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"Budikka666" |
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13 Jul 2005 11:22:58 PM |
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Christians Apparently Dumber Than Muslims In Iraq |
Let's look at the muslim side. The muslims are so dumb that they pray
to a god who is utterly impotent. This god is so impotent that the
muslims have to strap bombs on themselves and blow themselves up in
order to try and get what they want. God is apparently completely
unable to get it for them.
Let's look at the Christian side. The Christians *know* that the
muslims will blow up groups of people any chance they get. Do
Christians avoid convening groups of people like the plague, or do they
deliberately and repeatedly *encourage* groups of people to gather
together thereby giving the muslims all the targets they can handle?
The latest news shows that Christian soldiers *still* encourage groups
of children to come and get sweets from them right out in the open
despite the fact that such groups have been attacked before. And more
children died:
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/07/13/iraq.main/index.html
God is apparently completely unable to protect them.
Christians are obviously dumber than muslims.
Budikka
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: Christians Apparently Dumber Than Muslims In Iraq |
14 Jul 2005 08:56:46 AM |
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"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in
news:1121314978.557361.181880@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
Let's look at the muslim side. The muslims are so dumb that they pray
to a god who is utterly impotent. This god is so impotent that the
muslims have to strap bombs on themselves and blow themselves up in
order to try and get what they want. God is apparently completely
unable to get it for them.
Let's look at the Christian side. The Christians *know* that the
muslims will blow up groups of people any chance they get. Do
Christians avoid convening groups of people like the plague, or do
they deliberately and repeatedly *encourage* groups of people to
gather together thereby giving the muslims all the targets they can
handle?
The latest news shows that Christian soldiers *still* encourage groups
of children to come and get sweets from them right out in the open
despite the fact that such groups have been attacked before. And more
children died:
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/07/13/iraq.main/index.html
God is apparently completely unable to protect them.
Christians are obviously dumber than muslims.
More blaming the victim, Budikka? How liberal of you!
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Metaphysics is almost always an attempt to prove
the incredible by an appeal to the unintelligible."
[H.L. Mencken, "Prejudices"]
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| User: "Budikka666" |
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| Title: Re: Christians Apparently Dumber Than Muslims In Iraq |
14 Jul 2005 04:34:26 PM |
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Fred Stone wrote:
"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in
news:1121314978.557361.181880@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
Let's look at the muslim side. The muslims are so dumb that they pray
to a god who is utterly impotent. This god is so impotent that the
muslims have to strap bombs on themselves and blow themselves up in
order to try and get what they want. God is apparently completely
unable to get it for them.
Let's look at the Christian side. The Christians *know* that the
muslims will blow up groups of people any chance they get. Do
Christians avoid convening groups of people like the plague, or do
they deliberately and repeatedly *encourage* groups of people to
gather together thereby giving the muslims all the targets they can
handle?
The latest news shows that Christian soldiers *still* encourage groups
of children to come and get sweets from them right out in the open
despite the fact that such groups have been attacked before. And more
children died:
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/07/13/iraq.main/index.html
God is apparently completely unable to protect them.
Christians are obviously dumber than muslims.
More blaming the victim, Budikka? How liberal of you!
When you get the first clue, please do post again.
For the congenitally pig-ignorant: What's being blamed here is the
practice of causing people to gather in unprotected crowds in an
environment where crowds are the prime target of suicide bombers. It's
simple common sense, which is why your ilk just doesn't get it.
Worse than that is that this hasn't happened only once. This is at
least the second occasion where soldiers have been handing out candy
and got the kids blown up.
Are we to learn from this that the US military has a chronic learning
impairment that the Commander-in-Chief apparently is impotent to
resolve? Is this why we're in another Vietnam blowing $200 billion
instead of spending it on putting bomb-sniffers in public places like
subways and bus stations?
And FYI (not that you're any more capable of learning than those in
charge in Iraq) I'd be posting these same messages if Clinton, Kennedy,
or Lincoln were in the White House. Stupidity, incompetence and blind
waste do not recognize party lines and neither do I.
Budikka
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: Christians Apparently Dumber Than Muslims In Iraq |
14 Jul 2005 05:20:05 PM |
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"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in
news:1121376866.642788.297160@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
Fred Stone wrote:
"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in
news:1121314978.557361.181880@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
Let's look at the muslim side. The muslims are so dumb that they
pray to a god who is utterly impotent. This god is so impotent
that the muslims have to strap bombs on themselves and blow
themselves up in order to try and get what they want. God is
apparently completely unable to get it for them.
