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User: "Law-Abiding American Citizen"
Date: 20 Oct 2006 05:33:18 PM
Object: Churches Back Republicans - I.R.S. Targets A.C.L.U. Lawyers!
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WITH THE MID-TERM elections just eighteen days away and
counting, Judeo-Xian worshippers across the country are
working closely with the RNC, to "Get Out The Vote" for
the mission-critical Tuesday November 7th 2006 election.
Meanwhile, the Republican-controlled I.R.S. is "looking
closely" at unpatriotic Anti-Christian A.C.L.U. lawyers
who complain against Christians involved in this year's
Get Out The Vote Republican Crusades to retain/maintain
control over all three main branches of our beloved U.S.
Federal Government; and this with *MUCH* interest (pun).
Churches large and small, synagogues, mosques, ashrams,
temples, classrooms nationwide are actively encouraging
their flocks to *VOTE* Republican in these upcoming mid-
term elections. Liberals lose another election. Too bad... :-D
Enjoy Life! (and fillet a liberal for lunch, sharply)
Daniel Joseph Min
http://www.2hot2cool.com/11/danieljosephmin/
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User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Churches Back Republicans - I.R.S. Targets A.C.L.U. Lawyers! 20 Oct 2006 06:41:32 PM
On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 22:33:18 +0000, Law-Abiding American Citizen wrote:

WITH THE MID-TERM elections just eighteen days away and
counting,

....the Republican party has resigned itself to losing the House...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"As hip as it is for outsiders to blame New Orleans
for everything bad that happened during and after
Hurricane Katrina, the truth is that the people
who lived here were much more prepared for a big
storm than the federal government that promised
us flood protection." [Jarvis DeBerry]
http://makeashorterlink.com/?V180525DC
"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com
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User: "Jim E"

Title: Re: Churches Back Republicans - I.R.S. Targets A.C.L.U. Lawyers! 22 Oct 2006 03:19:30 PM
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gm

--------------------------------------------------
"As hip as it is for outsiders to blame New Orleans
for everything bad that happened during and after
Hurricane Katrina, the truth is that the people
who lived here were much more prepared for a big
storm than the federal government that promised
us flood protection." [Jarvis DeBerry]

Hence the successful plan that prevented a disaster.
ROFLMAO
Whatalloadashit.
Jim E
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User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Churches Back Republicans - I.R.S. Targets A.C.L.U. Lawyers! 26 Oct 2006 05:32:45 PM
On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 13:19:30 -0700, "Jim E" <YD656359@SEA.edu> wrote in
alt.atheism


"Mark K. Bilbo" <gm



--------------------------------------------------
"As hip as it is for outsiders to blame New Orleans
for everything bad that happened during and after
Hurricane Katrina, the truth is that the people
who lived here were much more prepared for a big
storm than the federal government that promised
us flood protection." [Jarvis DeBerry]



Hence the successful plan that prevented a disaster.

ROFLMAO

Whatalloadashit.

Yes it is. Now clean up your fucking mess!
--
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at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
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User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: Churches Back Republicans - I.R.S. Targets A.C.L.U. Lawyers! 20 Oct 2006 07:01:04 PM
On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 18:41:32 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 22:33:18 +0000, Law-Abiding American Citizen wrote:

WITH THE MID-TERM elections just eighteen days away and
counting,


...the Republican party has resigned itself to losing the House...

And it hasn't given up yet on keeping control of the Senate. "Hasn't
given up" is a far cry from a month ago.
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"I can't activate two neurons simultaneously, and I vote"
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User: "johac"

Title: Re: Churches Back Republicans - I.R.S. Targets A.C.L.U. Lawyers! 21 Oct 2006 02:11:35 AM
In article <qooij21i517lcmoc3b9k1ock2k7jgst7ib@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:

On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 18:41:32 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 22:33:18 +0000, Law-Abiding American Citizen wrote:

WITH THE MID-TERM elections just eighteen days away and
counting,


...the Republican party has resigned itself to losing the House...


And it hasn't given up yet on keeping control of the Senate. "Hasn't
given up" is a far cry from a month ago.

Today I heard them talking about vulnerable seats. Their own. Prepare
for two weeks of vicious ***** slinging, especially if one of those
vulnerable seats is in your state.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Churches Back Republicans - I.R.S. Targets A.C.L.U. Lawyers! 26 Oct 2006 05:29:31 PM
On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 00:11:35 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

In article <qooij21i517lcmoc3b9k1ock2k7jgst7ib@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:

On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 18:41:32 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 22:33:18 +0000, Law-Abiding American Citizen wrote:

WITH THE MID-TERM elections just eighteen days away and
counting,


...the Republican party has resigned itself to losing the House...


And it hasn't given up yet on keeping control of the Senate. "Hasn't
given up" is a far cry from a month ago.


Today I heard them talking about vulnerable seats. Their own. Prepare
for two weeks of vicious ***** slinging, especially if one of those
vulnerable seats is in your state.

Thing is, if the Rethugs had done their jobs they wouldn't have
concerns.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
.
User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: Churches Back Republicans - I.R.S. Targets A.C.L.U. Lawyers! 26 Oct 2006 07:15:53 PM
On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 15:29:31 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

Thing is, if the Rethugs had done their jobs they wouldn't have
concerns.

