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User: "DAVID J STEWART"
Date: 11 Jun 2006 08:57:46 PM
Object: Christians Don't Understand Wicca?
Christians Don't Understand Wicca?
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Wicca%20&%20Witchcraft/christians_don't_understand_wicca.htm
by David J. Stewart
I have received several e-mails lately from pagans and Wiccans accusing me
of ignorance about Wicca. They tell me to go to websites such as
www.witchvox.com to educate myself. Well, I have been to witchvox and I
have studies their beliefs. One of the biggest criticisms I receive from
the Wicca witches is that they don't believe in Satan and that I'm totally
out of the ballpark to even associate them with Satan. The pagan witches
teach that Christians created the devil, and even the term "pagan." Wiccans
blame Christians for creating all the distortions about what Wicca is really
all about. For a Biblical overview of what Wicca is truly about, please
read Wicca (neo-paganism). According to Wiccans, the devil is only a
boogeyman created by Christians to scare the world. Wicca teaches that
Lucifer is the true god, the god of light and goodness.
May I say, Wicca is of the devil. Wicca witchcraft is Satanic to the
core, straight out of the pits of hell. Just because Wicca witches want to
discredit the Bible and eliminate the clear teachings of Scripture doesn't
mean that it is so. Listen to what the Bible teaches...
"For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus
Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist." -2nd
John 1:7
Wiccans are deceivers and antichrists! Wicca witches teach that there are
many hundreds of deities that we can worship, but Jesus Christ is NOT one of
them. The Bible teaches that there is ONLY ONE GOD (Deuteronomy 6:4; Isaiah
43:10,11). Wiccans are idolaters. Wicca has no place for the Lord Jesus
Christ or the Word of God. Wiccans try to deceive the masses by propagating
that they don't believe in Satan, so how can they be Satanic? This logic
only applies within the Wicca cult itself, not in reality. The entire
premise of Wicca's white witchcraft is that the Bible is NOT true. The
King James Bible is the preserved, infallible, inerrant, inspired Word of
God. The Bible teaches that believers were first called "Christians" at
Antioch by the heathen (Acts 11:26). Just as Wiccans claim that Christians
were the first to call them "pagans," so also it was the pagans who first
called born again believers "Christians." I am a born again believer and I
believe that the King James Bible is God's Word. Jesus is the Saviour and I
have trusted Him to forgive my sins and take me to heaven.
"Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is
antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son." -1st John 2:22
Everything about Wicca witchcraft goes contrary to the Bible. There is no
way to deal with your sins in Wicca. Where does Wicca address the fact that
we are sinners in need of forgiveness? Nowhere! Wicca is a false religion,
damning the souls of it's adherents to hell. Wiccans can accuse Christians
of being ignorant concerning their beliefs, but it is simply not true. I
realize that Wiccans don't believe in Satan, but Christians certainly DO
because the Bible says there is a devil. It is NOT about Christians being
the enemies of Wicca, it is about the Bible, the Word of God, being the
enemy of Wicca. Wiccans like to target Christians with their propaganda,
while avoiding challenging the irrefutable Word of God. Not one spade-full
of archeologists dirt has ever disproved the Bible. Science has not
disproved the Bible. History has not disproved the Bible. Wicca has no
solid rock upon which there house is built, but is rather built upon
uncertain sand. The Christian's faith is built upon the rock solid Word of
God, the Lord Jesus Christ (Revelation 19:13).
It is not my ignorance of Wicca that causes me to say that "Wicca is
Satanic," it is my knowledge of the Word of God. Wiccans tell on themselves
when they declare that Lucifer is the god of light...
"And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of
light." -2nd Corinthians 11:14
I plead with you in Jesus' name to depart from Wicca's works of darkness.
Wicca is a certain path to eternal destruction in the lake of fire
(Revelation 20:15). Wicca is Satanic! Wiccans can deny this allegation all
they want to, but they are certainly of the devil, their master. Satan is a
great deceiver...
"And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil,
and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth,
and his angels were cast out with him." -Revelation 12:9
Satan has deceived the WHOLE WORLD (1st John 5:19). 98% of the world's
masses are bound for hell without Jesus Christ. Catholicism is a lie of the
devil. Islam is a lie of the devil. Buddhism is a lie of the devil.
Mormonism is a lie of the devil. Religious diversity is a lie of the devil.
Wicca is a lie of the devil. Freemasonry is a lie of the devil. Atheism is
a lie of the devil. New Age is a lie of the devil. ONLY through Jesus
Christ can anyone obtain the forgiveness of sins and go to heaven. This is
not just what Christians teach, it is what the Bible teaches. Either you
believe the Bible or you don't. Have you also been deceived?
Wicca is all about Satanism. Although Wicca does not practice the type of
Satanism associated with such groups as the Church of Satan (who openly
declare Satan's existence), Wicca does practice it's own version of Satanism
(which sees Lucifer as good, undeserving of the title "Satan"). Either way,
Wiccans and Satanists worship the same false god. Lucifer is a two-time
loser, cast out of heaven and soon to be cast into hell. Lucifer is the
devil, Satan, the beast. Would it satisfy the godless Witches if I said
that Wicca is all about Luciferianism? Whether the Wiccan Lucifer or the
Christian Satan, it is the SAME evil being...old smut face himself. This is
my response to the foolish accusations from Wiccans that Christians are
ignorant of what Wicca believes. Christians are NOT ignorant of Wicca
witchcraft, we're just not going to recognize your lies and distortions of
the Word of God. Satan is a DECEIVER! Deceitfulness is the hallmark of
Lucifer, Satan.
Satan works his lying wonders and fools the masses, but we are NOT
fooled...
"Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and
signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in
them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they
might be saved."-2nd Thessalonians 2:9,10
I am sickened as I watch FOX Lies (news) on the TV. The masses have been
lied to about everything from 911 to Roman Catholicism, from the Oklahoma
City Bombing to Iraq. George W. Bush is a man of lying wonders, as is Bill
Clinton and others. Wicca is also a LIE of the devil. Satan is a master
counterfeiter, a wolf in sheep's clothing. Please don't be deceived my
friend, the Word of God vehemently condemn witchcraft and idolatry. There
is NO good in serving the devil through Wicca, only a road to destruction
paved with neon lights and good intentions....
"There is a way that seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the
ways of death." -Proverb 16:25
How to go to Heaven
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Wicca's Untrue History
"... the sin of witchcraft..." -1st Samuel 15:23
.

