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"SpongeBob is Gay" |
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20 Jan 2005 10:30:02 PM |
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Christians issue gay warning on SpongeBob |
Christians issue gay warning on SpongeBob video
Conservative groups criticize maker's 'tolerance pledge'
LOS ANGELES, California (Reuters) -- Conservative Christian groups
accuse the makers of a video starring SpongeBob SquarePants, Barney
and a host of other cartoon characters of promoting homosexuality to
children.
The wacky square yellow SpongeBob is one of the stars of a music video
due to be sent to 61,000 U.S. schools in March. The makers -- the
nonprofit We Are Family Foundation -- say the video is designed to
encourage tolerance and diversity.
But at least two Christian activist groups say the innocent cartoon
characters are being exploited to promote the acceptance of
homosexuality.
"A short step beneath the surface reveals that one of the differences
being celebrated is homosexuality," wrote Ed Vitagliano in an article
for the American Family Association.
The video is a remake of the 1979 hit song "We Are Family" using the
voices and images of SpongeBob, Barney, Winnie the Pooh, Bob the
Builder, the Rugrats and other TV cartoon characters. It was made by a
foundation set up by songwriter Nile Rodgers after the terrorist
attacks of September 11, 2001, in an effort to promote healing.
Christian groups however have taken exception to the tolerance pledge
on the foundation's Web site, which asks people to respect the sexual
identity of others along with their abilities, beliefs, culture and
race.
"Their inclusion of the reference to 'sexual identity" within their
'tolerance pledge' is not only unnecessary, but it crosses a moral
line," James Dobson, founder of Focus on the Family, said in a
statement released Thursday.
Rodgers said he was astounded by the attack.
"That is so myopic and harsh," he told Reuters. "You have really got
to look hard to find anything in this that is offensive to anyone. The
last thing I am going to do is taint these characters."
Dobson was quoted by the New York Times on Thursday as having singled
out the wildly popular SpongeBob during remarks about the video at
dinner this week in Washington, D.C.
SpongeBob, who lives in a pineapple under the sea, was "outed" by the
U.S. media in 2002 after reports that the TV show and its merchandise
are popular with gays. His creator, Stephen Hillenburg, said at the
time that though SpongeBob was an oddball, he thought of all the
characters in the show as asexual.
It is not the first time that children's TV favorites have come under
the critical spotlight of the Christian right. In 1999, the Rev. Jerry
Falwell described Tinky Winky, the purse-toting purple Teletubbie, as
a gay role model.
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| User: "Stevie" |
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21 Jan 2005 04:03:26 AM |
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"SpongeBob is Gay" <spongebob@is.gay> wrote in message
news:WKN4Z36S38372.9752662037@si93kru1.poster...
Christians issue gay warning on SpongeBob video
Conservative groups criticize maker's 'tolerance pledge'
LOS ANGELES, California (Reuters) -- Conservative Christian groups
accuse the makers of a video starring SpongeBob SquarePants, Barney
and a host of other cartoon characters of promoting homosexuality to
children.
C'mon now.... Saying Spongebob is gay is like saying Bugs Bunny is gay.
Now we ALL knew Tinky Winky was queer from the start. In fact, my
3-year-old's gaydar went off almost immediately. He woke me up one night
and whispered, "Daddy... I fink Tinky Winky is a fag." Then he went back to
bed.
My son is 8 now and I trust his perceptiveness. Trust me (and him)...
Spongebob is not gay, nor is Patrick. Squidward? We're not sure about him,
but Sandy IS a lesbo, that we're sure of.
Steve
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| User: "Claytibardfarst" |
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21 Jan 2005 12:53:54 AM |
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"SpongeBob is Gay" <spongebob@is.gay> wrote in message
news:WKN4Z36S38372.9752662037@si93kru1.poster...
Christians issue gay warning on SpongeBob video
Conservative groups criticize maker's 'tolerance pledge'
LOS ANGELES, California (Reuters) -- Conservative Christian groups
accuse the makers of a video starring SpongeBob SquarePants, Barney
and a host of other cartoon characters of promoting homosexuality to
children.
http://www.tabletnewspaper.com/vol2iss_19/lit/comiccavalcade.htm
Kweers in Comics
by Justin L. Haines
For a long time, queers had no representation in mainstream comics only
allusions and allegories.
Actually in the 1954, Batman was outted as the first queer in comics, at
least from the perspective of Dr. Fredric Wertham. The elder psychiatrist
launched a campaign against comics that in true McCarthy style ended up in
congressional hearings. These hearings nearly destroyed the comic industry
as sales plummeted. The few publishers that survived the attacks were forced
into self-regulation through the adoption of the Comic Code Authority
(comics to this day still bear the code's seal of approval). Most of
Wertham's attacks focused on the fact that young people would emulate the
crimes they saw being committed in the comics.