Let's look at the Christian side. The Christians *know* that the
muslims will blow up groups of people any chance they get. Do
Christians avoid convening groups of people like the plague, or do
they deliberately and repeatedly *encourage* groups of people to
gather together thereby giving the muslims all the targets they can
handle?
The latest news shows that Christian soldiers *still* encourage
groups of children to come and get sweets from them right out in
the open despite the fact that such groups have been attacked
before. And more children died:
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/07/13/iraq.main/index.html
God is apparently completely unable to protect them.
Christians are obviously dumber than muslims.
More blaming the victim, Budikka? How liberal of you!
When you get the first clue, please do post again.
Yep, blame the victims.
For the congenitally pig-ignorant: What's being blamed here is the
practice of causing people to gather in unprotected crowds in an
environment where crowds are the prime target of suicide bombers.
It's simple common sense, which is why your ilk just doesn't get it.
Worse than that is that this hasn't happened only once. This is at
least the second occasion where soldiers have been handing out candy
and got the kids blown up.
In case you missed some details, the kids automatically gather where our
soldiers are. Our guys *always* hand out candy and toys. Don't you
*dare* try to blame our GI's for the acts of the terrorists.
Are we to learn from this that the US military has a chronic learning
impairment that the Commander-in-Chief apparently is impotent to
resolve? Is this why we're in another Vietnam blowing $200 billion
instead of spending it on putting bomb-sniffers in public places like
subways and bus stations?
Are we to learn from this that you are still trying to blame everybody
*except* the splodeydopes who are actually doing the killing?
And FYI (not that you're any more capable of learning than those in
charge in Iraq) I'd be posting these same messages if Clinton,
Kennedy, or Lincoln were in the White House. Stupidity, incompetence
and blind waste do not recognize party lines and neither do I.
You'd be just as stupid no matter who is President. I understand.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Political correctness is a form of moral and emotional blackmail
whereby if you call a spade a spade you must
a) apologize to the spade,
b) if you live in the US, take a sensitivity training course, or
c) if you live in Old Yurp, you are taken to court for defamation of the
aforementioned spade.
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| User: "Budikka666" |
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| Title: Re: Christians Apparently Dumber Than Muslims In Iraq |
14 Jul 2005 06:46:16 PM |
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Fred Jerkoff wrote:
Yep, blame the victims.
We already know you're a retard. You don't have to prove it every
single message you post.
But even so, you're not really in a position to comment. You're too
juvenile.
The problem with you is that we already know you're not an atheist.
Your religion is politics and your god is George Bush, and you cannot
help but be colored by this little loser axe that you so desperately
and blindly try to grind at every irrelevant opportunity, any more than
can the Xians or the muslim extremists be blamed for their little axes.
But seriously, what's your ***** position? How many Iraqi chidlren's
lives are **YOU** willing to pay?
Is your "exit plan" to gather children together in groups as regularly
as we can so we can help the suicide bombers readily find a target? Is
it your position to help out the bombers every chance you get instead
of making life as tough for them as we can? Is that **YOUR** *****
position?
We have an inordinate number of soldiers coming home with appalling
injuries from Iraq and your ***** position is to encourage them to
gather in unprotected groups? Way to go *****.
And when these same soldiers see kids gathering too, your *****
position is to have them keep standing there and start handing out
candy so more kids gather? And when we have enough kids milling around
excitedly, we'll keep on standing there just so some suicide bomber can
blow them all up now they're all conveniently gathered in a group with
no protection?
And of course, there's no way in hell that the smartest military in the
world can take steps to thwart such suicide attacks by **MOVING AWAY**,
or by ensuring they're gathering behind protection so the kids are safe
from harm. No, instead, let's follow your mindless ritualistic
chanting.
It has, of course, never entered your head (why would it - there;s no
room int here for anything but stupidity and politics) that the suicide
bombers don't need any help, has it?
By Iraq's own admission the bombers have **KILLED EIGHT THOUSAND PEOPLE
IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS** Isn't that more than enough for**YOU**?
Isn't it?