User: "Jani"

Title: Re: Christians Don't Understand Wicca? 12 Jun 2006 09:18:04 AM
"DAVID J STEWART" <freedom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:uS3jg.11946$921.4685@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net...

Christians Don't Understand Wicca?

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Wicca%20&%20Witchcraft/christians_don't_understand_wicca.htm

by David J. Stewart




I have received several e-mails lately from pagans and Wiccans accusing
me of ignorance about Wicca.

Judging by your rant here and on your website, they'd be absolutely right.
Jani
<snipped hysterical babble>
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Christians Don't Understand Wicca? 17 Jun 2006 11:14:49 PM
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 15:18:04 +0100, "Jani" <jani@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in
alt.atheism


"DAVID J STEWART" <freedom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:uS3jg.11946$921.4685@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net...

Christians Don't Understand Wicca?

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Wicca%20&%20Witchcraft/christians_don't_understand_wicca.htm

by David J. Stewart
I have received several e-mails lately from pagans and Wiccans accusing
me of ignorance about Wicca.


Judging by your rant here and on your website, they'd be absolutely right.

Terminal willful ignorance and he's proud of it. Stupid *****, posting
drooling idiocy from his bronze age snuff book as if it has any meaning.

Jani
<snipped hysterical babble>

What's really scary, Jani, is the braindead like him can not only vote
but spawn too.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
.
User: "Jani"

Title: Re: Christians Don't Understand Wicca? 18 Jun 2006 04:30:57 AM
"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
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On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 15:18:04 +0100, "Jani" <jani@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in
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"DAVID J STEWART" <freedom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:uS3jg.11946$921.4685@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net...

Christians Don't Understand Wicca?

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Wicca%20&%20Witchcraft/christians_don't_understand_wicca.htm

by David J. Stewart


I have received several e-mails lately from pagans and Wiccans accusing
me of ignorance about Wicca.


Judging by your rant here and on your website, they'd be absolutely right.


Terminal willful ignorance and he's proud of it. Stupid *****, posting
drooling idiocy from his bronze age snuff book as if it has any meaning.

