Mark K. Bilbo wrote:

In our last episode <3xhDd.62249$gd.49359@twister.socal.rr.com>, Jason
Gastrich lept out of the bushes shouting:

I'm not familiar with World Net Daily, but many news companies have
this story.

I have a hard time believing you're not familiar with WND. And if you
aren't familiar with them, why are you relying on them?

They are one of many organizations that reported the story.

Also, no, it's not "many news companies." It's "a few extremist
Christian sites."

Not true.

Regardless, it's a news story and an important issue.

Mark K. Bilbo wrote:

In our last episode <3xhDd.62249$gd.49359@twister.socal.rr.com>, Jason
Gastrich lept out of the bushes shouting:

I'm not familiar with World Net Daily, but many news companies have
this story.

I have a hard time believing you're not familiar with WND. And if you
aren't familiar with them, why are you relying on them?

They are one of many organizations that reported the story.

Also, no, it's not "many news companies." It's "a few extremist
Christian sites."

Not true. Regardless, it's a news story and an important issue.

Kate wrote:

On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 19:04:28 GMT, "Jason Gastrich"
<usenetspam1@yahoo.com> wrote:

You may already be familiar with this situation. If not, please
take a read.

Do you agree with these Christians being jailed? Or do you think
that the City of Philadelphia has gone to far? Why or why not?


Free the Philadelphia 4
December 20, 2004

by Joseph Farah

I'm amazed when seemingly intelligent people tell me they still
think the American Civil Liberties Union is a group that fights

First Amendment freedoms no matter whose ox is being gored.

If that's the case, why is the ACLU not filing amicus briefs in
Philadelphia where four Christians are facing 47 years in jail for
expressing their free-speech rights?

That's right. Four Christians are facing 47 years in prison for
peacefully quoting the Bible, an action an unglued local

determined to be "fighting words" when cited among homosexual
activists.

It all started Oct. 10, when a total of 11 members of Repent

attended a homosexual street festival called "Outfest."

The group, ranging in age from 17 to 72, was surrounded at times

the organizers' security force, known as the "Pink Angels."

Videotapes and still photos taken at the event show the Pink

blocking the path of the Repent America members, shouting at them,
blowing whistles and so forth. The Christians remain peaceful and
calm at all times, despite what appears to be extraordinary
provocation, intimidation and harassment.

Guess who was arrested?

That's right. The Christians.

And they've been charged with a long list of felonies and hate
crimes that would make the Founding Fathers spin in their graves.

Repent America director Michael Marcavage is charged with three
felonies - criminal conspiracy, ethnic intimidation and riot. (If
you're wondering what "ethnic intimidation" means at a homosexual
event, you have to understand the city of Philadelphia has

hate crime laws to protect the sexually aberrant as well as racial
minorities.) He was also hit with five misdemeanors for walking on
the city sidewalks and quoting Holy Scriptures.

Mark Diener and James Cruse are charged with criminal conspiracy,
failure to disperse, disorderly conduct and obstructing highways.
Dennis Green is charged with criminal conspiracy, disorderly

and obstructing highways. The criminal conspiracy charge links all
the defendants together so that Marcavage's "ethnic intimidation"
hate-crime charge will apply to all of them.

This is one of the most brazen, frontal attacks on religious

and free speech I have seen in my lifetime. If these charges

Christians across America will soon be hunted down like dogs as

are in many parts of the world today as the most persecuted
religious group on the planet.

It's ironic that this persecution would take place in

the so-called "City of Brotherly Love."

Of course, Philadelphia wasn't always so inhospitable to

It's worth remembering the very first legislative act in
Pennsylvania, April 25, 1682. It was called the Great Law of
Pennsylvania - and great it was.

"Whereas the glory of Almighty God and the good of mankind is the
reason and the end of government, and, therefore government itself
is a venerable ordinance of God ... [there shall be established]
laws as shall best preserve true Christian and civil liberty, in
opposition to all unchristian, licentious, and unjust practices,
whereby God may have his due, and Caesar his due, and the people
their due, from tyranny and oppression."

