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"Neil Kelsey" |
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15 Jan 2005 08:27:44 PM |
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CleanFilms |
Further to Jason Gastrich's thread about "CleanFilms" earlier this week:
today I asked my movie producer aquaintance (Larry Sugar) if it was legal to
edit movies and rent/resell them without the permission of the movie's
produvers, and it isn't (of course). It so happens that the movie in
question, Saved!, was filmed here in Vancouver, and produced by Lions Gate
Films. I suspect CleanFilms feels they are less liable since the production
and the production company are Canadian, but they're not. This coming week
I'm going to make it my mission to find out if Lions Gate Productions is
aware of CleanFilms and what they are doing to their film. 500 bonus points
if anyone knows where the name Lions Gate comes from.
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| User: "Milan" |
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15 Jan 2005 08:35:28 PM |
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"Neil Kelsey" <neil_kelsey@telus.net> wrote in message
news:AikGd.100066$dv1.92857@edtnps89...
Further to Jason Gastrich's thread about "CleanFilms" earlier this week:
today I asked my movie producer aquaintance (Larry Sugar) if it was legal
to
edit movies and rent/resell them without the permission of the movie's
produvers, and it isn't (of course). It so happens that the movie in
question, Saved!, was filmed here in Vancouver, and produced by Lions Gate
Films. I suspect CleanFilms feels they are less liable since the
production
and the production company are Canadian, but they're not. This coming week
I'm going to make it my mission to find out if Lions Gate Productions is
aware of CleanFilms and what they are doing to their film. 500 bonus
points
if anyone knows where the name Lions Gate comes from.
I believe that in the area of the harbour in Vancouver there are two
mountains called something along the lines of the lions' ears; this has
something to do with the lions in Trafalgar Square in London. So when they
built the bridge in the harbour they called it Lions Gate.
regards
Milan
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| User: "Neil Kelsey" |
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| Title: Re: CleanFilms |
15 Jan 2005 11:11:53 PM |
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"Milan" <mtklima@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:34u2dtF4dh4s4U1@individual.net...
"Neil Kelsey" <neil_kelsey@telus.net> wrote in message
news:AikGd.100066$dv1.92857@edtnps89...
Further to Jason Gastrich's thread about "CleanFilms" earlier this week:
today I asked my movie producer aquaintance (Larry Sugar) if it was legal
to
edit movies and rent/resell them without the permission of the movie's
produvers, and it isn't (of course). It so happens that the movie in
question, Saved!, was filmed here in Vancouver, and produced by Lions
Gate
Films. I suspect CleanFilms feels they are less liable since the
production
and the production company are Canadian, but they're not. This coming
week
I'm going to make it my mission to find out if Lions Gate Productions is
aware of CleanFilms and what they are doing to their film. 500 bonus
points
if anyone knows where the name Lions Gate comes from.
I believe that in the area of the harbour in Vancouver there are two
mountains called something along the lines of the lions' ears; this has
something to do with the lions in Trafalgar Square in London. So when they
built the bridge in the harbour they called it Lions Gate.
you get 473 points
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| User: "kathryn" |
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| Title: Re: CleanFilms |
16 Jan 2005 08:30:54 AM |
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"Neil Kelsey" <neil_kelsey@telus.net> wrote in message
news:AikGd.100066$dv1.92857@edtnps89...
Further to Jason Gastrich's thread about "CleanFilms" earlier this week:
today I asked my movie producer aquaintance (Larry Sugar) if it was legal
to edit movies and rent/resell them without the permission of the movie's
produvers, and it isn't (of course). It so happens that the movie in
question, Saved!, was filmed here in Vancouver, and produced by Lions Gate
Films. I suspect CleanFilms feels they are less liable since the
production and the production company are Canadian, but they're not. This
coming week I'm going to make it my mission to find out if Lions Gate
Productions is aware of CleanFilms and what they are doing to their film.
500 bonus points if anyone knows where the name Lions Gate comes from.
No idea...
I do however find it excessively ironic that while cleanfilms objects to
"bad language" and sex scenes they have no problems charging people for
something illegal
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| User: "rj" |
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16 Jan 2005 08:43:29 AM |
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"kathryn" <bob@bobbybobbobthebobster.com> wrote in news:csdtqu$pv4$1@titan.btinternet.com:
"Neil Kelsey" <neil_kelsey@telus.net> wrote in message
news:AikGd.100066$dv1.92857@edtnps89...
