| Topic: |
Religions > Atheism |
| User: |
"Kenny Leong" |
| Date: |
16 Apr 2005 06:36:43 PM |
| Object: |
Christianity...the biggest cult ever? |
What do you think folks? Do you reckon christianity is the biggest cult of all time?
.
|
|
| User: "kathryn" |
|
| Title: Re: Christianity...the biggest cult ever? |
17 Apr 2005 10:25:25 AM |
|
|
"Kenny Leong" <kenny_tm_leong@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:29154d7c.0504161536.4b4fb8c2@posting.google.com...
What do you think folks? Do you reckon christianity is the biggest cult of
all time?
Yep
Ive stood in school assembly with oooh 1000 pupils and listening to them
chanting the lords prayer. Freaky and not in a good way.
.
|
|
|
| User: "Kenny Leong" |
|
| Title: Re: Christianity...the biggest cult ever? |
18 Apr 2005 03:30:33 PM |
|
|
"kathryn" <bob@bobbybobbobthebobster.com> wrote in message news:<d3tv55$5o$1@sparta.btinternet.com>...
"Kenny Leong" <kenny_tm_leong@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:29154d7c.0504161536.4b4fb8c2@posting.google.com...
What do you think folks? Do you reckon christianity is the biggest cult of
all time?
Yep
Ive stood in school assembly with oooh 1000 pupils and listening to them
chanting the lords prayer. Freaky and not in a good way.
I remember those times. I thought it was just crazy to do that. I can
understand standing for the national anthem, which is just
fine...since it's truly patriotic. But chanting to an obviously
make-believe character who does absolutely nothing, and yet at the
same time allows or causes disasters to kill lots of people.......it's
ridiculous.
Kenny
.
|
|
|
| User: "stoney" |
|
| Title: Re: Christianity...the biggest cult ever? |
20 Apr 2005 04:51:53 PM |
|
|
On 18 Apr 2005 13:30:33 -0700, (Kenny Leong)
wrote:
"kathryn" <bob@bobbybobbobthebobster.com> wrote in message news:<d3tv55$5o$1@sparta.btinternet.com>...
"Kenny Leong" < > wrote in message
news:29154d7c.0504161536.4b4fb8c2@posting.google.com...
What do you think folks? Do you reckon christianity is the biggest cult of
all time?
Yep
Ive stood in school assembly with oooh 1000 pupils and listening to them
chanting the lords prayer. Freaky and not in a good way.
I remember those times. I thought it was just crazy to do that. I can
understand standing for the national anthem, which is just
fine...since it's truly patriotic.
Is it really? I wonder.
/musing
Going through a group 'jack-in-the-box' ritual has nothing to do with
patriotism. There are many who go through the ritual with one hand
while betraying with the other.
I was career military and would exit the base theatre lobby into the
theatre once the empty ritual was completed.
But chanting to an obviously
make-believe character who does absolutely nothing, and yet at the
same time allows or causes disasters to kill lots of people.......it's
ridiculous.
Kenny
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
.
|
|
|
| User: "Kenny Leong" |
|
| Title: Re: Christianity...the biggest cult ever? |
22 Apr 2005 05:55:10 AM |
|
|
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote in message news:<6uid619h79inllqdampandefe8o248hprh@4ax.com>...
On 18 Apr 2005 13:30:33 -0700, (Kenny Leong)
wrote:
"kathryn" <bob@bobbybobbobthebobster.com> wrote in message news:<d3tv55$5o$1@sparta.btinternet.com>...
"Kenny Leong" < > wrote in message
news:29154d7c.0504161536.4b4fb8c2@posting.google.com...
What do you think folks? Do you reckon christianity is the biggest cult of
all time?
Yep
Ive stood in school assembly with oooh 1000 pupils and listening to them
chanting the lords prayer. Freaky and not in a good way.
I remember those times. I thought it was just crazy to do that. I can
understand standing for the national anthem, which is just
fine...since it's truly patriotic.
Is it really? I wonder.
yeah....maybe. I guess they just want everybody to respect..or at
least, have the impression that everybody is kind of united to respect
and honour the country and people. But of course, there's always going
to be folks that don't care....but are still forced to stand and
endure the music and singing etc. I personally just stand and show my
respect...but as for the music and singing etc...I think that's kind
of overkill.
