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Clinton wants to head the U.N. (Hjarf alert) |
http://tinyurl.com/4cgrn
Analysis: Clinton eyes U.N. post
By ROLAND FLAMINI, UPI Chief International Correspondent
WASHINGTON, Oct. 20 (UPI) -- Former U.S. President Bill Clinton has set his
sights on becoming U.N. secretary-general. A Clinton insider and a senior
U.N. source have told United Press International the 56-year-old former
president would like to be named leader of the world body when Kofi Annan's
term ends early in 2006.
"He definitely wants to do it," the Clinton insider said this week.
A Clinton candidacy is likely to receive overwhelming support from U.N.
member states, particularly the Third World. Diplomats in Washington say
Clinton would galvanize the United Nations and give an enormous boost to its
prestige. But the former president's hopes hang on a crucial question that
will not be addressed until after the presidential elections: can he get the
support of the U.S. government -- a prerequisite for nomination?
The political wisdom is that a second George W. Bush presidency would cut
him off at the pass. The notion of Clinton looming large in the
international arena from "the glass tower" in New York would be intolerable
to the Bush White House. If Democratic candidate, Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass.,
wins on Nov. 2 the prospect of Clinton as secretary-general won't exactly be
welcome either, but Kerry would find it much harder -- if not impossible --
to go against it.
After a Middle East U.N. Secretary General (Boutros Boutros Ghali) and an
African (Kofi Annan) it is generally considered Asia's turn to fill the
post, U.N. experts say. No announcement has been made, but behind the scenes
China is already pushing the candidacy of Thai Foreign Minister Surakiart
Sathirathai, who also seems to have U.S. support. If Clinton does emerge as
a candidate, however, China would most likely shift its support, the experts
say.
No American has ever been U.N. secretary-general, but the United States is
both host country to the United Nations and the major contributor to its
budget. A hostile U.S. Congress held up its dues for years -- until the
Clinton administration negotiated a payment plan for Washington's arrears.
Clinton also revived U.S. membership of UNESCO though the Americans did not
actually move back into their offices at the Paris-based scientific and
cultural U.N. agency until after the start of the Bush presidency.
President Reagan had taken the United States out of UNESCO in protest
against alleged corruption by former top agency officials.
Clinton is currently recovering from the heart bypass surgery he had to
undergo last month, and this has kept him away from the Kerry campaign after
a few initial support appearances. The former president has told friends and
Kerry staffers he plans to resume campaigning for Kerry, but on a limited
scale because his recovery has been gradual. He has talked of his interest
in taking over at the United Nations since the publication of his
commercially successful autobiography, which he recently said had sold 1.9
million copies. Writing the book kept him busy after leaving office in 2000,
but he is now ready to channel his considerable political skills and energy
into another role in public life.
There had been rumors that he would run the Third Way organization, the
world Social Democratic movement he had talked of launching together with
British Prime Minister Tony Blair and German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder.
But the political alliance had come unstuck and the idea ran out of steam
partly because Blair and Schroeder found themselves on opposite sides in the
Bush-led Iraq war.
Putting Clinton in charge of the United Nations would be a real test of
international intentions, observers say.
"Critics of the U.N. complain that it's an organization without the muscle
and will to put its decisions into effect," the U.N. source observed.
"There's a good chance that Clinton could significantly change that
situation, and then we'll see if the critics mean what they say."
Copyright 2004 by United Press International.
All rights reserved.
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22 Oct 2004 04:48:23 PM |
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"I Cap'n TrVth" <IcapntrVth@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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http://tinyurl.com/4cgrn
Analysis: Clinton eyes U.N. post
By ROLAND FLAMINI, UPI Chief International Correspondent
WASHINGTON, Oct. 20 (UPI) -- Former U.S. President Bill Clinton has set
his
sights on becoming U.N. secretary-general. A Clinton insider and a senior
U.N. source have told United Press International the 56-year-old former
president would like to be named leader of the world body when Kofi
Annan's
term ends early in 2006.
"He definitely wants to do it," the Clinton insider said this week.