How many deaths will be enough for a brain-dead heartless right-wing
***** low-life like you? How many more child sacrifices is **YOUR
GOD** Bush going to demand, moron? How many? Give me a number. How
many children's lives have to be needlesly and recklessly and
thoughtlessly thrown down the toilet before **YOU** will be satisfied?
How many?
And by all means let's gather police recruits and military recruits
into crowds in the same way:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4643535.stm
so the suicide bombers can kill as many of those as possible.
Because we're all mindless robots together here in our patriotic unity
who, as George Santayana warned, cannot learn from the past and are
condemned, therefore, to repeat it.
So when one group of kids is blown to smithereens, rather than
determine "Oh, well we'd better never do that again!", we'll just
blindly go and do **EXACTLY THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN** and
then blindly point idiotic fingers at the suicide bombers, because
there's not a thing we cna do abotu them. Is that **YOUR** philosophy:
that we're just a bunch of fish in a barrel and there's nothing we can
do?
Get a fucking clue.
Budikka
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: Christians Apparently Dumber Than Muslims In Iraq |
14 Jul 2005 07:28:27 PM |
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"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in
news:1121384776.478216.201930@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
Fred Stone wrote:
Yep, blame the victims.
We already know...
<snip the liberal idiot's rant>
No, you don't. You don't know a damned thing. You've sacrificed your
knowledge along with your honor and your decency. You're so desperate to
pin things on the US and the Bush administration that you've lost all
sense of honor or decency, if you ever had any decency or honor to begin
with.
The suicide bombers and the people who send them out have been targeting
innocent civilians for months now, whether US forces are near them or
not. But no, you don't care about that, you hear a report of an incident
where US personnell were at risk along with ordinary civilians and you
can't resist the opportunity to spew your putrid vomit in a vain attempt
to dishonor the soldiers whom you aren't worthy to be kicked by.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Political correctness is a form of moral and emotional blackmail
whereby if you call a spade a spade you must
a) apologize to the spade,
b) if you live in the US, take a sensitivity training course, or
c) if you live in Old Yurp, you are taken to court for defamation of the
aforementioned spade.
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| User: "G-Ride" |
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| Title: Re: Christians Apparently Dumber Than Muslims In Iraq |
20 Jul 2005 05:48:59 PM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:1121387309.58d1a301554abc8476ed2d31491906f7@teranews...
No, you don't. You don't know a damned thing. You've sacrificed your
knowledge along with your honor and your decency. You're so desperate to
pin things on the US and the Bush administration that you've lost all
sense of honor or decency, if you ever had any decency or honor to begin
with.
Change a few words above and you get Fred talking about Fred:
No, you don't. You don't know a damned thing. You've sacrificed your
knowledge along with your honor and your decency. You're so desperate to
spin things for the Bush administration that you've lost all sense of honor
or decency, if you ever had any decency or honor to begin with.
--
Aloha, G-Ride
"Gunga galunga. Gunga, gunga galunga."
- Dalai Llama
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| User: "Budikka666" |
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| Title: Re: Christians Apparently Dumber Than Muslims In Iraq |
14 Jul 2005 08:47:54 PM |
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***** blathered:
"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in
news:1121384776.478216.201930@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
Fred Stone wrote:
Yep, blame the victims.
We already know...
<snip the liberal idiot's rant>
No, you don't. You don't know a damned thing.
I know you're vying with that fundamental ***** Earl Weber for the
title of Lowlife of the Internet, but you want to go futher than that,
don't you? Oh yes, you're advocating a callous disregard for the
murder of children and the denigration of American troops - who are
already too high a profile target - by associating them with massacres.
Why not just join the insurgents yourself, you murdering *****, if you
have so little respect for life and for Americans?
Go ahead, *****. Why not advocate all American women to go stand
naked in areas known to be frequented by rapists, and then stand around
like the dumb schmuck you are, scratching your head and wondering why
it was so easy for the rapists to rape? Because there's nothing that
we can do about it is there? We're too dumb to prevent these things by
thinking before acting, aren't we?
Why not advocate people wandering through the scummiest areas of our
big cities flaunting money and valuables, and then stand around like
the dumb schmuck you are, scratching your head and wondering why it was
so easy for the thieves to steal? Because there's nothing that we can
do about it is there? We're too dumb to prevent these things by
thinking before acting, aren't we?
Hey, and how about putting our troops unnecessarily in harm's way and
yeah, let's have children surround them, and then let's stand around
like dumb schmucks, scratching our heads and wondering why it was so
easy for the psychos to blow them to bits!
