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"Jason Gastrich" |
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06 Jan 2005 01:04:28 PM |
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Christians Arrested at Gay Rally |
You may already be familiar with this situation. If not, please take a
read.
Do you agree with these Christians being jailed? Or do you think that the
City of Philadelphia has gone to far? Why or why not?
Free the Philadelphia 4
December 20, 2004
by Joseph Farah
I'm amazed when seemingly intelligent people tell me they still think the
American Civil Liberties Union is a group that fights for First Amendment
freedoms no matter whose ox is being gored.
If that's the case, why is the ACLU not filing amicus briefs in Philadelphia
where four Christians are facing 47 years in jail for expressing their
free-speech rights?
That's right. Four Christians are facing 47 years in prison for peacefully
quoting the Bible, an action an unglued local prosecutor determined to be
"fighting words" when cited among homosexual activists.
It all started Oct. 10, when a total of 11 members of Repent America
attended a homosexual street festival called "Outfest."
The group, ranging in age from 17 to 72, was surrounded at times by the
organizers' security force, known as the "Pink Angels."
Videotapes and still photos taken at the event show the Pink Angels blocking
the path of the Repent America members, shouting at them, blowing whistles
and so forth. The Christians remain peaceful and calm at all times, despite
what appears to be extraordinary provocation, intimidation and harassment.
Guess who was arrested?
That's right. The Christians.
And they've been charged with a long list of felonies and hate crimes that
would make the Founding Fathers spin in their graves.
Repent America director Michael Marcavage is charged with three felonies -
criminal conspiracy, ethnic intimidation and riot. (If you're wondering what
"ethnic intimidation" means at a homosexual event, you have to understand
the city of Philadelphia has extended hate crime laws to protect the
sexually aberrant as well as racial minorities.) He was also hit with five
misdemeanors for walking on the city sidewalks and quoting Holy Scriptures.
Mark Diener and James Cruse are charged with criminal conspiracy, failure to
disperse, disorderly conduct and obstructing highways. Dennis Green is
charged with criminal conspiracy, disorderly conduct and obstructing
highways. The criminal conspiracy charge links all the defendants together
so that Marcavage's "ethnic intimidation" hate-crime charge will apply to
all of them.
This is one of the most brazen, frontal attacks on religious freedom and
free speech I have seen in my lifetime. If these charges stand, Christians
across America will soon be hunted down like dogs as they are in many parts
of the world today as the most persecuted religious group on the planet.
It's ironic that this persecution would take place in Philadelphia, the
so-called "City of Brotherly Love."
Of course, Philadelphia wasn't always so inhospitable to Christians.
It's worth remembering the very first legislative act in Pennsylvania, April
25, 1682. It was called the Great Law of Pennsylvania - and great it was.
"Whereas the glory of Almighty God and the good of mankind is the reason and
the end of government, and, therefore government itself is a venerable
ordinance of God ... [there shall be established] laws as shall best
preserve true Christian and civil liberty, in opposition to all unchristian,
licentious, and unjust practices, whereby God may have his due, and Caesar
his due, and the people their due, from tyranny and oppression."
If indeed the Philadelphia 4 are convicted and sentenced to hard time,
Christians need to march on the Philadelphia courthouse, encircle it, blow
the trumpets and prepare to watch God work a miracle like He did at Jericho.
We should do this not just for the injustice to the four Philadelphia
Christians, but because no one in America - not Christians or
non-Christians, not black or white, not homosexual or heterosexual - will
truly be free. We will be living in a country where people can be imprisoned
arbitrarily for breaking no law other than the law of "political
correctness."
If we're going to save freedom in America, it's going to take a miracle.
Will you come to Philadelphia?
© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com
Posted: December 20, 2004
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| User: "Liz" |
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| Title: Re: Jason Gastrich: Water Flows UPHILL! |
07 Jan 2005 07:22:17 AM |
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On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 05:02:12 -0600, "towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com>
in news message <3478hbF44mjqoU1@individual.net> wrote:
TV's Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
Ha Ha Ha...
Fucking moron.
http://www.durangobill.com/JasonGastrich.html
"The river doesn't just meander, it flows uphill. "
"Dr" Jason Gastrich, on the Colorado River's Impact on the
Grand Canyon.
Well, in Jason Ostrich's bizarro-world, up is down, love is hate, and right
is left. In Gastric-speak, he's technically correct. He's also a "Doctor,"
which roughly translates to "beedledick" in English.
He also stated that bat have feathers just a week ago. In defense of
the Bible, he stated, "The Hebrew word "oph" that is used in Leviticus
to describe the bat simply means feathered animal that flies. It
accurately describes the bat."