/musing
Going through a group 'jack-in-the-box' ritual has nothing to do with
patriotism. There are many who go through the ritual with one hand
while betraying with the other.
I know kind of what you mean, but I think they just do it for
something to show for it, even if some don't follow the same kind of
spirit... when I mean spirit...I mean like.... what we feel. Nothing
to do with ghost spirits and all that nonsense.
I was career military and would exit the base theatre lobby into the
theatre once the empty ritual was completed.
Yeah...I guess that rituals are kind of primitive now that you mention
it.
But chanting to an obviously
make-believe character who does absolutely nothing, and yet at the
same time allows or causes disasters to kill lots of people.......it's
ridiculous.
Kenny
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
.
|
|
|
| User: "stoney" |
|
| Title: Re: Christianity...the biggest cult ever? |
22 Apr 2005 03:54:12 PM |
|
|
On 22 Apr 2005 03:55:10 -0700, (Kenny Leong)
wrote:
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote in message news:<6uid619h79inllqdampandefe8o248hprh@4ax.com>...
On 18 Apr 2005 13:30:33 -0700, (Kenny Leong)
wrote:
"kathryn" <bob@bobbybobbobthebobster.com> wrote in message news:<d3tv55$5o$1@sparta.btinternet.com>...
"Kenny Leong" < > wrote in message
news:29154d7c.0504161536.4b4fb8c2@posting.google.com...
What do you think folks? Do you reckon christianity is the biggest cult of
all time?
Yep
Ive stood in school assembly with oooh 1000 pupils and listening to them
chanting the lords prayer. Freaky and not in a good way.
I remember those times. I thought it was just crazy to do that. I can
understand standing for the national anthem, which is just
fine...since it's truly patriotic.
Is it really? I wonder.
yeah....maybe. I guess they just want everybody to respect..or at
least, have the impression that everybody is kind of united to respect
and honour the country and people.
Posturing, imo, isn't respect or honour.
But of course, there's always going
to be folks that don't care....but are still forced to stand and
endure the music and singing etc. I personally just stand and show my
respect...but as for the music and singing etc...I think that's kind
of overkill.
/musing
Going through a group 'jack-in-the-box' ritual has nothing to do with
patriotism. There are many who go through the ritual with one hand
while betraying with the other.
I know kind of what you mean, but I think they just do it for
something to show for it,
"To be seen by men" rings a bell.
even if some don't follow the same kind of
spirit... when I mean spirit...I mean like.... what we feel. Nothing
to do with ghost spirits and all that nonsense.
Societal programming.
I was career military and would exit the base theatre lobby into the
theatre once the empty ritual was completed.
Yeah...I guess that rituals are kind of primitive now that you mention
it.
Conditioned responses.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "Santolina chamaecyparissus" |
|
| Title: Re: Christianity...the biggest cult ever? |
16 Apr 2005 08:09:14 PM |
|
|
Kenny Leong <kenny_tm_leong@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:29154d7c.0504161536.4b4fb8c2@posting.google.com...
What do you think folks? Do you reckon christianity is the biggest cult of
all time?
Of course it is, by definition, assuming you are using definition 1a. of
"cult".
_________________________________________
Usenet Zone Free Binaries Usenet Server
More than 120,000 groups
Unlimited download
http://www.usenetzone.com to open account
.
|
|
|
| User: "DanielSan" |
|
| Title: Re: Christianity...the biggest cult ever? |
16 Apr 2005 09:03:39 PM |
|
|
Santolina chamaecyparissus wrote:
Kenny Leong <kenny_tm_leong@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:29154d7c.0504161536.4b4fb8c2@posting.google.com...
What do you think folks? Do you reckon christianity is the biggest cult of
all time?
Of course it is, by definition, assuming you are using definition 1a. of
"cult".
And 1b, 2, 3, 4, 5a, 5b, and 6.
cult: n.
1a. A religion or religious sect generally considered to be extremist or
false, with its followers often living in an unconventional manner under
the guidance of an authoritarian, charismatic leader.
1b. The followers of such a religion or sect.
2. A system or community of religious worship and ritual.
3. The formal means of expressing religious reverence; religious
ceremony and ritual.
4. A usually nonscientific method or regimen claimed by its originator
to have exclusive or exceptional power in curing a particular disease.