Further to Jason Gastrich's thread about "CleanFilms" earlier this week:
today I asked my movie producer aquaintance (Larry Sugar) if it was legal
to edit movies and rent/resell them without the permission of the movie's
produvers, and it isn't (of course). It so happens that the movie in
question, Saved!, was filmed here in Vancouver, and produced by Lions Gate
Films. I suspect CleanFilms feels they are less liable since the
production and the production company are Canadian, but they're not. This
coming week I'm going to make it my mission to find out if Lions Gate
Productions is aware of CleanFilms and what they are doing to their film.
500 bonus points if anyone knows where the name Lions Gate comes from.
No idea...
I do however find it excessively ironic that while cleanfilms objects to
"bad language" and sex scenes they have no problems charging people for
something illegal
But lying, cheating, stealing, vandalism, and murder is all OK as long as you do it in the
name of Jesus.
www.armyofgod.com is a prime example.
rj
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| User: "kathryn" |
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| Title: Re: CleanFilms |
16 Jan 2005 09:56:40 AM |
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"rj" <rj@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Xns95E058C10821Dbvzxrpl@10.232.1.1...
"kathryn" <bob@bobbybobbobthebobster.com> wrote in
news:csdtqu$pv4$1@titan.btinternet.com:
"Neil Kelsey" <neil_kelsey@telus.net> wrote in message
news:AikGd.100066$dv1.92857@edtnps89...
Further to Jason Gastrich's thread about "CleanFilms" earlier this week:
today I asked my movie producer aquaintance (Larry Sugar) if it was
legal
to edit movies and rent/resell them without the permission of the
movie's
produvers, and it isn't (of course). It so happens that the movie in
question, Saved!, was filmed here in Vancouver, and produced by Lions
Gate
Films. I suspect CleanFilms feels they are less liable since the
production and the production company are Canadian, but they're not.
This
coming week I'm going to make it my mission to find out if Lions Gate
Productions is aware of CleanFilms and what they are doing to their
film.
500 bonus points if anyone knows where the name Lions Gate comes from.
No idea...
I do however find it excessively ironic that while cleanfilms objects to
"bad language" and sex scenes they have no problems charging people for
something illegal
But lying, cheating, stealing, vandalism, and murder is all OK as long as
you do it in the
name of Jesus.
www.armyofgod.com is a prime example.
rj
The killing thing I never got since the commandment says "thou shalt not
kill" not "thou shalt not kill except when........"
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| User: "rj" |
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17 Jan 2005 07:56:03 AM |
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"kathryn" <bob@bobbybobbobthebobster.com> wrote in
news:cse2ro$8bh$1@sparta.btinternet.com:
"rj" <rj@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Xns95E058C10821Dbvzxrpl@10.232.1.1...
"kathryn" <bob@bobbybobbobthebobster.com> wrote in
news:csdtqu$pv4$1@titan.btinternet.com:
"Neil Kelsey" <neil_kelsey@telus.net> wrote in message
news:AikGd.100066$dv1.92857@edtnps89...
Further to Jason Gastrich's thread about "CleanFilms" earlier this
week: today I asked my movie producer aquaintance (Larry Sugar) if it
was legal
to edit movies and rent/resell them without the permission of the
movie's
produvers, and it isn't (of course). It so happens that the movie in
question, Saved!, was filmed here in Vancouver, and produced by Lions
Gate
Films. I suspect CleanFilms feels they are less liable since the
production and the production company are Canadian, but they're not.
This
coming week I'm going to make it my mission to find out if Lions Gate
Productions is aware of CleanFilms and what they are doing to their
film.
500 bonus points if anyone knows where the name Lions Gate comes
from.
No idea...
I do however find it excessively ironic that while cleanfilms objects
to "bad language" and sex scenes they have no problems charging people
for something illegal
But lying, cheating, stealing, vandalism, and murder is all OK as long
as you do it in the
name of Jesus.
www.armyofgod.com is a prime example.
rj
The killing thing I never got since the commandment says "thou shalt not
kill" not "thou shalt not kill except when........"
Same applies to capital punishment. When is it right to take another
person's life? Self defense? Possibly, provided that one's life is in
peril. There might be other examples but execution is neither moral or
right. Not ever. But, if you ask the majority of self proclaimed Xtians
they support the death penalty. Their hypocricy is revolting. Xtians
love revenge despite the fact that it is written in their book "revenge is
mine sayeth the lord". Hypocrites! And then they have the gall to call
atheists "liars" when they live one lie after another.
r
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| User: "Walter Bushell" |
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| Title: Re: CleanFilms |
21 Jan 2005 06:22:11 AM |
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In article <cse2ro$8bh$1@sparta.btinternet.com>,
"kathryn" <bob@bobbybobbobthebobster.com> wrote:
"rj" <rj@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Xns95E058C10821Dbvzxrpl@10.232.1.1...