Message-ID: <9GoBd.36853$nP1.28625@twister.socal.rr.com>
Later he thanked several people for "reminding him" that bats don't
have feathers, which of course destroyed his argument that the Bible
is infallible. Of course, he didn't recognize that aspect of his
ignorance. He is quite hilarious and his own worst enemy.
Liz #658 BAAWA
I could not believe that anyone who had read this book
would be so foolish as to proclaim that the Bible in every
literal word was the divinely inspired, inerrant word of
God? Have these people simply not read the text? Are they
hopelessly uninformed? Is there a different Bible? Are
they blinded by a combination of ego needs and naivete?
-- Bishop John Shelby Spong!
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| User: "George Peatty" |
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07 Jan 2005 06:50:06 PM |
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On Fri, 07 Jan 2005 13:22:17 GMT, Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote:
Later he thanked several people for "reminding him" that bats don't
have feathers, which of course destroyed his argument that the Bible
is infallible.
I don't know what Bible you're talking about, but you're not talking about
mine. God is not bound by your taxonomy, and if he wants to classify a bat
as a bird, I got no problem with that. It is, after all, his creation.
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| User: "" |
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08 Jan 2005 04:08:31 PM |
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If I might muddy^H^H^H^H^H clarify a bit. Any linguists here?
I would guess that bronze-age Hebrew was not a language based on modern
scientific notions. The word that is *translated as bird probably meant
something like "non-bug critter that flies". Analogous to "ape" in
modern English. For most folks, it means "great apes except humans",
which is not a very scientific or useful category, but there it is.
The bible has problems with:
the global flood,
a viscious god,
the tower of babel,
creation,
Joshua at Jehrico, etc.
No need to pick on it for pre-scientific categories. They made good
enough sense for folks at the time. Even "pi equals three" is fine if
the limits of accuracy for your math is counting on your fingers
Kermit
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| User: "Gregory A Greenman" |
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09 Jan 2005 01:59:23 AM |
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In article <1105222111.721840.64490
@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
<> declared...
If I might muddy^H^H^H^H^H clarify a bit. Any linguists here?
I would guess that bronze-age Hebrew was not a language based on modern
scientific notions. The word that is *translated as bird probably meant
something like "non-bug critter that flies". Analogous to "ape" in
modern English. For most folks, it means "great apes except humans",
which is not a very scientific or useful category, but there it is.
The bible has problems with:
the global flood,
a viscious god,
the tower of babel,
creation,
Joshua at Jehrico, etc.
No need to pick on it for pre-scientific categories. They made good
enough sense for folks at the time. Even "pi equals three" is fine if
the limits of accuracy for your math is counting on your fingers
It makes perfect sense, if you understand that it was written by
fallible humans. It makes no sense to believe that those sort of
problems would have been overlooked by an omniscient god.
--
Greg
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greg -at- spencersoft -dot- com
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| User: "Liz" |
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09 Jan 2005 05:36:04 AM |
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On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 01:59:23 -0600, Gregory A Greenman <see@sig.below>
in news message <MPG.1c4aa058ba876720989685@news.comcast.giganews.com>
wrote:
In article <1105222111.721840.64490
@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
<> declared...
If I might muddy^H^H^H^H^H clarify a bit. Any linguists here?
I would guess that bronze-age Hebrew was not a language based on modern
scientific notions. The word that is *translated as bird probably meant
something like "non-bug critter that flies". Analogous to "ape" in
modern English. For most folks, it means "great apes except humans",
which is not a very scientific or useful category, but there it is.
The bible has problems with:
the global flood,
a viscious god,
the tower of babel,
creation,
Joshua at Jehrico, etc.
No need to pick on it for pre-scientific categories. They made good
enough sense for folks at the time. Even "pi equals three" is fine if
the limits of accuracy for your math is counting on your fingers
It makes perfect sense, if you understand that it was written by
fallible humans. It makes no sense to believe that those sort of
problems would have been overlooked by an omniscient god.
And, while interesting in a pedantic kind of way, it has no bearing on
the fact that Jason asserted that bats have feathers, which was my
original point. <stomp . . . flounce>
Liz #658 BAAWA
I could not believe that anyone who had read this book
would be so foolish as to proclaim that the Bible in every
literal word was the divinely inspired, inerrant word of
God? Have these people simply not read the text? Are they
hopelessly uninformed? Is there a different Bible? Are
they blinded by a combination of ego needs and naivete?
-- Bishop John Shelby Spong!
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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09 Jan 2005 08:45:58 AM |
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In our last episode <9k52u01hd27g6u1psrtt33gm42f47gk7h0@4ax.com>, Liz lept
out of the bushes shouting:
On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 01:59:23 -0600, Gregory A Greenman <see@sig.below> in
news message <MPG.1c4aa058ba876720989685@news.comcast.giganews.com> wrote:
In article <1105222111.721840.64490
@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
<> declared...