If they had done their jobs:
a) we wouldn't want to get rid of them
b) they'd wouldn't be politicians.
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
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concern, and intellectual honesty to a degree that the religious mind cannot
begin to understand. And yet it is more than this. Atheism is not an old
religion, it is not a new and coming religion, in fact it is not, and never has
been, a religion at all. The definition of Atheism is magnificent in its
simplicity: Atheism is merely the bed-rock of sanity in a world of madness."
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User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Churches Back Republicans - I.R.S. Targets A.C.L.U. Lawyers! 27 Oct 2006 10:35:58 PM
On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 20:15:53 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote
in alt.atheism

On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 15:29:31 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

Thing is, if the Rethugs had done their jobs they wouldn't have
concerns.


If they had done their jobs:

a) we wouldn't want to get rid of them

Exactly.

b) they'd wouldn't be politicians.

Not necessarily.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
.



User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: Churches Back Republicans - I.R.S. Targets A.C.L.U. Lawyers! 21 Oct 2006 02:37:23 PM
On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 00:11:35 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:

Today I heard them talking about vulnerable seats. Their own. Prepare
for two weeks of vicious ***** slinging, especially if one of those
vulnerable seats is in your state.

It's not so much the *****-slinging that's bad - I think a lot of
voters see through, or ignore, that stuff.
It's the (if it isn't illegal it should be) dirty tricks, like
threatening to deport immigrants who vote, like Rethugs doing
telephone marathons to swing voters claiming to be Democrats who
support the Democratic "gay agenda" candidate. And I'm sure they'll
come up with more as we get down to the wire.
And I'm sure we'll hear about voting machines in heavily-Democratic
districts that break down early and don't get fixed, polls with armed
nasties outside (talk about electioneering), polling places that have
to be relocated at the last minute ... all the tricks that have worked
before. Even if dozens of people end up in prison for them (and
Jebus' return is more likely), the courts aren't about to call for a
new election - the damage, once done, can't be undone.
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"A stupid man's report of what a clever man says is never accurate because he
unconsciously translates what he hears into something he can understand."
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User: "johac"

Title: Re: Churches Back Republicans - I.R.S. Targets A.C.L.U. Lawyers! 22 Oct 2006 01:02:53 AM
In article <7dtkj21ogi5hmt933qvlrc99pi9unah3qr@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:

On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 00:11:35 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:

Today I heard them talking about vulnerable seats. Their own. Prepare
for two weeks of vicious ***** slinging, especially if one of those
vulnerable seats is in your state.


It's not so much the *****-slinging that's bad - I think a lot of
voters see through, or ignore, that stuff.

Some believe the crap, but those are usually people who have decided to
vote against the target of the ads anyway.


It's the (if it isn't illegal it should be) dirty tricks, like
threatening to deport immigrants who vote, like Rethugs doing
telephone marathons to swing voters claiming to be Democrats who
support the Democratic "gay agenda" candidate. And I'm sure they'll
come up with more as we get down to the wire.

I'm sure that you heard about the jackass in California who sent out
letters in Spanish saying that you could go to jail if you voted and
were an immigrant, legal or not.
http://tinyurl.com/yasnnb
The good news is that the Feds are on his case.


And I'm sure we'll hear about voting machines in heavily-Democratic
districts that break down early and don't get fixed, polls with armed
nasties outside (talk about electioneering), polling places that have
to be relocated at the last minute ... all the tricks that have worked
before. Even if dozens of people end up in prison for them (and
Jebus' return is more likely), the courts aren't about to call for a
new election - the damage, once done, can't be undone.

I live in the 50th Congressional district in California, the home of the
infamous machine 'sleep overs'. I'm voting by mail this time, but I
wonder if that's any safer. The ballots are read in an optiscan machine
also made by Diebold or ES&S. At least there's a piece of paper
somewhere, unless of course they throw the ones they don't like in the
dumpster.
I've signed several petitions and I really wish we could go back to old
fashioned paper ballots where you just put an 'X' next to the candidates
name.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
.

User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Churches Back Republicans - I.R.S. Targets A.C.L.U. Lawyers! 26 Oct 2006 05:30:29 PM
On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 15:37:23 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote
in alt.atheism

On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 00:11:35 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:

Today I heard them talking about vulnerable seats. Their own. Prepare
for two weeks of vicious ***** slinging, especially if one of those
vulnerable seats is in your state.


It's not so much the *****-slinging that's bad - I think a lot of
voters see through, or ignore, that stuff.

It's the (if it isn't illegal it should be) dirty tricks, like
threatening to deport immigrants who vote, like Rethugs doing
telephone marathons to swing voters claiming to be Democrats who
support the Democratic "gay agenda" candidate. And I'm sure they'll
come up with more as we get down to the wire.

And I'm sure we'll hear about voting machines in heavily-Democratic
districts that break down early and don't get fixed, polls with armed
nasties outside (talk about electioneering), polling places that have
to be relocated at the last minute ... all the tricks that have worked
before. Even if dozens of people end up in prison for them (and
Jebus' return is more likely), the courts aren't about to call for a
new election - the damage, once done, can't be undone.

Can be. It just won't be.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
.

User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Churches Back Republicans - I.R.S. Targets A.C.L.U. Lawyers! 26 Oct 2006 09:57:31 PM
On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 15:37:23 -0400, Al Klein wrote:

On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 00:11:35 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:

Today I heard them talking about vulnerable seats. Their own. Prepare
for two weeks of vicious ***** slinging, especially if one of those
vulnerable seats is in your state.


It's not so much the *****-slinging that's bad - I think a lot of
voters see through, or ignore, that stuff.

It's the (if it isn't illegal it should be) dirty tricks, like
threatening to deport immigrants who vote, like Rethugs doing
telephone marathons to swing voters claiming to be Democrats who
support the Democratic "gay agenda" candidate. And I'm sure they'll
come up with more as we get down to the wire.