A Clinton candidacy is likely to receive overwhelming support from U.N.
member states, particularly the Third World. Diplomats in Washington say
Clinton would galvanize the United Nations and give an enormous boost to
its
prestige. But the former president's hopes hang on a crucial question that
will not be addressed until after the presidential elections: can he get
the
support of the U.S. government -- a prerequisite for nomination?
The political wisdom is that a second George W. Bush presidency would cut
him off at the pass. The notion of Clinton looming large in the
international arena from "the glass tower" in New York would be
intolerable
to the Bush White House. If Democratic candidate, Sen. John Kerry,
D-Mass.,
wins on Nov. 2 the prospect of Clinton as secretary-general won't exactly
be
welcome either, but Kerry would find it much harder -- if not
impossible --
to go against it.
After a Middle East U.N. Secretary General (Boutros Boutros Ghali) and an
African (Kofi Annan) it is generally considered Asia's turn to fill the
post, U.N. experts say. No announcement has been made, but behind the
scenes
China is already pushing the candidacy of Thai Foreign Minister Surakiart
Sathirathai, who also seems to have U.S. support. If Clinton does emerge
as
a candidate, however, China would most likely shift its support, the
experts
say.
No American has ever been U.N. secretary-general, but the United States is
both host country to the United Nations and the major contributor to its
budget. A hostile U.S. Congress held up its dues for years -- until the
Clinton administration negotiated a payment plan for Washington's arrears.
Clinton also revived U.S. membership of UNESCO though the Americans did
not
actually move back into their offices at the Paris-based scientific and
cultural U.N. agency until after the start of the Bush presidency.
President Reagan had taken the United States out of UNESCO in protest
against alleged corruption by former top agency officials.
Clinton is currently recovering from the heart bypass surgery he had to
undergo last month, and this has kept him away from the Kerry campaign
after
a few initial support appearances. The former president has told friends
and
Kerry staffers he plans to resume campaigning for Kerry, but on a limited
scale because his recovery has been gradual. He has talked of his interest
in taking over at the United Nations since the publication of his
commercially successful autobiography, which he recently said had sold 1.9
million copies. Writing the book kept him busy after leaving office in
2000,
but he is now ready to channel his considerable political skills and
energy
into another role in public life.
There had been rumors that he would run the Third Way organization, the
world Social Democratic movement he had talked of launching together with
British Prime Minister Tony Blair and German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder.
But the political alliance had come unstuck and the idea ran out of steam
partly because Blair and Schroeder found themselves on opposite sides in
the
Bush-led Iraq war.
Putting Clinton in charge of the United Nations would be a real test of
international intentions, observers say.
"Critics of the U.N. complain that it's an organization without the muscle
and will to put its decisions into effect," the U.N. source observed.
"There's a good chance that Clinton could significantly change that
situation, and then we'll see if the critics mean what they say."
Copyright 2004 by United Press International.
All rights reserved.
It would be excellent to have a person of his grasp of public policy,
expirence and brain power in the UN.
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22 Oct 2004 01:08:53 AM |
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"I Cap'n TrVth" <IcapntrVth@hotmail.com> wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/4cgrn
Analysis: Clinton eyes U.N. post
By ROLAND FLAMINI, UPI Chief International Correspondent
WASHINGTON, Oct. 20 (UPI) -- Former U.S. President Bill Clinton has set his
sights on becoming U.N. secretary-general
Good idea.
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22 Oct 2004 05:16:56 AM |
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On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 08:08:53 +0200, Martin W. Smith
<no.email@this.time> wrote:
"I Cap'n TrVth" <IcapntrVth@hotmail.com> wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/4cgrn
Analysis: Clinton eyes U.N. post
By ROLAND FLAMINI, UPI Chief International Correspondent
WASHINGTON, Oct. 20 (UPI) -- Former U.S. President Bill Clinton has set his
sights on becoming U.N. secretary-general
Good idea.
Traditionally they have always been from a neutral country, which will
disqualify him.
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| User: "Martin W. Smith" |
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22 Oct 2004 05:42:12 AM |
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Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote:
On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 08:08:53 +0200, Martin W. Smith
<no.email@this.time> wrote:
"I Cap'n TrVth" <IcapntrVth@hotmail.com> wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/4cgrn
Analysis: Clinton eyes U.N. post
By ROLAND FLAMINI, UPI Chief International Correspondent
WASHINGTON, Oct. 20 (UPI) -- Former U.S. President Bill Clinton has set his
sights on becoming U.N. secretary-general
Good idea.
