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"Mike Painter" |
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19 Jan 2006 07:05:40 PM |
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Christianity is not a religion. |
Christianity is not a religion.
All the other religions that claim they are religions are religions as long
as they follow the guidelines set forth by the religious community. Islam,
Judaism, Mithraism, Buddhists, all of them are true religions.
Christianity is not, even if all the other religions say that it is a
religion, it is not because I Say So.
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Take a CPR class and get your community involved in an AED program.
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| User: "DaveJr" |
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| Title: Re: Christianity is not a religion. |
19 Jan 2006 08:21:46 PM |
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"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:EHWzf.12110$F_3.412@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net...
Christianity is not a religion.
All the other religions that claim they are religions are religions
as long
as they follow the guidelines set forth by the religious community.
Islam,
Judaism, Mithraism, Buddhists, all of them are true religions.
Christianity is not, even if all the other religions say that it is
a
religion, it is not because I Say So.
I see all religions as being an evolutionary flaw.
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| User: "Chris Johnson" |
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| Title: Re: Christianity is not a religion. |
19 Jan 2006 11:04:42 PM |
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DaveJr wrote:
"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:EHWzf.12110$F_3.412@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net...
Christianity is not a religion.
All the other religions that claim they are religions are religions
as long
as they follow the guidelines set forth by the religious community.
Islam,
Judaism, Mithraism, Buddhists, all of them are true religions.
Christianity is not, even if all the other religions say that it is
a
religion, it is not because I Say So.
I see all religions as being an evolutionary flaw.
Or a coping mechanism.
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| User: "quibbler" |
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| Title: Re: Christianity is not a religion. |
20 Jan 2006 10:25:09 AM |
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In article <1137733481.994580.31150@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
effigies@gmail.com says...
DaveJr wrote:
"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:EHWzf.12110$F_3.412@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net...
Christianity is not a religion.
All the other religions that claim they are religions are religions
as long
as they follow the guidelines set forth by the religious community.
Islam,
Judaism, Mithraism, Buddhists, all of them are true religions.
Christianity is not, even if all the other religions say that it is
a
religion, it is not because I Say So.
I see all religions as being an evolutionary flaw.
Or a coping mechanism.
And a very defective one at that, since it is extraordinarily bad at
actually helping its adherents cope with any of the reality of life.
--
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
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| User: "Chris Johnson" |
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| Title: Re: Christianity is not a religion. |
20 Jan 2006 02:10:40 PM |
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quibbler wrote:
In article <1137733481.994580.31150@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
effigies@gmail.com says...
DaveJr wrote:
"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:EHWzf.12110$F_3.412@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net...
Christianity is not a religion.
All the other religions that claim they are religions are religions
as long
as they follow the guidelines set forth by the religious community.
Islam,
Judaism, Mithraism, Buddhists, all of them are true religions.
Christianity is not, even if all the other religions say that it is
a
religion, it is not because I Say So.
I see all religions as being an evolutionary flaw.
Or a coping mechanism.
And a very defective one at that, since it is extraordinarily bad at
actually helping its adherents cope with any of the reality of life.
Assuming it's in our genes, it would seem the chances are very good
that it's not perfect. Just our physical designs have obvious kludges
that have unpleasant side effects (such as lower back problems as a
result of the sharp angle in the spine that allows us to walk upright).
I suspect that religion itself isn't the mutation, but is a side effect
of our capacity for knowledge and innate curiosity that could not be
satisfied until society had progressed to the point of allowing leisure
time, and we didn't all have to work from dawn to dusk just to feed
ourselves. Combine that with the need to establish hierarchies in order
to live in societies. This would make sense with the religions with
codes of law, as they also give people a place and an ultimate "source"
of morality/ethics/law. (And then when society did progress, we
unfortunately kept the religion.)
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| User: "DaveJr" |
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| Title: Re: Christianity is not a religion. |
20 Jan 2006 03:47:51 PM |
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Or a coping mechanism.
And a very defective one at that, since it is extraordinarily bad
at
actually helping its adherents cope with any of the reality of
life.
Assuming it's in our genes, it would seem the chances are very good
that it's not perfect. Just our physical designs have obvious
kludges
that have unpleasant side effects (such as lower back problems as a
result of the sharp angle in the spine that allows us to walk
upright).
I suspect that religion itself isn't the mutation, but is a side
effect
of our capacity for knowledge and innate curiosity that could not be
satisfied until society had progressed to the point of allowing
leisure
time, and we didn't all have to work from dawn to dusk just to feed
ourselves. Combine that with the need to establish hierarchies in
order
to live in societies. This would make sense with the religions with
codes of law, as they also give people a place and an ultimate
"source"
of morality/ethics/law. (And then when society did progress, we
unfortunately kept the religion.)