And I'm sure we'll hear about voting machines in heavily-Democratic
districts that break down early and don't get fixed, polls with armed
nasties outside (talk about electioneering), polling places that have
to be relocated at the last minute ... all the tricks that have worked
before. Even if dozens of people end up in prison for them (and
Jebus' return is more likely), the courts aren't about to call for a
new election - the damage, once done, can't be undone.

What's entertaining about that is, after a while, if an electorate angrily
stomps down to the polls to "throw the bums out" and the bums are still
there, the government's credibility eventually goes into the toilet.
In short, we'll become the Soviet Union...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"...otherwise, we're looking at the potential
of this kind of world:.... a world in which
oil reserves are controlled by radicals in order
to extract blackmail from the West..." [George Bush]
Wait... oil reserves?
.
User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: Churches Back Republicans - I.R.S. Targets A.C.L.U. Lawyers! 27 Oct 2006 07:47:44 AM
On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 21:57:31 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

What's entertaining about that is, after a while, if an electorate angrily
stomps down to the polls to "throw the bums out" and the bums are still
there, the government's credibility eventually goes into the toilet.
In short, we'll become the Soviet Union...

Will become?
--
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numerous stupidities, for which only He Himself can be held responsible; in my opinion,
only His nonexistence could excuse Him."
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User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Churches Back Republicans - I.R.S. Targets A.C.L.U. Lawyers! 27 Oct 2006 12:15:12 PM
On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 08:47:44 -0400, Al Klein wrote:

On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 21:57:31 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

What's entertaining about that is, after a while, if an electorate angrily
stomps down to the polls to "throw the bums out" and the bums are still
there, the government's credibility eventually goes into the toilet.


In short, we'll become the Soviet Union...


Will become?

Well, we're not quite there yet. But we're well on our way toward one
party rule.
Speaking of which, one sign we're not there quite yet is CNN woke up. I'm
sure they'll hit the snooze button but they were running a series on
"broken government" and I caught one segment in which they actually talked
about the Republican party leadership dismantling the House. No debate, no
deliberation, the party members are marched in to vote on bills they don't
get to read. They don't govern. Party members are expected to spend their
time raising money for the party and voting blindly on bills the
leadership demands.
I couldn't believe CNN was actually talking about it, about how Soviet the
House is now. And how they've been working to make the Senate the same
(that's what the big "nuclear option" thing and the squawking about judges
was about).
They've almost got it to where we're ruled by executive decree. Two
centuries of tradition flushed away in a handful of years...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"...otherwise, we're looking at the potential
of this kind of world:.... a world in which
oil reserves are controlled by radicals in order
to extract blackmail from the West..." [George Bush]
Wait... oil reserves?
.
User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: Churches Back Republicans - I.R.S. Targets A.C.L.U. Lawyers! 27 Oct 2006 01:17:52 PM
On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 12:15:12 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 08:47:44 -0400, Al Klein wrote:

On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 21:57:31 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

What's entertaining about that is, after a while, if an electorate angrily
stomps down to the polls to "throw the bums out" and the bums are still
there, the government's credibility eventually goes into the toilet.


In short, we'll become the Soviet Union...


Will become?


Well, we're not quite there yet.

True - they still let us pretend to vote for an opposition party.

Speaking of which, one sign we're not there quite yet is CNN woke up. I'm
sure they'll hit the snooze button but they were running a series on
"broken government" and I caught one segment in which they actually talked
about the Republican party leadership dismantling the House. No debate, no
deliberation, the party members are marched in to vote on bills they don't
get to read. They don't govern. Party members are expected to spend their
time raising money for the party and voting blindly on bills the
leadership demands.

Why bother? Putsch has already shown that his method of governing is
to do whatever he wants. If Congress passes a bill he doesn't like he
ignores it, if they fail to pass a bill he likes he acts as if it
passed anyway. Why waste money and effort on maintaining a Congress?
Send them all home, send the federal judges all home and let Henry
II^H^H^H Bush do what he wants.
I wonder if, in 2 years, we'll hear that it's dangerous to the
national security to change presidents in the middle of a war, so
elections for president are being put off until the war is over.

They've almost got it to where we're ruled by executive decree. Two
centuries of tradition flushed away in a handful of years...

Oh, looks as if we were thinking along the same lines.
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"I've heard the call. I believe God wants me to run for president."
- George W. Bush, quoted in George Magazine, September, 2000
"God gave the savior to the German people. We have faith,
deep and unshakeable faith, that he was sent to us by
God to save Germany."
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User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Churches Back Republicans - I.R.S. Targets A.C.L.U. Lawyers! 29 Oct 2006 12:12:14 PM
On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 14:17:52 -0400, Al Klein wrote:

On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 12:15:12 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 08:47:44 -0400, Al Klein wrote:

On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 21:57:31 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

What's entertaining about that is, after a while, if an electorate angrily
stomps down to the polls to "throw the bums out" and the bums are still
there, the government's credibility eventually goes into the toilet.


In short, we'll become the Soviet Union...


Will become?


Well, we're not quite there yet.


True - they still let us pretend to vote for an opposition party.

Speaking of which, one sign we're not there quite yet is CNN woke up. I'm
sure they'll hit the snooze button but they were running a series on
"broken government" and I caught one segment in which they actually talked
about the Republican party leadership dismantling the House. No debate, no
deliberation, the party members are marched in to vote on bills they don't
get to read. They don't govern. Party members are expected to spend their
time raising money for the party and voting blindly on bills the
leadership demands.