Oh, you already did that, didn;t you fucking moron.
Budikka
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: Christians Apparently Dumber Than Muslims In Iraq |
14 Jul 2005 10:13:52 PM |
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"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in
news:1121392074.668345.273180@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
***** blathered:
"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in
news:1121384776.478216.201930@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
Fred Stone wrote:
Yep, blame the victims.
We already know...
<snip the liberal idiot's rant>
No, you don't. You don't know a damned thing.
I know...
No you don't. You just vomit out whatever liberal stupidity crosses your
traitor's mind. But I exaggerate, you don't have a mind, you let your
Democratic propaganda masters do all your thinking for you.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Political correctness is a form of moral and emotional blackmail
whereby if you call a spade a spade you must
a) apologize to the spade,
b) if you live in the US, take a sensitivity training course, or
c) if you live in Old Yurp, you are taken to court for defamation of the
aforementioned spade.
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| User: "G-Ride" |
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20 Jul 2005 05:51:39 PM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:1121397233.64969fdf952632af5d33b6174e2f8da3@teranews...
No you don't. You just vomit out whatever liberal stupidity crosses your
traitor's mind. But I exaggerate, you don't have a mind, you let your
Democratic propaganda masters do all your thinking for you.
And if we change a few words above, we once again get Fred talking about
Fred:
No you don't. You just vomit out whatever right-wing stupidity crosses your
traitor's mind. But I exaggerate, you don't have a mind, you let your
right-wing propaganda masters do all your thinking for you.
--
Aloha, G-Ride
"Gunga galunga. Gunga, gunga galunga."
- Dalai Llama
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| User: "Budikka666" |
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14 Jul 2005 10:52:28 PM |
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***** lied:
No, you don't. You don't know a damned thing.
I know...
No you don't. You just vomit out whatever liberal stupidity crosses your
traitor's mind. But I exaggerate, you don't have a mind, you let your
Democratic propaganda masters do all your thinking for you.
Are you babbling and drooling and spitting because you're juvenile or
because you're senile? I can't tell. It surely can't be because
you're juvenile - if you were that babyish you wouldn't be able to run
away from the facts every time I bitchslap you with them, would you?
But please do come back and entertain me some more when you grow out of
whatever ***** you're wallowing in right now. I can always use a good
laugh and Earl isn't always around, but you make a fine substitute.
Budikka
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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14 Jul 2005 10:26:48 PM |
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Fred Stone wrote:
"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in
news:1121392074.668345.273180@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
***** blathered:
"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in
news:1121384776.478216.201930@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
Fred Stone wrote:
Yep, blame the victims.
We already know...
<snip the liberal idiot's rant>
No, you don't. You don't know a damned thing.
I know...
No you don't. You just vomit out whatever liberal stupidity crosses your
traitor's mind. But I exaggerate, you don't have a mind, you let your
Democratic propaganda masters do all your thinking for you.
You know, I could repeat exactly what you said, replacing "liberal" with
"conservative" and replacing "Democratic" with "Republican" and it'd
have the same about of creedence -- that is, none -- but I won't. I'm
too lazy tonight.
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* DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
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* "No one ever demonstrated, so far as I am aware, *
* the non-existence of Zeus or Thor - but they *
* have few followers now." Arthur C. Clarke *
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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15 Jul 2005 07:41:34 AM |
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DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in
news:Y1GBe.3530$LG4.1189@trnddc04:
Fred Stone wrote:
"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in
news:1121392074.668345.273180@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
***** blathered:
"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in
news:1121384776.478216.201930@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
Fred Stone wrote:
Yep, blame the victims.
We already know...
<snip the liberal idiot's rant>
No, you don't. You don't know a damned thing.
I know...
No you don't. You just vomit out whatever liberal stupidity crosses
your traitor's mind. But I exaggerate, you don't have a mind, you let
your Democratic propaganda masters do all your thinking for you.
You know, I could repeat exactly what you said, replacing "liberal"
with "conservative" and replacing "Democratic" with "Republican" and
it'd have the same about of creedence -- that is, none -- but I won't.
I'm too lazy tonight.
You could, but those kinds of moral and semantic equivalence arguments
have lost their punch, haven't they?