5a. Obsessive, especially faddish, devotion to or veneration for a
person, principle, or thing.
5b. The object of such devotion.
6. An exclusive group of persons sharing an esoteric, usually artistic
or intellectual interest.
.
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "georgann" |
|
| Title: Re: Christianity...the biggest cult ever? |
16 Apr 2005 07:55:05 PM |
|
|
Kenny Leong wrote:
What do you think folks? Do you reckon christianity is the biggest cult of all
time?
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
Actually, true Christianity is the only non-cult in the world. All other
"religions", beliefs or philosophies about G/god are based on a person's
extra sense of G/god.
Whereas genuine Christianity is the actual knowledge of who God is (by way
of personal introduction) and it involves an ongoing relationship with Him.
You can't have an ongoing relationship with an impersonal or non-existent
God. Of course not all Christians have a very tight relationship with God
and some Christians end up in Christian-cults (seemingly Christian not
genuine) because their relationships with God are too distant. Some people
haven't the courage it takes to continue to grow in a closer relationship to
God. It isn't easy because He pulls you into growing away from your faults
and into greater wholeness. Most people haven't the courage to face their
faults and grow.
--
(`'·.¸(`'·.¸(`'·.¸ ¸.·'´)¸.·'´)¸.·'´)
«´¨`·.¸¸ ¸¸.·´¨ `»
"As Benjamin Franklin left the State House in Philadelphia
on the closing day of the Constitutional Convention, a woman
asked him what kind of government the statesmen had given America.
Franklin replied: 'A republic, Madame, if you can keep it.'
http://www.boingboing.net/images/Purple-USA.jpg
http://www.princeton.edu/~rvdb/JAVA/election2004/
(¸.·'´(¸.·'´(¸.·'´ `'·.¸)`'·.¸)`'·.¸)
.
|
|
|
| User: "Peacenik" |
|
| Title: Re: Christianity...the biggest cult ever? |
17 Apr 2005 05:59:43 AM |
|
|
"georgann" <chenault@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:BE872C28.5CEBA%chenault@mindspring.com...
Kenny Leong wrote:
What do you think folks? Do you reckon christianity is the biggest cult
of all
time?
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
Actually, true Christianity is the only non-cult in the world.
That's what ALL cultists say: "MY religion is not a cult, but all the others
are!"
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "Robibnikoff" |
|
| Title: Re: Christianity...the biggest cult ever? |
16 Apr 2005 08:42:04 PM |
|
|
"georgann" <chenault@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:BE872C28.5CEBA%chenault@mindspring.com...
Kenny Leong wrote:
What do you think folks? Do you reckon christianity is the biggest cult
of all
time?
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
Actually, true Christianity is the only non-cult in the world.
Oh, what baloney.
--
---------
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
.
|
|
|
| User: "stoney" |
|
| Title: Re: Christianity...the biggest cult ever? |
20 Apr 2005 04:26:55 PM |
|
|
On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 21:42:04 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"georgann" <chenault@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:BE872C28.5CEBA%chenault@mindspring.com...
Kenny Leong wrote:
What do you think folks? Do you reckon christianity is the biggest cult
of all
time?
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
Actually, true Christianity is the only non-cult in the world.
Oh, what baloney.
Georgann loves baring false witness and adultery.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "DanielSan" |
|
| Title: Re: Christianity...the biggest cult ever? |
16 Apr 2005 09:13:25 PM |
|
|
Robibnikoff wrote:
"georgann" <chenault@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:BE872C28.5CEBA%chenault@mindspring.com...
Kenny Leong wrote:
What do you think folks? Do you reckon christianity is the biggest cult
of all
time?
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
Actually, true Christianity is the only non-cult in the world.
Oh, what baloney.
Mmmm.... baloney. Some cheese, mustard, lettuce, tomato, all on rye
bread. *drools*
.
|
|
|
| User: "The Great Hairy One" |
|
| Title: Re: Christianity...the biggest cult ever? |
17 Apr 2005 03:03:47 AM |
|
|
In article <Fsqdnan6EtqsW_zfRVn-hA@comcast.com>, daniel-
san@myrealbox.com says...
Mmmm.... baloney. Some cheese, mustard, lettuce, tomato, all on rye
bread. *drools*
Now I'm hungry!