Why bother? Putsch has already shown that his method of governing is
to do whatever he wants. If Congress passes a bill he doesn't like he
ignores it, if they fail to pass a bill he likes he acts as if it
passed anyway. Why waste money and effort on maintaining a Congress?
Send them all home, send the federal judges all home and let Henry
II^H^H^H Bush do what he wants.

Two things hit me. One, I didn't know it had gotten quite *that bad. I
mean, I knew they were ramming corporate written bills through without
bothering to debate them but the degree to which they had Sovietized the
House surprised me. Two, CNN was talking about it?
CNN???

I wonder if, in 2 years, we'll hear that it's dangerous to the
national security to change presidents in the middle of a war, so
elections for president are being put off until the war is over.

For a while now, I've had this nagging voice in the back of my head that
keeps whispering "nobody goes to this much trouble to seize this much
power just to hand it over to someone else."

They've almost got it to where we're ruled by executive decree. Two
centuries of tradition flushed away in a handful of years...


Oh, looks as if we were thinking along the same lines.

Be interesting to watch. If they keep Congress this time round, it
wouldn't surprise me if they complete their little one party rule project
and we'll actually reach the point nothing short of an actual revolution
will dig them out of power.
Not that *this public would do anything. I mean, commercial breaks aren't
long enough...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"...otherwise, we're looking at the potential
of this kind of world:.... a world in which
oil reserves are controlled by radicals in order
to extract blackmail from the West..." [George Bush]
Wait... oil reserves?
.
User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: Churches Back Republicans - I.R.S. Targets A.C.L.U. Lawyers! 29 Oct 2006 07:08:31 PM
On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 12:12:14 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

Be interesting to watch. If they keep Congress this time round, it
wouldn't surprise me if they complete their little one party rule project
and we'll actually reach the point nothing short of an actual revolution
will dig them out of power.

Why worry about Congress? He'll do what he wants, making appointments
as he chooses, pocket vetoes, presidential orders, regardless of what
Congress does, whether they steal this election or the Democrats take
control of both houses.

Not that *this public would do anything. I mean, commercial breaks aren't
long enough...

Even without commercials, their attention spans aren't long enough.
And they'd never believe that America is anything but a total
democracy. Just let the Churches do what they want and the clergy
will keep the sheeple in line.
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
There are three kinds of men:
The ones that learn by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence.
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User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Churches Back Republicans - I.R.S. Targets A.C.L.U. Lawyers! 29 Oct 2006 07:51:40 PM
On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 12:12:14 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo>
wrote in alt.atheism

On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 14:17:52 -0400, Al Klein wrote:

On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 12:15:12 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 08:47:44 -0400, Al Klein wrote:

On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 21:57:31 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

What's entertaining about that is, after a while, if an electorate angrily
stomps down to the polls to "throw the bums out" and the bums are still
there, the government's credibility eventually goes into the toilet.


In short, we'll become the Soviet Union...


Will become?


Well, we're not quite there yet.


True - they still let us pretend to vote for an opposition party.

Speaking of which, one sign we're not there quite yet is CNN woke up. I'm
sure they'll hit the snooze button but they were running a series on
"broken government" and I caught one segment in which they actually talked
about the Republican party leadership dismantling the House. No debate, no
deliberation, the party members are marched in to vote on bills they don't
get to read. They don't govern. Party members are expected to spend their
time raising money for the party and voting blindly on bills the
leadership demands.


Why bother? Putsch has already shown that his method of governing is
to do whatever he wants. If Congress passes a bill he doesn't like he
ignores it, if they fail to pass a bill he likes he acts as if it
passed anyway. Why waste money and effort on maintaining a Congress?
Send them all home, send the federal judges all home and let Henry
II^H^H^H Bush do what he wants.


Two things hit me. One, I didn't know it had gotten quite *that bad. I
mean, I knew they were ramming corporate written bills through without
bothering to debate them but the degree to which they had Sovietized the
House surprised me. Two, CNN was talking about it?

CNN???

I wonder if, in 2 years, we'll hear that it's dangerous to the
national security to change presidents in the middle of a war, so
elections for president are being put off until the war is over.


For a while now, I've had this nagging voice in the back of my head that
keeps whispering "nobody goes to this much trouble to seize this much
power just to hand it over to someone else."

[grim smile] No, they don't.

They've almost got it to where we're ruled by executive decree. Two
centuries of tradition flushed away in a handful of years...


Oh, looks as if we were thinking along the same lines.


Be interesting to watch. If they keep Congress this time round, it
wouldn't surprise me if they complete their little one party rule project
and we'll actually reach the point nothing short of an actual revolution
will dig them out of power.

We're already at that point and have been for a couple of years.
They're more and more blatant as time goes on.

Not that *this public would do anything. I mean, commercial breaks aren't
long enough...

No, but military units certainly could.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
.
User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: Churches Back Republicans - I.R.S. Targets A.C.L.U. Lawyers! 30 Oct 2006 09:56:19 AM
On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 17:51:40 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 12:12:14 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo>
wrote in alt.atheism

Not that *this public would do anything. I mean, commercial breaks aren't
long enough...

No, but military units certainly could.

And more and more of the people he caused to be trained are changing
from "Gotta fight to keep them over there" to "it's time the *****
deserter was replaced". I hear the rumble getting louder all the
time. Oh, there are still some in the military whose only difference
from Fred is the color of their clothes, but I do hear the rumbling
getting louder.
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"I cannot conceive of a God who rewards and punishes his creatures, or has a will of the
type of which we are conscious in ourselves. An individual who should survive his
physical death is also beyond my comprehension,...; such notions are for the fears or
absurd egoism of feeble souls."
- Albert Einstein
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Churches Back Republicans - I.R.S. Targets A.C.L.U. Lawyers! 30 Oct 2006 06:48:35 PM
On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 10:56:19 -0500, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote
in alt.atheism

On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 17:51:40 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 12:12:14 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo>
wrote in alt.atheism


Not that *this public would do anything. I mean, commercial breaks aren't
long enough...