Jani
<snipped hysterical babble>


What's really scary, Jani, is the braindead like him can not only vote
but spawn too.

Y'know, come to think of it, I've never met a fundy nutbar who also happens
to be childfree .....
Jani
(breeder, yes, but of happy rational agnostics)
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Christians Don't Understand Wicca? 21 Jun 2006 08:00:01 AM
On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 10:30:57 +0100, "Jani" <jani@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in
alt.atheism


"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
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On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 15:18:04 +0100, "Jani" <jani@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in
alt.atheism


"DAVID J STEWART" <freedom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:uS3jg.11946$921.4685@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net...

Christians Don't Understand Wicca?

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Wicca%20&%20Witchcraft/christians_don't_understand_wicca.htm

by David J. Stewart


I have received several e-mails lately from pagans and Wiccans accusing
me of ignorance about Wicca.


Judging by your rant here and on your website, they'd be absolutely right.


Terminal willful ignorance and he's proud of it. Stupid *****, posting
drooling idiocy from his bronze age snuff book as if it has any meaning.

Jani
<snipped hysterical babble>


What's really scary, Jani, is the braindead like him can not only vote
but spawn too.


Y'know, come to think of it, I've never met a fundy nutbar who also happens
to be childfree .....

Jani
(breeder, yes, but of happy rational agnostics)

Ah, but what is there to be agnostic about? [bg]
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
.




User: "kathryn"

Title: Re: Christians Don't Understand Wicca? 12 Jun 2006 01:28:23 PM
"DAVID J STEWART" <freedom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:uS3jg.11946$921.4685@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net...

Christians Don't Understand Wicca?

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Wicca%20&%20Witchcraft/christians_don't_understand_wicca.htm

by David J. Stewart

Clearly you don't, but then christians don't seem to understand much.
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Christians Don't Understand Wicca? 17 Jun 2006 11:15:17 PM
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 19:28:23 +0100, "kathryn" <nospam@here.com> wrote in
alt.atheism


"DAVID J STEWART" <freedom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:uS3jg.11946$921.4685@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net...

Christians Don't Understand Wicca?

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Wicca%20&%20Witchcraft/christians_don't_understand_wicca.htm

by David J. Stewart

Clearly you don't, but then christians don't seem to understand much.

Lack of functioning neurons.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
.


User: "Sara Brum"

Title: Re: Christians Don't Understand Wicca? 11 Jun 2006 11:11:49 PM
"DAVID J STEWART" <freedom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:uS3jg.11946$921.4685@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net...

Christians Don't Understand Wicca?

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Wicca%20&%20Witchcraft/christians_don't_understand_wicca.htm

by David J. Stewart

I have received several e-mails lately from pagans and Wiccans accusing
me of ignorance about Wicca. They tell me to go to websites such as
www.witchvox.com to educate myself. Well, I have been to witchvox and I
have studies their beliefs. One of the biggest criticisms I receive from
the Wicca witches is that they don't believe in Satan and that I'm totally
out of the ballpark to even associate them with Satan. The pagan witches
teach that Christians created the devil, and even the term "pagan."
Wiccans blame Christians for creating all the distortions about what Wicca
is really all about. For a Biblical overview of what Wicca is truly
about, please read Wicca (neo-paganism). According to Wiccans, the devil
is only a boogeyman created by Christians to scare the world. Wicca
teaches that Lucifer is the true god, the god of light and goodness.

Wicca teaches nothing of the sort. Do you think your god would approve of
such a bald-faced lie? I'd suggest you actually read what is presented on
the very site you referenced:
http://www.witchvox.com/va/dt_va.html?a=usfl&c=basics&id=2870
Next you'll be telling us atheists worship Satan.
Remainder of self-serving tripe snipped for brevity. Unrelated newsgroups
trimmed.
.

User: "towelie"

Title: Re: Christians Don't Understand Wicca? 11 Jun 2006 11:31:37 PM
DAVID J STEWART wrote:

Christians Don't Understand Wicca?