If indeed the Philadelphia 4 are convicted and sentenced to hard
time, Christians need to march on the Philadelphia courthouse,
encircle it, blow the trumpets and prepare to watch God work a
miracle like He did at Jericho.

We should do this not just for the injustice to the four

Christians, but because no one in America - not Christians or
non-Christians, not black or white, not homosexual or heterosexual

will truly be free. We will be living in a country where people

be imprisoned arbitrarily for breaking no law other than the law

"political correctness."

If we're going to save freedom in America, it's going to take a
miracle.

Will you come to Philadelphia?

=A9 2004 WorldNetDaily.com
Posted: December 20, 2004

Well first of all, world nut daily is notorious for not reporting

facts, so you really can't rely on anything they post.

Second, your christians weren't charged with expressing themselves,
they were charged with acting out in a way that harmed the public

the public's right to pass.

I'm sorry you think that doing all those things is only OK if you

a Christian.

I'm not familiar with World Net Daily, but many news companies have

story.

Your second point and last sentence are incorrect.

Here are the charges:

The counts read to them by the bail commissioner included:



1.. "ethnic intimidation" (2nd-degree felony "hate crime").

2.. "criminal conspiracy" (1st-degree felony).

3.. "possession of instruments of crime" (1st-degree misdemeanor).

4.. "reckless endangerment of another person" (2nd-degree felony).

5.. "riot" (3rd-degree felony).

6.. "failure to disperse" (2nd-degree misdemeanor).

7.. "disorderly conduct" (2nd-degree misdemeanor).

8.. "obstructing a highway" (3rd-degree misdemeanor).,

They were clearly charged with more things than you know (or said).

Citation: http://www.cwfa.org/articles/6522/CFI/family/

The primary question here is whether or not justice was served and

or not is should be a crime to speak against homosexuality in public.

Kate wrote:

On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 19:04:28 GMT, "Jason Gastrich"
<usenetspam1@yahoo.com> wrote:

You may already be familiar with this situation. If not, please
take a read.

=A9 2004 WorldNetDaily.com
Posted: December 20, 2004

Well first of all, world nut daily is notorious for not reporting

facts, so you really can't rely on anything they post.

Second, your christians weren't charged with expressing themselves,
they were charged with acting out in a way that harmed the public

the public's right to pass.

I'm sorry you think that doing all those things is only OK if you

a Christian.

I'm not familiar with World Net Daily, but many news companies have

story.

Your second point and last sentence are incorrect.

They were clearly charged with more things than you know (or said).
Citation: http://www.cwfa.org/articles/6522/CFI/family/

The primary question here is whether or not justice was served and

or not is should be a crime to speak against homosexuality in public.

I'm not familiar with World Net Daily, but many news companies have this
story.

Your second point and last sentence are incorrect. Here are the charges:
The counts read to them by the bail commissioner included:
1.. "ethnic intimidation" (2nd-degree felony "hate crime").
2.. "criminal conspiracy" (1st-degree felony).
3.. "possession of instruments of crime" (1st-degree misdemeanor).
4.. "reckless endangerment of another person" (2nd-degree felony).
5.. "riot" (3rd-degree felony).
6.. "failure to disperse" (2nd-degree misdemeanor).
7.. "disorderly conduct" (2nd-degree misdemeanor).
8.. "obstructing a highway" (3rd-degree misdemeanor).,

They were clearly charged with more things than you know (or said).
Citation: http://www.cwfa.org/articles/6522/CFI/family/

The primary question here is whether or not justice was served and whether
or not is should be a crime to speak against homosexuality in public.

Kate wrote:

On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 19:04:28 GMT, "Jason Gastrich"
<usenetspam1@yahoo.com> wrote:

You may already be familiar with this situation. If not, please
take a read.

Do you agree with these Christians being jailed? Or do you think
that the City of Philadelphia has gone to far? Why or why not?


Free the Philadelphia 4
December 20, 2004

by Joseph Farah

I'm amazed when seemingly intelligent people tell me they still
think the American Civil Liberties Union is a group that fights for
First Amendment freedoms no matter whose ox is being gored.

If that's the case, why is the ACLU not filing amicus briefs in
Philadelphia where four Christians are facing 47 years in jail for
expressing their free-speech rights?