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Political correctness is a form of moral and emotional blackmail
whereby if you call a spade a spade you must
a) apologize to the spade,
b) if you live in the US, take a sensitivity training course, or
c) if you live in Old Yurp, you are taken to court for defamation of the
aforementioned spade.
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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15 Jul 2005 01:52:01 PM |
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Fred Stone wrote:
DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in
news:Y1GBe.3530$LG4.1189@trnddc04:
Fred Stone wrote:
"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in
news:1121392074.668345.273180@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
***** blathered:
"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in
news:1121384776.478216.201930@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
Fred Stone wrote:
Yep, blame the victims.
We already know...
<snip the liberal idiot's rant>
No, you don't. You don't know a damned thing.
I know...
No you don't. You just vomit out whatever liberal stupidity crosses
your traitor's mind. But I exaggerate, you don't have a mind, you let
your Democratic propaganda masters do all your thinking for you.
You know, I could repeat exactly what you said, replacing "liberal"
with "conservative" and replacing "Democratic" with "Republican" and
it'd have the same about of creedence -- that is, none -- but I won't.
I'm too lazy tonight.
You could, but those kinds of moral and semantic equivalence arguments
have lost their punch, haven't they?
Yes, they have, just as your posts have lost their punch, sadly. You've
become a typical righty; blind to everything that isn't Republican. You
post right-wing blogs and expect us to listen to them; but if a
left-wing blog is posted (such as Daily Kos), you go apeshit and say
that it shouldn't be listened to.
You, my dear sad friend, are a hypocrite of the highest order.
I bid you adieu.
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* DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
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* "No one ever demonstrated, so far as I am aware, *
* the non-existence of Zeus or Thor - but they *
* have few followers now." Arthur C. Clarke *
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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15 Jul 2005 02:17:50 PM |
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DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in
news:lBTBe.74$ph1.58@trnddc06:
Fred Stone wrote:
DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in
news:Y1GBe.3530$LG4.1189@trnddc04:
Fred Stone wrote:
"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in
news:1121392074.668345.273180@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
***** blathered:
"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in
news:1121384776.478216.201930@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
Fred Stone wrote:
Yep, blame the victims.
We already know...
<snip the liberal idiot's rant>
No, you don't. You don't know a damned thing.
I know...
No you don't. You just vomit out whatever liberal stupidity crosses
your traitor's mind. But I exaggerate, you don't have a mind, you
let your Democratic propaganda masters do all your thinking for you.
You know, I could repeat exactly what you said, replacing "liberal"
with "conservative" and replacing "Democratic" with "Republican" and
it'd have the same about of creedence -- that is, none -- but I
won't.
I'm too lazy tonight.
You could, but those kinds of moral and semantic equivalence
arguments have lost their punch, haven't they?
Yes, they have, just as your posts have lost their punch, sadly.
You've become a typical righty; blind to everything that isn't
Republican. You post right-wing blogs and expect us to listen to
them; but if a left-wing blog is posted (such as Daily Kos), you go
apeshit and say that it shouldn't be listened to.
Kos is a joke. Why anybody would listen to them is beyond me. There
*are* fairly credible leftwing bloggers out there, but Markos Moulitsas
isn't one of them.
You, my dear sad friend, are a hypocrite of the highest order.
Why, because I can distinguish between ***** and fair reporting?
I bid you adieu.
Good luck at college. :-)
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Political correctness is a form of moral and emotional blackmail
whereby if you call a spade a spade you must
a) apologize to the spade,
b) if you live in the US, take a sensitivity training course, or
c) if you live in Old Yurp, you are taken to court for defamation of the
aforementioned spade.
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| User: "Ben Goren" |
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14 Jul 2005 07:10:47 PM |
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Fred Stone wrote:
In case you missed some details, the kids automatically gather
where our soldiers are. Our guys *always* hand out candy and
toys.
Didn't it occur to you that that's /why/ the kids flock to the
soldiers?
Of course the suicide bombers are evil for doing what they do. But
that doesn't mean that we should be setting the stage for
them. It's simple, really. Stop handing out candy. Tell all the
soldiers to shoo the kids away, telling them that they've got
dangerous work to do.
What would you say to the foreman of a construction site who let
kids play on the scaffolding and who encouraged the workers to
hand out candy to the kids?
Have the soldiers set up safe parties for the kids if you think
you need to mingle with them. Secure a stadium or some such,
screen everybody who comes in, have the best damned shindig you
can pull off. Set up a carnival with the soldiers manning the
booths. Whatever.