As Dawkins puts it, it is the root of all evil. It is the root
of terrorism, it is the root of delusion in the face of obvious
reality, it is responsible for the 'dumbing down' of the human
race. If we (hopefully) approach the phenomenon of religion
as a virus, or virii, we can almost conclude that education is
the syrum. However, these virii(religions) have demonstrated
the ability to also evolve, mutate, and adapt. Just like the common
cold, avian bird flu etc,etc. In a conversation with my father, whom
is also highly anti-religious, I brought up the viral analogy and
mentioned that if thats the case, then religions of the far future are
a scary concept. Adapting and refining itself to the point that any
stranger on the street(already 'infected') can simply walk up to
an uninfected person and recite one little sentance, and whammo,
you walk away mumbling yes master. It is a human-ape
condition that has already been 'in the works' per-say for
millions of years. And as you put it, a side effect of great many
factors. Brain size, cognitive abilities, imaginations, and fear of
the unknown. Fear is a big factor.
It is a little known fact that wild elephants do have funeral
'services'. When one of the herd dies, the rest of the herd
return to the deceased and appear to mourn while caressing
the dead and then they cover the body with branches, dirt,etc.
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| User: "" |
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21 Jan 2006 12:22:33 PM |
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DaveJr wrote:
Or a coping mechanism.
And a very defective one at that, since it is extraordinarily bad
at
actually helping its adherents cope with any of the reality of
life.
Assuming it's in our genes, it would seem the chances are very good
that it's not perfect. Just our physical designs have obvious
kludges
that have unpleasant side effects (such as lower back problems as a
result of the sharp angle in the spine that allows us to walk
upright).
I suspect that religion itself isn't the mutation, but is a side
effect
of our capacity for knowledge and innate curiosity that could not be
satisfied until society had progressed to the point of allowing
leisure
time, and we didn't all have to work from dawn to dusk just to feed
ourselves. Combine that with the need to establish hierarchies in
order
to live in societies. This would make sense with the religions with
codes of law, as they also give people a place and an ultimate
"source"
of morality/ethics/law. (And then when society did progress, we
unfortunately kept the religion.)
As Dawkins puts it, it is the root of all evil. It is the root
Dawkins is not the problem. The problem
is those who pretend to be able to think for
themselves but WHEN given opportunity to do so
run and call a clueless scholar for help.
YOU ARE THE LOSER
of terrorism, it is the root of delusion in the face of obvious
reality, it is responsible for the 'dumbing down' of the human
race. If we (hopefully) approach the phenomenon of religion
as a virus, or virii, we can almost conclude that education is
the syrum. However, these virii(religions) have demonstrated
the ability to also evolve, mutate, and adapt. Just like the common
cold, avian bird flu etc,etc. In a conversation with my father, whom
is also highly anti-religious, I brought up the viral analogy and
mentioned that if thats the case, then religions of the far future are
a scary concept. Adapting and refining itself to the point that any
stranger on the street(already 'infected') can simply walk up to
an uninfected person and recite one little sentance, and whammo,
you walk away mumbling yes master. It is a human-ape
condition that has already been 'in the works' per-say for
millions of years. And as you put it, a side effect of great many
factors. Brain size, cognitive abilities, imaginations, and fear of
the unknown. Fear is a big factor.
It is a little known fact that wild elephants do have funeral
'services'. When one of the herd dies, the rest of the herd
return to the deceased and appear to mourn while caressing
the dead and then they cover the body with branches, dirt,etc.
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| User: "DaveJr" |
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| Title: Re: Christianity is not a religion. |
21 Jan 2006 01:01:01 PM |
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Dawkins is not the problem. The problem
is those who pretend to be able to think for
themselves but WHEN given opportunity to do so
run and call a clueless scholar for help.
YOU ARE THE LOSER
Ha Ha Haaaaa, a borg commenting on
thinking for ones self. I think turning to
figments of imagination is an even greater
loss. In psychiatric terms, you are
'projecting'.
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| User: "" |
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21 Jan 2006 01:31:42 PM |
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DaveJr wrote:
Dawkins is not the problem. The problem
is those who pretend to be able to think for
themselves but WHEN given opportunity to do so
run and call a clueless scholar for help.
YOU ARE THE LOSER
Ha Ha Haaaaa, a borg commenting on
thinking for ones self. I think turning to
figments of imagination is an even greater
loss. In psychiatric terms, you are
'projecting'.
And this is your opinion... The opinion of a mother fucker.
Why should we care?
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| User: "wbarwell" |
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22 Jan 2006 04:20:56 PM |
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wrote:
DaveJr wrote:
Dawkins is not the problem. The problem
is those who pretend to be able to think for
themselves but WHEN given opportunity to do so
run and call a clueless scholar for help.
YOU ARE THE LOSER
Ha Ha Haaaaa, a borg commenting on
thinking for ones self. I think turning to
figments of imagination is an even greater
loss. In psychiatric terms, you are
'projecting'.
And this is your opinion... The opinion of a mother fucker.
Why should we care?
God can easily be proven not to exist.
