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04 May 2007 12:47:04 PM |
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Cizinc who is your unsanitary god of the day |
Cizinc [stench]
Fleshless nose & lower jaw, entire head may be depicted as a skull, the
spine and rids are often showing. His collar has death eyes between
lines of hair & a long bone hangs from one earlobe. The body is painted
with black and in particular, yellow spots which is the Mayan color of
death.
Mayan Yucatec/classical Mesoamerican/Mexico
He is the most important god of death in the Mayan cultural area, he
resides in Metnal, burns the souls of the dead. This is a rather
strange procedure for initially the mouth and the ***** is burnt. When
the soul complains, he douses it with water. When the soul complains
again, he burns it again until there's absolutely nothing left. At this
point the soul is passed over to Sucunyaum. Sucunyaum then spits on his
hands then cleanses the soul. At this point the soul is free to go
where it chooses.
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| User: "Pangur Ban" |
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| Title: Re: Cizinc who is your unsanitary god of the day |
04 May 2007 04:12:22 PM |
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walksalone responded :
Cizinc [stench]
Fleshless nose & lower jaw, entire head may be depicted as a skull, the
spine and rids are often showing. His collar has death eyes between
lines of hair & a long bone hangs from one earlobe. The body is painted
with black and in particular, yellow spots which is the Mayan color of
death.
Mayan Yucatec/classical Mesoamerican/Mexico
He is the most important god of death in the Mayan cultural area, he
resides in Metnal, burns the souls of the dead. This is a rather
strange procedure for initially the mouth and the ***** is burnt. When
the soul complains, he douses it with water. When the soul complains
again, he burns it again until there's absolutely nothing left. At this
point the soul is passed over to Sucunyaum. Sucunyaum then spits on his
hands then cleanses the soul. At this point the soul is free to go
where it chooses.
Couldn't find Cizinc through google - but did find "Cizin"
Cizin (Kisin): "Stinking One"; Mayan earthquake god and god of death,
ruler of the subterranean land of the dead. He lives beneath the earth
in a purgatory where all souls except those of soldiers killed in
battle and women who died in childbirth spend some time. Suicides are
doomed to his realm for eternity. He may possibly have been one aspect
of a malevolent underworld deity who manifested himself under several
names and guises (e.g., Ah Puch, Xibalba, and Yum Cimil). In
pre-Conquest codices, or manuscripts, the god of death is frequently
depicted with the god of war in scenes of human sacrifice. One aspect
of the dualistic nature of the Mayan religion is symbolically portrayed
in the existing codices, which show Cizin uprooting or destroying trees
planted by Chac, the rain god. Cizin is often depicted on pottery and
illustrated in the codices in the form of a dancing skeleton, holding a
smoking cigarette. He is also known by his death collar, the most
prominent feature of which consists of disembodied eyes dangling by
their nerve cords. After the Spanish Conquest, Cizin became merged with
the Christian devil.
http://www.river-styx.net/mayangods.htm
I assume these two are the same god......
I was hoping for a picture... but couldn't find one. :-(
Pang...
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Tamdiu discendum est, quamdiu vivas.
Seneca
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| User: "walksalone" |
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| Title: Re: Cizinc who is your unsanitary god of the day |
04 May 2007 06:06:55 PM |
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On Fri, 04 May 2007 15:12:22 -0600, Pangur Ban wrote:
walksalone responded :
Cizinc [stench]
snip additional info.
http://www.river-styx.net/mayangods.htm
I assume these two are the same god......
Given the vagrancies of the human imagination, they may be.
My reference:
Encyclopedia of Gods M. Jordan ISBN 0816029091
which is just as boring as it sounds. But the skinny on about 2500 gods
can be found there.
I was hoping for a picture... but couldn't find one. :-(
Great slathering snail trails girls, that would be cruel & Un, erm,
you were talking about cizinc I hope.
Try pantheon .org, they have a fairly extensive graphics section.
Pang...
Need more beer, more beer, or lots of coffee one.
walksalone who figures that the picture of one death god is pretty much
the same as any other death god, not someone you want to see in your
mirror.
The trace of the hand will live, but not the hand that made it.
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| User: "Pangur Ban" |
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| Title: Re: Cizinc who is your unsanitary god of the day |
05 May 2007 08:50:41 AM |
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on 5/4/2007, walksalone avouched :
On Fri, 04 May 2007 15:12:22 -0600, Pangur Ban wrote:
walksalone responded :
Cizinc [stench]
snip additional info.
http://www.river-styx.net/mayangods.htm
I assume these two are the same god......
Given the vagrancies of the human imagination, they may be.