--
The Great Hairy One,
ICQ: 118086514
All BAAWA and blue
SMASH! Aha! They'll save every one of us!
====================================
CEO EAC Roleplaying Division
The last thing many players
hear is me asking for 45d6...
(Remove spam block to email)
.
|
|
|
| User: "stoney" |
|
| Title: Re: Christianity...the biggest cult ever? |
20 Apr 2005 04:27:46 PM |
|
|
On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 18:03:47 +1000, The Great Hairy One
<the.great.hairy@GEEmail.com> wrote:
In article <Fsqdnan6EtqsW_zfRVn-hA@comcast.com>, daniel-
san@myrealbox.com says...
Mmmm.... baloney. Some cheese, mustard, lettuce, tomato, all on rye
bread. *drools*
Now I'm hungry!
Eat Grace. ;)
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
.
|
|
|
| User: "Liquid Grace" |
|
| Title: Re: Christianity...the biggest cult ever? |
22 Apr 2005 07:13:59 AM |
|
|
In article <t9id61poltbaqlu87i4p10f7gr4e2vv0cr@4ax.com>,
leapt about on one foot, screaching...
On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 18:03:47 +1000, The Great Hairy One
<the.great.hairy@GEEmail.com> wrote:
In article <Fsqdnan6EtqsW_zfRVn-hA@comcast.com>, daniel-
san@myrealbox.com says...
Mmmm.... baloney. Some cheese, mustard, lettuce, tomato, all on rye
bread. *drools*
Now I'm hungry!
Eat Grace. ;)
*sigh*
Grace
--
EAC Vile Harridan and Deranged Harpy
a.a. #1752, BAAWA Knight who Demands Shrubbery!
Lost In Oz....
.
|
|
|
| User: "stoney" |
|
| Title: Re: Christianity...the biggest cult ever? |
22 Apr 2005 03:50:15 PM |
|
|
On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 22:13:59 +1000, Liquid Grace <yes@istillthink.not>
wrote:
In article <t9id61poltbaqlu87i4p10f7gr4e2vv0cr@4ax.com>,
leapt about on one foot, screaching...
On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 18:03:47 +1000, The Great Hairy One
<the.great.hairy@GEEmail.com> wrote:
In article <Fsqdnan6EtqsW_zfRVn-hA@comcast.com>, daniel-
san@myrealbox.com says...
Mmmm.... baloney. Some cheese, mustard, lettuce, tomato, all on rye
bread. *drools*
Now I'm hungry!
Eat Grace. ;)
*sigh*
/grace
Eat all you want, I'll make more.... ;)
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
.
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "The Great Hairy One" |
|
| Title: Re: Christianity...the biggest cult ever? |
21 Apr 2005 04:36:06 PM |
|
|
In article <t9id61poltbaqlu87i4p10f7gr4e2vv0cr@4ax.com>,
says...
Eat Grace. ;)
Hey, this is a children's newsgroup, you dirty little pervert!
;)
--
The Great Hairy One,
ICQ: 118086514
All BAAWA and blue
SMASH! Aha! They'll save every one of us!
====================================
CEO EAC Roleplaying Division
The last thing many players
hear is me asking for 45d6...
(Remove spam block to email)
.
|
|
|
| User: "stoney" |
|
| Title: Re: Christianity...the biggest cult ever? |
22 Apr 2005 03:49:38 PM |
|
|
On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 07:36:06 +1000, The Great Hairy One
<the.great.hairy@GEEmail.com> wrote:
In article <t9id61poltbaqlu87i4p10f7gr4e2vv0cr@4ax.com>,
says...
Eat Grace. ;)
Hey, this is a children's newsgroup, you dirty little pervert!
;)
Moi? /me points to the "Bee Healthy Eat Your Honey" bumper sticker.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "Vic Sagerquist" |
|
| Title: Re: Christianity...the biggest cult ever? |
16 Apr 2005 10:01:45 PM |
|
|
On 16 Apr 2005, DanielSan dropped trou, farted, whirled, then shouted:
Robibnikoff wrote:
"georgann" <chenault@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:BE872C28.5CEBA%chenault@mindspring.com...
Kenny Leong wrote:
What do you think folks? Do you reckon christianity is the biggest
cult of all
time?
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
Actually, true Christianity is the only non-cult in the world.