Traditionally they have always been from a neutral country, which will
disqualify him.
Neutral with respect to what? The current U.N. secretary-general is
certainly not neutral.
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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22 Oct 2004 05:59:59 AM |
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On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 12:42:12 +0200, Martin W. Smith
<no.email@this.time> wrote:
Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote:
On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 08:08:53 +0200, Martin W. Smith
<no.email@this.time> wrote:
"I Cap'n TrVth" <IcapntrVth@hotmail.com> wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/4cgrn
Analysis: Clinton eyes U.N. post
By ROLAND FLAMINI, UPI Chief International Correspondent
WASHINGTON, Oct. 20 (UPI) -- Former U.S. President Bill Clinton has set his
sights on becoming U.N. secretary-general
Good idea.
Traditionally they have always been from a neutral country, which will
disqualify him.
Neutral with respect to what? The current U.N. secretary-general is
certainly not neutral.
Yes he is. He's just not biased towards the USA.
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| User: "Martin W. Smith" |
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22 Oct 2004 06:26:37 AM |
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Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote:
On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 12:42:12 +0200, Martin W. Smith
<no.email@this.time> wrote:
Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote:
On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 08:08:53 +0200, Martin W. Smith
<no.email@this.time> wrote:
"I Cap'n TrVth" <IcapntrVth@hotmail.com> wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/4cgrn
Analysis: Clinton eyes U.N. post
By ROLAND FLAMINI, UPI Chief International Correspondent
WASHINGTON, Oct. 20 (UPI) -- Former U.S. President Bill Clinton has set his
sights on becoming U.N. secretary-general
Good idea.
Traditionally they have always been from a neutral country, which will
disqualify him.
Neutral with respect to what? The current U.N. secretary-general is
certainly not neutral.
Yes he is. He's just not biased towards the USA.
You didn't answer the question. What do you mean by neutral country?
Chapter 15 of the charter says nothing about neutral countries:
Article 97
The Secretariat shall comprise a Secretary-General and such staff as
the Organization may require. The Secretary-General shall be appointed
by the General Assembly upon the recommendation of the Security
Council. He shall be the chief administrative officer of the
Organization.
Article 98
The Secretary-General shall act in that capacity in all meetings of
the General Assembly, of the Security Council, of the Economic and
Social Council, and of the Trusteeship Council, and shall perform such
other functions as are entrusted to him by these organs. The
Secretary-General shall make an annual report to the General Assembly
on the work of the Organization.
Article 99
The Secretary-General may bring to the attention of the Security
Council any matter which in his opinion may threaten the maintenance
of international peace and security.
Article 100
In the performance of their duties the Secretary-General and the staff
shall not seek or receive instructions from any government or from any
other authority external to the Organization. They shall refrain from
any action which might reflect on their position as international
officials responsible only to the Organization.
Each Member of the United Nations undertakes to respect the
exclusively international character of the responsibilities of the
Secretary-General and the staff and not to seek to influence them in
the discharge of their responsibilities.
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22 Oct 2004 06:47:16 AM |
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On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 13:26:37 +0200, Martin W. Smith
<no.email@this.time> wrote:
Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote:
On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 12:42:12 +0200, Martin W. Smith
<no.email@this.time> wrote:
Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote:
On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 08:08:53 +0200, Martin W. Smith
<no.email@this.time> wrote:
"I Cap'n TrVth" <IcapntrVth@hotmail.com> wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/4cgrn
Analysis: Clinton eyes U.N. post
By ROLAND FLAMINI, UPI Chief International Correspondent
WASHINGTON, Oct. 20 (UPI) -- Former U.S. President Bill Clinton has set his
sights on becoming U.N. secretary-general
Good idea.
Traditionally they have always been from a neutral country, which will
disqualify him.
Neutral with respect to what? The current U.N. secretary-general is
certainly not neutral.
Yes he is. He's just not biased towards the USA.
You didn't answer the question. What do you mean by neutral country?