My reference:
Encyclopedia of Gods M. Jordan ISBN 0816029091
which is just as boring as it sounds. But the skinny on about 2500 gods
can be found there.
*sigh* I must depend on what is on the internet. I assume, and if so
cannot help but envy a bit, you have the book - or at least easy access
to it.
I was hoping for a picture... but couldn't find one. :-(
Great slathering snail trails girls, that would be cruel & Un, erm,
you were talking about cizinc I hope.
ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I refuse photographs of myself to be taken.
Try pantheon .org, they have a fairly extensive graphics section.
Pang...
Need more beer, more beer, or lots of coffee one.
walksalone who figures that the picture of one death god is pretty much
the same as any other death god, not someone you want to see in your
mirror.
Muttered to myself before my first white-water rafting trip:
I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death
that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it
to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn
the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be
nothing. Only I will remain.
-- Bene Gesserit Litany against Fear, Dune
Pang - who remains :-)
The trace of the hand will live, but not the hand that made it.
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De inimico non loquaris sed cogites.
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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| Title: Re: Cizinc who is your unsanitary god of the day |
04 May 2007 01:16:27 PM |
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"walksalone" <walksalone@dastardly,dirty.deeds.done.dirt.cheap.llc> wrote in
message news:ilb7oxyr707b$.dlg@life.is.sweet...
Cizinc [stench]
Fleshless nose & lower jaw, entire head may be depicted as a skull, the
spine and rids are often showing. His collar has death eyes between
lines of hair & a long bone hangs from one earlobe. The body is painted
with black and in particular, yellow spots which is the Mayan color of
death.
Mayan Yucatec/classical Mesoamerican/Mexico
He is the most important god of death in the Mayan cultural area, he
resides in Metnal, burns the souls of the dead. This is a rather
strange procedure for initially the mouth and the ***** is burnt. When
the soul complains, he douses it with water. When the soul complains
again, he burns it again until there's absolutely nothing left. At this
point the soul is passed over to Sucunyaum. Sucunyaum then spits on his
hands then cleanses the soul. At this point the soul is free to go
where it chooses.
About fucking time!
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http//www.io.com/~dloubet
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| User: "walksalone" |
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| Title: Re: Cizinc who is your unsanitary god of the day |
04 May 2007 05:54:07 PM |
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On Fri, 4 May 2007 13:16:27 -0500, Denis Loubet wrote:
"walksalone" <walksalone@dastardly,dirty.deeds.done.dirt.cheap.llc> wrote in
message news:ilb7oxyr707b$.dlg@life.is.sweet...
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About fucking time!
Time for what? Time for a beer, I agree. Time to leave the mid-east
behind for a while, I agree. If I get no input, I don't know what people
would like to see or hear.
Would you prefer the series to be about the mid-eastern myths, how about
the Inuit.
About fucking time tells me nothing Dennis.
walksalone who will do this as he wishes, but might consider special
requests on Rare Occasion.
If he who lives by the sword shall die by the sword holds true,
then jesus the carpenter met his end properly. After all, he
was nailed to a piece of wood, wasn't he?
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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| Title: Re: Cizinc who is your unsanitary god of the day |
05 May 2007 01:10:36 AM |
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"walksalone" <walksalone@dastardly,dirty.deeds.done.dirt.cheap.llc> wrote in
message news:rd28wqrfkku3.dlg@life.is.sweet...
On Fri, 4 May 2007 13:16:27 -0500, Denis Loubet wrote:
"walksalone" <walksalone@dastardly,dirty.deeds.done.dirt.cheap.llc> wrote
in
message news:ilb7oxyr707b$.dlg@life.is.sweet...
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About fucking time!
Time for what? Time for a beer, I agree. Time to leave the mid-east
behind for a while, I agree. If I get no input, I don't know what people
would like to see or hear.
Would you prefer the series to be about the mid-eastern myths, how about
the Inuit.
About fucking time tells me nothing Dennis.
walksalone who will do this as he wishes, but might consider special
requests on Rare Occasion.
If he who lives by the sword shall die by the sword holds true,
then jesus the carpenter met his end properly. After all, he
was nailed to a piece of wood, wasn't he?
It was a punchline offered in response to the rediculous Rube Goldberg soul
cleansing process described. The process you snipped.
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
http://www.ashenempires.com
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| User: "walksalone" |
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| Title: Re: Cizinc who is your unsanitary god of the day |
05 May 2007 06:26:33 AM |
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On Sat, 5 May 2007 00:10:36 -0600, Denis Loubet wrote:
"walksalone" <walksalone@dastardly,dirty.deeds.done.dirt.cheap.llc> wrote in
message news:rd28wqrfkku3.dlg@life.is.sweet...