Oh, what baloney.
Mmmm.... baloney. Some cheese, mustard, lettuce, tomato, all on rye
bread. *drools*
Yes. Just about anything sounds good after a 40 of Mickey's.
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
Plonked by Jason Gastrich for all eternity...
______________
As you were, I was. As I am, you will be.
--- Hunter S. Thompson
.
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "Ash" |
|
| Title: Re: Christianity...the biggest cult ever? |
17 Apr 2005 04:28:34 AM |
|
|
Robibnikoff wrote:
"georgann" <chenault@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:BE872C28.5CEBA%chenault@mindspring.com...
Kenny Leong wrote:
What do you think folks? Do you reckon christianity is the biggest cult
of all
time?
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
Actually, true Christianity is the only non-cult in the world.
Oh, what baloney.
You expected otherwise?
.
|
|
|
| User: "Robibnikoff" |
|
| Title: Re: Christianity...the biggest cult ever? |
17 Apr 2005 07:59:27 AM |
|
|
"Ash" <ashamanic@winterfell73.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:d3ta7u$6fa$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...
Robibnikoff wrote:
"georgann" <chenault@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:BE872C28.5CEBA%chenault@mindspring.com...
Kenny Leong wrote:
What do you think folks? Do you reckon christianity is the biggest cult
of all
time?
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
Actually, true Christianity is the only non-cult in the world.
Oh, what baloney.
You expected otherwise?
Of course not ;)
--
---------
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "rj" |
|
| Title: Re: Christianity...the biggest cult ever? |
18 Apr 2005 10:45:44 PM |
|
|
Ash <ashamanic@winterfell73.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in news:d3ta7u$6fa$1
@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk:
Robibnikoff wrote:
"georgann" <chenault@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:BE872C28.5CEBA%chenault@mindspring.com...
Kenny Leong wrote:
What do you think folks? Do you reckon christianity is the biggest cult
of all
time?
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
Actually, true Christianity is the only non-cult in the world.
Oh, what baloney.
You expected otherwise?
Actually I think he is right. The problem is there hasn't been a true
christian since jesus and it is apparent that there won't ever be one.
rj
--
"I'm an atheist, thank God." - Dave Allen
.
|
|
|
| User: "stoney" |
|
| Title: Re: Christianity...the biggest cult ever? |
20 Apr 2005 04:35:17 PM |
|
|
On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 03:45:44 GMT, rj <rj@yahoo.com> wrote:
Ash <ashamanic@winterfell73.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in news:d3ta7u$6fa$1
@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk:
Robibnikoff wrote:
"georgann" <chenault@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:BE872C28.5CEBA%chenault@mindspring.com...
Kenny Leong wrote:
What do you think folks? Do you reckon christianity is the biggest cult
of all
time?
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
Actually, true Christianity is the only non-cult in the world.
Oh, what baloney.
You expected otherwise?
Actually I think he is right. The problem is there hasn't been a true
christian since jesus and it is apparent that there won't ever be one.
If you're going by hypocrisy and lies, then all xtians are 'true
xtians' since 'Jesus' set the standard.
If you go by what 'Jesus' says are signs of a christian then there
isn't a christian on the planet.
If you go by what christians prattle christianity is then there hasn't
been a christian on the planet since the fictional Jesus didn't
qualify either.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "Denis Loubet" |
|
| Title: Re: Christianity...the biggest cult ever? |
16 Apr 2005 09:29:00 PM |
|
|
"georgann" <chenault@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:BE872C28.5CEBA%chenault@mindspring.com...
Kenny Leong wrote:
What do you think folks? Do you reckon christianity is the biggest cult
of all
time?
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
Actually, true Christianity is the only non-cult in the world. All other
"religions", beliefs or philosophies about G/god are based on a person's
extra sense of G/god.
Whereas genuine Christianity is the actual knowledge of who God is (by way
of personal introduction) and it involves an ongoing relationship with
Him.
You can't have an ongoing relationship with an impersonal or non-existent
God. Of course not all Christians have a very tight relationship with God
and some Christians end up in Christian-cults (seemingly Christian not
genuine) because their relationships with God are too distant. Some people
haven't the courage it takes to continue to grow in a closer relationship
to
God. It isn't easy because He pulls you into growing away from your faults
and into greater wholeness. Most people haven't the courage to face their
faults and grow.