If I might muddy^H^H^H^H^H clarify a bit. Any linguists here?
I would guess that bronze-age Hebrew was not a language based on modern
scientific notions. The word that is *translated as bird probably meant
something like "non-bug critter that flies". Analogous to "ape" in
modern English. For most folks, it means "great apes except humans",
which is not a very scientific or useful category, but there it is.
The bible has problems with:
the global flood,
a viscious god,
the tower of babel,
creation,
Joshua at Jehrico, etc.
No need to pick on it for pre-scientific categories. They made good
enough sense for folks at the time. Even "pi equals three" is fine if
the limits of accuracy for your math is counting on your fingers
It makes perfect sense, if you understand that it was written by fallible
humans. It makes no sense to believe that those sort of problems would
have been overlooked by an omniscient god.
And, while interesting in a pedantic kind of way, it has no bearing on the
fact that Jason asserted that bats have feathers, which was my original
point. <stomp . . . flounce>
Two, three...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
-- Seneca the Younger
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| User: "stoney" |
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09 Jan 2005 10:23:02 PM |
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On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 11:36:04 GMT, Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote:
On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 01:59:23 -0600, Gregory A Greenman <see@sig.below>
in news message <MPG.1c4aa058ba876720989685@news.comcast.giganews.com>
wrote:
In article <1105222111.721840.64490
@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
<> declared...
If I might muddy^H^H^H^H^H clarify a bit. Any linguists here?
I would guess that bronze-age Hebrew was not a language based on modern
scientific notions. The word that is *translated as bird probably meant
something like "non-bug critter that flies". Analogous to "ape" in
modern English. For most folks, it means "great apes except humans",
which is not a very scientific or useful category, but there it is.
The bible has problems with:
the global flood,
a viscious god,
the tower of babel,
creation,
Joshua at Jehrico, etc.
No need to pick on it for pre-scientific categories. They made good
enough sense for folks at the time. Even "pi equals three" is fine if
the limits of accuracy for your math is counting on your fingers
It makes perfect sense, if you understand that it was written by
fallible humans. It makes no sense to believe that those sort of
problems would have been overlooked by an omniscient god.
And, while interesting in a pedantic kind of way, it has no bearing on
the fact that Jason asserted that bats have feathers, which was my
original point. <stomp . . . flounce>
OOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooo
Do that again!
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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| User: "George Peatty" |
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08 Jan 2005 07:02:49 PM |
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On 8 Jan 2005 14:08:31 -0800, wrote:
The bible has problems with:
the global flood,
a viscious god,
the tower of babel,
creation,
Joshua at Jehrico, etc.
It is not the Bible that has problems with those ..
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| User: "stoney" |
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09 Jan 2005 10:22:27 PM |
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On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 20:02:49 -0500, George Peatty
<pttyg47-1230@copper.net> wrote:
On 8 Jan 2005 14:08:31 -0800, wrote:
The bible has problems with:
the global flood,
a viscious god,
the tower of babel,
creation,
Joshua at Jehrico, etc.
It is not the Bible that has problems with those ..
Since you're totally unfamiliar with the piece of ***** your statement
is to be expected. That the tome is totally disconnected from reality
escapes you. You really should quit spiking your pasties with LSD.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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| User: "Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass" |
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10 Jan 2005 01:39:04 AM |
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On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 20:02:49 -0500, George Peatty
<pttyg47-1230@copper.net> wrote:
On 8 Jan 2005 14:08:31 -0800, wrote:
The bible has problems with:
the global flood,
a viscious god,
the tower of babel,
creation,
Joshua at Jehrico, etc.
It is not the Bible that has problems with those ..
That's becasue the Bible can't be bothered with reality.
-----
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec (aka aka Yang's little poltregeist *****)
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -1352 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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| User: "stoney" |
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10 Jan 2005 10:05:35 PM |
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On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 23:39:04 -0800, "Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's
Cocaine Snorting *****" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 20:02:49 -0500, George Peatty
<pttyg47-1230@copper.net> wrote:
On 8 Jan 2005 14:08:31 -0800, wrote:
The bible has problems with:
the global flood,
a viscious god,
the tower of babel,
creation,
Joshua at Jehrico, etc.
It is not the Bible that has problems with those ..
That's becasue the Bible can't be bothered with reality.
or coherance or from stomping all over its own metaphorical ***** with
hobnail boots.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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| User: "Don Kresch" |
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07 Jan 2005 08:24:50 PM |
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In alt.atheism on Fri, 07 Jan 2005 19:50:06 -0500, George Peatty
<pttyg47-1230@copper.net> let us all know that:
On Fri, 07 Jan 2005 13:22:17 GMT, Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote:
Later he thanked several people for "reminding him" that bats don't
have feathers, which of course destroyed his argument that the Bible
is infallible.