"kathryn" <bob@bobbybobbobthebobster.com> wrote in
news:csdtqu$pv4$1@titan.btinternet.com:
"Neil Kelsey" <neil_kelsey@telus.net> wrote in message
news:AikGd.100066$dv1.92857@edtnps89...
Further to Jason Gastrich's thread about "CleanFilms" earlier this week:
today I asked my movie producer aquaintance (Larry Sugar) if it was
legal
to edit movies and rent/resell them without the permission of the
movie's
produvers, and it isn't (of course). It so happens that the movie in
question, Saved!, was filmed here in Vancouver, and produced by Lions
Gate
Films. I suspect CleanFilms feels they are less liable since the
production and the production company are Canadian, but they're not.
This
coming week I'm going to make it my mission to find out if Lions Gate
Productions is aware of CleanFilms and what they are doing to their
film.
500 bonus points if anyone knows where the name Lions Gate comes from.
No idea...
I do however find it excessively ironic that while cleanfilms objects to
"bad language" and sex scenes they have no problems charging people for
something illegal
But lying, cheating, stealing, vandalism, and murder is all OK as long as
you do it in the
name of Jesus.
www.armyofgod.com is a prime example.
rj
The killing thing I never got since the commandment says "thou shalt not
kill" not "thou shalt not kill except when........"
Now that was cleared up by Moses, himself. He had a man executed for
picking up sticks on the Sabbath. Or so the story goes.
--
Guns don't kill people; automobiles kill people.
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| User: "rj" |
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| Title: Re: CleanFilms |
24 Jan 2005 12:27:33 PM |
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Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> wrote in news:proto-8E54EF.07221121012005
@reader2.panix.com:
The killing thing I never got since the commandment says "thou shalt not
kill" not "thou shalt not kill except when........"
Now that was cleared up by Moses, himself. He had a man executed for
picking up sticks on the Sabbath. Or so the story goes.
Killing someone for picking up some sticks certainly makes sense....not!
Reminds me of Marcellas Wallace throwing a guy out the 2nd story window
because the guy was giving his wife a foot massage.
rj
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| User: "RainLover" |
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20 Jan 2005 09:49:30 AM |
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On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 15:56:40 +0000 (UTC), "kathryn"
<bob@bobbybobbobthebobster.com> wrote:
"rj" <rj@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Xns95E058C10821Dbvzxrpl@10.232.1.1...
"kathryn" <bob@bobbybobbobthebobster.com> wrote in
news:csdtqu$pv4$1@titan.btinternet.com:
"Neil Kelsey" <neil_kelsey@telus.net> wrote in message
news:AikGd.100066$dv1.92857@edtnps89...
Further to Jason Gastrich's thread about "CleanFilms" earlier this week:
today I asked my movie producer aquaintance (Larry Sugar) if it was
legal
to edit movies and rent/resell them without the permission of the
movie's
produvers, and it isn't (of course). It so happens that the movie in
question, Saved!, was filmed here in Vancouver, and produced by Lions
Gate
Films. I suspect CleanFilms feels they are less liable since the
production and the production company are Canadian, but they're not.
This
coming week I'm going to make it my mission to find out if Lions Gate
Productions is aware of CleanFilms and what they are doing to their
film.
500 bonus points if anyone knows where the name Lions Gate comes from.
No idea...
I do however find it excessively ironic that while cleanfilms objects to
"bad language" and sex scenes they have no problems charging people for
something illegal
But lying, cheating, stealing, vandalism, and murder is all OK as long as
you do it in the
name of Jesus.
www.armyofgod.com is a prime example.
rj
The killing thing I never got since the commandment says "thou shalt not
kill" not "thou shalt not kill except when........"
Some Christians got around that little SNAFU by saying "Oh, it's not
KILL, it's "murder", which allows them to kill tons of people as long
as it's not illegal or some such thing... although I've never
understood how a government saying it wasn't illegal made it so in
Gods eyes while at the EXACT same time, 'adultry' which isn't a crime
in the USA (yet) remain against the comandments of the christian god.
James, Seattle
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| User: "nJb" |
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21 Jan 2005 01:18:18 AM |
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RainLover wrote:
On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 15:56:40 +0000 (UTC), "kathryn"
<bob@bobbybobbobthebobster.com> wrote:
"rj" <rj@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Xns95E058C10821Dbvzxrpl@10.232.1.1...