That's right. Four Christians are facing 47 years in prison for
peacefully quoting the Bible, an action an unglued local prosecutor
determined to be "fighting words" when cited among homosexual
activists.

It all started Oct. 10, when a total of 11 members of Repent America
attended a homosexual street festival called "Outfest."

The group, ranging in age from 17 to 72, was surrounded at times by
the organizers' security force, known as the "Pink Angels."

Videotapes and still photos taken at the event show the Pink Angels
blocking the path of the Repent America members, shouting at them,
blowing whistles and so forth. The Christians remain peaceful and
calm at all times, despite what appears to be extraordinary
provocation, intimidation and harassment.

Guess who was arrested?

That's right. The Christians.

And they've been charged with a long list of felonies and hate
crimes that would make the Founding Fathers spin in their graves.

Repent America director Michael Marcavage is charged with three
felonies - criminal conspiracy, ethnic intimidation and riot. (If
you're wondering what "ethnic intimidation" means at a homosexual
event, you have to understand the city of Philadelphia has extended
hate crime laws to protect the sexually aberrant as well as racial
minorities.) He was also hit with five misdemeanors for walking on
the city sidewalks and quoting Holy Scriptures.

Mark Diener and James Cruse are charged with criminal conspiracy,
failure to disperse, disorderly conduct and obstructing highways.
Dennis Green is charged with criminal conspiracy, disorderly conduct
and obstructing highways. The criminal conspiracy charge links all
the defendants together so that Marcavage's "ethnic intimidation"
hate-crime charge will apply to all of them.

This is one of the most brazen, frontal attacks on religious freedom
and free speech I have seen in my lifetime. If these charges stand,
Christians across America will soon be hunted down like dogs as they
are in many parts of the world today as the most persecuted
religious group on the planet.

It's ironic that this persecution would take place in Philadelphia,
the so-called "City of Brotherly Love."

Of course, Philadelphia wasn't always so inhospitable to Christians.

It's worth remembering the very first legislative act in
Pennsylvania, April 25, 1682. It was called the Great Law of
Pennsylvania - and great it was.

"Whereas the glory of Almighty God and the good of mankind is the
reason and the end of government, and, therefore government itself
is a venerable ordinance of God ... [there shall be established]
laws as shall best preserve true Christian and civil liberty, in
opposition to all unchristian, licentious, and unjust practices,
whereby God may have his due, and Caesar his due, and the people
their due, from tyranny and oppression."

If indeed the Philadelphia 4 are convicted and sentenced to hard
time, Christians need to march on the Philadelphia courthouse,
encircle it, blow the trumpets and prepare to watch God work a
miracle like He did at Jericho.

We should do this not just for the injustice to the four Philadelphia
Christians, but because no one in America - not Christians or
non-Christians, not black or white, not homosexual or heterosexual -
will truly be free. We will be living in a country where people can
be imprisoned arbitrarily for breaking no law other than the law of
"political correctness."

If we're going to save freedom in America, it's going to take a
miracle.

Will you come to Philadelphia?

© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com
Posted: December 20, 2004

Well first of all, world nut daily is notorious for not reporting the
facts, so you really can't rely on anything they post.

Second, your christians weren't charged with expressing themselves,
they were charged with acting out in a way that harmed the public and
the public's right to pass.

I'm sorry you think that doing all those things is only OK if you are
a Christian.

I'm not familiar with World Net Daily, but many news companies have this
story.

Your second point and last sentence are incorrect. Here are the charges:

The counts read to them by the bail commissioner included:



1.. "ethnic intimidation" (2nd-degree felony "hate crime").

2.. "criminal conspiracy" (1st-degree felony).

3.. "possession of instruments of crime" (1st-degree misdemeanor).

4.. "reckless endangerment of another person" (2nd-degree felony).

5.. "riot" (3rd-degree felony).

6.. "failure to disperse" (2nd-degree misdemeanor).

7.. "disorderly conduct" (2nd-degree misdemeanor).

8.. "obstructing a highway" (3rd-degree misdemeanor).,

They were clearly charged with more things than you know (or said).
Citation: http://www.cwfa.org/articles/6522/CFI/family/

The primary question here is whether or not justice was served and whether
or not is should be a crime to speak against homosexuality in public.