Thus god does not exist, Jesus is not son
of a non-exisatant god. All religion based on
idea of god is so much codswallop.
Those who realize this are people whose
opinions should be cared about deeply.
IS THERE A GOD?
Strong Atheism's answer.
A BASIC DEFINITION OF GOD.
The general overarching definition of god as per
the major religions of the world is:
A. God is personal, God has will and consciousness.
B. God has free will.
C. God is the creator of all.
D. God is omnipotent.
E. God is omnibenevolent.
F. God is omniscient.
G. God is that which nothing more powerful
can be imagined.
These are the basic attributes that can be claimed
for the god of orthodox Judaism, Christianity,
Islam, and Hinduism.
Omnibenevolence and omniscience are actually
logically derivable from the claimed attribute of
omnipotence and so aren't not truly independent
attributes, and may be considered special aspects
of omnipotence.
There are other attributes of god, that he is the
only such god, that he is is immortal and that
god has always existed that are not important
for this discussion and for now, can be ignored.
They are secondary arguments and are for the most
part not foundational or truly necessary, except
those that can be logically derived from the
attributes listed above.
A CLASS OF GODS
It is important to note here that this is a
definition not for a particular god, but an
entire class of gods.
Sub-theories about god are not important here.
Christianity claims one may attain salvation
only through Jesus, Islam claims the Christian
dogma that Jesus was the son of god is
blasphemous.
Ideas like this though, are of little importance
to the overarching and general claims made for a
personal, creator, omni-everything god. I have
coined a term, The Grand God of Grand Theologies
for this sort of god, this sort of theological
system of expansive claims for god.
Grand theologies are those theologies that have
adopted this class of god as their basic
attributes concerning the nature of god. But it
is important to remember here that what is being
discussed here is a class of gods, not particular
gods or specific gods.
THE FOUR GREAT THEOLOGICAL TRADITIONS
Again, Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Hinduism hold
to this basic Grand God and are typical Grand
Theologies holding to this basic class of god as
their basic definitions of what god is at god's
most basic level.
A big problem with this class of gods is, it
collapses rather easily into internal self-
contradiction.
THE PROBLEM OF EVIL.
The problem of evil was first written down by
Epicurus in about the third century BCE.
Today's formulation is:
A. God is defined as omnipotent;
B. and as omnibenevolent.
C. Evil exists.
D. God therefore, is not omnipotent as claimed.
E. Or God is not omnibenevolent as claimed.
F. Or god is neither omnipotent or
omnibenevolent.
G. Or god is not existant.
THE FREE WILL DEFENSE
The free will defense of the problem of evil goes
back to St. Augustine who popularized it. It is
still popular, and is championed most notably
today by Alvin Plantinga, but also by other
theologians.
God gave man free will. Man freely chooses to do
evil. Ability to do evil is less evil than
lacking free will.
THE FREE WILL DEFENSE DEBUNKED.
God has free will.
God is omnibenevolent, he has a good nature
incapable of doing evil.
A. If god can have free will, and a good nature,
this good nature is not allowed to count
against god's free will.
B. Nor is god's lack of ability to do evil
allowed to count against god's omnipotence.
C. Likewise, man could easily have a god like
free will and a god like good nature.
D. Inabilty then to do evil would no more count
against man's free will than it does for god's
free will.
E. If so, it also counts against god's free will
and god does not have free will as claimed.
F. If god does not have absolute and total free
will, thus free will is not a true necessity
at all.
F. If god is omnipotent and omnibenevolent, and
can give man a god like free will and a
god-like good nature incapable of moral evil,
god must do so or god is not moral, not
omnibenevolent.
G. Evil exists because he allows it to.
So free will does not exist, or it does and we can
have a god like free will and a god like good
nature. Either way, free will cannot explain away
the existence of evil. This free will defense
then, is a failed argument.
OMNISCIENCE VERSUS CREATORHOOD OF GOD
God is defined as creator of all in most
religions.
And god is claimed to be omniscient, all knowing.
A. God created the Universe and all in it.
B. God is omniscient, all knowing, he knows all
in the Universe and he knows the future of the
Universe and its contents.
C. If god creates a Universe, he will know that
in 13 billion years this Universe will have a
man named John Smith in it.
D. If John Smith is good and saved, or evil and
damned, God will know that.
E. As he knows that the Universe in its present
state will have a John Smith, god may then
contemplate the future state of Smith and
decide if he will tolerate an evil Smith.
F. If yes, Smith will be evil only because of a
specific personal and will choice made solely
by god.
G. If Smith is evil, then evil exists solely
because of a choice made by god. In fact all
moral evil done by creations of god will be
evil and do evil only because of personal and
willful creations of god allowing evil acts
to be done, by direct decision of god.
H. If evil exists in a world with an omniscient
creator god, it is solely and only because
god allows evil.
I. If evil exists solely because of personal
choices of god, god then is not as defined,
omnibenevolent.