"kathryn" <bob@bobbybobbobthebobster.com> wrote in
news:csdtqu$pv4$1@titan.btinternet.com:
"Neil Kelsey" <neil_kelsey@telus.net> wrote in message
news:AikGd.100066$dv1.92857@edtnps89...
Further to Jason Gastrich's thread about "CleanFilms" earlier this week:
today I asked my movie producer aquaintance (Larry Sugar) if it was
legal
to edit movies and rent/resell them without the permission of the
movie's
produvers, and it isn't (of course). It so happens that the movie in
question, Saved!, was filmed here in Vancouver, and produced by Lions
Gate
Films. I suspect CleanFilms feels they are less liable since the
production and the production company are Canadian, but they're not.
This
coming week I'm going to make it my mission to find out if Lions Gate
Productions is aware of CleanFilms and what they are doing to their
film.
500 bonus points if anyone knows where the name Lions Gate comes from.
No idea...
I do however find it excessively ironic that while cleanfilms objects to
"bad language" and sex scenes they have no problems charging people for
something illegal
But lying, cheating, stealing, vandalism, and murder is all OK as long as
you do it in the
name of Jesus.
www.armyofgod.com is a prime example.
rj
The killing thing I never got since the commandment says "thou shalt not
kill" not "thou shalt not kill except when........"
Some Christians got around that little SNAFU by saying "Oh, it's not
KILL, it's "murder", which allows them to kill tons of people as long
as it's not illegal or some such thing... although I've never
understood how a government saying it wasn't illegal made it so in
Gods eyes while at the EXACT same time, 'adultry' which isn't a crime
in the USA (yet) remain against the comandments of the christian god.
James, Seattle
I believe adultery is illegal in a few states. Blow jobs and the much
more enjoyable Consumption of the Whisker Biscuit, are illegal in Utah
unless you're married... to each other.
Jack
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| User: "Ash" |
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16 Jan 2005 11:11:22 AM |
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kathryn wrote:
The killing thing I never got since the commandment says "thou shalt not
kill" not "thou shalt not kill except when........"
I never got how it is an absolute rule when it comes to abortion, but
means "you shall not kill unless the law says you can" when it comes to
killing they approve of
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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16 Jan 2005 08:21:05 PM |
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On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:11:22 +0000, Ash
<ashamanic@winterfell73.fsnet.co.uk> said in alt.atheism:
kathryn wrote:
The killing thing I never got since the commandment says "thou shalt not
kill" not "thou shalt not kill except when........"
I never got how it is an absolute rule when it comes to abortion, but
means "you shall not kill unless the law says you can" when it comes to
killing they approve of
1) The law doesn't prohibit killing, it prohibits the killing of a
person.
2) A fetus, not being a corporate person or a natural (born) person,
isn't a person.
3) Therefore, killing a fetus isn't, per se, against the law, which
killing a person would be.
4) Your bible has the same opinion - killing a fetus, against the will
of the father (women had no rights), is a CIVIL tort against the
father, not a crime, which killing the woman would be.
The laws of MOST countries recognize rights as being given to those
outside the womb, not those in the womb.
--
Zymurgist # 2
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at verizon dot net
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| User: "Ash" |
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17 Jan 2005 02:50:18 AM |
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Al Klein wrote:
On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:11:22 +0000, Ash
<ashamanic@winterfell73.fsnet.co.uk> said in alt.atheism:
kathryn wrote:
The killing thing I never got since the commandment says "thou shalt not
kill" not "thou shalt not kill except when........"
I never got how it is an absolute rule when it comes to abortion, but
means "you shall not kill unless the law says you can" when it comes to
killing they approve of
1) The law doesn't prohibit killing, it prohibits the killing of a
person.
2) A fetus, not being a corporate person or a natural (born) person,
isn't a person.
3) Therefore, killing a fetus isn't, per se, against the law, which
killing a person would be.
4) Your bible has the same opinion - killing a fetus, against the will
of the father (women had no rights), is a CIVIL tort against the
father, not a crime, which killing the woman would be.
The laws of MOST countries recognize rights as being given to those
outside the womb, not those in the womb.
I might be missing something there, but that doesn't seem to explain
tehri justification
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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17 Jan 2005 02:56:25 PM |
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On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 08:50:18 +0000, Ash
<ashamanic@winterfell73.fsnet.co.uk> said in alt.atheism:
Al Klein wrote:
The laws of MOST countries recognize rights as being given to those
outside the womb, not those in the womb.