Chapter 15 of the charter says nothing about neutral countries:
Article 97
The Secretariat shall comprise a Secretary-General and such staff as
the Organization may require. The Secretary-General shall be appointed
by the General Assembly upon the recommendation of the Security
Council. He shall be the chief administrative officer of the
Organization.
I said traditionally. And then you went from neutral country to an
individual's neutrality.
None of the secretaries-general have been from the major power blocks.
They have all been from neutral countries.
Do you think this might have something to do with being elected by the
general assembly, not the power blocks themselves?
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22 Oct 2004 07:02:34 AM |
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Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote:
On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 13:26:37 +0200, Martin W. Smith
<no.email@this.time> wrote:
Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote:
On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 12:42:12 +0200, Martin W. Smith
<no.email@this.time> wrote:
Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote:
On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 08:08:53 +0200, Martin W. Smith
<no.email@this.time> wrote:
"I Cap'n TrVth" <IcapntrVth@hotmail.com> wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/4cgrn
Analysis: Clinton eyes U.N. post
By ROLAND FLAMINI, UPI Chief International Correspondent
WASHINGTON, Oct. 20 (UPI) -- Former U.S. President Bill Clinton has set his
sights on becoming U.N. secretary-general
Good idea.
Traditionally they have always been from a neutral country, which will
disqualify him.
Neutral with respect to what? The current U.N. secretary-general is
certainly not neutral.
Yes he is. He's just not biased towards the USA.
You didn't answer the question. What do you mean by neutral country?
Chapter 15 of the charter says nothing about neutral countries:
Article 97
The Secretariat shall comprise a Secretary-General and such staff as
the Organization may require. The Secretary-General shall be appointed
by the General Assembly upon the recommendation of the Security
Council. He shall be the chief administrative officer of the
Organization.
I said traditionally. And then you went from neutral country to an
individual's neutrality.
No, I asked you explicitly: What do you mean by neutral country? And
you avoided answering. Twice.
None of the secretaries-general have been from the major power blocks.
True, but that has nothing to do with neutrality. Neutrality with
respect to what? Egypt wasn't neutral.
They have all been from neutral countries.
Neutral with respect to what?
Do you think this might have something to do with being elected by the
general assembly, not the power blocks themselves?
The security council recommends; the general assembly elects based on
that recommendation.
You said Clinton would be disqualified. That's false. Clinton is a
popular leader throughout the world.
Neutral with respect to what?
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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22 Oct 2004 07:53:44 AM |
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On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 14:02:34 +0200, Martin W. Smith
<no.email@this.time> wrote:
Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote:
On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 13:26:37 +0200, Martin W. Smith
<no.email@this.time> wrote:
Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote:
On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 12:42:12 +0200, Martin W. Smith
<no.email@this.time> wrote:
Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote:
On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 08:08:53 +0200, Martin W. Smith
<no.email@this.time> wrote:
"I Cap'n TrVth" <IcapntrVth@hotmail.com> wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/4cgrn
Analysis: Clinton eyes U.N. post
By ROLAND FLAMINI, UPI Chief International Correspondent
WASHINGTON, Oct. 20 (UPI) -- Former U.S. President Bill Clinton has set his
sights on becoming U.N. secretary-general
Good idea.
Traditionally they have always been from a neutral country, which will
disqualify him.
Neutral with respect to what? The current U.N. secretary-general is
certainly not neutral.
Yes he is. He's just not biased towards the USA.
You didn't answer the question. What do you mean by neutral country?
Chapter 15 of the charter says nothing about neutral countries:
Article 97
The Secretariat shall comprise a Secretary-General and such staff as
the Organization may require. The Secretary-General shall be appointed
by the General Assembly upon the recommendation of the Security
Council. He shall be the chief administrative officer of the
Organization.
I said traditionally. And then you went from neutral country to an
individual's neutrality.
No, I asked you explicitly: What do you mean by neutral country? And
you avoided answering. Twice.
I've avoided nothing. Why do you lie?
And I've told you - one not associated with the major power blocks.
None of the secretaries-general have been from the major power blocks.
True, but that has nothing to do with neutrality. Neutrality with
respect to what? Egypt wasn't neutral.
NOT ASSOCIATED WITH ONE OF THE MAJOR POWER BLOCKS. Can't you read?
They have all been from neutral countries.