But encouraging kids to unwittingly make public targets of
themselves is almost as evil as the Palestinians who hide bombs in
teddy bears. Maybe we didn't know better the first couple times,
but that's no damned excuse anymore.
Cheers,
b&
--
BAAWA Knight of Blasphemy
All but God can prove this sentence true.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: Christians Apparently Dumber Than Muslims In Iraq |
14 Jul 2005 08:08:15 PM |
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"Ben Goren" <ben.goren@gmail.com> wrote in news:1121386247.466421.61430
@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
Fred Stone wrote:
In case you missed some details, the kids automatically gather
where our soldiers are. Our guys *always* hand out candy and
toys.
Didn't it occur to you that that's /why/ the kids flock to the
soldiers?
They may have to rethink the policy, but it's been a big help to public
relations even with the risk of suicide bombings.
Of course the suicide bombers are evil for doing what they do. But
that doesn't mean that we should be setting the stage for
them. It's simple, really. Stop handing out candy. Tell all the
soldiers to shoo the kids away, telling them that they've got
dangerous work to do.
They do try. They know it's dangerous, and so do the kids and the kids'
parents. From what I've read, it would literally take force to make them
stay away. This latest incident was at a checkpoint in the middle of a
road; there was going to be a crowd there no matter what.
What would you say to the foreman of a construction site who let
kids play on the scaffolding and who encouraged the workers to
hand out candy to the kids?
You can put a fence around a construction site. You can't fence off a
checkpoint in the middle of a street.
Have the soldiers set up safe parties for the kids if you think
you need to mingle with them. Secure a stadium or some such,
screen everybody who comes in, have the best damned shindig you
can pull off. Set up a carnival with the soldiers manning the
booths. Whatever.
They do those things too. Of course you never hear about anything
pleasant like that on the news...
But encouraging kids to unwittingly make public targets of
themselves is almost as evil as the Palestinians who hide bombs in
teddy bears. Maybe we didn't know better the first couple times,
but that's no damned excuse anymore.
It's not that cut-and-dried. The terrorists have been sending suicide
bombers into crowds whether there are US troops around or not. Any crowd
anywhere is vulnerable.
And this sort of random violence is turning the locals against the
terrorists in ever increasing numbers. The Iraqi counterterrorist
operations are getting all sorts of tips from people who are just fed up
with the terrorists.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Political correctness is a form of moral and emotional blackmail
whereby if you call a spade a spade you must
a) apologize to the spade,
b) if you live in the US, take a sensitivity training course, or
c) if you live in Old Yurp, you are taken to court for defamation of the
aforementioned spade.
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| User: "Budikka666" |
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| Title: Re: Christians Apparently Dumber Than Muslims In Iraq |
14 Jul 2005 09:00:43 PM |
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Ben Goren wrote:
Fred Stone wrote:
In case you missed some details, the kids automatically gather
where our soldiers are. Our guys *always* hand out candy and
toys.
Didn't it occur to you that that's /why/ the kids flock to the
soldiers?
Nothing intelligent occurs to Stone. He's too blinded by his religion
to see sense, and anyone who disagrees with him is insulted and labeled
a flaming liberal regardless of what they're advocating. That's why I
simply insult him in return: logic, intelligence, common sense and
rational argument are all lost on him. he runs from it with the same
panic that Earl Weber does, which means he's no better than the idiot
fundamentalists who post in this group.
If the suicide bombers are known to bomb crowds (and this has been
going on since the invasion) then crowds need to be kept dispersed or
they need to be protected. It's that simple.
You can't stop the suicide bombers but you *can* minimise their
opportunities. You can put checkpoints behind bomb-proof barriers, and
you can either keep children away or ensure they're protected by those
barriers. You can build barriers around police and army recruiting
centers. The fact is that we're two years in and $200 billion out, and
the administration *still* doesn't have the smarts to see this. Such
incompetence and callous disregard for civilian safety means that they
are the Iraqi government are just as guilty over these deaths as the
ones who carry the bombs.
If Stone wasn't clamped so tightly on Bush's right tit he'd see this as
clearly as the rest of us. But there are none so blind as those who
are blinded by religion.