I might be missing something there, but that doesn't seem to explain
tehri justification
"Tehri"? I can't address what I don't understand.
--
"...I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do.
When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand
why I dismiss yours."
- Stephen F. Roberts
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at verizon dot net
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| User: "Ash" |
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17 Jan 2005 04:55:39 PM |
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Al Klein wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 08:50:18 +0000, Ash
<ashamanic@winterfell73.fsnet.co.uk> said in alt.atheism:
Al Klein wrote:
The laws of MOST countries recognize rights as being given to those
outside the womb, not those in the womb.
I might be missing something there, but that doesn't seem to explain
tehri justification
"Tehri"? I can't address what I don't understand.
their
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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17 Jan 2005 07:17:57 PM |
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On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:55:39 +0000, Ash
<ashamanic@winterfell73.fsnet.co.uk> said in alt.atheism:
Al Klein wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 08:50:18 +0000, Ash
<ashamanic@winterfell73.fsnet.co.uk> said in alt.atheism:
Al Klein wrote:
The laws of MOST countries recognize rights as being given to those
outside the womb, not those in the womb.
I might be missing something there, but that doesn't seem to explain
tehri justification
"Tehri"? I can't address what I don't understand.
their
Oh.
None whatsoever. Arbitrary limits have to be set, and the arbitrary
state of "personhood" has been set, in most countries, as being at
birth. It's an easy to determine limit, and it appears to be a usable
one.
In the past societies set the limit at 1 year of age, or 2 years, etc.
--
"I received your letter of June 10th. I have never talked to a Jesuit
priest in my life and I am astonished by the audacity to tell such lies
about me. From the viewpoint of a Jesuit priest I am, of course, and
have always been an atheist."
- Albert Einstein to Guy H. Raner Jr, July 2, 1945,
responding to a rumor that a Jesuit priest had caused Einstein
to convert from atheism. Article by Michael R. Gilmore in Skeptic
magazine, Vol. 5, No. 2, 1997
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at verizon dot net
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| User: "Walter Bushell" |
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21 Jan 2005 06:32:34 AM |
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In article <fpoou0pn24e10qdmbq2ggn768n1c8s2f1k@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:55:39 +0000, Ash
<ashamanic@winterfell73.fsnet.co.uk> said in alt.atheism:
Al Klein wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 08:50:18 +0000, Ash
<ashamanic@winterfell73.fsnet.co.uk> said in alt.atheism:
Al Klein wrote:
The laws of MOST countries recognize rights as being given to those
outside the womb, not those in the womb.
I might be missing something there, but that doesn't seem to explain
tehri justification
"Tehri"? I can't address what I don't understand.
their
Oh.
None whatsoever. Arbitrary limits have to be set, and the arbitrary
state of "personhood" has been set, in most countries, as being at
birth. It's an easy to determine limit, and it appears to be a usable
one.
In the past societies set the limit at 1 year of age, or 2 years, etc.
I feudal Japan, among the peasant class, it was when the baby was named,
or so I've heard. The tradition continues among farmers to this day, not
to name animals they intend to kill.
I do think human beings are born premature, and in fact have to learn
how to be human from the culture around them.
--
Guns don't kill people; automobiles kill people.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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21 Jan 2005 03:08:26 PM |
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On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 07:32:34 -0500, Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com>
said in alt.atheism:
I feudal Japan, among the peasant class, it was when the baby was named,
or so I've heard. The tradition continues among farmers to this day, not
to name animals they intend to kill.
I think there was also a Japanese tradition of considering a baby to
be 9 months old on the day it was born. This may be an urban legend,
but I think I heard it somewhere.
I do think human beings are born premature,
Oh, absolutely, when compared to most other mammals.
and in fact have to learn how to be human from the culture around them.
Most animals do. Very few species have so little culture that their
young are born "knowing" all they need to know.
--
"I received your letter of June 10th. I have never talked to a Jesuit
priest in my life and I am astonished by the audacity to tell such lies
about me. From the viewpoint of a Jesuit priest I am, of course, and
have always been an atheist."