Neutral with respect to what?
THE MAJOR POWER BLOCKS. Can't you read?
Please name a Secretary General who was from a member of one of the
major power blocks. In my lifetime they've been Icelandic, Austrian,
Burmese, Egyptian, South African etc.
Do you think this might have something to do with being elected by the
general assembly, not the power blocks themselves?
The security council recommends; the general assembly elects based on
that recommendation.
They do not rubber stamp it.
You said Clinton would be disqualified. That's false. Clinton is a
popular leader throughout the world.
Sigh. He is an American. The superpower which imposes its will on the
rest of the world. Which uses the UN when it can and ignores it when
it can't.
Neutral with respect to what?
THE MAJOR POWER BLOCKS. Learn to read.
The reason Clinton will not be elected Secretary General is because he
is from a supower that bullies the rest of the world.
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22 Oct 2004 08:10:20 AM |
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Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote:
On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 14:02:34 +0200, Martin W. Smith
<no.email@this.time> wrote:
Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote:
On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 13:26:37 +0200, Martin W. Smith
<no.email@this.time> wrote:
Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote:
On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 12:42:12 +0200, Martin W. Smith
<no.email@this.time> wrote:
Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote:
On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 08:08:53 +0200, Martin W. Smith
<no.email@this.time> wrote:
"I Cap'n TrVth" <IcapntrVth@hotmail.com> wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/4cgrn
Analysis: Clinton eyes U.N. post
By ROLAND FLAMINI, UPI Chief International Correspondent
WASHINGTON, Oct. 20 (UPI) -- Former U.S. President Bill Clinton has set his
sights on becoming U.N. secretary-general
Good idea.
Traditionally they have always been from a neutral country, which will
disqualify him.
Neutral with respect to what? The current U.N. secretary-general is
certainly not neutral.
Yes he is. He's just not biased towards the USA.
You didn't answer the question. What do you mean by neutral country?
Chapter 15 of the charter says nothing about neutral countries:
Article 97
The Secretariat shall comprise a Secretary-General and such staff as
the Organization may require. The Secretary-General shall be appointed
by the General Assembly upon the recommendation of the Security
Council. He shall be the chief administrative officer of the
Organization.
I said traditionally. And then you went from neutral country to an
individual's neutrality.
No, I asked you explicitly: What do you mean by neutral country? And
you avoided answering. Twice.
I've avoided nothing. Why do you lie?
Because you have yet to specify what you mean by neutral country.
And I've told you - one not associated with the major power blocks.
Nonsense. Egypt has always been associated with the Arab power block.
Ghana is associated with the African power block.
Austria, Norway and Sweden are associated with the European power
block.
That's five out of the seven.
Furthermore, Austria, Norway, and Sweden, during the Cold War, were
also much more closely tied to the US, not the USSR or China.
Especially Norway.
So your point is a non-issue. If Clinton is nominated in the security
concil, who would veto it? If the security council passes the
nomination on to the general assembly, do you really think most
nations would vote against him?
Maybe, but I think he would be elected easily. Virtually every state
is associated with a major power block now. The Cold War ended more
than ten years ago you know. Update your thinking.
What major power blocks were you talking about anyway?
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22 Oct 2004 08:24:53 AM |
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On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 15:10:20 +0200, Martin W. Smith
<no.email@this.time> wrote:
Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote:
On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 14:02:34 +0200, Martin W. Smith
<no.email@this.time> wrote:
Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote:
On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 13:26:37 +0200, Martin W. Smith
<no.email@this.time> wrote:
Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote:
On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 12:42:12 +0200, Martin W. Smith
<no.email@this.time> wrote:
Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote:
On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 08:08:53 +0200, Martin W. Smith
<no.email@this.time> wrote:
"I Cap'n TrVth" <IcapntrVth@hotmail.com> wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/4cgrn
Analysis: Clinton eyes U.N. post
By ROLAND FLAMINI, UPI Chief International Correspondent
WASHINGTON, Oct. 20 (UPI) -- Former U.S. President Bill Clinton has set his
sights on becoming U.N. secretary-general
Good idea.
Traditionally they have always been from a neutral country, which will
disqualify him.
Neutral with respect to what? The current U.N. secretary-general is
certainly not neutral.