I don't know what Bible you're talking about, but you're not talking about
mine. God is not bound by your taxonomy, and if he wants to classify a bat
as a bird, I got no problem with that. It is, after all, his creation.
And you have no problem with black being white and that we have
always been at war with Eastasia.
Don
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aa #51, Knight of BAAWA, DNRC o-, Member of the [H]orde
Atheist Minister for St. Dogbert.
"No being is so important that he can usurp the rights of another"
Picard to Data/Graves "The Schizoid Man"
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| User: "Uncle Davey" |
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08 Jan 2005 05:13:22 AM |
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"Don Kresch" <ROT13.qxerfpu@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote in message
news:iehut0ljpqne93v5qmkuip18e4ftrfjqis@4ax.com...
In alt.atheism on Fri, 07 Jan 2005 19:50:06 -0500, George Peatty
<pttyg47-1230@copper.net> let us all know that:
On Fri, 07 Jan 2005 13:22:17 GMT, Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote:
Later he thanked several people for "reminding him" that bats don't
have feathers, which of course destroyed his argument that the Bible
is infallible.
I don't know what Bible you're talking about, but you're not talking
about
mine. God is not bound by your taxonomy, and if he wants to classify a
bat
as a bird, I got no problem with that. It is, after all, his creation.
And you have no problem with black being white and that we have
always been at war with Eastasia.
There are more in both those statements than meets the eye as well.
If you mix all colours together in pigments you get black, if you do the
same to light it is white light.
So what is black to pigments is white to light.
I also believe that black and white people should have exactly the same
rights, with no special favours either way.
As to the war with East Asia, it was always clear, from the time the ethnic
mix of Modern America settled as being the kind it is and the dominant
philosophy being what it is, that some kind of conflict with that of East
Asia would develop. If not always a military war, although there have been
and will be such, then at any rate a war of words and ideas.
So the world isn't so simple as you atheists seem to think it is.
Uncle Davey
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| User: "Jos Flachs" |
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08 Jan 2005 06:35:08 PM |
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On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 12:13:22 +0100, "Uncle Davey" <noway@jose.com>
wrote:
There are more in both those statements than meets the eye as well.
If you mix all colours together in pigments you get black, if you do the
same to light it is white light.
So what is black to pigments is white to light.
I also believe that black and white people should have exactly the same
rights, with no special favours either way.
As to the war with East Asia, it was always clear, from the time the ethnic
mix of Modern America settled as being the kind it is and the dominant
philosophy being what it is, that some kind of conflict with that of East
Asia would develop. If not always a military war, although there have been
and will be such, then at any rate a war of words and ideas.
So the world isn't so simple as you atheists seem to think it is.
Uncle Davey
Irony escaped you. (Lucky Irony!)
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| User: "towelie" |
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08 Jan 2005 06:36:59 PM |
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TV's Uncle Davey wrote:
"Don Kresch" <ROT13.qxerfpu@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote in message
news:iehut0ljpqne93v5qmkuip18e4ftrfjqis@4ax.com...
In alt.atheism on Fri, 07 Jan 2005 19:50:06 -0500, George Peatty
<pttyg47-1230@copper.net> let us all know that:
On Fri, 07 Jan 2005 13:22:17 GMT, Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote:
Later he thanked several people for "reminding him" that bats don't
have feathers, which of course destroyed his argument that the Bible
is infallible.
I don't know what Bible you're talking about, but you're not talking
about
mine. God is not bound by your taxonomy, and if he wants to classify a
bat
as a bird, I got no problem with that. It is, after all, his creation.
And you have no problem with black being white and that we have
always been at war with Eastasia.
There are more in both those statements than meets the eye as well.
If you mix all colours together in pigments you get black, if you do the
same to light it is white light.
So what is black to pigments is white to light.
I also believe that black and white people should have exactly the same
rights, with no special favours either way.
As to the war with East Asia, it was always clear, from the time the
ethnic
mix of Modern America settled as being the kind it is and the dominant
philosophy being what it is, that some kind of conflict with that of East
Asia would develop. If not always a military war, although there have been
and will be such, then at any rate a war of words and ideas.
I see the literary reference flew right over your head.
So the world isn't so simple as you atheists seem to think it is.
Uncle Davey
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"Shake says that books are from the devil, and that TV is twice as fast" -
Meatwad
"The Constitution was written on reefer by dudes with wooden teeth" - OG Loc
aa #2133
ap #19
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| User: "Uncle Davey" |
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08 Jan 2005 06:48:01 PM |
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"towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:34bcleF4550v4U1@individual.net...