- Albert Einstein to Guy H. Raner Jr, July 2, 1945,
responding to a rumor that a Jesuit priest had caused Einstein
to convert from atheism. Article by Michael R. Gilmore in Skeptic
magazine, Vol. 5, No. 2, 1997
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at verizon dot net
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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15 Jan 2005 09:01:24 PM |
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In our last episode <AikGd.100066$dv1.92857@edtnps89>, Neil Kelsey lept
out of the bushes shouting:
Further to Jason Gastrich's thread about "CleanFilms" earlier this week:
today I asked my movie producer aquaintance (Larry Sugar) if it was legal
to edit movies and rent/resell them without the permission of the movie's
produvers, and it isn't (of course). It so happens that the movie in
question, Saved!, was filmed here in Vancouver, and produced by Lions Gate
Films. I suspect CleanFilms feels they are less liable since the
production and the production company are Canadian, but they're not. This
coming week I'm going to make it my mission to find out if Lions Gate
Productions is aware of CleanFilms and what they are doing to their film.
500 bonus points if anyone knows where the name Lions Gate comes from.
You know there's a big lawsuit by the DGA to put a stop to the practice
right?
I believe it started in 2002 and is *still going...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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| User: "Neil Kelsey" |
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| Title: Re: CleanFilms |
15 Jan 2005 11:10:42 PM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:esednYyFFfpGSnTcRVn-sQ@megapath.net...
In our last episode <AikGd.100066$dv1.92857@edtnps89>, Neil Kelsey lept
out of the bushes shouting:
Further to Jason Gastrich's thread about "CleanFilms" earlier this week:
today I asked my movie producer aquaintance (Larry Sugar) if it was legal
to edit movies and rent/resell them without the permission of the movie's
produvers, and it isn't (of course). It so happens that the movie in
question, Saved!, was filmed here in Vancouver, and produced by Lions
Gate
Films. I suspect CleanFilms feels they are less liable since the
production and the production company are Canadian, but they're not. This
coming week I'm going to make it my mission to find out if Lions Gate
Productions is aware of CleanFilms and what they are doing to their film.
500 bonus points if anyone knows where the name Lions Gate comes from.
You know there's a big lawsuit by the DGA to put a stop to the practice
right?
What is the DGA? I've hear of a lawsuit, you guys were talking about it, but
I want to know that Lions Gate is in on it because of this specific film
I believe it started in 2002 and is *still going...
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Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: CleanFilms |
15 Jan 2005 11:26:49 PM |
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In our last episode <mHmGd.84025$nN6.66336@edtnps84>, Neil Kelsey lept out
of the bushes shouting:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:esednYyFFfpGSnTcRVn-sQ@megapath.net...
In our last episode <AikGd.100066$dv1.92857@edtnps89>, Neil Kelsey lept
out of the bushes shouting:
Further to Jason Gastrich's thread about "CleanFilms" earlier this
week: today I asked my movie producer aquaintance (Larry Sugar) if it
was legal to edit movies and rent/resell them without the permission of
the movie's produvers, and it isn't (of course). It so happens that the
movie in question, Saved!, was filmed here in Vancouver, and produced
by Lions Gate
Films. I suspect CleanFilms feels they are less liable since the
production and the production company are Canadian, but they're not.
This coming week I'm going to make it my mission to find out if Lions
Gate Productions is aware of CleanFilms and what they are doing to
their film. 500 bonus points if anyone knows where the name Lions Gate
comes from.
You know there's a big lawsuit by the DGA to put a stop to the practice
right?
What is the DGA? I've hear of a lawsuit, you guys were talking about it,
but I want to know that Lions Gate is in on it because of this specific
film
Director's Guild of America. They're taking "point" on this one. <g>
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
-- Seneca the Younger
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| User: "nJb" |
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| Title: Re: CleanFilms |
15 Jan 2005 10:39:17 PM |
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Neil Kelsey wrote:
Further to Jason Gastrich's thread about "CleanFilms" earlier this week:
today I asked my movie producer aquaintance (Larry Sugar) if it was legal to
edit movies and rent/resell them without the permission of the movie's
produvers, and it isn't (of course). It so happens that the movie in
question, Saved!, was filmed here in Vancouver, and produced by Lions Gate
Films. I suspect CleanFilms feels they are less liable since the production
and the production company are Canadian, but they're not. This coming week
I'm going to make it my mission to find out if Lions Gate Productions is
aware of CleanFilms and what they are doing to their film. 500 bonus points
if anyone knows where the name Lions Gate comes from.
You have no idea what kind of scum you are dealing with. I wish you
luck.
The most beautiful bridge I have been over.
How about those Nucks? Haven't lost a game all year.
--
Jack in Utah
"The story of what we've done in the postwar
period is remarkable...
It is a better and more important story than
losing a couple of soldiers every day."
Republican U.S. Rep. George Nethercutt, Oct 13, 2003
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| User: "Neil Kelsey" |
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| Title: Re: CleanFilms |
15 Jan 2005 11:08:58 PM |
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"nJb" <NoNHL@all.com> wrote in message news:41E9EFF5.C56442BD@all.com...