On Fri, 4 May 2007 13:16:27 -0500, Denis Loubet wrote:
"walksalone" <walksalone@dastardly,dirty.deeds.done.dirt.cheap.llc> wrote
in
message news:ilb7oxyr707b$.dlg@life.is.sweet...
snip
About fucking time!
Time for what? Time for a beer, I agree. Time to leave the mid-east
behind for a while, I agree. If I get no input, I don't know what people
would like to see or hear.
Would you prefer the series to be about the mid-eastern myths, how about
the Inuit.
About fucking time tells me nothing Dennis.
walksalone who will do this as he wishes, but might consider special
requests on Rare Occasion.
If he who lives by the sword shall die by the sword holds true,
then jesus the carpenter met his end properly. After all, he
was nailed to a piece of wood, wasn't he?
It was a punchline offered in response to the rediculous Rube Goldberg soul
cleansing process described. The process you snipped.
OK, I understand now. & yes, I did snip the original, after all, I was not
going to add to it, & I did mark it. Thanks for your clearing up my
confusion.
wsalksalone who still does not get the reference, but there is no need for
him to understand everything.
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Cizinc who is your unsanitary god of the day |
04 May 2007 02:45:50 PM |
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"walksalone" <walksalone@dastardly,dirty.deeds.done.dirt.cheap.llc> wrote in
message news:ilb7oxyr707b$.dlg@life.is.sweet...
Cizinc [stench]
Fleshless nose & lower jaw, entire head may be depicted as a skull, the
spine and rids are often showing. His collar has death eyes between
lines of hair & a long bone hangs from one earlobe. The body is painted
with black and in particular, yellow spots which is the Mayan color of
death.
Mayan Yucatec/classical Mesoamerican/Mexico
He is the most important god of death in the Mayan cultural area, he
resides in Metnal, burns the souls of the dead. This is a rather
strange procedure for initially the mouth and the ***** is burnt. When
the soul complains, he douses it with water. When the soul complains
again, he burns it again until there's absolutely nothing left. At this
point the soul is passed over to Sucunyaum. Sucunyaum then spits on his
hands then cleanses the soul. At this point the soul is free to go
where it chooses.
Wow - I bet he's fun at parties ;)
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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| Title: Re: Cizinc who is your unsanitary god of the day |
04 May 2007 05:23:11 PM |
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"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> writes:
"walksalone" <walksalone@dastardly,dirty.deeds.done.dirt.cheap.llc> wrote in
message news:ilb7oxyr707b$.dlg@life.is.sweet...
Cizinc [stench]
Fleshless nose & lower jaw, entire head may be depicted as a skull, the
spine and rids are often showing. His collar has death eyes between
lines of hair & a long bone hangs from one earlobe. The body is painted
with black and in particular, yellow spots which is the Mayan color of
death.
Mayan Yucatec/classical Mesoamerican/Mexico
He is the most important god of death in the Mayan cultural area, he
resides in Metnal, burns the souls of the dead. This is a rather
strange procedure for initially the mouth and the ***** is burnt. When
the soul complains, he douses it with water. When the soul complains
again, he burns it again until there's absolutely nothing left. At this
point the soul is passed over to Sucunyaum. Sucunyaum then spits on his
hands then cleanses the soul. At this point the soul is free to go
where it chooses.
Wow - I bet he's fun at parties ;)
He must have been on vacation the day Dale and I visited Chichen Itza back
when we went to Cancūn in 2000.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: San Antonio 4, Houston 2 (April 15)
NEXT GAME: October 2007, date/place/opponent TBA
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Cizinc who is your unsanitary god of the day |
04 May 2007 06:37:23 PM |
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In article <ilb7oxyr707b$.dlg@life.is.sweet>,
walksalone <walksalone@dastardly,dirty.deeds.done.dirt.cheap.llc>
wrote:
Cizinc [stench]
Fleshless nose & lower jaw, entire head may be depicted as a skull, the
spine and rids are often showing. His collar has death eyes between
lines of hair & a long bone hangs from one earlobe. The body is painted
with black and in particular, yellow spots which is the Mayan color of
death.
Mayan Yucatec/classical Mesoamerican/Mexico
He is the most important god of death in the Mayan cultural area, he
resides in Metnal, burns the souls of the dead. This is a rather
strange procedure for initially the mouth and the ***** is burnt. When
the soul complains, he douses it with water. When the soul complains
again, he burns it again until there's absolutely nothing left. At this
point the soul is passed over to Sucunyaum. Sucunyaum then spits on his
hands then cleanses the soul. At this point the soul is free to go
where it chooses.
And I thought the xtian after death rituals were weird. At least after a
while you go free.
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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