No, but military units certainly could.


And more and more of the people he caused to be trained are changing
from "Gotta fight to keep them over there" to "it's time the *****
deserter was replaced". I hear the rumble getting louder all the
time. Oh, there are still some in the military whose only difference
from Fred is the color of their clothes, but I do hear the rumbling
getting louder.

That it's getting louder is good news.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
.
User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: Churches Back Republicans - I.R.S. Targets A.C.L.U. Lawyers! 30 Oct 2006 07:43:05 PM
On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 16:48:35 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 10:56:19 -0500, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote
in alt.atheism

On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 17:51:40 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 12:12:14 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo>
wrote in alt.atheism


Not that *this public would do anything. I mean, commercial breaks aren't
long enough...


No, but military units certainly could.


And more and more of the people he caused to be trained are changing
from "Gotta fight to keep them over there" to "it's time the *****
deserter was replaced". I hear the rumble getting louder all the
time. Oh, there are still some in the military whose only difference
from Fred is the color of their clothes, but I do hear the rumbling
getting louder.


That it's getting louder is good news.

And that they're well trained and, in most cases, well armed.
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived."
- Isaac Asimov
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Churches Back Republicans - I.R.S. Targets A.C.L.U. Lawyers! 01 Nov 2006 09:58:53 AM
On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 20:43:05 -0500, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote
in alt.atheism

On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 16:48:35 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 10:56:19 -0500, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote
in alt.atheism

On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 17:51:40 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 12:12:14 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo>
wrote in alt.atheism


Not that *this public would do anything. I mean, commercial breaks aren't
long enough...


No, but military units certainly could.


And more and more of the people he caused to be trained are changing
from "Gotta fight to keep them over there" to "it's time the *****
deserter was replaced". I hear the rumble getting louder all the
time. Oh, there are still some in the military whose only difference
from Fred is the color of their clothes, but I do hear the rumbling
getting louder.


That it's getting louder is good news.


And that they're well trained and, in most cases, well armed.

Even better.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
.




User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Churches Back Republicans - I.R.S. Targets A.C.L.U. Lawyers! 31 Oct 2006 08:45:33 AM
On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 17:51:40 -0800, stoney wrote:

On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 12:12:14 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo>
wrote in alt.atheism

On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 14:17:52 -0400, Al Klein wrote:

On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 12:15:12 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 08:47:44 -0400, Al Klein wrote:

On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 21:57:31 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

What's entertaining about that is, after a while, if an electorate angrily
stomps down to the polls to "throw the bums out" and the bums are still
there, the government's credibility eventually goes into the toilet.


In short, we'll become the Soviet Union...


Will become?


Well, we're not quite there yet.


True - they still let us pretend to vote for an opposition party.

Speaking of which, one sign we're not there quite yet is CNN woke up. I'm
sure they'll hit the snooze button but they were running a series on
"broken government" and I caught one segment in which they actually talked
about the Republican party leadership dismantling the House. No debate, no
deliberation, the party members are marched in to vote on bills they don't
get to read. They don't govern. Party members are expected to spend their
time raising money for the party and voting blindly on bills the
leadership demands.


Why bother? Putsch has already shown that his method of governing is
to do whatever he wants. If Congress passes a bill he doesn't like he
ignores it, if they fail to pass a bill he likes he acts as if it
passed anyway. Why waste money and effort on maintaining a Congress?
Send them all home, send the federal judges all home and let Henry
II^H^H^H Bush do what he wants.


Two things hit me. One, I didn't know it had gotten quite *that bad. I
mean, I knew they were ramming corporate written bills through without
bothering to debate them but the degree to which they had Sovietized the
House surprised me. Two, CNN was talking about it?

CNN???

I wonder if, in 2 years, we'll hear that it's dangerous to the
national security to change presidents in the middle of a war, so
elections for president are being put off until the war is over.


For a while now, I've had this nagging voice in the back of my head that
keeps whispering "nobody goes to this much trouble to seize this much
power just to hand it over to someone else."


[grim smile] No, they don't.

They've almost got it to where we're ruled by executive decree. Two
centuries of tradition flushed away in a handful of years...


Oh, looks as if we were thinking along the same lines.


Be interesting to watch. If they keep Congress this time round, it
wouldn't surprise me if they complete their little one party rule project
and we'll actually reach the point nothing short of an actual revolution
will dig them out of power.


We're already at that point and have been for a couple of years.
They're more and more blatant as time goes on.

Not that *this public would do anything. I mean, commercial breaks aren't
long enough...


No, but military units certainly could.

Speaking of which, I hear military guys who criticize reich whiners like
The Big Giant Head are being censored. For security purposes of course...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"...otherwise, we're looking at the potential
of this kind of world:.... a world in which
oil reserves are controlled by radicals in order
to extract blackmail from the West..." [George Bush]
Wait... oil reserves?
.
User: "johac"

Title: Re: Churches Back Republicans - I.R.S. Targets A.C.L.U. Lawyers! 01 Nov 2006 01:16:05 AM
In article <2a6dnQjZ-4EQ_NrYnZ2dnUVZ_uydnZ2d@giganews.com>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 17:51:40 -0800, stoney wrote:

On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 12:12:14 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo>
wrote in alt.atheism

On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 14:17:52 -0400, Al Klein wrote:

On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 12:15:12 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 08:47:44 -0400, Al Klein wrote:

On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 21:57:31 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

What's entertaining about that is, after a while, if an electorate
angrily
stomps down to the polls to "throw the bums out" and the bums are still
there, the government's credibility eventually goes into the toilet.