TV's Uncle Davey wrote:
"Don Kresch" <ROT13.qxerfpu@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote in message
news:iehut0ljpqne93v5qmkuip18e4ftrfjqis@4ax.com...
In alt.atheism on Fri, 07 Jan 2005 19:50:06 -0500, George Peatty
<pttyg47-1230@copper.net> let us all know that:
On Fri, 07 Jan 2005 13:22:17 GMT, Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote:
Later he thanked several people for "reminding him" that bats don't
have feathers, which of course destroyed his argument that the Bible
is infallible.
I don't know what Bible you're talking about, but you're not talking
about
mine. God is not bound by your taxonomy, and if he wants to classify
a
bat
as a bird, I got no problem with that. It is, after all, his
creation.
And you have no problem with black being white and that we have
always been at war with Eastasia.
There are more in both those statements than meets the eye as well.
If you mix all colours together in pigments you get black, if you do the
same to light it is white light.
So what is black to pigments is white to light.
I also believe that black and white people should have exactly the same
rights, with no special favours either way.
As to the war with East Asia, it was always clear, from the time the
ethnic
mix of Modern America settled as being the kind it is and the dominant
philosophy being what it is, that some kind of conflict with that of
East
Asia would develop. If not always a military war, although there have
been
and will be such, then at any rate a war of words and ideas.
I see the literary reference flew right over your head.
Well I started it but I lost my copy, and I haven't bought another because I
keep expecting the lost one to turn up.
Uncle Davey
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08 Jan 2005 07:02:19 PM |
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TV's Uncle Davey wrote:
"towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:34bcleF4550v4U1@individual.net...
TV's Uncle Davey wrote:
"Don Kresch" <ROT13.qxerfpu@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote in message
news:iehut0ljpqne93v5qmkuip18e4ftrfjqis@4ax.com...
In alt.atheism on Fri, 07 Jan 2005 19:50:06 -0500, George Peatty
<pttyg47-1230@copper.net> let us all know that:
On Fri, 07 Jan 2005 13:22:17 GMT, Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote:
Later he thanked several people for "reminding him" that bats don't
have feathers, which of course destroyed his argument that the Bible
is infallible.
I don't know what Bible you're talking about, but you're not talking
about
mine. God is not bound by your taxonomy, and if he wants to classify
a bat
as a bird, I got no problem with that. It is, after all, his
creation.
And you have no problem with black being white and that we have
always been at war with Eastasia.
There are more in both those statements than meets the eye as well.
If you mix all colours together in pigments you get black, if you do the
same to light it is white light.
So what is black to pigments is white to light.
I also believe that black and white people should have exactly the same
rights, with no special favours either way.
As to the war with East Asia, it was always clear, from the time the
ethnic
mix of Modern America settled as being the kind it is and the dominant
philosophy being what it is, that some kind of conflict with that of
East
Asia would develop. If not always a military war, although there have
been
and will be such, then at any rate a war of words and ideas.
I see the literary reference flew right over your head.
Well I started it but I lost my copy, and I haven't bought another because
I
keep expecting the lost one to turn up.
Lost your copy of what? Do you have a clue what we're talking about?
--
"Shake says that books are from the devil, and that TV is twice as fast" -
Meatwad
"The Constitution was written on reefer by dudes with wooden teeth" - OG Loc
aa #2133
ap #19
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| User: "Uncle Davey" |
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| Title: Re: Jason Gastrich: Water Flows UPHILL! |
09 Jan 2005 06:12:28 AM |
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"towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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TV's Uncle Davey wrote:
"towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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TV's Uncle Davey wrote:
"Don Kresch" <ROT13.qxerfpu@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote in message
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In alt.atheism on Fri, 07 Jan 2005 19:50:06 -0500, George Peatty
<pttyg47-1230@copper.net> let us all know that:
On Fri, 07 Jan 2005 13:22:17 GMT, Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote:
Later he thanked several people for "reminding him" that bats don't
have feathers, which of course destroyed his argument that the
Bible
is infallible.
I don't know what Bible you're talking about, but you're not talking
about
mine. God is not bound by your taxonomy, and if he wants to
classify
a bat
as a bird, I got no problem with that. It is, after all, his
creation.
And you have no problem with black being white and that we have
always been at war with Eastasia.
There are more in both those statements than meets the eye as well.
If you mix all colours together in pigments you get black, if you do
the
same to light it is white light.
So what is black to pigments is white to light.
I also believe that black and white people should have exactly the
same
rights, with no special favours either way.