Neil Kelsey wrote:
Further to Jason Gastrich's thread about "CleanFilms" earlier this week:
today I asked my movie producer aquaintance (Larry Sugar) if it was legal
to
edit movies and rent/resell them without the permission of the movie's
produvers, and it isn't (of course). It so happens that the movie in
question, Saved!, was filmed here in Vancouver, and produced by Lions
Gate
Films. I suspect CleanFilms feels they are less liable since the
production
and the production company are Canadian, but they're not. This coming
week
I'm going to make it my mission to find out if Lions Gate Productions is
aware of CleanFilms and what they are doing to their film. 500 bonus
points
if anyone knows where the name Lions Gate comes from.
You have no idea what kind of scum you are dealing with. I wish you
luck.
Lions Gate Films can deal with it (or not), I'm just going to ask if they
are aware of it.
The most beautiful bridge I have been over.
How about those Nucks? Haven't lost a game all year.
*sob*
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| User: "nJb" |
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| Title: Re: CleanFilms |
16 Jan 2005 11:28:53 PM |
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Neil Kelsey wrote:
"nJb" <NoNHL@all.com> wrote in message news:41E9EFF5.C56442BD@all.com...
Neil Kelsey wrote:
Further to Jason Gastrich's thread about "CleanFilms" earlier this week:
today I asked my movie producer aquaintance (Larry Sugar) if it was legal
to
edit movies and rent/resell them without the permission of the movie's
produvers, and it isn't (of course). It so happens that the movie in
question, Saved!, was filmed here in Vancouver, and produced by Lions
Gate
Films. I suspect CleanFilms feels they are less liable since the
production
and the production company are Canadian, but they're not. This coming
week
I'm going to make it my mission to find out if Lions Gate Productions is
aware of CleanFilms and what they are doing to their film. 500 bonus
points
if anyone knows where the name Lions Gate comes from.
You have no idea what kind of scum you are dealing with. I wish you
luck.
Lions Gate Films can deal with it (or not), I'm just going to ask if they
are aware of it.
The most beautiful bridge I have been over.
How about those Nucks? Haven't lost a game all year.
*sob*
Seems I haven't seen you around ashnvc lately. Not much going on there.
Still my favorite hockey group.
Jack
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| User: "Neil Kelsey" |
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| Title: Re: CleanFilms |
17 Jan 2005 08:20:15 PM |
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"nJb" <NoNHL@all.com> wrote in message news:41EB4D15.62B371E4@all.com...
Neil Kelsey wrote:
"nJb" <NoNHL@all.com> wrote in message news:41E9EFF5.C56442BD@all.com...
Neil Kelsey wrote:
Further to Jason Gastrich's thread about "CleanFilms" earlier this
week:
today I asked my movie producer aquaintance (Larry Sugar) if it was
legal
to
edit movies and rent/resell them without the permission of the movie's
produvers, and it isn't (of course). It so happens that the movie in
question, Saved!, was filmed here in Vancouver, and produced by Lions
Gate
Films. I suspect CleanFilms feels they are less liable since the
production
and the production company are Canadian, but they're not. This coming
week
I'm going to make it my mission to find out if Lions Gate Productions
is
aware of CleanFilms and what they are doing to their film. 500 bonus
points
if anyone knows where the name Lions Gate comes from.
You have no idea what kind of scum you are dealing with. I wish you
luck.
Lions Gate Films can deal with it (or not), I'm just going to ask if they
are aware of it.
The most beautiful bridge I have been over.
How about those Nucks? Haven't lost a game all year.
*sob*
Seems I haven't seen you around ashnvc lately. Not much going on there.
Still my favorite hockey group.
Jack
Oh! You're the same njb...how's going? Yeah, I can't talk hockey if there's
no hockey to talk about. I love the GAME, not the business. But I think the
lockout is something that had to happen, just wake me up when it's over. The
one sad thing is the two times in their miserable existence that Vancouver's
actually had a good team, there's been a strike. I can't see them being as
good next year, after they lose Naslund. Oh, and what's happened to
Asianflow?
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| User: "nJb" |
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| Title: Re: CleanFilms |
17 Jan 2005 10:59:09 PM |
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Neil Kelsey wrote:
Oh! You're the same njb...how's going? Yeah, I can't talk hockey if there's
no hockey to talk about. I love the GAME, not the business. But I think the
lockout is something that had to happen, just wake me up when it's over. The
one sad thing is the two times in their miserable existence that Vancouver's
actually had a good team, there's been a strike. I can't see them being as
good next year, after they lose Naslund. Oh, and what's happened to
Asianflow?
