAN showed that almost half of American
adults appear to be alienated from organized religion. If current trends
continue, most adults will not call themselves religious within a few
years. Results include:

About 50% consider themselves religious (down from 54% in 1999-DEC)
About 33% consider themselves "spiritual but not religious" (up from 30%)
About 10% regard themselves as neither spiritual or religious.
10%. Its simply a fact thst due to decades og hate
mongering, its hard to openly be Atheist. But you an easily get
by with being secular, or non-religious.
Same thing without the baggage of decades of christian
hate mongering.


United States:
Christianity 151,225,000 159,030,000 76.5% +5%
Nonreligious/Secular 13,116,000 27,539,000 13.2% +110%



And what exact faith do you assign to those 13-plus
"nonreligious/secular" respondees?


-- cary

--
When I shake my killfile, I can hear them buzzing!
Cheerful Charlie
.
User: "duke"

Title: Re: Christianity Continues to Decline in America 05 Apr 2005 05:30:36 PM
On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 21:44:40 -0500, wcb <wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com> wrote:

A USA Today/Gallup Poll in 2002-JAN showed that almost half of American
adults appear to be alienated from organized religion. If current trends
continue, most adults will not call themselves religious within a few
years. Results include:


About 50% consider themselves religious (down from 54% in 1999-DEC)
About 33% consider themselves "spiritual but not religious" (up from 30%)
About 10% regard themselves as neither spiritual or religious.

The trend is already reversing. TerriS and the Holy Father take care of that.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
.
User: "Vic Sagerquist"

Title: Re: Christianity Continues to Decline in America 05 Apr 2005 09:54:32 PM
On 05 Apr 2005, duke dropped trou, farted, whirled, then shouted:

On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 21:44:40 -0500, wcb <wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com>
wrote:

A USA Today/Gallup Poll in 2002-JAN showed that almost half of
American adults appear to be alienated from organized religion. If
current trends continue, most adults will not call themselves
religious within a few years. Results include:


About 50% consider themselves religious (down from 54% in 1999-DEC)
About 33% consider themselves "spiritual but not religious" (up from
30%) About 10% regard themselves as neither spiritual or
religious.


The trend is already reversing. TerriS and the Holy Father take care
of that.

You said the same thing after 9-11. So much for that theory.
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
Plonked by Jason Gastrich for all eternity...
______________
As you were, I was. As I am, you will be.
--- Hunter S. Thompson
.
User: "duke"

Title: Re: Christianity Continues to Decline in America 06 Apr 2005 05:11:36 PM
On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 21:54:32 -0500, Vic Sagerquist <address@withheld.com> wrote:

You said the same thing after 9-11. So much for that theory.

Nope, it happened then too. And is still increasing.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
.




User: "duke"

Title: Re: Christianity Continues to Decline in America 05 Apr 2005 05:28:01 PM
On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 21:09:47 -0400, "Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net>
wrote:

You see the 0.4% US atheist below. I'll even give you the pagans and

get you to

0.5%.

Don't give us the Pagans. They believe in gods. Give us some of
the non-religious/secular

Sorry, they're yours.

United States:
Christianity 151,225,000 159,030,000 76.5% +5%
Nonreligious/Secular 13,116,000 27,539,000 13.2% +110%
Judaism 3,137,000 2,831,000 1.3% -10%
Islam 527,000 1,104,000 0.5% +109%
Buddhism 401,000 1,082,000 0.5% +170%
Agnostic 1,186,000 991,000 0.5% -16%
Atheist 902,000 0.4%
Hinduism 227,000 766,000 0.4% +237%
Unitarian Universalist 502,000 629,000 0.3% +25%
Wiccan/Pagan/Druid 307,000 0.1%
Spiritualist 116,000
Native American Religion 47,000 103,000 +119%
Baha'i 28,000 84,000 +200%
New Age 20,000 68,000 +240%
Sikhism 13,000 57,000 +338%
Scientology 45,000 55,000 +22%
Humanist 29,000 49,000 +69%
Deity (Deist) 6,000 49,000 +717%
Taoist 23,000 40,000 +74%
Eckankar 18,000 26,000 +44%



And what exact faith do you assign to those 13-plus "nonreligious/secular"
respondees?


-- cary


duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
.
User: "Vic Sagerquist"

Title: Re: Christianity Continues to Decline in America 05 Apr 2005 10:16:05 PM
On 05 Apr 2005, duke dropped trou, farted, whirled, then shouted:

Don't give us the Pagans. They believe in gods. Give us some of
the non-religious/secular


Sorry, they're yours.

The pagans? No-no-no-no. Read my lips.
Pagans.
Believe.
In.
Gods.
Gods such as:
Zoroaster
Mithras
Horus
Dionysius
Attis
Kryshna
Quezalcoatl
Tezcatlipoca
Loki
Thor
Odin
Zeuss
Athena
Eros
Hades
Morpheus (you'd like this one, he is the god of dreams)
Poseidon
And so on and so forth. Christianity was formed out of quite a few of
these pagan gods, Mithras, Kryshna and Horus being the most prominent.
The words "Kryshna" and "Christ" even have the same meaning.
So, there you have it. The Pagans are YOURS. You'll have to give up the
nonreligious in trade. Duke, by definition they are NOT RELIGIOUS. They
don't go to church, they don't take communion, most of them couldn't care
less about religion. Like I have been for 90% of my life, until I
finally dropped all remaining traces of supernatural belief, writing it
off as simply insane.
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
Plonked by Jason Gastrich for all eternity...
______________
As you were, I was. As I am, you will be.
--- Hunter S. Thompson
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User: "Walter Bushell"

Title: Re: Christianity Continues to Decline in America 11 Apr 2005 11:27:13 AM
In article <Xns962FCE68CFD6vicman@216.196.97.136>,
Vic Sagerquist <address@withheld.com> wrote:

And so on and so forth. Christianity was formed out of quite a few of
these pagan gods, Mithras, Kryshna and Horus being the most prominent.
The words "Kryshna" and "Christ" even have the same meaning.