In Wertham's book Seduction of the Innocent he made a special attack on
Batman. Wertham devoted four pages to pointing out that Batman and Robin
were gay and this would influence other young boys to take the same path to
damnation. "They live in sumptuous quarters, with beautiful flowers in large
vases, and have a butler. It is like a wish dream of two homosexuals living
together. The Batman type of story may stimulate children to homosexual
fantasies." Wertham's claims were based on his experience working with
queers at his clinic who sometimes fantasized switching places with Batman
and his all male household. Please, most queers would have imagined a cute
houseboy not some old troll butler like Alfred!
In the next decade, Batman's writers, artists, and publisher would try and
prove Batman's heterosexuality. The most obvious responses was to create new
female Bat characters to complete the family set. There was a Batwoman, a
blond Batgirl, and the round out the family, a Bat-dog! There was no
mistaking Batwoman was in fact a woman since instead of a utility belt she
carried a Bat-purse filled with useful crime fighting devices like lipstick
cases filled with tear gas and a compact filled with sneezing powder.
Storylines were not unlike situational comedies with the most memorable
being the marriage of Batman and Batwoman, a scenario which turned out to be
a dream that Robin had. Any shred of mistaken queerness was banished for
another 15-20 years.
In the 1980's, queers still hadn't made it out of the closet, but we had the
next best thing, the X-men. While none of the X-men actually queer but they
mutants as a whole acted as a metaphor for queers. Let's go through the
laundry list of mutant queer/connections:
1. Mutants were stigmatized, hated, and feared by the general populace just
for being born different
2. They developed the "powers" at puberty when they were forced to accept
their status as mutants
3. Mutants were safest amongst their own kind and often sought out such
living arrangements like at Professor X's mansion or in the "underground
scene" of New York's Morlock separatists.
4. Mutants suffer from the Legacy Virus, a deadly virus that targets mutants
specifically and slowly causes them to have skin disfigurement (like KS
lesions) and to waste away (not unlike AIDS)
5. It was important for many storylines that the mutants keep their
identities and true natures a secret in the mutant closet
6. The occasionally were the targets for mutant bashing and Professor X was
once beaten so badly he had to be hospitalized after an attack by some kids
that he was teaching at the community college.
The first truly queer mutant came out in the early 1990's when Northstar of
Alpha Flight burst out of the closet. Northstar has maintained his queerness
to this day as he just appeared in the current X-men titles and joked about
it with his uptight and homophobic teammate from Brooklyn.
Queers are almost to the point of being normalized in mainstream comics. In
the latest stack of 20 or so comic titles I just brought home, five of the
titles had primary or supporting queer characters. Wonder Woman's highly
praised new artist/writer Phil Himenez is openly gay and is noted as having
brought new life to the 60 year old heroine in articles appearing in the
Washington Post and New York Times. In her latest issue, Wonder Woman was
doing some volunteering for AIDS work with her ex-managers queer brother.
Green Arrow, whose comic is a number one seller consistently, live with an
older queer benefactor who pulled his homeless ***** of the street. There have
even been queer lead characters in Young Heroes in Love, Starman, Top Ten,
Alpha Flight, and Legion of Super Heroes.
The best queer couple, who even won a GLAAD award for positive
representation of queers was Apollo and Midnighter from DC/Wildstorm's the
Authority. The Authority is a team not unlike the Justice League with Apollo
being modeled after Superman and Midnighter being modeled after Batman. They
kick major ***** and one storyline had Midnighter exacting some revenge on a
super-baddie who beat up his boyfriend. Midnighter whipped out a device that
looked like a bazooka crossed with a ***** with the implied intention of
blasting the bad-guy's ***** to kingdom come.
We have come a long way since the 1950's closet Batman. Comic as with most
mediums mirror the times. As queers are regular fixtures on Must-See TV,
queers are filling our comic book imaginations and are more than victims.
While we will never see Batman and Superman waking up in bed together, we
have our own Apollo and Midnighter.
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| User: "chillled" |
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| Title: Re: Christians issue gay warning on SpongeBob |
21 Jan 2005 02:43:20 AM |
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Claytibardfarst wrote:
http://www.tabletnewspaper.com/vol2iss_19/lit/comiccavalcade.htm
Kweers in Comics
by Justin L. Haines
For a long time, queers had no representation in mainstream comics only
allusions and allegories.
Actually in the 1954, Batman was outted as the first queer in comics, at
least from the perspective of Dr. Fredric Wertham. The elder psychiatrist
launched a campaign against comics that in true McCarthy style ended up in
congressional hearings. These hearings nearly destroyed the comic industry
as sales plummeted. The few publishers that survived the attacks were forced
into self-regulation through the adoption of the Comic Code Authority
(comics to this day still bear the code's seal of approval). Most of
Wertham's attacks focused on the fact that young people would emulate the
crimes they saw being committed in the comics.
In Wertham's book Seduction of the Innocent he made a special attack on
Batman. Wertham devoted four pages to pointing out that Batman and Robin
were gay and this would influence other young boys to take the same path to
damnation. "They live in sumptuous quarters, with beautiful flowers in large
vases, and have a butler. It is like a wish dream of two homosexuals living
together. The Batman type of story may stimulate children to homosexual
fantasies." Wertham's claims were based on his experience working with
queers at his clinic who sometimes fantasized switching places with Batman
and his all male household. Please, most queers would have imagined a cute
houseboy not some old troll butler like Alfred!