In short, we'll become the Soviet Union...


Will become?


Well, we're not quite there yet.


True - they still let us pretend to vote for an opposition party.

Speaking of which, one sign we're not there quite yet is CNN woke up. I'm
sure they'll hit the snooze button but they were running a series on
"broken government" and I caught one segment in which they actually
talked
about the Republican party leadership dismantling the House. No debate,
no
deliberation, the party members are marched in to vote on bills they
don't
get to read. They don't govern. Party members are expected to spend their
time raising money for the party and voting blindly on bills the
leadership demands.


Why bother? Putsch has already shown that his method of governing is
to do whatever he wants. If Congress passes a bill he doesn't like he
ignores it, if they fail to pass a bill he likes he acts as if it
passed anyway. Why waste money and effort on maintaining a Congress?
Send them all home, send the federal judges all home and let Henry
II^H^H^H Bush do what he wants.


Two things hit me. One, I didn't know it had gotten quite *that bad. I
mean, I knew they were ramming corporate written bills through without
bothering to debate them but the degree to which they had Sovietized the
House surprised me. Two, CNN was talking about it?

CNN???

I wonder if, in 2 years, we'll hear that it's dangerous to the
national security to change presidents in the middle of a war, so
elections for president are being put off until the war is over.


For a while now, I've had this nagging voice in the back of my head that
keeps whispering "nobody goes to this much trouble to seize this much
power just to hand it over to someone else."


[grim smile] No, they don't.

They've almost got it to where we're ruled by executive decree. Two
centuries of tradition flushed away in a handful of years...


Oh, looks as if we were thinking along the same lines.


Be interesting to watch. If they keep Congress this time round, it
wouldn't surprise me if they complete their little one party rule project
and we'll actually reach the point nothing short of an actual revolution
will dig them out of power.


We're already at that point and have been for a couple of years.
They're more and more blatant as time goes on.

Not that *this public would do anything. I mean, commercial breaks aren't
long enough...


No, but military units certainly could.


Speaking of which, I hear military guys who criticize reich whiners like
The Big Giant Head are being censored. For security purposes of course...

I saw that today too. We are not allowed to criticize Big Brother or the
Big Giant Head.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Churches Back Republicans - I.R.S. Targets A.C.L.U. Lawyers! 01 Nov 2006 10:08:29 AM
On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 23:16:05 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

In article <2a6dnQjZ-4EQ_NrYnZ2dnUVZ_uydnZ2d@giganews.com>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

[]

Speaking of which, I hear military guys who criticize reich whiners like
The Big Giant Head are being censored. For security purposes of course...


I saw that today too. We are not allowed to criticize Big Brother or the
Big Giant Head.

Where?
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
.

User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Churches Back Republicans - I.R.S. Targets A.C.L.U. Lawyers! 01 Nov 2006 01:07:36 PM
On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 23:16:05 -0800, johac wrote:

In article <2a6dnQjZ-4EQ_NrYnZ2dnUVZ_uydnZ2d@giganews.com>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 17:51:40 -0800, stoney wrote:

On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 12:12:14 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo>
wrote in alt.atheism

On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 14:17:52 -0400, Al Klein wrote:

On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 12:15:12 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 08:47:44 -0400, Al Klein wrote:

On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 21:57:31 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

What's entertaining about that is, after a while, if an electorate
angrily
stomps down to the polls to "throw the bums out" and the bums are still
there, the government's credibility eventually goes into the toilet.


In short, we'll become the Soviet Union...


Will become?


Well, we're not quite there yet.


True - they still let us pretend to vote for an opposition party.

Speaking of which, one sign we're not there quite yet is CNN woke up. I'm
sure they'll hit the snooze button but they were running a series on
"broken government" and I caught one segment in which they actually
talked
about the Republican party leadership dismantling the House. No debate,
no
deliberation, the party members are marched in to vote on bills they
don't
get to read. They don't govern. Party members are expected to spend their
time raising money for the party and voting blindly on bills the
leadership demands.


Why bother? Putsch has already shown that his method of governing is
to do whatever he wants. If Congress passes a bill he doesn't like he
ignores it, if they fail to pass a bill he likes he acts as if it
passed anyway. Why waste money and effort on maintaining a Congress?
Send them all home, send the federal judges all home and let Henry
II^H^H^H Bush do what he wants.


Two things hit me. One, I didn't know it had gotten quite *that bad. I
mean, I knew they were ramming corporate written bills through without
bothering to debate them but the degree to which they had Sovietized the
House surprised me. Two, CNN was talking about it?

CNN???

I wonder if, in 2 years, we'll hear that it's dangerous to the
national security to change presidents in the middle of a war, so
elections for president are being put off until the war is over.


For a while now, I've had this nagging voice in the back of my head that
keeps whispering "nobody goes to this much trouble to seize this much
power just to hand it over to someone else."


[grim smile] No, they don't.

They've almost got it to where we're ruled by executive decree. Two
centuries of tradition flushed away in a handful of years...


Oh, looks as if we were thinking along the same lines.


Be interesting to watch. If they keep Congress this time round, it
wouldn't surprise me if they complete their little one party rule project
and we'll actually reach the point nothing short of an actual revolution
will dig them out of power.


We're already at that point and have been for a couple of years.
They're more and more blatant as time goes on.