Budikka
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: Christians Apparently Dumber Than Muslims In Iraq |
14 Jul 2005 10:26:19 PM |
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"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in
news:1121392843.428436.209760@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
Ben Goren wrote:
Fred Stone wrote:
In case you missed some details, the kids automatically gather
where our soldiers are. Our guys *always* hand out candy and
toys.
Didn't it occur to you that that's /why/ the kids flock to the
soldiers?
Nothing intelligent occurs to Stone. He's too blinded by his religion
to see sense, and anyone who disagrees with him is insulted and
labeled a flaming liberal regardless of what they're advocating.
Oh, look who's talking.
That's why I simply insult him in return: logic, intelligence, common
sense and rational argument are all lost on him. he runs from it with
the same panic that Earl Weber does, which means he's no better than
the idiot fundamentalists who post in this group.
Oooh, yeah, I'm running away in SUCH a panic. I notice you haven't
actually answered a single point of anything I posted. You just rant and
rave and you're just a waste of good bandwidth.
If the suicide bombers are known to bomb crowds (and this has been
going on since the invasion) then crowds need to be kept dispersed or
they need to be protected. It's that simple.
Yeah, it's so fucking simple that it wouldn't work. Budikka thinks our
soldiers are even dumber than he is.
You can't stop the suicide bombers but you *can* minimise their
opportunities. You can put checkpoints behind bomb-proof barriers,
Not when you're moving checkpoints around on a daily basis. Put them in
fixed locations and build up elaborate defenses around them and the bad
guys will just take a different route.
and you can either keep children away or ensure they're protected by
those barriers.
It would take force to keep the children away and there is no temporary
barrier that is going to stop a car bomb without completely blocking the
road the checkpoint is on.
You can build barriers around police and army recruiting centers.
And you can completely block whole streets in the process, and disrupt
traffic in whole neighborhoods and you've still got a target for mortar
fire.
The fact is that we're two years in and $200
billion out, and the administration *still* doesn't have the smarts to
see this.
And *YOU* don't see the futility of your "brilliant" ideas.
Such incompetence and callous disregard for civilian safety
means that they are the Iraqi government are just as guilty over these
deaths as the ones who carry the bombs.
So when are you shipping out, Budikka? You're so fucking smart, why
aren't you over there helping to build these bomb-proof barriers at
every temporary checkpoint and makeshift recruiting center?
If Stone wasn't clamped so tightly on Bush's right tit he'd see this
as clearly as the rest of us. But there are none so blind as those
who are blinded by religion.
You ought to know, worshiping at the altar of liberal stupidity. But I'm
being redundant.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Political correctness is a form of moral and emotional blackmail
whereby if you call a spade a spade you must
a) apologize to the spade,
b) if you live in the US, take a sensitivity training course, or
c) if you live in Old Yurp, you are taken to court for defamation of the
aforementioned spade.
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| User: "Budikka666" |
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| Title: Re: Christians Apparently Dumber Than Muslims In Iraq |
14 Jul 2005 11:18:01 PM |
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***** vomited:
Oh, look who's talking.
Better talking than running away every time one of those nasty
inconvenient facts gets in the way of your blind religion, Earl.
Oooh, yeah, I'm running away in SUCH a panic.
We know.
I notice you haven't
actually answered a single point of anything I posted.
When you make one, I'll address it. Meanwhile, I still waiting on you
addressing issues I raised months ago. But keep running, coward. It's
what you blind religious sheep do best, even when you worship a god
like George Bush.
If the suicide bombers are known to bomb crowds (and this has been
going on since the invasion) then crowds need to be kept dispersed or
they need to be protected. It's that simple.
Yeah, it's so fucking simple that it wouldn't work.
Not with blind, incompetent, clueless assholes like you running things
it won't, that's for sure. For smart people, in practice, common sense
always works. But go right ahead and murder children, Shitrag. What
do you care? They're nasty Arab terrorist children and deserve to die
anyway don't they, Stone?
Budikka thinks our
soldiers are even dumber than he is.
Hey go ahead and make up ***** to "get me" on because you've run away
from everything I actually *said*.
You can't stop the suicide bombers but you *can* minimise their
opportunities. You can put checkpoints behind bomb-proof barriers,
Not when you're moving checkpoints around on a daily basis.
Here you are proclaiming that safeguarding our troops and safeguarding
innocent Iraqi children is not worth the effort and $200 billion good
American greenbacks can't buy protection.