In the next decade, Batman's writers, artists, and publisher would try and
prove Batman's heterosexuality. The most obvious responses was to create new
female Bat characters to complete the family set. There was a Batwoman, a
blond Batgirl, and the round out the family, a Bat-dog! There was no
mistaking Batwoman was in fact a woman since instead of a utility belt she
carried a Bat-purse filled with useful crime fighting devices like lipstick
cases filled with tear gas and a compact filled with sneezing powder.
Storylines were not unlike situational comedies with the most memorable
being the marriage of Batman and Batwoman, a scenario which turned out to be
a dream that Robin had. Any shred of mistaken queerness was banished for
another 15-20 years.
What about Dr. Quest and Race Bannen? I think they had something going
on. Where was Jonny's mother? As far as we know, Jonny and Hadji were
rent boys.
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| User: "JPMorg" |
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21 Jan 2005 09:37:06 AM |
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"SpongeBob is Gay" <spongebob@is.gay> wrote in message
news:WKN4Z36S38372.9752662037@si93kru1.poster...
Christians issue gay warning on SpongeBob video
Conservative groups criticize maker's 'tolerance pledge'
LOS ANGELES, California (Reuters) -- Conservative Christian groups
accuse the makers of a video starring SpongeBob SquarePants, Barney
and a host of other cartoon characters of promoting homosexuality to
children.
The wacky square yellow SpongeBob is one of the stars of a music video
due to be sent to 61,000 U.S. schools in March. The makers -- the
nonprofit We Are Family Foundation -- say the video is designed to
encourage tolerance and diversity.
But at least two Christian activist groups say the innocent cartoon
characters are being exploited to promote the acceptance of
homosexuality.
"A short step beneath the surface reveals that one of the differences
being celebrated is homosexuality," wrote Ed Vitagliano in an article
for the American Family Association.
The video is a remake of the 1979 hit song "We Are Family" using the
voices and images of SpongeBob, Barney, Winnie the Pooh, Bob the
Builder, the Rugrats and other TV cartoon characters. It was made by a
foundation set up by songwriter Nile Rodgers after the terrorist
attacks of September 11, 2001, in an effort to promote healing.
Christian groups however have taken exception to the tolerance pledge
on the foundation's Web site, which asks people to respect the sexual
identity of others along with their abilities, beliefs, culture and
race.
"Their inclusion of the reference to 'sexual identity" within their
'tolerance pledge' is not only unnecessary, but it crosses a moral
line," James Dobson, founder of Focus on the Family, said in a
statement released Thursday.
Rodgers said he was astounded by the attack.
"That is so myopic and harsh," he told Reuters. "You have really got
to look hard to find anything in this that is offensive to anyone. The
last thing I am going to do is taint these characters."
Dobson was quoted by the New York Times on Thursday as having singled
out the wildly popular SpongeBob during remarks about the video at
dinner this week in Washington, D.C.
SpongeBob, who lives in a pineapple under the sea, was "outed" by the
U.S. media in 2002 after reports that the TV show and its merchandise
are popular with gays. His creator, Stephen Hillenburg, said at the
time that though SpongeBob was an oddball, he thought of all the
characters in the show as asexual.
It is not the first time that children's TV favorites have come under
the critical spotlight of the Christian right. In 1999, the Rev. Jerry
Falwell described Tinky Winky, the purse-toting purple Teletubbie, as
a gay role model.
Good grief.
A few weeks ago Sam Seder (sp?) from Majority Report (AAR) phoned a similar
organization after hearing this and proposed that "Rudolph the Red Nosed
Reindeer" promotes a gay agenda. Hey! The man he was speaking to agreed.
Cheers,
Morgs
MPGS
http://home.earthlink.net/~nomo1521/
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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21 Jan 2005 04:51:52 AM |
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"SpongeBob is Gay" <spongebob@is.gay> wrote in message
news:WKN4Z36S38372.9752662037@si93kru1.poster...
Christians issue gay warning on SpongeBob video
Conservative groups criticize maker's 'tolerance pledge'
LOS ANGELES, California (Reuters) -- Conservative Christian groups
accuse the makers of a video starring SpongeBob SquarePants, Barney
and a host of other cartoon characters of promoting homosexuality to
children.
I'm sorry, but people who feel threatened by cartoon characters have serious
mental problems IMHO :P
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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21 Jan 2005 04:57:18 AM |
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On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 05:51:52 -0500 in alt.atheism, Robibnikoff
("Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com>) said, directing the reply
to alt.atheism
"SpongeBob is Gay" <spongebob@is.gay> wrote in message
news:WKN4Z36S38372.9752662037@si93kru1.poster...
Christians issue gay warning on SpongeBob video
Conservative groups criticize maker's 'tolerance pledge'
LOS ANGELES, California (Reuters) -- Conservative Christian groups
accuse the makers of a video starring SpongeBob SquarePants, Barney
and a host of other cartoon characters of promoting homosexuality to
children.