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Wicca%20&%20Witchcraft/christians_don't_understand_wicca.htm

by David J. Stewart




I have received several e-mails lately from pagans and Wiccans
accusing me of ignorance about Wicca. They tell me to go to
websites such as www.witchvox.com to educate myself. Well, I have
been to witchvox and I have studies their beliefs. One of the
biggest criticisms I receive from the Wicca witches is that they
don't believe in Satan and that I'm totally out of the ballpark to
even associate them with Satan. The pagan witches teach that
Christians created the devil, and even the term "pagan." Wiccans
blame Christians for creating all the distortions about what Wicca is
really all about. For a Biblical overview of what Wicca is truly
about, please read Wicca (neo-paganism). According to Wiccans, the
devil is only a boogeyman created by Christians to scare the world. Wicca
teaches that Lucifer is the true god, the god of light and
goodness.
May I say, Wicca is of the devil. Wicca witchcraft is Satanic to the
core, straight out of the pits of hell. Just because Wicca witches
want to discredit the Bible and eliminate the clear teachings of
Scripture doesn't mean that it is so. Listen to what the Bible
teaches...
"For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that
Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an
antichrist." -2nd John 1:7

Post lying *****, then post unrelated scripture. You bible thumpers are
a broken record.
.

User: ""

Title: Re: Christians Don't Understand Wicca? 15 Jun 2006 03:51:45 PM
DAVID J STEWART wrote:

Christians Don't Understand Wicca?

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Wicca%20&%20Witchcraft/christians_don't_understand_wicca.htm

by David J. Stewart




I have received several e-mails lately from pagans and Wiccans accusing me
of ignorance about Wicca. They tell me to go to websites such as
www.witchvox.com to educate myself. Well, I have been to witchvox and I
have studies their beliefs. One of the biggest criticisms I receive from
the Wicca witches is that they don't believe in Satan and that I'm totally
out of the ballpark to even associate them with Satan. The pagan witches
teach that Christians created the devil, and even the term "pagan." Wiccans
blame Christians for creating all the distortions about what Wicca is really
all about. For a Biblical overview of what Wicca is truly about, please
read Wicca (neo-paganism). According to Wiccans, the devil is only a
boogeyman created by Christians to scare the world. Wicca teaches that
Lucifer is the true god, the god of light and goodness.

I have always wondered why Lucifer means lightbringer. Isn't bringing
light a good thing?
http://www.theosophy-nw.org/theosnw/world/christ/xt-ibel2.htm
The word Lucifer is found in only one place in the Bible -- Isaiah
14:12 -- but only in the King James and related versions: "How art thou
fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! . . ." The New
Revised Standard Version translates the same passage as "How you are
fallen from heaven, O Day Star, Son of Dawn!" In other translations we
find: "O shining star of the dawn!" (Moffatt) or "O morning-star, son
of the dawn!" (Hebrew Bible). The King James Version is based on the
Vulgate, the Latin translation of Jerome. Jerome translated the Hebrew
helel (bright or brilliant one) as "lucifer," which was a reasonable
Latin equivalent. And yet it is this lucifer, the bright one or
lightbearer, that came to be understood by so many as the name for
Satan, Lord of Darkness.
http://lds-mormon.com/lucifer.shtml
The irony for those who believe that "Lucifer" refers to Satan is that
the same title ('morning star' or 'light-bearer') is used to refer to
Jesus, in 2 Peter 1:19, where the Greek text has exactly the same term:
'phos-phoros' 'light-bearer.' This is also the term used for Jesus in
Revelation 22:16.
Early Christains even had a Saint by the name of Lucifer.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Lucifer
Lucifer or Lucifer Calaritanus (d. 370 or 371) was a bishop of Cagliari
in Sardinia and Christian saint known for his passionate opposition to
Arianism.
Arianism was a Christological view held by followers of Arius, a
Christian priest who lived and taught in Alexandria, Egypt, in the
early 4th century. Arius taught that God the Father and the Son were
not co-eternal, seeing the pre-incarnate Jesus as a divine being but
nonetheless created by (and consequently inferior to) the Father at
some point, before which the Son did not exist.
At the Council of Milan in 354 Luficer defended Athanasius , another
strong opponent of Arianism, and he opposed the Arians so powerfully
that they had the Emperor Constantius II (an Arian sympathizer) confine
Lucifer for three days in the palace. While in confinement, Saint
Lucifer argued so strongly with the emperor that he was banished, first
to Palestine and then to Thebes, Egypt. While in exile, he wrote fiery
letters to the emperor that put him in danger of martyrdom.
After the death of Constantius and the accession of Julian the
Apostate, Lucifer was released in 362. However, he would not be
reconciled to former Arians. He consecrated bishop Paulinus, without
license, creating the schism of Meletius. He may have been
excommunicated, as is hinted in the writings of Saint Ambrose and Saint
Augustine and Saint Jerome, who refers to his followers as Luciferians,
a sect that survived in scattered remnants into the early 5th century.
Jerome, in his polemic Altercatio Luciferiani et orthodoxi
("Altercation of the Luciferian and the orthodox"), offers almost all
that is known of Lucifer or the sect.
Lucifer of Cagliari's chief writings, against Arianism and
reconciliation with heresy, include De non conveniendo ***** haereticis,
De regibus apostaticis, and De S. Athanasio.
His feast day in the Catholic Church is May 20. His name demonstrates
that "Lucifer" (meaning "light-bringer") was not yet merely a synonym
of "Satan" in the 4th century. However, hasty references by
enthusiastic 19th century biblical scholars assumed from the name that
the Luciferians were Satanists. Therefore, although his cultus has not
been suppressed nor his canonization reevaluated, he is not often
celebrated or spoken of in the calendar.
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Christians Don't Understand Christianity. 16 Jun 2006 10:57:15 AM
wrote:

DAVID J STEWART wrote:

Christians Don't Understand Wicca?

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Wicca%20&%20Witchcraft=

/christians_don't_understand_wicca.htm


by David J. Stewart




I have received several e-mails lately from pagans and Wiccans accusi=

ng me

of ignorance about Wicca. They tell me to go to websites such as
www.witchvox.com to educate myself. Well, I have been to witchvox and I
have studies their beliefs. One of the biggest criticisms I receive fr=

om

the Wicca witches is that they don't believe in Satan and that I'm tota=

lly

out of the ballpark to even associate them with Satan. The pagan witch=

es

teach that Christians created the devil, and even the term "pagan." Wi=

ccans

blame Christians for creating all the distortions about what Wicca is r=

eally

all about. For a Biblical overview of what Wicca is truly about, please
read Wicca (neo-paganism). According to Wiccans, the devil is only a
boogeyman created by Christians to scare the world. Wicca teaches that
Lucifer is the true god, the god of light and goodness.


I have always wondered why Lucifer means lightbringer. Isn't bringing
light a good thing?

http://www.theosophy-nw.org/theosnw/world/christ/xt-ibel2.htm

The word Lucifer is found in only one place in the Bible -- Isaiah
14:12 -- but only in the King James and related versions: "How art thou
fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! . . ." The New
Revised Standard Version translates the same passage as "How you are
fallen from heaven, O Day Star, Son of Dawn!" In other translations we
find: "O shining star of the dawn!" (Moffatt) or "O morning-star, son
of the dawn!" (Hebrew Bible). The King James Version is based on the
Vulgate, the Latin translation of Jerome. Jerome translated the Hebrew
helel (bright or brilliant one) as "lucifer," which was a reasonable
Latin equivalent. And yet it is this lucifer, the bright one or
lightbearer, that came to be understood by so many as the name for
Satan, Lord of Darkness.


http://lds-mormon.com/lucifer.shtml

The irony for those who believe that "Lucifer" refers to Satan is that
the same title ('morning star' or 'light-bearer') is used to refer to
Jesus, in 2 Peter 1:19, where the Greek text has exactly the same term:
'phos-phoros' 'light-bearer.' This is also the term used for Jesus in
Revelation 22:16.

Early Christains even had a Saint by the name of Lucifer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Lucifer

Lucifer or Lucifer Calaritanus (d. 370 or 371) was a bishop of Cagliari
in Sardinia and Christian saint known for his passionate opposition to
Arianism.

Arianism was a Christological view held by followers of Arius, a
Christian priest who lived and taught in Alexandria, Egypt, in the
early 4th century. Arius taught that God the Father and the Son were
not co-eternal, seeing the pre-incarnate Jesus as a divine being but
nonetheless created by (and consequently inferior to) the Father at
some point, before which the Son did not exist.

At the Council of Milan in 354 Luficer defended Athanasius , another
strong opponent of Arianism, and he opposed the Arians so powerfully
that they had the Emperor Constantius II (an Arian sympathizer) confine
Lucifer for three days in the palace. While in confinement, Saint
Lucifer argued so strongly with the emperor that he was banished, first
to Palestine and then to Thebes, Egypt. While in exile, he wrote fiery
letters to the emperor that put him in danger of martyrdom.