J. Man and any other sentient being in such a
Universe cannot have any free will, not even
in principle. A Universe with a god that
creates all and knows all precludes free will
for all beings god creates in the strongest
possible manner.
The Grand God of Grand
Theology is thus self destroying, it is
incoherent and contradictory as a theory.
THE SITUATION SO FAR.
1. A minimalistic class of gods is defined, this
Grand God has been defined here with as few
terms as possible.
2. The problem of evil dooms such a claimed god.
3. The attempted defense, free will is fatally
flawed. God's good nature and free will doom
claims free will makes evil necessary for man
to have free will.
4. Omniscience and creatorhood of god further
doom claims of god's omnibenevolence and
man's free will free will cannot exist for
man. All evil is the direct and knowing
creation of god contradicting claims of
omnibenevolence.
5. Since Free will for man is totally impossible,
free will cannot be a good quality, much less
necessary.
Here, the Grand God of Grand Theology has
collapsed. As has Grand
Theology. As pointed out, this destroys the claims
and viability of an entire class of possible
gods,
all secondary and tertiary claims for such a god
of
this class also fail, as do dogmas or secondary
or tertiary claims.
If a these Grand Gods cannot exist as defined,
specific gods cannot, nor can claims such as this
or that Grand God sent this or that revelation to
man or some prophet or did this or that.
God is thus disproven and is utter irrelevant
to anything real and existant.
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It's all coming down! It's all coming down!
IT'S ALL COMING DOWN!
- Texas Chainsaw Massacre II
Cheerful Charlie
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| User: "DaveJr" |
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21 Jan 2006 02:04:27 PM |
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Ha Ha Haaaaa, a borg commenting on
thinking for ones self. I think turning to
figments of imagination is an even greater
loss. In psychiatric terms, you are
'projecting'.
And this is your opinion... The opinion of a mother fucker.
Why should we care?
"Opinion of a mother fu****" - What an intelligent
and enlightened comment. Not to mention highly
immature. Ah yes, feel the love!
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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21 Jan 2006 03:38:58 AM |
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On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 14:47:51 -0700, "DaveJr" <davesbrain@qwest.net>
wrote:
- Refer: <JYcAf.18$Ap5.515@news.uswest.net>
Or a coping mechanism.
And a very defective one at that, since it is extraordinarily bad
at
actually helping its adherents cope with any of the reality of
life.
Assuming it's in our genes, it would seem the chances are very good
that it's not perfect. Just our physical designs have obvious
kludges
that have unpleasant side effects (such as lower back problems as a
result of the sharp angle in the spine that allows us to walk
upright).
I suspect that religion itself isn't the mutation, but is a side
effect
of our capacity for knowledge and innate curiosity that could not be
satisfied until society had progressed to the point of allowing
leisure
time, and we didn't all have to work from dawn to dusk just to feed
ourselves. Combine that with the need to establish hierarchies in
order
to live in societies. This would make sense with the religions with
codes of law, as they also give people a place and an ultimate
"source"
of morality/ethics/law. (And then when society did progress, we
unfortunately kept the religion.)
As Dawkins puts it, it is the root of all evil. It is the root
of terrorism, it is the root of delusion in the face of obvious
reality, it is responsible for the 'dumbing down' of the human
race. If we (hopefully) approach the phenomenon of religion
as a virus, or virii, we can almost conclude that education is
the syrum. However, these virii(religions) have demonstrated
the ability to also evolve, mutate, and adapt. Just like the common
cold, avian bird flu etc,etc. In a conversation with my father, whom
is also highly anti-religious, I brought up the viral analogy and
mentioned that if thats the case, then religions of the far future are
a scary concept. Adapting and refining itself to the point that any
stranger on the street(already 'infected') can simply walk up to
an uninfected person and recite one little sentance, and whammo,
you walk away mumbling yes master. It is a human-ape
condition that has already been 'in the works' per-say for
millions of years. And as you put it, a side effect of great many
factors. Brain size, cognitive abilities, imaginations, and fear of
the unknown. Fear is a big factor.
It is a little known fact that wild elephants do have funeral
'services'. When one of the herd dies, the rest of the herd
return to the deceased and appear to mourn while caressing
the dead and then they cover the body with branches, dirt,etc.
Do you have a reference for this claim?
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| User: "stoney" |
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22 Jan 2006 02:08:52 PM |
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On 19 Jan 2006 21:04:42 -0800, "Chris Johnson" <effigies@gmail.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
DaveJr wrote:
"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:EHWzf.12110$F_3.412@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net...
Christianity is not a religion.
All the other religions that claim they are religions are religions
as long
as they follow the guidelines set forth by the religious community.
Islam,
Judaism, Mithraism, Buddhists, all of them are true religions.
Christianity is not, even if all the other religions say that it is
a
religion, it is not because I Say So.
I see all religions as being an evolutionary flaw.
Or a coping mechanism.