I keep asking Christians how they know what they've got a relationship with
is god, and I keep getting no answer. Just how does one go about identifying
a god? Photo ID? Do they compare it with a known god?
It must be pretty damn convincing, because people like georgann are
absolutely certain that they've correctly identified the supernatural entity
they think they have the relationship with. They believe they CANNOT be
wrong about it. They believe they CANNOT be fooled.
As far as I can tell, they're just guessing.
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
.
|
|
|
| User: "georgann" |
|
| Title: Re: Christianity...the biggest cult ever? |
17 Apr 2005 06:57:22 PM |
|
|
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
Actually, true Christianity is the only non-cult in the world. All other
"religions", beliefs or philosophies about G/god are based on a person's
extra sense of G/god.
Whereas genuine Christianity is the actual knowledge of who God is (by way of
personal introduction) and it involves an ongoing relationship with Him. You
can't have an ongoing relationship with an impersonal or non-existent God. Of
course not all Christians have a very tight relationship with God and some
Christians end up in Christian-cults (seemingly Christian not genuine)
because their relationships with God are too distant. Some people haven't the
courage it takes to continue to grow in a closer relationship to God. It
isn't easy because He pulls you into growing away from your faults and into
greater wholeness. Most people haven't the courage to face their faults and
grow.
Denis Loubet wrote:
I keep asking Christians how they know what they've got a relationship with is
god, and I keep getting no answer. Just how does one go about identifying a
god? Photo ID? Do they compare it with a known god?
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
It because its more real and convincing than knowing yourself. God is 10X
more real than yourself when you know Him.
Denis Loubet wrote:
It must be pretty damn convincing, because people like georgann are absolutely
certain that they've correctly identified the supernatural entity they think
they have the relationship with. They believe they CANNOT be wrong about it.
They believe they CANNOT be fooled.
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
It's pretty damn convincing. And I am certain.
Denis Loubet wrote:
As far as I can tell, they're just guessing.
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
That's just cause you don't know yet.
--
(`'·.¸(`'·.¸(`'·.¸ ¸.·'´)¸.·'´)¸.·'´)
«´¨`·.¸¸ ¸¸.·´¨ `»
"As Benjamin Franklin left the State House in Philadelphia
on the closing day of the Constitutional Convention, a woman
asked him what kind of government the statesmen had given America.
Franklin replied: 'A republic, Madame, if you can keep it.'
http://www.boingboing.net/images/Purple-USA.jpg
http://www.princeton.edu/~rvdb/JAVA/election2004/
(¸.·'´(¸.·'´(¸.·'´ `'·.¸)`'·.¸)`'·.¸)
.
|
|
|
| User: "Denis Loubet" |
|
| Title: Re: Christianity...the biggest cult ever? |
18 Apr 2005 02:06:51 PM |
|
|
"georgann" <chenault@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:BE887021.5D27F%chenault@mindspring.com...
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
Actually, true Christianity is the only non-cult in the world. All other
"religions", beliefs or philosophies about G/god are based on a person's
extra sense of G/god.
Whereas genuine Christianity is the actual knowledge of who God is (by
way of
personal introduction) and it involves an ongoing relationship with Him.
You
can't have an ongoing relationship with an impersonal or non-existent
God. Of
course not all Christians have a very tight relationship with God and
some
Christians end up in Christian-cults (seemingly Christian not genuine)
because their relationships with God are too distant. Some people
haven't the
courage it takes to continue to grow in a closer relationship to God. It
isn't easy because He pulls you into growing away from your faults and
into
greater wholeness. Most people haven't the courage to face their faults
and
grow.
Denis Loubet wrote:
I keep asking Christians how they know what they've got a relationship
with is
god, and I keep getting no answer. Just how does one go about identifying
a
god? Photo ID? Do they compare it with a known god?
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
It because its more real and convincing than knowing yourself. God is 10X
more real than yourself when you know Him.
Couldn't it be the devil fooling you?
Denis Loubet wrote:
It must be pretty damn convincing, because people like georgann are
absolutely
certain that they've correctly identified the supernatural entity they
think
they have the relationship with. They believe they CANNOT be wrong about
it.
They believe they CANNOT be fooled.