After the death of Constantius and the accession of Julian the
Apostate, Lucifer was released in 362. However, he would not be
reconciled to former Arians. He consecrated bishop Paulinus, without
license, creating the schism of Meletius. He may have been
excommunicated, as is hinted in the writings of Saint Ambrose and Saint
Augustine and Saint Jerome, who refers to his followers as Luciferians,
a sect that survived in scattered remnants into the early 5th century.
Jerome, in his polemic Altercatio Luciferiani et orthodoxi
("Altercation of the Luciferian and the orthodox"), offers almost all
that is known of Lucifer or the sect.

Lucifer of Cagliari's chief writings, against Arianism and
reconciliation with heresy, include De non conveniendo ***** haereticis,
De regibus apostaticis, and De S. Athanasio.

His feast day in the Catholic Church is May 20. His name demonstrates
that "Lucifer" (meaning "light-bringer") was not yet merely a synonym
of "Satan" in the 4th century. However, hasty references by
enthusiastic 19th century biblical scholars assumed from the name that
the Luciferians were Satanists. Therefore, although his cultus has not
been suppressed nor his canonization reevaluated, he is not often
celebrated or spoken of in the calendar.

For Christians to not know that Lucifer isn't really another name for
Satan and that even an early Church father and saint was named Lucifer
shows Christians don't know much about THEIR OWN faith.
You know another thing that really bugs me. It is when Christians say
that Xmas crosses Christ out of Christmas.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X
X is an abbreviation for Christ, as in Xmas (Christmas), X(t)ian
(Christian), and Xianity (Christianity), due to its Greek name.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xmas
The word "Christ" and its compounds, including "Christmas", have been
abbreviated for at least the past 1,000 years, long before the modern
"Xmas" was commonly used. "Christ" was often written as "XP" or "Xt";
there are references in the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle as far back as 1021
AD. This X and P arose as the uppercase forms of the Greek letters =CF=87
and =CF=81), used in ancient abbreviations for =CE=A7=CF=81=CE=B9=CF=83=CF=
=84=CE=BF=CF=82 (Greek for
"Christ") (see Labarum), and are still widely seen in many Eastern
Orthodox icons depicting Jesus Christ.
So, X MEANS Christ. It has meant that for 1000 years or more!!!
So my message to Christians is know about your own religion before
Criticizing others.
.


User: "John Baker"

Title: Re: Christians Don't Understand Wicca? 12 Jun 2006 03:28:15 AM
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 01:57:46 GMT, "DAVID J STEWART"
<freedom@yahoo.com> wrote:

Christians Don't Understand Wicca?

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Wicca%20&%20Witchcraft/christians_don't_understand_wicca.htm

by David J. Stewart

<much typical fundamentalist Christian bigotry and ignorance snipped>
You've just proven the Wiccans absolutely correct, and the sad thing
is you're too damned stupid to see it.
.

User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Christians Don't Understand Wicca? 17 Jun 2006 10:56:48 PM
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 01:57:46 GMT, "DAVID J STEWART" <freedom@yahoo.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

Christians Don't Understand Wicca?

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Wicca%20&%20Witchcraft/christians_don't_understand_wicca.htm

by David J. Stewart




I have received several e-mails lately from pagans and Wiccans accusing me
of ignorance about Wicca. They tell me to go to websites such as
www.witchvox.com to educate myself. Well, I have been to witchvox and I
have studies their beliefs. One of the biggest criticisms I receive from
the Wicca witches is that they don't believe in Satan and that I'm totally
out of the ballpark to even associate them with Satan. The pagan witches
teach that Christians created the devil, and even the term "pagan." Wiccans
blame Christians for creating all the distortions about what Wicca is really
all about. For a Biblical overview of what Wicca is truly about, please
read Wicca (neo-paganism). According to Wiccans, the devil is only a
boogeyman created by Christians to scare the world. Wicca teaches that
Lucifer is the true god, the god of light and goodness.

May I say, Wicca is of the devil. Wicca witchcraft is Satanic to the
core, straight out of the pits of hell. Just because Wicca witches want to
discredit the Bible and eliminate the clear teachings of Scripture doesn't
mean that it is so.