That doesn't work.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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| User: "Uncle Buck" |
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22 Jan 2006 04:01:26 AM |
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On 19 Jan 2006 21:04:42 -0800, "Chris Johnson" <effigies@gmail.com> wrote:
DaveJr wrote:
"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:EHWzf.12110$F_3.412@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net...
Christianity is not a religion.
All the other religions that claim they are religions are religions
as long
as they follow the guidelines set forth by the religious community.
Islam,
Judaism, Mithraism, Buddhists, all of them are true religions.
Christianity is not, even if all the other religions say that it is
a
religion, it is not because I Say So.
I see all religions as being an evolutionary flaw.
Or a coping mechanism.
More like a "psychological fungus". We had stumbled onto "reason", but our
minds had not yet evolved to the point where they could handle anything much
more "reasonable" than *****. From our mindshit, religion did sprout. And much
like the real-life cow-pattie shrooms, some people actually think these
"religious mushrooms" are a delicacy whilst others recognize them as nothing
more than ***** fungus.
--
L8r,
Uncle Buck
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"'True Perfection' would not be sadistic enough
to create anything other than its exact equal."
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Bonus sig:
"Every Buddha just needs some Buddha to love..."
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22 Jan 2006 02:01:31 PM |
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Uncle Buck wrote:
On 19 Jan 2006 21:04:42 -0800, "Chris Johnson" <effigies@gmail.com> wrote:
DaveJr wrote:
"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:EHWzf.12110$F_3.412@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net...
Christianity is not a religion.
All the other religions that claim they are religions are religions
as long
as they follow the guidelines set forth by the religious community.
Islam,
Judaism, Mithraism, Buddhists, all of them are true religions.
Christianity is not, even if all the other religions say that it is
a
religion, it is not because I Say So.
I see all religions as being an evolutionary flaw.
Or a coping mechanism.
More like a "psychological fungus". We had stumbled onto "reason", but our
minds had not yet evolved to the point where they could handle anything much
more "reasonable" than *****. From our mindshit, religion did sprout. And much
like the real-life cow-pattie shrooms, some people actually think these
"religious mushrooms" are a delicacy whilst others recognize them as nothing
more than ***** fungus.
Evol Atheists Only Know About Sunday School Christianity.
What kind of debate should we expect from people like them?
It is annoying to hear those clueless bragging about how
smart and educated they are.
--
L8r,
Uncle Buck
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"'True Perfection' would not be sadistic enough
to create anything other than its exact equal."
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Bonus sig:
"Every Buddha just needs some Buddha to love..."
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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| Title: Re: Evol Atheists Only Know About Sunday School Christianity |
22 Jan 2006 02:08:38 PM |
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On 22 Jan 2006 12:01:31 -0800, "codebreaker@bigsecret.com"
<Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote:
Evol Atheists Only Know About Sunday School Christianity.
What kind of debate should we expect from people like them?
It is annoying to hear those clueless bragging about how
smart and educated they are.
Why are so many creationists such transparent liars?
Evolution is nothing to do with atheism or vice versa.
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22 Jan 2006 02:10:44 PM |
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Christopher A. Lee wrote:
On 22 Jan 2006 12:01:31 -0800, "codebreaker@bigsecret.com"
<Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote:
Evol Atheists Only Know About Sunday School Christianity.
What kind of debate should we expect from people like them?
It is annoying to hear those clueless bragging about how
smart and educated they are.
Why are so many creationists such transparent liars?
Evolution is nothing to do with atheism or vice versa.
Yet all atheists are EVOL. How do you explain that?
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| User: "Matt Silberstein" |
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| Title: Re: Evol Atheists Only Know About Sunday School Christianity |
22 Jan 2006 09:04:40 PM |
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On 22 Jan 2006 12:01:31 -0800, in alt.atheism ,
"codebreaker@bigsecret.com" <Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> in
<1137958797.059167.156170@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> wrote:
Uncle Buck wrote:
On 19 Jan 2006 21:04:42 -0800, "Chris Johnson" <effigies@gmail.com> wrote:
DaveJr wrote:
"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:EHWzf.12110$F_3.412@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net...
Christianity is not a religion.
All the other religions that claim they are religions are religions
as long
as they follow the guidelines set forth by the religious community.
Islam,
Judaism, Mithraism, Buddhists, all of them are true religions.
Christianity is not, even if all the other religions say that it is
a
religion, it is not because I Say So.
I see all religions as being an evolutionary flaw.
Or a coping mechanism.
More like a "psychological fungus". We had stumbled onto "reason", but our
minds had not yet evolved to the point where they could handle anything much
more "reasonable" than *****. From our mindshit, religion did sprout. And much
like the real-life cow-pattie shrooms, some people actually think these
"religious mushrooms" are a delicacy whilst others recognize them as nothing
more than ***** fungus.
Evol Atheists Only Know About Sunday School Christianity.
What kind of debate should we expect from people like them?
It is annoying to hear those clueless bragging about how
smart and educated they are.