As to the war with East Asia, it was always clear, from the time the
ethnic
mix of Modern America settled as being the kind it is and the dominant
philosophy being what it is, that some kind of conflict with that of
East
Asia would develop. If not always a military war, although there have
been
and will be such, then at any rate a war of words and ideas.
I see the literary reference flew right over your head.
Well I started it but I lost my copy, and I haven't bought another
because
I
keep expecting the lost one to turn up.
Lost your copy of what? Do you have a clue what we're talking about?
I presume you are referring to 1984, by George Orwell.
Uncle Davey
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Jason Gastrich: Water Flows UPHILL! |
09 Jan 2005 08:49:07 AM |
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In our last episode <34bcleF4550v4U1@individual.net>, towelie lept out of
the bushes shouting:
TV's Uncle Davey wrote:
"Don Kresch" <ROT13.qxerfpu@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote in message
news:iehut0ljpqne93v5qmkuip18e4ftrfjqis@4ax.com...
In alt.atheism on Fri, 07 Jan 2005 19:50:06 -0500, George Peatty
<pttyg47-1230@copper.net> let us all know that:
On Fri, 07 Jan 2005 13:22:17 GMT, Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote:
Later he thanked several people for "reminding him" that bats don't
have feathers, which of course destroyed his argument that the Bible
is infallible.
I don't know what Bible you're talking about, but you're not talking
about
mine. God is not bound by your taxonomy, and if he wants to classify
a
bat
as a bird, I got no problem with that. It is, after all, his
creation.
And you have no problem with black being white and that we have always
been at war with Eastasia.
There are more in both those statements than meets the eye as well.
If you mix all colours together in pigments you get black, if you do the
same to light it is white light.
So what is black to pigments is white to light.
I also believe that black and white people should have exactly the same
rights, with no special favours either way.
As to the war with East Asia, it was always clear, from the time the
ethnic
mix of Modern America settled as being the kind it is and the dominant
philosophy being what it is, that some kind of conflict with that of
East Asia would develop. If not always a military war, although there
have been and will be such, then at any rate a war of words and ideas.
I see the literary reference flew right over your head.
Apparently so high, it left only the faintest of contrails...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
-- Seneca the Younger
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| User: "Specter133" |
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| Title: Re: Jason Gastrich: Water Flows UPHILL! |
07 Jan 2005 08:42:28 PM |
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On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 02:24:50 GMT, Don Kresch
<ROT13.qxerfpu@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote:
In alt.atheism on Fri, 07 Jan 2005 19:50:06 -0500, George Peatty
<pttyg47-1230@copper.net> let us all know that:
On Fri, 07 Jan 2005 13:22:17 GMT, Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote:
Later he thanked several people for "reminding him" that bats don't
have feathers, which of course destroyed his argument that the Bible
is infallible.
I don't know what Bible you're talking about, but you're not talking about
mine. God is not bound by your taxonomy, and if he wants to classify a bat
as a bird, I got no problem with that. It is, after all, his creation.
And you have no problem with black being white and that we have
always been at war with Eastasia.
You "Knights of BAAWA" really *do* talk funny.
How do you live with yourselves?
Don
---
aa #51, Knight of BAAWA, DNRC o-, Member of the [H]orde
Atheist Minister for St. Dogbert.
"No being is so important that he can usurp the rights of another"
Picard to Data/Graves "The Schizoid Man"
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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| Title: Re: Jason Gastrich: Water Flows UPHILL! |
08 Jan 2005 04:08:15 AM |
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On Fri, 07 Jan 2005 21:42:28 -0500 in alt.atheism, Specter133
(Specter133 <specter@hotmail.com>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 02:24:50 GMT, Don Kresch
<ROT13.qxerfpu@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote:
In alt.atheism on Fri, 07 Jan 2005 19:50:06 -0500, George Peatty
<pttyg47-1230@copper.net> let us all know that:
On Fri, 07 Jan 2005 13:22:17 GMT, Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote:
Later he thanked several people for "reminding him" that bats don't
have feathers, which of course destroyed his argument that the Bible
is infallible.
I don't know what Bible you're talking about, but you're not talking about
mine. God is not bound by your taxonomy, and if he wants to classify a bat
as a bird, I got no problem with that. It is, after all, his creation.
And you have no problem with black being white and that we have
always been at war with Eastasia.
You "Knights of BAAWA" really *do* talk funny.
How do you live with yourselves?
Possibly by being well read?