You may already be familiar with this situation. If not, please take a
read.

Do you agree with these Christians being jailed? Or do you think that the
City of Philadelphia has gone to far? Why or why not?


Free the Philadelphia 4
December 20, 2004

by Joseph Farah

You may already be familiar with this situation. If not, please take a
read.

Do you agree with these Christians being jailed? Or do you think that the
City of Philadelphia has gone to far? Why or why not?

You may already be familiar with this situation. If not, please take a
read.

Do you agree with these Christians being jailed? Or do you think that the
City of Philadelphia has gone to far? Why or why not?


Free the Philadelphia 4
December 20, 2004

by Joseph Farah

I'm amazed when seemingly intelligent people tell me they still think the
American Civil Liberties Union is a group that fights for First Amendment
freedoms no matter whose ox is being gored.

If that's the case, why is the ACLU not filing amicus briefs in
Philadelphia
where four Christians are facing 47 years in jail for expressing their
free-speech rights?

That's right. Four Christians are facing 47 years in prison for peacefully
quoting the Bible, an action an unglued local prosecutor determined to be
"fighting words" when cited among homosexual activists.

It all started Oct. 10, when a total of 11 members of Repent America
attended a homosexual street festival called "Outfest."

The group, ranging in age from 17 to 72, was surrounded at times by the
organizers' security force, known as the "Pink Angels."

Videotapes and still photos taken at the event show the Pink Angels
blocking
the path of the Repent America members, shouting at them, blowing whistles
and so forth. The Christians remain peaceful and calm at all times,
despite
what appears to be extraordinary provocation, intimidation and harassment.

Guess who was arrested?

That's right. The Christians.

And they've been charged with a long list of felonies and hate crimes that
would make the Founding Fathers spin in their graves.

Repent America director Michael Marcavage is charged with three felonies -
criminal conspiracy, ethnic intimidation and riot. (If you're wondering
what
"ethnic intimidation" means at a homosexual event, you have to understand
the city of Philadelphia has extended hate crime laws to protect the
sexually aberrant as well as racial minorities.) He was also hit with five
misdemeanors for walking on the city sidewalks and quoting Holy
Scriptures.

Mark Diener and James Cruse are charged with criminal conspiracy, failure
to
disperse, disorderly conduct and obstructing highways. Dennis Green is
charged with criminal conspiracy, disorderly conduct and obstructing
highways. The criminal conspiracy charge links all the defendants together
so that Marcavage's "ethnic intimidation" hate-crime charge will apply to
all of them.

This is one of the most brazen, frontal attacks on religious freedom and
free speech I have seen in my lifetime. If these charges stand, Christians
across America will soon be hunted down like dogs as they are in many
parts
of the world today as the most persecuted religious group on the planet.

It's ironic that this persecution would take place in Philadelphia, the
so-called "City of Brotherly Love."

Of course, Philadelphia wasn't always so inhospitable to Christians.

It's worth remembering the very first legislative act in Pennsylvania,
April
25, 1682. It was called the Great Law of Pennsylvania - and great it was.

"Whereas the glory of Almighty God and the good of mankind is the reason
and
the end of government, and, therefore government itself is a venerable
ordinance of God ... [there shall be established] laws as shall best
preserve true Christian and civil liberty, in opposition to all
unchristian,
licentious, and unjust practices, whereby God may have his due, and Caesar
his due, and the people their due, from tyranny and oppression."

If indeed the Philadelphia 4 are convicted and sentenced to hard time,
Christians need to march on the Philadelphia courthouse, encircle it, blow
the trumpets and prepare to watch God work a miracle like He did at
Jericho.

We should do this not just for the injustice to the four Philadelphia
Christians, but because no one in America - not Christians or
non-Christians, not black or white, not homosexual or heterosexual - will
truly be free. We will be living in a country where people can be
imprisoned
arbitrarily for breaking no law other than the law of "political
correctness."

If we're going to save freedom in America, it's going to take a miracle.

Will you come to Philadelphia?

© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com
Posted: December 20, 2004





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