I don't know what "evol atheists" are, but I certainly see some
posters here who seem to know very little about Christianity. Some of
them seem to be atheists, some of them claim to be Christians. I also
see people who seem to know lots about Christianity. Again, some call
themselves atheists, some call themselves Christians. I make no claims
about my religion, but I know a bit about Christianity. I suggest that
you avoid making broad comments about heterogeneous groups.
--
Matt Silberstein
Do something today about the Darfur Genocide
http://www.beawitness.org
http://www.darfurgenocide.org
http://www.savedarfur.org
"Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop"
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| User: "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" |
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| Title: Re: Evol Atheists Only Know About Sunday School Christianity |
22 Jan 2006 04:27:19 PM |
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all religion is a crock of *****
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| User: "DaveJr" |
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| Title: Re: Evol Atheists Only Know About Sunday School Christianity |
22 Jan 2006 07:14:56 PM |
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all religion is a crock of *****
Sure is! I agree. Religion is the cause
of 9/11, and terrorism in general. It
truly is the root of all evil. When people
start to wise up, you guys are done.
Buh-Byeee. How many zeus worshippers
do you see walking around these days?
How many osiris temples? Buh-Byeeee.
All things change, including popular social
belief systems. In due time, your precious
gawd will be a thing of the past, just like
zeus, osiris, and the thousands of 'gawds'
that have come and gone. Societies also
EVOVLE!
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| User: "Tink" |
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| Title: AQOTM, was: Re: Evol Atheists Only Know About Sunday School Christianity |
23 Jan 2006 07:15:27 AM |
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DaveJr wrote:
all religion is a crock of *****
/nomination
Sure is! I agree. Religion is the cause
of 9/11, and terrorism in general. It
truly is the root of all evil. When people
start to wise up, you guys are done.
Buh-Byeee. How many zeus worshippers
do you see walking around these days?
How many osiris temples? Buh-Byeeee.
All things change, including popular social
belief systems. In due time, your precious
gawd will be a thing of the past, just like
zeus, osiris, and the thousands of 'gawds'
that have come and gone. Societies also
EVOVLE!
/nomination
Seconds?
--
Skydivers don't knock on death's door; they ring the bell and run
away... It really pisses him off.
The World Famous Tink. (I never heard of you either!!)
AA #2069 ASA#33 POPS# 8808
EAC Chairman, Division of Skydiving and Sushi consumption.
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| User: "Harry F. Leopold" |
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| Title: Re: AQOTM, was: Re: Evol Atheists Only Know About Sunday School Christianity |
24 Jan 2006 11:30:34 AM |
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On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 07:15:27 -0600, Tink wrote
(in article <9aqdnWWjdOxsS0nenZ2dnUVZ_t2dnZ2d@comcast.com>):
DaveJr wrote:
all religion is a crock of *****
/nomination
Sure is! I agree. Religion is the cause
of 9/11, and terrorism in general. It
truly is the root of all evil. When people
start to wise up, you guys are done.
Buh-Byeee. How many zeus worshippers
do you see walking around these days?
How many osiris temples? Buh-Byeeee.
All things change, including popular social
belief systems. In due time, your precious
gawd will be a thing of the past, just like
zeus, osiris, and the thousands of 'gawds'
that have come and gone. Societies also
EVOVLE!
/nomination
Seconds?
I like it, seconded.
--
Harry F. Leopold
aa #2076
AA/Vet #4
The Prints of Darkness
(remove gene to email)
³I proclaim ignorance.³ - J McCoy
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| User: "DaveJr" |
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| Title: Re: AQOTM, was: Re: Evol Atheists Only Know About Sunday School Christianity |
24 Jan 2006 04:04:41 PM |
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DaveJr wrote:
all religion is a crock of *****
/nomination
Sure is! I agree. Religion is the cause
of 9/11, and terrorism in general. It
truly is the root of all evil. When people
start to wise up, you guys are done.
Buh-Byeee. How many zeus worshippers
do you see walking around these days?
How many osiris temples? Buh-Byeeee.
All things change, including popular social
belief systems. In due time, your precious
gawd will be a thing of the past, just like
zeus, osiris, and the thousands of 'gawds'
that have come and gone. Societies also
EVOVLE!
/nomination
Seconds?
I like it, seconded.
I like it too, except for my typo.
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| User: "Harry F. Leopold" |
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| Title: Re: AQOTM, was: Re: Evol Atheists Only Know About Sunday School Christianity |
24 Jan 2006 05:16:59 PM |
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On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 16:04:41 -0600, DaveJr wrote
(in article <GAxBf.100$EG3.3599@news.uswest.net>):
DaveJr wrote:
all religion is a crock of *****
/nomination
Sure is! I agree. Religion is the cause
of 9/11, and terrorism in general. It
truly is the root of all evil. When people
start to wise up, you guys are done.
Buh-Byeee. How many zeus worshippers
do you see walking around these days?
How many osiris temples? Buh-Byeeee.