Not that *this public would do anything. I mean, commercial breaks aren't
long enough...


No, but military units certainly could.


Speaking of which, I hear military guys who criticize reich whiners like
The Big Giant Head are being censored. For security purposes of course...


I saw that today too. We are not allowed to criticize Big Brother or the
Big Giant Head.

You mean Big Frat Brother don't you Citizen?
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"...otherwise, we're looking at the potential
of this kind of world:.... a world in which
oil reserves are controlled by radicals in order
to extract blackmail from the West..." [George Bush]
Wait... oil reserves?
.
User: "johac"

Title: Re: Churches Back Republicans - I.R.S. Targets A.C.L.U. Lawyers! 02 Nov 2006 01:34:16 AM
In article <yvadnXY_j73lbdXYnZ2dnUVZ_qydnZ2d@giganews.com>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 23:16:05 -0800, johac wrote:

In article <2a6dnQjZ-4EQ_NrYnZ2dnUVZ_uydnZ2d@giganews.com>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 17:51:40 -0800, stoney wrote:

On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 12:12:14 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo>
wrote in alt.atheism

On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 14:17:52 -0400, Al Klein wrote:

On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 12:15:12 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 08:47:44 -0400, Al Klein wrote:

On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 21:57:31 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

What's entertaining about that is, after a while, if an electorate
angrily
stomps down to the polls to "throw the bums out" and the bums are
still
there, the government's credibility eventually goes into the toilet.


In short, we'll become the Soviet Union...


Will become?


Well, we're not quite there yet.


True - they still let us pretend to vote for an opposition party.

Speaking of which, one sign we're not there quite yet is CNN woke up.
I'm
sure they'll hit the snooze button but they were running a series on
"broken government" and I caught one segment in which they actually
talked
about the Republican party leadership dismantling the House. No
debate,
no
deliberation, the party members are marched in to vote on bills they
don't
get to read. They don't govern. Party members are expected to spend
their
time raising money for the party and voting blindly on bills the
leadership demands.


Why bother? Putsch has already shown that his method of governing is
to do whatever he wants. If Congress passes a bill he doesn't like he
ignores it, if they fail to pass a bill he likes he acts as if it
passed anyway. Why waste money and effort on maintaining a Congress?
Send them all home, send the federal judges all home and let Henry
II^H^H^H Bush do what he wants.


Two things hit me. One, I didn't know it had gotten quite *that bad. I
mean, I knew they were ramming corporate written bills through without
bothering to debate them but the degree to which they had Sovietized the
House surprised me. Two, CNN was talking about it?

CNN???

I wonder if, in 2 years, we'll hear that it's dangerous to the
national security to change presidents in the middle of a war, so
elections for president are being put off until the war is over.


For a while now, I've had this nagging voice in the back of my head that
keeps whispering "nobody goes to this much trouble to seize this much
power just to hand it over to someone else."


[grim smile] No, they don't.

They've almost got it to where we're ruled by executive decree. Two
centuries of tradition flushed away in a handful of years...


Oh, looks as if we were thinking along the same lines.


Be interesting to watch. If they keep Congress this time round, it
wouldn't surprise me if they complete their little one party rule
project
and we'll actually reach the point nothing short of an actual revolution
will dig them out of power.


We're already at that point and have been for a couple of years.
They're more and more blatant as time goes on.

Not that *this public would do anything. I mean, commercial breaks
aren't
long enough...


No, but military units certainly could.


Speaking of which, I hear military guys who criticize reich whiners like
The Big Giant Head are being censored. For security purposes of course...


I saw that today too. We are not allowed to criticize Big Brother or the
Big Giant Head.


You mean Big Frat Brother don't you Citizen?

Of course. I was just testing your loyalty, Citizen.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
.
User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Churches Back Republicans - I.R.S. Targets A.C.L.U. Lawyers! 02 Nov 2006 10:18:10 AM
On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 23:34:16 -0800, johac wrote:

In article <yvadnXY_j73lbdXYnZ2dnUVZ_qydnZ2d@giganews.com>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 23:16:05 -0800, johac wrote:

In article <2a6dnQjZ-4EQ_NrYnZ2dnUVZ_uydnZ2d@giganews.com>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 17:51:40 -0800, stoney wrote:

On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 12:12:14 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo>
wrote in alt.atheism

On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 14:17:52 -0400, Al Klein wrote:

On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 12:15:12 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 08:47:44 -0400, Al Klein wrote:

On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 21:57:31 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

What's entertaining about that is, after a while, if an electorate
angrily
stomps down to the polls to "throw the bums out" and the bums are
still
there, the government's credibility eventually goes into the toilet.


In short, we'll become the Soviet Union...


Will become?


Well, we're not quite there yet.


True - they still let us pretend to vote for an opposition party.

Speaking of which, one sign we're not there quite yet is CNN woke up.
I'm
sure they'll hit the snooze button but they were running a series on
"broken government" and I caught one segment in which they actually
talked
about the Republican party leadership dismantling the House. No
debate,
no
deliberation, the party members are marched in to vote on bills they
don't
get to read. They don't govern. Party members are expected to spend
their
time raising money for the party and voting blindly on bills the
leadership demands.


Why bother? Putsch has already shown that his method of governing is
to do whatever he wants. If Congress passes a bill he doesn't like he
ignores it, if they fail to pass a bill he likes he acts as if it
passed anyway. Why waste money and effort on maintaining a Congress?
Send them all home, send the federal judges all home and let Henry
II^H^H^H Bush do what he wants.