Yes he is. He's just not biased towards the USA.
You didn't answer the question. What do you mean by neutral country?
Chapter 15 of the charter says nothing about neutral countries:
Article 97
The Secretariat shall comprise a Secretary-General and such staff as
the Organization may require. The Secretary-General shall be appointed
by the General Assembly upon the recommendation of the Security
Council. He shall be the chief administrative officer of the
Organization.
I said traditionally. And then you went from neutral country to an
individual's neutrality.
No, I asked you explicitly: What do you mean by neutral country? And
you avoided answering. Twice.
I've avoided nothing. Why do you lie?
Because you have yet to specify what you mean by neutral country.
I have done, several times now.
And I've told you - one not associated with the major power blocks.
Nonsense. Egypt has always been associated with the Arab power block.
Is that as big a power block as the US or the Soviets?
Ghana is associated with the African power block.
Ghana? Who was a Ghanan Secretary General?
And is Ghana as big a power block as the Sovietrs or the US?
Austria, Norway and Sweden are associated with the European power
block.
Hardly. They re officially neutral - outside any power block.
That's five out of the seven.
Nope.
Do you honestly imagine a US candidate for Secretary-General will be
considered anything but a supporter of US policy?
Furthermore, Austria, Norway, and Sweden, during the Cold War, were
also much more closely tied to the US, not the USSR or China.
Especially Norway.
No. They were _officially_ neutral.
So your point is a non-issue. If Clinton is nominated in the security
concil, who would veto it? If the security council passes the
nomination on to the general assembly, do you really think most
nations would vote against him?
The Security Council does not decide it.
Maybe, but I think he would be elected easily. Virtually every state
is associated with a major power block now. The Cold War ended more
than ten years ago you know. Update your thinking.
You need to learn about the world outside the USA. Start thinking.
What major power blocks were you talking about anyway?
The US for a start.
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23 Oct 2004 12:59:39 AM |
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Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote:
On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 15:10:20 +0200, Martin W. Smith
<no.email@this.time> wrote:
Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote:
On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 14:02:34 +0200, Martin W. Smith
<no.email@this.time> wrote:
Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote:
On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 13:26:37 +0200, Martin W. Smith
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Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote:
On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 12:42:12 +0200, Martin W. Smith
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Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote:
On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 08:08:53 +0200, Martin W. Smith
<no.email@this.time> wrote:
"I Cap'n TrVth" <IcapntrVth@hotmail.com> wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/4cgrn
Analysis: Clinton eyes U.N. post
By ROLAND FLAMINI, UPI Chief International Correspondent
WASHINGTON, Oct. 20 (UPI) -- Former U.S. President Bill Clinton has set his
sights on becoming U.N. secretary-general
Good idea.
Traditionally they have always been from a neutral country, which will
disqualify him.
Neutral with respect to what? The current U.N. secretary-general is
certainly not neutral.
Yes he is. He's just not biased towards the USA.
You didn't answer the question. What do you mean by neutral country?
Chapter 15 of the charter says nothing about neutral countries:
Article 97
The Secretariat shall comprise a Secretary-General and such staff as
the Organization may require. The Secretary-General shall be appointed
by the General Assembly upon the recommendation of the Security
Council. He shall be the chief administrative officer of the
Organization.
I said traditionally. And then you went from neutral country to an
individual's neutrality.
No, I asked you explicitly: What do you mean by neutral country? And
you avoided answering. Twice.
I've avoided nothing. Why do you lie?
Because you have yet to specify what you mean by neutral country.
I have done, several times now.
Yes, now you have, but your explanation doesn't mean anything in the
context of the discussion of whether Bill Clinton is disqualified to
be Secretary-General of the UN. He isn't disqualified for being
American. None of the Europeans were disqualified for being European,
and none of the Africans were disqualified for being African. All were
associated with "power blocks." And the Europeans were also from
western democracies.
The power blocks now are economic ones and religious ones. You will
have a difficult time finding a good candidate who is not associated
with one of those power blocks. You would have to disqualify all
Christians, Muslims, Jews, Hindus, Sikhs, capitalists, socialists, and
communists. That doesn't leave many people.