I'm sorry, but people who feel threatened by cartoon characters have serious
mental problems IMHO :P
Oh I dunno. The powerpuff girls can be quite scary.....
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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21 Jan 2005 06:31:23 AM |
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"Therion Ware" <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in message
news:0vn1v097v3pe7jupj2kvaa9vskrmr828e5@4ax.com...
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 05:51:52 -0500 in alt.atheism, Robibnikoff
("Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com>) said, directing the reply
to alt.atheism
"SpongeBob is Gay" <spongebob@is.gay> wrote in message
news:WKN4Z36S38372.9752662037@si93kru1.poster...
Christians issue gay warning on SpongeBob video
Conservative groups criticize maker's 'tolerance pledge'
LOS ANGELES, California (Reuters) -- Conservative Christian groups
accuse the makers of a video starring SpongeBob SquarePants, Barney
and a host of other cartoon characters of promoting homosexuality to
children.
I'm sorry, but people who feel threatened by cartoon characters have
serious
mental problems IMHO :P
Oh I dunno. The powerpuff girls can be quite scary.....
LOL! The witchling's favorite :)
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
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| User: "RainLover" |
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21 Jan 2005 10:29:45 AM |
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On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 10:57:18 +0000, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote:
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 05:51:52 -0500 in alt.atheism, Robibnikoff
("Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com>) said, directing the reply
to alt.atheism
"SpongeBob is Gay" <spongebob@is.gay> wrote in message
news:WKN4Z36S38372.9752662037@si93kru1.poster...
Christians issue gay warning on SpongeBob video
Conservative groups criticize maker's 'tolerance pledge'
LOS ANGELES, California (Reuters) -- Conservative Christian groups
accuse the makers of a video starring SpongeBob SquarePants, Barney
and a host of other cartoon characters of promoting homosexuality to
children.
I'm sorry, but people who feel threatened by cartoon characters have serious
mental problems IMHO :P
Oh I dunno. The powerpuff girls can be quite scary.....
OH!! Don't get me started on the Powerpuff girls! My big issue HERE
is why exactly was a lonely old single man creating three little
doe-eyed little girls down in his basement in the first place????
And the test tube of Extasy that "accidentally" fell into the mixture
of little-girl-juice? Everyone knows that Extasy turns women into
sexual animals, but why was he making up such a large batch? Just to
pay his membership dues in the AMA? I think NOT....
Oh, HE knew what he was doing when he mixed in "chemical X"... oh
yeah... HE KNEW.
James, Seattle
PS: Powerpuff girls is hilarious... it works on a child's level and
an adult level... very fun and worth seeing, despite the
pedophilia-hinting opening credits. heheh
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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21 Jan 2005 10:46:11 AM |
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"RainLover" <SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> wrote in message
news:uua2v051ij5bbuv2ki0q8th2ltk399k26s@4ax.com...
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 10:57:18 +0000, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote:
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 05:51:52 -0500 in alt.atheism, Robibnikoff
("Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com>) said, directing the reply
to alt.atheism
"SpongeBob is Gay" <spongebob@is.gay> wrote in message
news:WKN4Z36S38372.9752662037@si93kru1.poster...
Christians issue gay warning on SpongeBob video
Conservative groups criticize maker's 'tolerance pledge'
LOS ANGELES, California (Reuters) -- Conservative Christian groups
accuse the makers of a video starring SpongeBob SquarePants, Barney
and a host of other cartoon characters of promoting homosexuality to
children.
I'm sorry, but people who feel threatened by cartoon characters have
serious
mental problems IMHO :P
Oh I dunno. The powerpuff girls can be quite scary.....
OH!! Don't get me started on the Powerpuff girls! My big issue HERE
is why exactly was a lonely old single man creating three little
doe-eyed little girls down in his basement in the first place????
And the test tube of Extasy that "accidentally" fell into the mixture
of little-girl-juice? Everyone knows that Extasy turns women into
sexual animals, but why was he making up such a large batch? Just to
pay his membership dues in the AMA? I think NOT....
Oh, HE knew what he was doing when he mixed in "chemical X"... oh
yeah... HE KNEW.
Ah hah! But, the professor wasn't the one that "accidently" dumped in the
Chemical X. It was.............Mojo Jojo!
James, Seattle
PS: Powerpuff girls is hilarious... it works on a child's level and
an adult level... very fun and worth seeing, despite the
pedophilia-hinting opening credits. heheh
Oh my :)
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
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21 Jan 2005 05:39:15 AM |
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"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"SpongeBob is Gay" <spongebob@is.gay> wrote in message
LOS ANGELES, California (Reuters) -- Conservative Christian groups
accuse the makers of a video starring SpongeBob SquarePants, Barney
and a host of other cartoon characters of promoting homosexuality to
children.
I'm sorry, but people who feel threatened by cartoon characters have serious
mental problems IMHO :P
Not that they don't have problems, but are you claiming that you would
be accepting of a cartoon character who, say, preached about the evils
of atheism?