Two things hit me. One, I didn't know it had gotten quite *that bad. I
mean, I knew they were ramming corporate written bills through without
bothering to debate them but the degree to which they had Sovietized the
House surprised me. Two, CNN was talking about it?

CNN???

I wonder if, in 2 years, we'll hear that it's dangerous to the
national security to change presidents in the middle of a war, so
elections for president are being put off until the war is over.


For a while now, I've had this nagging voice in the back of my head that
keeps whispering "nobody goes to this much trouble to seize this much
power just to hand it over to someone else."


[grim smile] No, they don't.

They've almost got it to where we're ruled by executive decree. Two
centuries of tradition flushed away in a handful of years...


Oh, looks as if we were thinking along the same lines.


Be interesting to watch. If they keep Congress this time round, it
wouldn't surprise me if they complete their little one party rule
project
and we'll actually reach the point nothing short of an actual revolution
will dig them out of power.


We're already at that point and have been for a couple of years.
They're more and more blatant as time goes on.

Not that *this public would do anything. I mean, commercial breaks
aren't
long enough...


No, but military units certainly could.


Speaking of which, I hear military guys who criticize reich whiners like
The Big Giant Head are being censored. For security purposes of course...


I saw that today too. We are not allowed to criticize Big Brother or the
Big Giant Head.


You mean Big Frat Brother don't you Citizen?


Of course. I was just testing your loyalty, Citizen.

Sure you were Goldstein...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"...otherwise, we're looking at the potential
of this kind of world:.... a world in which
oil reserves are controlled by radicals in order
to extract blackmail from the West..." [George Bush]
Wait... oil reserves?
.
User: "johac"

Title: Re: Churches Back Republicans - I.R.S. Targets A.C.L.U. Lawyers! 03 Nov 2006 12:43:05 AM
In article <jIednXW1kqbfh9fYnZ2dnUVZ_oKdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 23:34:16 -0800, johac wrote:

In article <yvadnXY_j73lbdXYnZ2dnUVZ_qydnZ2d@giganews.com>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 23:16:05 -0800, johac wrote:

In article <2a6dnQjZ-4EQ_NrYnZ2dnUVZ_uydnZ2d@giganews.com>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 17:51:40 -0800, stoney wrote:

On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 12:12:14 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo>
wrote in alt.atheism

On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 14:17:52 -0400, Al Klein wrote:

On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 12:15:12 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 08:47:44 -0400, Al Klein wrote:

On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 21:57:31 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

What's entertaining about that is, after a while, if an
electorate
angrily
stomps down to the polls to "throw the bums out" and the bums are
still
there, the government's credibility eventually goes into the
toilet.


In short, we'll become the Soviet Union...


Will become?


Well, we're not quite there yet.


True - they still let us pretend to vote for an opposition party.

Speaking of which, one sign we're not there quite yet is CNN woke
up.
I'm
sure they'll hit the snooze button but they were running a series
on
"broken government" and I caught one segment in which they actually
talked
about the Republican party leadership dismantling the House. No
debate,
no
deliberation, the party members are marched in to vote on bills
they
don't
get to read. They don't govern. Party members are expected to spend
their
time raising money for the party and voting blindly on bills the
leadership demands.


Why bother? Putsch has already shown that his method of governing
is
to do whatever he wants. If Congress passes a bill he doesn't like
he
ignores it, if they fail to pass a bill he likes he acts as if it
passed anyway. Why waste money and effort on maintaining a
Congress?
Send them all home, send the federal judges all home and let Henry
II^H^H^H Bush do what he wants.


Two things hit me. One, I didn't know it had gotten quite *that bad.
I
mean, I knew they were ramming corporate written bills through
without
bothering to debate them but the degree to which they had Sovietized
the
House surprised me. Two, CNN was talking about it?

CNN???

I wonder if, in 2 years, we'll hear that it's dangerous to the
national security to change presidents in the middle of a war, so
elections for president are being put off until the war is over.


For a while now, I've had this nagging voice in the back of my head
that
keeps whispering "nobody goes to this much trouble to seize this much
power just to hand it over to someone else."


[grim smile] No, they don't.

They've almost got it to where we're ruled by executive decree. Two
centuries of tradition flushed away in a handful of years...


Oh, looks as if we were thinking along the same lines.


Be interesting to watch. If they keep Congress this time round, it
wouldn't surprise me if they complete their little one party rule
project
and we'll actually reach the point nothing short of an actual
revolution
will dig them out of power.


We're already at that point and have been for a couple of years.
They're more and more blatant as time goes on.

Not that *this public would do anything. I mean, commercial breaks
aren't
long enough...


No, but military units certainly could.


Speaking of which, I hear military guys who criticize reich whiners
like
The Big Giant Head are being censored. For security purposes of
course...


I saw that today too. We are not allowed to criticize Big Brother or the
Big Giant Head.


You mean Big Frat Brother don't you Citizen?


Of course. I was just testing your loyalty, Citizen.


Sure you were Goldstein...

Careful, or you'll become an unperson.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
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User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: Churches Back Republicans - I.R.S. Targets A.C.L.U. Lawyers! 01 Nov 2006 02:17:11 PM
On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 13:07:36 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 23:16:05 -0800, johac wrote:

I saw that today too. We are not allowed to criticize Big Brother or the
Big Giant Head.

You mean Big Frat Brother don't you Citizen?

Let's save bandwidth and just call him the Big Fathead.
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surroundings, you will find yourself in a place which has conditions
exactly suitable to your being there. If the environment was
hostile or incompatible in some important way then you would not be
there in the first place. Therefore the suitability and seeming
perfection of your universe cannot be taken as evidence of anything
more than your existence in it."
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