***** oh drooling ignoramous.
[]
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
.
User: "Anon"

Title: Re: Christians Don't Understand Wicca? 17 Jun 2006 11:20:56 PM
stoney wrote:

On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 01:57:46 GMT, "DAVID J STEWART" <freedom@yahoo.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

Christians Don't Understand Wicca?

Christians Don't WANT TO Understand Wicca!
Ex 22:18 Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.
What Christians understand is that Wicca are from Satan!
Satan is the enemy of God and Man, and witches are his servants
De 18:10 There shall not be found among you any one that maketh
his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth
divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch,
11 Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a
wizard, or a necromancer.
12 For all that do these things are an abomination unto the
LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth
drive them out from before thee.
Wicca are an abomination to God, /and/ to Christians
.
User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: Christians Don't Understand Wicca? 18 Jun 2006 05:14:12 AM
"Anon" <anon@anon.net> wrote in message
news:1299l5aav7d1hde@corp.supernews.com...

stoney wrote:

On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 01:57:46 GMT, "DAVID J STEWART" <freedom@yahoo.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

Christians Don't Understand Wicca?


Christians Don't WANT TO Understand Wicca!

Of course not. It's so much better to wallow in ignorance, isn't it.


Ex 22:18 Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.

If you use the King James version - All other versions say "poisoner".

What Christians understand is that Wicca are from Satan!

Thanks for proving that you don't know ***** about Wicca (or much else, I'm
assuming)


Satan is the enemy of God and Man, and witches are his servants

More *****, I see. Is that all you know? How sad for you.
<snippage of BS bible verses>

Wicca are an abomination to God, /and/ to Christians

Yeah, yeah, yeah. What are you going to do about it?
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Atheist ***** Extraordinaire
#1557
.

User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Christians Don't Understand Wicca? 21 Jun 2006 08:01:38 AM
On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 21:20:56 -0700, Anon <anon@anon.net> wrote in
alt.atheism

stoney wrote:

On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 01:57:46 GMT, "DAVID J STEWART" <freedom@yahoo.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

Christians Don't Understand Wicca?


Christians Don't WANT TO Understand Wicca!

Or anything else. Stupid bronze age ignoramouses.
[]
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
.

User: "Gospel Bretts"

Title: Re: Christians Don't Understand Wicca? 17 Jun 2006 11:35:58 PM
On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 21:20:56 -0700, Anon <anon@anon.net> wrote:

stoney wrote:

On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 01:57:46 GMT, "DAVID J STEWART" <freedom@yahoo.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

Christians Don't Understand Wicca?


Christians Don't WANT TO Understand Wicca!



Ex 22:18 Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.



What Christians understand is that Wicca are from Satan!

Satan is the enemy of God and Man, and witches are his servants


De 18:10 There shall not be found among you any one that maketh
his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth
divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch,
11 Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a
wizard, or a necromancer.
12 For all that do these things are an abomination unto the
LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth
drive them out from before thee.

Yes, Anon, I agree cuz I'm an idiot fundie like you. Hey, you follow
all the scriptures from Exodus and Deuteronomy, dontcha? I mean, we as
fundamentalist God-fearing Christians can't just pick and choose which
ones to believe and follow and which ones to ignore, right? ... right?
*****.
-----
For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that
whosoever would believe in Him would believe just about anything.
.

User: "John Baker"

Title: Re: Christians Don't Understand Wicca? 18 Jun 2006 04:28:26 AM
On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 21:20:56 -0700, Anon <anon@anon.net> wrote:

stoney wrote:

On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 01:57:46 GMT, "DAVID J STEWART" <freedom@yahoo.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

Christians Don't Understand Wicca?


Christians Don't WANT TO Understand Wicca!

Christians don't WANT to understand too much of anything. If they
attempted to understand something, their brains might actually start
to function, and if that happened, who knows? They might no longer be
Christians.




Ex 22:18 Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.



What Christians understand is that Wicca are from Satan!

Satan is the enemy of God and Man, and witches are his servants


De 18:10 There shall not be found among you any one that maketh
his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth
divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch,
11 Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a
wizard, or a necromancer.
12 For all that do these things are an abomination unto the
LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth
drive them out from before thee.

Wicca are an abomination to God, /and/ to Christians

Wicca is a modern variation of druidism, which is far older than
Christianity or your idiotic ideas of Satan.


.




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