It was assholes like you who sent troops over there without armored
Humvees in the first place because you can't protect Humvees when
they're moving around on a daily basis, you fucking clown.
It was assholes like you who had months and months to prepare for this
war and then had the cowardice and gall to stand up in Iraq in front of
American soldiers who are laying their lives on the line at George
Bush's whim, and tell them to their face that you have to fight a war
with the equipment you have - like the war had started out of the blue
the day before.
If Bush and his lying shits had spent as much effort on equipping the
troops and planning the aftermath of the war as they did on lying about
WMD, we wouldn't have lost half as many troops as we have.
In fact, if they hadn't lied about WMD, we'd never have gone there in
the first place and turned the USA in the poster child for terrorist
recruitment.
http://billmon.org/archives/000172.html
"Well, there is no question that we have evidence and information that
Iraq has weapons of mass destruction, biological and chemical
particularly . . . all this will be made clear in the course of the
operation, for whatever duration it takes."
Ari Fleisher - Press Briefing - March 21, 2003
Put them in
fixed locations and build up elaborate defenses around them and the bad
guys will just take a different route.
Then you're admitting that the muslims are smarter than the Christians?
Good for you. Personally I think common sense can defeat anything.
But you'd have to actually *have* the common sense and apply it before
it will work. This you're clearly incapable of grasping. All you're
apparently capable of doing is flapping your arms uselessly and griping
"It can't be done, it can't be done! Let the soldiers and children die
because it's too much effort to protect them". Good luck with that
"exit plan".
It would take force to keep the children away and there is no temporary
barrier that is going to stop a car bomb without completely blocking the
road the checkpoint is on.
Quit your fucking lie with the checkpoint. There's nothing in the news
I read about a "check point", especially not a fortified one. it was
jsut a parked Humvee. I know truth is an alien concept with you, but
the first step in safeguarding soldiers and children is facing reality.
Until and unless you can do that, all you're apparently capable of
doing is flapping your arms uselessly and griping "It can't be done, it
can't be done! Let the soldiers and children die because it's too much
effort to protect them". Good luck with that "exit plan".
You can build barriers around police and army recruiting centers.
And you can completely block whole streets in the process,
Yeah, an ***** like you would do that, because it takes common sense
to figure out these things. But you'd have to actually *have* the
common sense and apply it before it will work. This you're clearly
incapable of grasping. All you're apparently capable of doing is
flapping your arms uselessly and griping "It can't be done, it can't be
done! Let the soldiers and children die because it's too much effort
to protect them". Good luck with that "exit plan".
and disrupt traffic in whole neighborhoods
Oh, but suicide bombers don't disrupt diddly, you fucking moron. Get a
fucking clue before you and people like you kill more children and
soldiers.
So when are you shipping out, Budikka? You're so fucking smart, why
aren't you over there helping to build these bomb-proof barriers at
every temporary checkpoint and makeshift recruiting center?
George Bush is as clueless as you are. What would be the point in
telling him?
But I'm being redundant.
Finally you got *some*thing right. Congratulations.
Budikka
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: Christians Apparently Dumber Than Muslims In Iraq |
15 Jul 2005 07:55:00 AM |
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"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in
news:1121401081.044908.228190@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:
<snip Budikka's mindless ranting and content-free moonbat howlings>
Whoops, nothing left.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Political correctness is a form of moral and emotional blackmail
whereby if you call a spade a spade you must
a) apologize to the spade,
b) if you live in the US, take a sensitivity training course, or
c) if you live in Old Yurp, you are taken to court for defamation of the
aforementioned spade.
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| User: "Budikka666" |
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15 Jul 2005 05:42:19 PM |
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Whoops, nothing left.
That's you all right. Keep running, Earl. Keep running from the
facts. Keep running from your own stupidity. It's what you do best.
Meanwhile chidlren and soldiers are dying because assholes like you are
too stupid to move them. (That's your cue to flap your useless arms
and whine that it's too difficult for you to comprehend).
Budikka
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| User: "Katt" |
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| Title: Re: Christians Apparently Dumber Than Muslims In Iraq |
14 Jul 2005 01:18:09 PM |
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"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
Christians are obviously dumber than muslims.
Could be, Budikka!
But it's really a bit like trying to decide whether cockroaches are dumber
than lice: they may well be; but the simple fact is that one just doesn't
want *either* in one's life...!
Katt.
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