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Jason Gastrich: Water Flows UPHILL! |
09 Jan 2005 10:17:09 PM |
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On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 10:08:15 +0000, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote:
On Fri, 07 Jan 2005 21:42:28 -0500 in alt.atheism, Specter133
(Specter133 <specter@hotmail.com>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 02:24:50 GMT, Don Kresch
<ROT13.qxerfpu@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote:
In alt.atheism on Fri, 07 Jan 2005 19:50:06 -0500, George Peatty
<pttyg47-1230@copper.net> let us all know that:
On Fri, 07 Jan 2005 13:22:17 GMT, Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote:
Later he thanked several people for "reminding him" that bats don't
have feathers, which of course destroyed his argument that the Bible
is infallible.
I don't know what Bible you're talking about, but you're not talking about
mine. God is not bound by your taxonomy, and if he wants to classify a bat
as a bird, I got no problem with that. It is, after all, his creation.
And you have no problem with black being white and that we have
always been at war with Eastasia.
You "Knights of BAAWA" really *do* talk funny.
How do you live with yourselves?
Possibly by being well read?
And educated unlike Spector, Jason, George and myraid others.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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| User: "Liz" |
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| Title: Re: Jason Gastrich: Water Flows UPHILL! |
07 Jan 2005 08:57:25 PM |
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On Fri, 07 Jan 2005 21:42:28 -0500, Specter133 <specter@hotmail.com>
in news message <33iut0dv369mk64ophsih8be6hdfdatcdm@4ax.com> wrote:
On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 02:24:50 GMT, Don Kresch
<ROT13.qxerfpu@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote:
In alt.atheism on Fri, 07 Jan 2005 19:50:06 -0500, George Peatty
<pttyg47-1230@copper.net> let us all know that:
On Fri, 07 Jan 2005 13:22:17 GMT, Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote:
Later he thanked several people for "reminding him" that bats don't
have feathers, which of course destroyed his argument that the Bible
is infallible.
I don't know what Bible you're talking about, but you're not talking about
mine. God is not bound by your taxonomy, and if he wants to classify a bat
as a bird, I got no problem with that. It is, after all, his creation.
And you have no problem with black being white and that we have
always been at war with Eastasia.
You "Knights of BAAWA" really *do* talk funny.
You obviously missed the literary reference.
How do you live with yourselves?
Quite well, thank you. We actually find time to read books and learn
things.
Liz #658 BAAWA
Get your facts first, and then you can distort them
as much as you please. -- Mark Twain
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Jason Gastrich: Water Flows UPHILL! |
08 Jan 2005 05:21:06 PM |
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On Fri, 07 Jan 2005 21:42:28 -0500, Specter133 <specter@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 02:24:50 GMT, Don Kresch
<ROT13.qxerfpu@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote:
In alt.atheism on Fri, 07 Jan 2005 19:50:06 -0500, George Peatty
<pttyg47-1230@copper.net> let us all know that:
On Fri, 07 Jan 2005 13:22:17 GMT, Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote:
Later he thanked several people for "reminding him" that bats don't
have feathers, which of course destroyed his argument that the Bible
is infallible.
I don't know what Bible you're talking about, but you're not talking about
mine. God is not bound by your taxonomy, and if he wants to classify a bat
as a bird, I got no problem with that. It is, after all, his creation.
And you have no problem with black being white and that we have
always been at war with Eastasia.
You "Knights of BAAWA" really *do* talk funny.
How do you live with yourselves?
Wow. Amazing, truly amazing. If you truly don't understand that
reference, then I must ask you how do you live with *your* self.
Obviously, you have been wasting time doing whatever you've been
doing. What *else* have you missed out on while you stumble through
life in the godfog?
Don
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aa #51, Knight of BAAWA, DNRC o-, Member of the [H]orde
Atheist Minister for St. Dogbert.
"No being is so important that he can usurp the rights of another"
Picard to Data/Graves "The Schizoid Man"
--
zamboni #2139
BAAWA Assistant to the Vice-Administrator of Malevolence
EAC Tertiary Adjunct to the Dispenser of Obfuscation.
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| User: "Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass" |
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08 Jan 2005 01:24:06 AM |
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On Fri, 07 Jan 2005 21:42:28 -0500, Specter133 <specter@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 02:24:50 GMT, Don Kresch
<ROT13.qxerfpu@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote:
In alt.atheism on Fri, 07 Jan 2005 19:50:06 -0500, George Peatty
<pttyg47-1230@copper.net> let us all know that:
On Fri, 07 Jan 2005 13:22:17 GMT, Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote:
Later he thanked several people for "reminding him" that bats don't
have feathers, which of course destroyed his argument that the Bible
is infallible.
I don't know what Bible you're talking about, but you're not talking about
mine. God is not bound by your taxonomy, and if he wants to classify a bat
as a bird, I got no problem with that. It is, after all, his creation.
And you have no problem with black being white and that we have
always been at war with Eastasia.