Haven't seen AF, db, Lonnie, and I'm sure there are others. Some that
are less familiar to me will be remembered when they come back. I've
only been in there around 2-1/2 years. Came in for revenge when John
Joot came trolling my beloved Red Wings ng. Was amazed that out of all
those people in there only one went out trolling. Stayed around and
found some great people.
I figure the Wings big run will be over when things are settled. Be
interesting to see who rises to the top.
Jack
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| User: "Neil Kelsey" |
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| Title: Re: CleanFilms |
17 Jan 2005 11:49:21 PM |
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"nJb" <NoNHL@all.com> wrote in message news:41EC979D.AC1797EA@all.com...
Neil Kelsey wrote:
Oh! You're the same njb...how's going? Yeah, I can't talk hockey if
there's
no hockey to talk about. I love the GAME, not the business. But I think
the
lockout is something that had to happen, just wake me up when it's over.
The
one sad thing is the two times in their miserable existence that
Vancouver's
actually had a good team, there's been a strike. I can't see them being
as
good next year, after they lose Naslund. Oh, and what's happened to
Asianflow?
Haven't seen AF, db, Lonnie, and I'm sure there are others. Some that
are less familiar to me will be remembered when they come back. I've
only been in there around 2-1/2 years. Came in for revenge when John
Joot came trolling my beloved Red Wings ng. Was amazed that out of all
those people in there only one went out trolling. Stayed around and
found some great people.
I figure the Wings big run will be over when things are settled. Be
interesting to see who rises to the top.
So you're from Detroit and moved to Utah? How do you get your hockey fix (at
least when there IS hockey)? And how/when did you find this group? (This
group is pretty entertaining too, I think)
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| User: "nJb" |
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18 Jan 2005 02:25:52 AM |
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Neil Kelsey wrote:
So you're from Detroit and moved to Utah? How do you get your hockey fix (at
least when there IS hockey)? And how/when did you find this group? (This
group is pretty entertaining too, I think)
I get Centre Ice when they're playing. Get almost every game. 5pm till
11pm most nights.
I came to this group when I first got online around 8-9 years ago. Was
overwhelmed by so many posts. With no hockey and the sad state of the
xians trying to turn the US into a xian version of Iran, I dropped in a
couple of months back. Very entertaining. Living in Utah probably has
something to do with it.
Jack
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| User: "Liquid Grace" |
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18 Jan 2005 03:17:17 AM |
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In article <41ECC810.851A2EA0@all.com>, leapt about on one
foot, screaching...
Neil Kelsey wrote:
So you're from Detroit and moved to Utah? How do you get your hockey fix (at
least when there IS hockey)? And how/when did you find this group? (This
group is pretty entertaining too, I think)
I get Centre Ice when they're playing. Get almost every game. 5pm till
11pm most nights.
I came to this group when I first got online around 8-9 years ago. Was
overwhelmed by so many posts. With no hockey and the sad state of the
xians trying to turn the US into a xian version of Iran, I dropped in a
couple of months back. Very entertaining. Living in Utah probably has
something to do with it.
Jack
At least when there's hockey you can have Centre Ice. Try living in
Australia. :( :(
Let's Go Red Wings....*sigh*
Grace
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EAC Vile Harridan and Deranged Harpy
a.a. #1752, BAAWA Knight who Demands Shrubbery!
Lost In Oz....
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| User: "nJb" |
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19 Jan 2005 01:53:15 AM |
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Liquid Grace wrote:
In article <41ECC810.851A2EA0@all.com>, leapt about on one
foot, screaching...
Neil Kelsey wrote:
So you're from Detroit and moved to Utah? How do you get your hockey fix (at
least when there IS hockey)? And how/when did you find this group? (This
group is pretty entertaining too, I think)
I get Centre Ice when they're playing. Get almost every game. 5pm till
11pm most nights.
I came to this group when I first got online around 8-9 years ago. Was
overwhelmed by so many posts. With no hockey and the sad state of the
xians trying to turn the US into a xian version of Iran, I dropped in a
couple of months back. Very entertaining. Living in Utah probably has
something to do with it.
Jack
At least when there's hockey you can have Centre Ice. Try living in
Australia. :( :(
Let's Go Red Wings....*sigh*
Grace
You sound like a Wings fan. How so?
I'd love to try living in Australia. Any suggestions?
Jack
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