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
It's pretty damn convincing. And I am certain.
To be certain, you must claim omniscience regarding your ability to identify
gods. That's quite a claim.
Are you saying it's impossible for a supernatural being to fool you?
Denis Loubet wrote:
As far as I can tell, they're just guessing.
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
That's just cause you don't know yet.
You don't know either, you just believe.
You could be following a devil, or simply the voices in your own head.
You have no way of knowing. No way of checking.
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http:/www.io.com/~dloubet
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "Elroy Willis" |
|
| Title: Re: Christianity...the biggest cult ever? |
22 Apr 2005 08:14:23 AM |
|
|
georgann <chenault@mindspring.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Denis Loubet wrote:
I keep asking Christians how they know what they've got a relationship with is
god, and I keep getting no answer. Just how does one go about identifying a
god? Photo ID? Do they compare it with a known god?
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
It because its more real and convincing than knowing yourself. God is 10X
more real than yourself when you know Him.
That's what schizophrenics say about the voices in their heads.
Don't you find it interesting that our courts won't accept "God told
me to do it," or "the devil told me to do it," as an excuse for
whatever the person did? Do you think this should be changed?
--
Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com
.
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "stoney" |
|
| Title: Re: Christianity...the biggest cult ever? |
20 Apr 2005 04:36:00 PM |
|
|
On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 21:29:00 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com>
wrote:
"georgann" <chenault@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:BE872C28.5CEBA%chenault@mindspring.com...
Kenny Leong wrote:
What do you think folks? Do you reckon christianity is the biggest cult
of all
time?
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
Actually, true Christianity is the only non-cult in the world. All other
"religions", beliefs or philosophies about G/god are based on a person's
extra sense of G/god.
Whereas genuine Christianity is the actual knowledge of who God is (by way
of personal introduction) and it involves an ongoing relationship with
Him.
You can't have an ongoing relationship with an impersonal or non-existent
God. Of course not all Christians have a very tight relationship with God
and some Christians end up in Christian-cults (seemingly Christian not
genuine) because their relationships with God are too distant. Some people
haven't the courage it takes to continue to grow in a closer relationship
to
God. It isn't easy because He pulls you into growing away from your faults
and into greater wholeness. Most people haven't the courage to face their
faults and grow.
I keep asking Christians how they know what they've got a relationship with
is god, and I keep getting no answer. Just how does one go about identifying
a god? Photo ID? Do they compare it with a known god?
It must be pretty damn convincing, because people like georgann are
absolutely certain that they've correctly identified the supernatural entity
they think they have the relationship with. They believe they CANNOT be
wrong about it. They believe they CANNOT be fooled.
As far as I can tell, they're just guessing.
Not that evolved.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "duke" |
|
| Title: Re: Christianity...the biggest cult ever? |
17 Apr 2005 08:30:55 AM |
|
|
On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 21:29:00 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote:
I keep asking Christians how they know what they've got a relationship with
is god, and I keep getting no answer. Just how does one go about identifying
a god? Photo ID? Do they compare it with a known god?
It must be pretty damn convincing, because people like georgann are
absolutely certain that they've correctly identified the supernatural entity
they think they have the relationship with. They believe they CANNOT be
wrong about it. They believe they CANNOT be fooled.
That's because there is only one all-mighty God.
As far as I can tell, they're just guessing.
No need to - there's only one choice.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
.
|
|
|
| User: "Denis Loubet" |
|
| Title: Re: Christianity...the biggest cult ever? |
17 Apr 2005 12:48:28 PM |
|
|
"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
news:b6p461l6gjukrrc8d0o3938n6ca1gfr8ll@4ax.com...
On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 21:29:00 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote:
I keep asking Christians how they know what they've got a relationship
with
is god, and I keep getting no answer. Just how does one go about
identifying
a god? Photo ID? Do they compare it with a known god?
It must be pretty damn convincing, because people like georgann are
absolutely certain that they've correctly identified the supernatural
entity
they think they have the relationship with. They believe they CANNOT be
wrong about it. They believe they CANNOT be fooled.
That's because there is only one all-mighty God.
So what? Even if there was, how do you know the thing you worship is the
god?
As far as I can tell, they're just guessing.
No need to - there's only one choice.
Or at least that's what the thing you worship told you.
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Related Articles |
|
|