You "Knights of BAAWA" really *do* talk funny.
How do you live with yourselves?
Don't good little Christians like you have some kid you need to go
molest?
-----
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec (aka aka Yang's poltregeist *****)
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -1350 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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| User: "Jos Flachs" |
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| Title: Re: Jason Gastrich: Water Flows UPHILL! |
08 Jan 2005 03:54:59 AM |
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On Fri, 07 Jan 2005 21:42:28 -0500, Specter133 <specter@hotmail.com>
wrote:
And you have no problem with black being white and that we have
always been at war with Eastasia.
You "Knights of BAAWA" really *do* talk funny.
Ya'll know, that comes from eating mmon pies.
How do you live with yourselves?
Oh, just as most everybody else. We get by.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: TQOTM Nomination (was: Re: Jason Gastrich: Water Flows UPHILL!) |
08 Jan 2005 09:55:21 AM |
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In our last episode <eebut01e5djgaacrv0die9rnd8nbte01po@4ax.com>, George
Peatty lept out of the bushes shouting:
On Fri, 07 Jan 2005 13:22:17 GMT, Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote:
Later he thanked several people for "reminding him" that bats don't have
feathers, which of course destroyed his argument that the Bible is
infallible.
Nominated part:
I don't know what Bible you're talking about, but you're not talking about
mine. God is not bound by your taxonomy, and if he wants to classify a
bat as a bird, I got no problem with that. It is, after all, his
creation.
End nominated part
Seconds anybody?
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
-----------------------------------------------------------
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
-- Seneca the Younger
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: TQOTM Nomination (was: Re: Jason Gastrich: Water Flows UPHILL!) |
08 Jan 2005 07:22:44 PM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:tMidnYTFDe3KnH3cRVn-3g@megapath.net...
In our last episode <eebut01e5djgaacrv0die9rnd8nbte01po@4ax.com>, George
Peatty lept out of the bushes shouting:
On Fri, 07 Jan 2005 13:22:17 GMT, Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote:
Later he thanked several people for "reminding him" that bats don't have
feathers, which of course destroyed his argument that the Bible is
infallible.
Nominated part:
I don't know what Bible you're talking about, but you're not talking
about
mine. God is not bound by your taxonomy, and if he wants to classify a
bat as a bird, I got no problem with that. It is, after all, his
creation.
End nominated part
Seconds anybody?
I would, but my brain just exploded and is now dripping out of my left
ear..........................gah.
--
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: TQOTM Nomination (was: Re: Jason Gastrich: Water Flows UPHILL!) |
08 Jan 2005 07:58:11 PM |
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In our last episode <34bfb2F49l0i3U1@individual.net>, Robibnikoff lept out
of the bushes shouting:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:tMidnYTFDe3KnH3cRVn-3g@megapath.net...
In our last episode <eebut01e5djgaacrv0die9rnd8nbte01po@4ax.com>, George
Peatty lept out of the bushes shouting:
On Fri, 07 Jan 2005 13:22:17 GMT, Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote:
Later he thanked several people for "reminding him" that bats don't
have feathers, which of course destroyed his argument that the Bible is
infallible.
Nominated part:
I don't know what Bible you're talking about, but you're not talking
about
mine. God is not bound by your taxonomy, and if he wants to classify a
bat as a bird, I got no problem with that. It is, after all, his
creation.
End nominated part
Seconds anybody?
I would, but my brain just exploded and is now dripping out of my left
ear..........................gah.
I ain't moppin' that up...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
-- Seneca the Younger
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: TQOTM Nomination (was: Re: Jason Gastrich: Water Flows UPHILL!) |
08 Jan 2005 08:17:08 PM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:r8SdnU9Y_qw9E33cRVn-uA@megapath.net...
In our last episode <34bfb2F49l0i3U1@individual.net>, Robibnikoff lept out
of the bushes shouting:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:tMidnYTFDe3KnH3cRVn-3g@megapath.net...
In our last episode <eebut01e5djgaacrv0die9rnd8nbte01po@4ax.com>, George
Peatty lept out of the bushes shouting:
On Fri, 07 Jan 2005 13:22:17 GMT, Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote:
Later he thanked several people for "reminding him" that bats don't
have feathers, which of course destroyed his argument that the Bible is
infallible.
Nominated part:
I don't know what Bible you're talking about, but you're not talking
about
mine. God is not bound by your taxonomy, and if he wants to classify a
bat as a bird, I got no problem with that. It is, after all, his
creation.
End nominated part
Seconds anybody?
I would, but my brain just exploded and is now dripping out of my left
ear..........................gah.
I ain't moppin' that up...
No need - The witchling's evil little black cat lapped it
up...............blblblblblblblblblblbl...........
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
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