Put Zoraster high on the list. I was the Zoroastrians that transformed
the Hebrews into Jews.
--
Guns don't kill people; automobiles kill people.
.

User: "duke"

Title: Re: Christianity Continues to Decline in America 06 Apr 2005 05:16:16 PM
On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 22:16:05 -0500, Vic Sagerquist <address@withheld.com> wrote:

On 05 Apr 2005, duke dropped trou, farted, whirled, then shouted:

Don't give us the Pagans. They believe in gods. Give us some of
the non-religious/secular


Sorry, they're yours.


The pagans? No-no-no-no. Read my lips.

Pagans.
Believe.
In.
Gods.
Gods such as:

marshmellows.

And so on and so forth. Christianity was formed out of quite a few of
these pagan gods, Mithras, Kryshna and Horus being the most prominent.
The words "Kryshna" and "Christ" even have the same meaning.

Kryshna will never keep you soul out of hell, though.

So, there you have it. The Pagans are YOURS.

Not a chance. They're atheists.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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User: "Vic Sagerquist"

Title: Re: Christianity Continues to Decline in America 06 Apr 2005 09:23:09 PM
On 06 Apr 2005, duke dropped trou, farted, whirled, then shouted:

On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 22:16:05 -0500, Vic Sagerquist
<address@withheld.com> wrote:

On 05 Apr 2005, duke dropped trou, farted, whirled, then shouted:

Don't give us the Pagans. They believe in gods. Give us some of
the non-religious/secular


Sorry, they're yours.


The pagans? No-no-no-no. Read my lips.

Pagans.
Believe.
In.
Gods.


Gods such as:


marshmellows.

And so on and so forth. Christianity was formed out of quite a few of
these pagan gods, Mithras, Kryshna and Horus being the most prominent.
The words "Kryshna" and "Christ" even have the same meaning.


Kryshna will never keep you soul out of hell, though.

So, there you have it. The Pagans are YOURS.


Not a chance. They're atheists.

This is your brain on religion. Get it?
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
Plonked by Jason Gastrich for all eternity...
______________
As you were, I was. As I am, you will be.
--- Hunter S. Thompson
.

User: "Douglas Berry"

Title: Re: Christianity Continues to Decline in America 06 Apr 2005 06:08:03 PM
On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 17:16:16 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> drained
his beer, leaned back in the alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly
proclaimed the following

So, there you have it. The Pagans are YOURS.


Not a chance. They're atheists.

I have many pagan friends, and they believe in a varity of deities..
The Horned Man, the Earth Mother, etc. Since they believe in gods,
they are not atheists.
--
Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
.

User: "RainLover"

Title: Re: Christianity Continues to Decline in America 06 Apr 2005 07:56:33 PM
On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 17:16:16 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:

So, there you have it. The Pagans are YOURS.


Not a chance. They're atheists.

Duke, do you even KNOW what a Pagan is? I think a lot of them who
WORSHIP the God and Godess would be surprised to learn that they don't
believe in any gods.
Be sure to break it to them slowly, will ya?
James, Seattle
.
User: "duke"

Title: Re: Christianity Continues to Decline in America 07 Apr 2005 05:31:11 PM
On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 17:56:33 -0700, RainLover
<SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> wrote:

So, there you have it. The Pagans are YOURS.

Not a chance. They're atheists.

Duke, do you even KNOW what a Pagan is? I think a lot of them who
WORSHIP the God and Godess would be surprised to learn that they don't
believe in any gods.

Plainly put, they don't.

Be sure to break it to them slowly, will ya?
James, Seattle

Sure, got some names.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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User: "Vic Sagerquist"

Title: Re: Christianity Continues to Decline in America 07 Apr 2005 07:06:06 PM
On 07 Apr 2005, duke dropped trou, farted, whirled, then shouted:

On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 17:56:33 -0700, RainLover
<SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> wrote:

So, there you have it. The Pagans are YOURS.

Not a chance. They're atheists.


Duke, do you even KNOW what a Pagan is? I think a lot of them who
WORSHIP the God and Godess would be surprised to learn that they don't
believe in any gods.


Plainly put, they don't.

Plainly put, you're a self-serving idiot.
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
Plonked by Jason Gastrich for all eternity...
______________
As you were, I was. As I am, you will be.
--- Hunter S. Thompson
.
User: "duke"

Title: Re: Christianity Continues to Decline in America 08 Apr 2005 02:28:26 PM
On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 19:06:06 -0500, Vic Sagerquist <address@withheld.com> wrote:

Duke, do you even KNOW what a Pagan is? I think a lot of them who
WORSHIP the God and Godess would be surprised to learn that they don't
believe in any gods.

Plainly put, they don't.

Plainly put, you're a self-serving idiot.

Actually, I'm a Christian.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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User: "Denis Loubet"

Title: Re: Christianity Continues to Decline in America 08 Apr 2005 05:48:11 PM
"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
news:vpmd511i767d29lhmn525k59fb20sds9qm@4ax.com...

On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 19:06:06 -0500, Vic Sagerquist <address@withheld.com>
wrote:

Duke, do you even KNOW what a Pagan is? I think a lot of them who
WORSHIP the God and Godess would be surprised to learn that they don't
believe in any gods.

Plainly put, they don't.


Plainly put, you're a self-serving idiot.


Actually, I'm a Christian.

Same fucking thing.
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http:/www.io.com/~dloubet
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