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| User: "stoney" |
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23 Jan 2005 02:45:18 PM |
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On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 11:39:15 GMT, nobody <nobody@here.com> wrote:
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"SpongeBob is Gay" <spongebob@is.gay> wrote in message
LOS ANGELES, California (Reuters) -- Conservative Christian groups
accuse the makers of a video starring SpongeBob SquarePants, Barney
and a host of other cartoon characters of promoting homosexuality to
children.
I'm sorry, but people who feel threatened by cartoon characters have serious
mental problems IMHO :P
Not that they don't have problems, but are you claiming that you would
be accepting of a cartoon character who, say, preached about the evils
of atheism?
What 'evils of atheism(tm)' would those be, oh drooler?
Free clue, oh lying mindless one, a lack of theism isn't a motivator
for anything.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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21 Jan 2005 05:58:39 AM |
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nobody <nobody@here.com> wrote:
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"SpongeBob is Gay" <spongebob@is.gay> wrote in message
LOS ANGELES, California (Reuters) -- Conservative Christian groups
accuse the makers of a video starring SpongeBob SquarePants, Barney
and a host of other cartoon characters of promoting homosexuality to
children.
I'm sorry, but people who feel threatened by cartoon characters have
serious mental problems IMHO :P
Not that they don't have problems, but are you claiming that you would
be accepting of a cartoon character who, say, preached about the evils
of atheism?
Apparenly you've never seen "Davey & Goliath". There are a number of such
cartoons.
--
"Only Buddhism is compatible with science. It covers the smallest
particles to the largest creations of the cosmos. It is the only
religion capable of scientific truth."
Albert Einstein
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Christians issue gay warning on SpongeBob |
23 Jan 2005 02:45:45 PM |
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On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 11:58:39 GMT, "Andrealphus"
<OHNOLETSGO@NARNIA.WHOCARES_2> wrote:
nobody <nobody@here.com> wrote:
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"SpongeBob is Gay" <spongebob@is.gay> wrote in message
LOS ANGELES, California (Reuters) -- Conservative Christian groups
accuse the makers of a video starring SpongeBob SquarePants, Barney
and a host of other cartoon characters of promoting homosexuality to
children.
I'm sorry, but people who feel threatened by cartoon characters have
serious mental problems IMHO :P
Not that they don't have problems, but are you claiming that you would
be accepting of a cartoon character who, say, preached about the evils
of atheism?
Apparenly you've never seen "Davey & Goliath". There are a number of such
cartoons.
Is that still around?
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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| Title: Re: Christians issue gay warning on SpongeBob |
23 Jan 2005 03:35:40 PM |
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stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 11:58:39 GMT, "Andrealphus"
<OHNOLETSGO@NARNIA.WHOCARES_2> wrote:
nobody <nobody@here.com> wrote:
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"SpongeBob is Gay" <spongebob@is.gay> wrote in message
LOS ANGELES, California (Reuters) -- Conservative Christian groups
accuse the makers of a video starring SpongeBob SquarePants,
Barney and a host of other cartoon characters of promoting
homosexuality to children.
I'm sorry, but people who feel threatened by cartoon characters
have serious mental problems IMHO :P
Not that they don't have problems, but are you claiming that you
would be accepting of a cartoon character who, say, preached about
the evils of atheism?
Apparenly you've never seen "Davey & Goliath". There are a number
of such cartoons.
Is that still around?
Re-runs I believe.
--
"Only Buddhism is compatible with science. It covers the smallest
particles to the largest creations of the cosmos. It is the only
religion capable of scientific truth."
Albert Einstein
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Christians issue gay warning on SpongeBob |
24 Jan 2005 07:31:46 PM |
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On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 21:35:40 GMT, "Andrealphus"
<OHNOLETSGO@NARNIA.WHOCARES_3> wrote:
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 11:58:39 GMT, "Andrealphus"
<OHNOLETSGO@NARNIA.WHOCARES_2> wrote:
nobody <nobody@here.com> wrote:
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"SpongeBob is Gay" <spongebob@is.gay> wrote in message
LOS ANGELES, California (Reuters) -- Conservative Christian groups
accuse the makers of a video starring SpongeBob SquarePants,
Barney and a host of other cartoon characters of promoting
homosexuality to children.
I'm sorry, but people who feel threatened by cartoon characters
have serious mental problems IMHO :P
Not that they don't have problems, but are you claiming that you
would be accepting of a cartoon character who, say, preached about
the evils of atheism?
Apparenly you've never seen "Davey & Goliath". There are a number
of such cartoons.
Is that still around?
Re-runs I believe.
Yes, it would be re-runs. I'm surprised anyone would bother to run
them.
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"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
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On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 21:35:40 GMT, "Andrealphus"
<OHNOLETSGO@NARNIA.WHOCARES_3> wrote:
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 11:58:39 GMT, "Andrealphus"
<OHNOLETSGO@NARNIA.WHOCARES_2> wrote:
nobody <nobody@here.com> wrote:
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"SpongeBob is Gay" <spongebob@is.gay> wrote in message
LOS ANGELES, California (Reuters) -- Conservative Christian groups
accuse the makers of a video starring SpongeBob SquarePants,
Barney and a host of other cartoon characters of promoting
homosexuality to children.