All things change, including popular social
belief systems. In due time, your precious
gawd will be a thing of the past, just like
zeus, osiris, and the thousands of 'gawds'
that have come and gone. Societies also
EVOLVE!
/nomination
Seconds?
I like it, seconded.
I like it too, except for my typo.
So fix the typo, we won't mind. (Never mind, I fixed it. Hey Nemo, make sure
the typo is fixed.)
--
Harry F. Leopold
aa #2076
AA/Vet #4
The Prints of Darkness
(remove gene to email)
Campus Crusade for Cthulhu
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: AQOTM, was: Re: Evol Atheists Only Know About Sunday School Christianity |
24 Jan 2006 12:45:34 PM |
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Harry F. Leopold wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 07:15:27 -0600, Tink wrote
(in article <9aqdnWWjdOxsS0nenZ2dnUVZ_t2dnZ2d@comcast.com>):
DaveJr wrote:
all religion is a crock of *****
/nomination
Sure is! I agree. Religion is the cause
of 9/11, and terrorism in general. It
truly is the root of all evil. When people
start to wise up, you guys are done.
Buh-Byeee. How many zeus worshippers
do you see walking around these days?
How many osiris temples? Buh-Byeeee.
All things change, including popular social
belief systems. In due time, your precious
gawd will be a thing of the past, just like
zeus, osiris, and the thousands of 'gawds'
that have come and gone. Societies also
EVOVLE!
/nomination
Seconds?
I like it, seconded.
No, you don't, you *****. What do you like
about that garbage?
--
Harry F. Leopold
aa #2076
AA/Vet #4
The Prints of Darkness
(remove gene to email)
=20
=B3I proclaim ignorance.=B3 - J McCoy
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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| Title: Re: AQOTM, was: Re: Evol Atheists Only Know About Sunday School Christianity |
24 Jan 2006 09:45:04 PM |
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Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet
(Codebreaker@bigsecret.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
Harry F. Leopold wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 07:15:27 -0600, Tink wrote
(in article <9aqdnWWjdOxsS0nenZ2dnUVZ_t2dnZ2d@comcast.com>):
DaveJr wrote:
all religion is a crock of *****
/nomination
Sure is! I agree. Religion is the cause
of 9/11, and terrorism in general. It
truly is the root of all evil. When people
start to wise up, you guys are done.
Buh-Byeee. How many zeus worshippers
do you see walking around these days?
How many osiris temples? Buh-Byeeee.
All things change, including popular social
belief systems. In due time, your precious
gawd will be a thing of the past, just like
zeus, osiris, and the thousands of 'gawds'
that have come and gone. Societies also
EVOVLE!
/nomination
Seconds?
I like it, seconded.
No, you don't, you *****. What do you like
about that garbage?
I like it because it pisses you off.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011, aw Hellboy #5
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: AQOTM, was: Re: Evol Atheists Only Know About Sunday School Christianity |
25 Jan 2006 12:10:57 PM |
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On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 21:45:04 -0600, Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet
(Codebreaker@bigsecret.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
Harry F. Leopold wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 07:15:27 -0600, Tink wrote
(in article <9aqdnWWjdOxsS0nenZ2dnUVZ_t2dnZ2d@comcast.com>):
DaveJr wrote:
all religion is a crock of *****
/nomination
Sure is! I agree. Religion is the cause
of 9/11, and terrorism in general. It
truly is the root of all evil. When people
start to wise up, you guys are done.
Buh-Byeee. How many zeus worshippers
do you see walking around these days?
How many osiris temples? Buh-Byeeee.
All things change, including popular social
belief systems. In due time, your precious
gawd will be a thing of the past, just like
zeus, osiris, and the thousands of 'gawds'
that have come and gone. Societies also
EVOVLE!
/nomination
Seconds?
I like it, seconded.
No, you don't, you *****. What do you like
about that garbage?
I like it because it pisses you off.
It settles for that when it can't be pissed on.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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| User: "Harry F. Leopold" |
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| Title: Re: AQOTM, was: Re: Evol Atheists Only Know About Sunday School Christianity |
24 Jan 2006 11:03:47 PM |
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On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 21:45:04 -0600, Uncle Vic wrote
(in article <Xns9755C8CCAB65Dvicman@216.196.97.136>):
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet
(Codebreaker@bigsecret.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
Harry F. Leopold wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 07:15:27 -0600, Tink wrote
(in article <9aqdnWWjdOxsS0nenZ2dnUVZ_t2dnZ2d@comcast.com>):
DaveJr wrote:
all religion is a crock of *****
/nomination
Sure is! I agree. Religion is the cause
of 9/11, and terrorism in general. It
truly is the root of all evil. When people
start to wise up, you guys are done.
Buh-Byeee. How many zeus worshippers
do you see walking around these days?
How many osiris temples? Buh-Byeeee.
All things change, including popular social
belief systems. In due time, your precious
gawd will be a thing of the past, just like
zeus, osiris, and the thousands of 'gawds'
that have come and gone. Societies also
EVOVLE!