I'm sorry, but people who feel threatened by cartoon characters
have serious mental problems IMHO :P
Not that they don't have problems, but are you claiming that you
would be accepting of a cartoon character who, say, preached about
the evils of atheism?
Apparenly you've never seen "Davey & Goliath". There are a number
of such cartoons.
Is that still around?
Re-runs I believe.
Yes, it would be re-runs. I'm surprised anyone would bother to run
them.
Ever see the Mountain Dew commercial which uses the Davy & Goliath
characters? Hilarious :)
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25 Jan 2005 06:02:12 PM |
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On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 21:20:13 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
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On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 21:35:40 GMT, "Andrealphus"
<OHNOLETSGO@NARNIA.WHOCARES_3> wrote:
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 11:58:39 GMT, "Andrealphus"
<OHNOLETSGO@NARNIA.WHOCARES_2> wrote:
nobody <nobody@here.com> wrote:
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"SpongeBob is Gay" <spongebob@is.gay> wrote in message
LOS ANGELES, California (Reuters) -- Conservative Christian groups
accuse the makers of a video starring SpongeBob SquarePants,
Barney and a host of other cartoon characters of promoting
homosexuality to children.
I'm sorry, but people who feel threatened by cartoon characters
have serious mental problems IMHO :P
Not that they don't have problems, but are you claiming that you
would be accepting of a cartoon character who, say, preached about
the evils of atheism?
Apparenly you've never seen "Davey & Goliath". There are a number
of such cartoons.
Is that still around?
Re-runs I believe.
Yes, it would be re-runs. I'm surprised anyone would bother to run
them.
Ever see the Mountain Dew commercial which uses the Davy & Goliath
characters? Hilarious :)
No, I haven't. I'm not much for the idiot box. Generally insipid
programming between even worse adverts.
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24 Jan 2005 08:33:08 PM |
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Robibnikoff <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
news:pa8bv0t16vb5e9l1v3910k1et54hl3un25@4ax.com...
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 21:35:40 GMT, "Andrealphus"
<OHNOLETSGO@NARNIA.WHOCARES_3> wrote:
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 11:58:39 GMT, "Andrealphus"
<OHNOLETSGO@NARNIA.WHOCARES_2> wrote:
nobody <nobody@here.com> wrote:
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"SpongeBob is Gay" <spongebob@is.gay> wrote in message
LOS ANGELES, California (Reuters) -- Conservative Christian
groups accuse the makers of a video starring SpongeBob
SquarePants, Barney and a host of other cartoon characters of
promoting homosexuality to children.
I'm sorry, but people who feel threatened by cartoon characters
have serious mental problems IMHO :P
Not that they don't have problems, but are you claiming that you
would be accepting of a cartoon character who, say, preached
about the evils of atheism?
Apparenly you've never seen "Davey & Goliath". There are a
number of such cartoons.
Is that still around?
Re-runs I believe.
Yes, it would be re-runs. I'm surprised anyone would bother to run
them.
Ever see the Mountain Dew commercial which uses the Davy & Goliath
characters? Hilarious :)
Oh yeah, I did see that once or twice, it was funny!
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particles to the largest creations of the cosmos. It is the only
religion capable of scientific truth."
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24 Jan 2005 09:38:31 PM |
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"Andrealphus" <OHNOLETSGO@NARNIA.WHOCARES_3> wrote in message
news:EdiJd.4976$r27.2555@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
Robibnikoff <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
news:pa8bv0t16vb5e9l1v3910k1et54hl3un25@4ax.com...
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 21:35:40 GMT, "Andrealphus"
<OHNOLETSGO@NARNIA.WHOCARES_3> wrote:
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 11:58:39 GMT, "Andrealphus"
<OHNOLETSGO@NARNIA.WHOCARES_2> wrote:
nobody <nobody@here.com> wrote:
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"SpongeBob is Gay" <spongebob@is.gay> wrote in message
LOS ANGELES, California (Reuters) -- Conservative Christian
groups accuse the makers of a video starring SpongeBob
SquarePants, Barney and a host of other cartoon characters of
promoting homosexuality to children.
I'm sorry, but people who feel threatened by cartoon characters
have serious mental problems IMHO :P
Not that they don't have problems, but are you claiming that you
would be accepting of a cartoon character who, say, preached
about the evils of atheism?
Apparenly you've never seen "Davey & Goliath". There are a
number of such cartoons.
Is that still around?
Re-runs I believe.
Yes, it would be re-runs. I'm surprised anyone would bother to run
them.
Ever see the Mountain Dew commercial which uses the Davy & Goliath
characters? Hilarious :)
Oh yeah, I did see that once or twice, it was funny!
"Tommy, we got hosed". D'oh! :)
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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24 Jan 2005 07:50:17 PM |
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stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 21:35:40 GMT, "Andrealphus"
<OHNOLETSGO@NARNIA.WHOCARES_3> wrote:
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 11:58:39 GMT, "Andrealphus"
<OHNOLETSGO@NARNIA.WHOCARES_2> wrote:
nobody <nobody@here.com> wrote:
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"SpongeBob is Gay" <spongebob@is.gay> wrote in message
LOS ANGELES, California (Reuters) -- Conservative Christian
groups accuse the makers of a video starring SpongeBob
SquarePants, Barney and a host of other cartoon characters of
promoting homosexuality to children.
I'm sorry, but people who feel threatened by cartoon characters
have serious mental problems IMHO :P
Not that they don't have problems, but are you claiming that you
would be accepting of a cartoon character who, say, preached about
the evils of atheism?
Apparenly you've never seen "Davey & Goliath". There are a number
of such cartoons.
Is that still around?
Re-runs I believe.
Yes, it would be re-runs. I'm surprised anyone would bother to run
them.
Well, I seen it about six weeks or so back, it was on like 3:30 AM, on some
obscure Christian station or network, or something on my Dish Network.
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"Only Buddhism is compatible with science. It covers the smallest
particles to the largest creations of the cosmos. It is the only
religion capable of scientific truth."
Albert Einstein
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| User: "stoney" |
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23 Jan 2005 02:43:26 PM |
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On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 05:51:52 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"SpongeBob is Gay" <spongebob@is.gay> wrote in message
news:WKN4Z36S38372.9752662037@si93kru1.poster...
Christians issue gay warning on SpongeBob video
Conservative groups criticize maker's 'tolerance pledge'
LOS ANGELES, California (Reuters) -- Conservative Christian groups
accuse the makers of a video starring SpongeBob SquarePants, Barney
and a host of other cartoon characters of promoting homosexuality to
children.
I'm sorry, but people who feel threatened by cartoon characters have serious
mental problems IMHO :P
Fundies are chock full of mental problems.
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Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
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America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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20 Jan 2005 10:39:30 PM |
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"A short step beneath the surface reveals that one of the differences
being celebrated is homosexuality," wrote Ed Vitagliano in an article
for the American Family Association.
Here's a man who can see the inner gay beneath all cartoon surfaces.
How could one possibly parody this?
As for Jerry "The Twink" Falwell... the man has issues.
As if little Johnny is going to be gay because of some subliminal
message he got watching cartoons when he was four. Are these fundies
claiming that the influence of dad, the pastor, and all the guys at the
fish-n-bait shop are out-influenced by one imaginary sponge?
Kermit
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| Title: Re: Christians issue gay warning on SpongeBob |
21 Jan 2005 06:42:10 PM |
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On 20 Jan 2005 20:39:30 -0800, said in
alt.atheism:
As if little Johnny is going to be gay because of some subliminal
message he got watching cartoons when he was four. Are these fundies
claiming that the influence of dad, the pastor, and all the guys at the
fish-n-bait shop are out-influenced by one imaginary sponge?
This is the same mindset that will tell you that the majority of
people in the world believe in the Christian god, but that Christians
are a persecuted minority.
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faculties to prove the statement 'dogshit is not peanut butter' if we
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21 Jan 2005 10:08:09 PM |
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On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 00:42:10 GMT, in alt.politics.homosexuality Al
Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
| On 20 Jan 2005 20:39:30 -0800, said in
| alt.atheism:
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| >As if little Johnny is going to be gay because of some subliminal
| >message he got watching cartoons when he was four. Are these fundies
| >claiming that the influence of dad, the pastor, and all the guys at the
| >fish-n-bait shop are out-influenced by one imaginary sponge?
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| This is the same mindset that will tell you that the majority of
| people in the world believe in the Christian god, but that Christians
| are a persecuted minority.
I wonder if they wear neckbraces to stop their tiny heads from
spinning?
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24 Jan 2005 08:45:58 PM |
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On 20 Jan 2005 20:39:30 -0800, wrote:
"A short step beneath the surface reveals that one of the differences
being celebrated is homosexuality," wrote Ed Vitagliano in an article
for the American Family Association.
Here's a man who can see the inner gay beneath all cartoon surfaces.
How could one possibly parody this?
As for Jerry "The Twink" Falwell... the man has issues.
As if little Johnny is going to be gay because of some subliminal
message he got watching cartoons when he was four. Are these fundies
claiming that the influence of dad, the pastor, and all the guys at the
fish-n-bait shop are out-influenced by one imaginary sponge?
Kermit
I am working in southern Ohio, there is nothing these people can say
that is so stupid, that they cannot attract new followers. I was
alerted by a gentleman on the radio, coming home from work, that the
various universities were still giving "Marital Benefits" to same sex
couples, and this has to stop.
Heh, Heh.
I almost never think about homosexuals, but these people can't stop
thinking about it. What does that tell you?
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26 Jan 2005 06:01:23 PM |
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Eris wrote:
I am working in southern Ohio, there is nothing these people can say
that is so stupid, that they cannot attract new followers. I was
alerted by a gentleman on the radio, coming home from work, that the
various universities were still giving "Marital Benefits" to same sex
couples, and this has to stop.
Just to interject a little, the current battle is over whether the
universities are granting "marital benefits" or "job benefits."
Personally, I hope that it is found that the universities are giving
marital benefits. Then, hundreds of thousands of folks (straight) will
loose coverage under their employer's plans. Naturally, many will marry
to get them back. But marriages based on money considerations? Oh, yes,
that'll be good for the institution...