/nomination
Seconds?
I like it, seconded.
No, you don't, you *****. What do you like
about that garbage?
Codefucker, as a mind reader you stink. But than I suppose you stink in many
ways. Do not try to tell me what I like, or dislike. You don't have that
right.
I like it because it pisses you off.
I liked it because it was a damned good comment. If it pisses of Codefucker
so much the better.
Don't try to respond to me, Cofefucker, I have you in the kill file, where
you have been for quite some time now, several years in fact.
--
Harry F. Leopold
aa #2076
AA/Vet #4
The Prints of Darkness
(remove gene to email)
³I proclaim ignorance.³ - J McCoy
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: AQOTM, was: Re: Evol Atheists Only Know About Sunday School Christianity |
25 Jan 2006 10:14:34 AM |
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Harry F. Leopold wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 21:45:04 -0600, Uncle Vic wrote
(in article <Xns9755C8CCAB65Dvicman@216.196.97.136>):
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet
(Codebreaker@bigsecret.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
Harry F. Leopold wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 07:15:27 -0600, Tink wrote
(in article <9aqdnWWjdOxsS0nenZ2dnUVZ_t2dnZ2d@comcast.com>):
DaveJr wrote:
all religion is a crock of *****
/nomination
Sure is! I agree. Religion is the cause
of 9/11, and terrorism in general. It
truly is the root of all evil. When people
start to wise up, you guys are done.
Buh-Byeee. How many zeus worshippers
do you see walking around these days?
How many osiris temples? Buh-Byeeee.
All things change, including popular social
belief systems. In due time, your precious
gawd will be a thing of the past, just like
zeus, osiris, and the thousands of 'gawds'
that have come and gone. Societies also
EVOVLE!
/nomination
Seconds?
I like it, seconded.
No, you don't, you *****. What do you like
about that garbage?
Codefucker, as a mind reader you stink. But than I suppose you stink in m=
any
ways. Do not try to tell me what I like, or dislike. You don't have that
right.
I like it because it pisses you off.
I liked it because it was a damned good comment. If it pisses of Codefuck=
er
so much the better.
Don't try to respond to me, Cofefucker, I have you in the kill file, where
you have been for quite some time now, several years in fact.
Hahahahahahahaahhahahahahahahahaha LOL
How low these EVOL ATHEISTS can get?
--
Harry F. Leopold
aa #2076
AA/Vet #4
The Prints of Darkness
(remove gene to email)
=20
=B3I proclaim ignorance.=B3 - J McCoy
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| User: "*nemo*" |
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| Title: Re: AQOTM, was: Re: Evol Atheists Only Know About Sunday School Christianity |
25 Jan 2006 02:35:37 AM |
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In article <0001HW.BFFBC05A003B92FBF0284550@news.central.cox.net>,
Harry F. Leopold <hleopold@coxyx.net> wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 07:15:27 -0600, Tink wrote
(in article <9aqdnWWjdOxsS0nenZ2dnUVZ_t2dnZ2d@comcast.com>):
DaveJr wrote:
all religion is a crock of *****
/nomination
Sure is! I agree. Religion is the cause
of 9/11, and terrorism in general. It
truly is the root of all evil. When people
start to wise up, you guys are done.
Buh-Byeee. How many zeus worshippers
do you see walking around these days?
How many osiris temples? Buh-Byeeee.
All things change, including popular social
belief systems. In due time, your precious
gawd will be a thing of the past, just like
zeus, osiris, and the thousands of 'gawds'
that have come and gone. Societies also
EVOVLE!
/nomination
Seconds?
I like it, seconded.
Recorded. Typo corrected as a courtesy.
--
Nemo - EAC Commissioner for Bible Belt Underwater Operations.
Atheist #1331 (the Palindrome of doom!)
BAAWA Knight! - One of those warm Southern Knights, y'all!
Charter member, SMASH!!
http://home.earthlink.net/~jehdjh/Relpg.html
Draco Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus
Quotemeister since March 2002
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Evol Atheists Only Know About Sunday School Christianity |
23 Jan 2006 10:12:34 AM |
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DaveJr wrote:
all religion is a crock of *****
Sure is! I agree. Religion is the cause
of 9/11, and terrorism in general. It
truly is the root of all evil. When people
start to wise up, you guys are done.
Buh-Byeee. How many zeus worshippers
do you see walking around these days?
How many osiris temples? Buh-Byeeee.
All things change, including popular social
belief systems. In due time, your precious
gawd will be a thing of the past, just like
zeus, osiris, and the thousands of 'gawds'
that have come and gone. Societies also
EVOVLE!
Zeus, Oziris and the thousand gods who came, have gone
thanks to the true and real GOD of the Monotheism who by
coming down as Christ Jesus shed light where there was
obscurity. Yet you refuse to give him glory.
How dare. Jesus Christ will never pass away. Live with this
fact, LOSER
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