The more they aim to protect marriage, the worse it gets hurt. And the
beauty of it is that they're doing it themselves, voluntarily.
Say "hello" to higher divorce rates.
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25 Jan 2005 05:57:44 PM |
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On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 21:45:58 -0500, Eris <vithant01@yaya.comcast.net>
wrote:
On 20 Jan 2005 20:39:30 -0800, wrote:
"A short step beneath the surface reveals that one of the differences
being celebrated is homosexuality," wrote Ed Vitagliano in an article
for the American Family Association.
Here's a man who can see the inner gay beneath all cartoon surfaces.
How could one possibly parody this?
As for Jerry "The Twink" Falwell... the man has issues.
As if little Johnny is going to be gay because of some subliminal
message he got watching cartoons when he was four. Are these fundies
claiming that the influence of dad, the pastor, and all the guys at the
fish-n-bait shop are out-influenced by one imaginary sponge?
Kermit
I am working in southern Ohio, there is nothing these people can say
that is so stupid, that they cannot attract new followers. I was
alerted by a gentleman on the radio, coming home from work, that the
various universities were still giving "Marital Benefits" to same sex
couples, and this has to stop.
Heh, Heh.
I almost never think about homosexuals, but these people can't stop
thinking about it. What does that tell you?
They yearn for a big fat ***** up the poop chute.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Christians issue gay warning on SpongeBob |
22 Jan 2005 10:24:20 PM |
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On 20 Jan 2005 20:39:30 -0800, wrote:
"A short step beneath the surface reveals that one of the differences
being celebrated is homosexuality," wrote Ed Vitagliano in an article
for the American Family Association.
Here's a man who can see the inner gay beneath all cartoon surfaces.
How could one possibly parody this?
As for Jerry "The Twink" Falwell... the man has issues.
As if little Johnny is going to be gay because of some subliminal
message he got watching cartoons when he was four. Are these fundies
claiming that the influence of dad, the pastor, and all the guys at the
fish-n-bait shop are out-influenced by one imaginary sponge?
Yes. 'Faith' is so fragile.
Kermit
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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| Title: Re: Christians issue gay warning on SpongeBob |
21 Jan 2005 12:54:17 PM |
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Bob the Builder is gay too???
Well, I always thought his jeans were a little too tight. I was just
hoping my son wouldn't notice and start asking questions.
SpongeBob is Gay wrote:
Christians issue gay warning on SpongeBob video
Conservative groups criticize maker's 'tolerance pledge'
LOS ANGELES, California (Reuters) -- Conservative Christian groups
accuse the makers of a video starring SpongeBob SquarePants, Barney
and a host of other cartoon characters of promoting homosexuality to
children.
The wacky square yellow SpongeBob is one of the stars of a music video
due to be sent to 61,000 U.S. schools in March. The makers -- the
nonprofit We Are Family Foundation -- say the video is designed to
encourage tolerance and diversity.
But at least two Christian activist groups say the innocent cartoon
characters are being exploited to promote the acceptance of
homosexuality.
"A short step beneath the surface reveals that one of the differences
being celebrated is homosexuality," wrote Ed Vitagliano in an article
for the American Family Association.
The video is a remake of the 1979 hit song "We Are Family" using the
voices and images of SpongeBob, Barney, Winnie the Pooh, Bob the
Builder, the Rugrats and other TV cartoon characters. It was made by a
foundation set up by songwriter Nile Rodgers after the terrorist
attacks of September 11, 2001, in an effort to promote healing.
Christian groups however have taken exception to the tolerance pledge
on the foundation's Web site, which asks people to respect the sexual
identity of others along with their abilities, beliefs, culture and
race.
"Their inclusion of the reference to 'sexual identity" within their
'tolerance pledge' is not only unnecessary, but it crosses a moral
line," James Dobson, founder of Focus on the Family, said in a
statement released Thursday.
Rodgers said he was astounded by the attack.
"That is so myopic and harsh," he told Reuters. "You have really got
to look hard to find anything in this that is offensive to anyone. The
last thing I am going to do is taint these characters."
Dobson was quoted by the New York Times on Thursday as having singled
out the wildly popular SpongeBob during remarks about the video at
dinner this week in Washington, D.C.
SpongeBob, who lives in a pineapple under the sea, was "outed" by the
U.S. media in 2002 after reports that the TV show and its merchandise
are popular with gays. His creator, Stephen Hillenburg, said at the
time that though SpongeBob was an oddball, he thought of all the
characters in the show as asexual.
It is not the first time that children's TV favorites have come under
the critical spotlight of the Christian right. In 1999, the Rev. Jerry
Falwell described Tinky Winky, the purse-toting purple Teletubbie, as
a gay role model.
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21 Jan 2005 07:21:42 PM |
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"Joey" <man@the.exits.yow> wrote in message
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Bob the Builder is gay too???
Duh! :)
Well, I always thought his jeans were a little too tight. I was just
hoping my son wouldn't notice and start asking questions.
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