Wait! Buddhist monks! Buddhist monks aren't associated with any of the
current power blocks. We can appoint the dalai lama as
Secretary-General of the UN!
Way to go, Christopher! Your anal-retentive attitude has resulted in
the mother of all blowbacks for you. The dalai lama will be the next
Secretary-General of the UN.
And I've told you - one not associated with the major power blocks.
Nonsense. Egypt has always been associated with the Arab power block.
Is that as big a power block as the US or the Soviets?
There is no Soviet power block, Christopher. We can't stand around
waiting for you to catch us up.
Ghana is associated with the African power block.
Ghana? Who was a Ghanan Secretary General?
The current one?
And is Ghana as big a power block as the Sovietrs or the US?
Africa is a much bigger power block than the Soviets these days.
Austria, Norway and Sweden are associated with the European power
block.
Hardly. They re officially neutral - outside any power block.
No, they aren't. They have always been states in Europe. Sweden was
neutral in WWII. That's the only thing neutral about any of those
three. Austria and Sweden are members of the EU now. Effectively,
Norway is too, except for having a vote. Norway is also a strong ally
of the US and has been since WWII.
That's five out of the seven.
Nope.
Do you honestly imagine a US candidate for Secretary-General will be
considered anything but a supporter of US policy?
Where were you during Bill Clinton's Presidency?
Furthermore, Austria, Norway, and Sweden, during the Cold War, were
also much more closely tied to the US, not the USSR or China.
Especially Norway.
No. They were _officially_ neutral.
That's nonsense. There wasn't even any "official" neutrality.
So your point is a non-issue. If Clinton is nominated in the security
concil, who would veto it? If the security council passes the
nomination on to the general assembly, do you really think most
nations would vote against him?
The Security Council does not decide it.
The Security Council recommends candidates to the General Assembly.
the General Assembly then chooses among them.
Maybe, but I think he would be elected easily. Virtually every state
is associated with a major power block now. The Cold War ended more
than ten years ago you know. Update your thinking.
You need to learn about the world outside the USA. Start thinking.
I do? But I've been living in the world outside the US since 1987. How
about you?
What major power blocks were you talking about anyway?
The US for a start.
And?
What kind of power, by the way? Obviously not political power, since
George W. Bush lost it all in a crap game. Too bad about that. It will
take quite a few people like Bill clinton and John Kerry to win it
back again. But we will.
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22 Oct 2004 11:33:23 AM |
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Christopher A. Lee wrote:
Ghana? Who was a Ghanan Secretary General?
Kofi Annan.
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22 Oct 2004 11:34:41 AM |
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On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 09:33:23 -0700, "Nikolaos D. Bougalis"
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Christopher A. Lee wrote:
Ghana? Who was a Ghanan Secretary General?
Kofi Annan.
I thought he was South African. I could be wrong though. But in any
case he was from a non-aligned nation.
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22 Oct 2004 11:36:02 AM |
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On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 09:33:23 -0700, "Nikolaos D. Bougalis"
<nikb@webmaster.com> wrote:
Christopher A. Lee wrote:
Ghana? Who was a Ghanan Secretary General?
Kofi Annan.
You're right. I just checked - I had thought he was South African.
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23 Oct 2004 01:01:22 AM |
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Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote:
On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 09:33:23 -0700, "Nikolaos D. Bougalis"
<nikb@webmaster.com> wrote:
Christopher A. Lee wrote:
Ghana? Who was a Ghanan Secretary General?
Kofi Annan.
You're right. I just checked - I had thought he was South African.
What other thoughts did you have? power blocks? What kind of power?
Did you have the thought that the Soviet power block is no more?
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23 Oct 2004 04:30:06 AM |
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On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 08:01:22 +0200, Martin W. Smith
<no.email@this.time> wrote:
Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote:
On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 09:33:23 -0700, "Nikolaos D. Bougalis"
<nikb@webmaster.com> wrote:
Christopher A. Lee wrote:
Ghana? Who was a Ghanan Secretary General?
Kofi Annan.
You're right. I just checked - I had thought he was South African.
What other thoughts did you have? power blocks? What kind of power?
Did you have the thought that the Soviet power block is no more?
Irrelevant. Is it really so hard to grasp that he would not be trusted
to be impartial?
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24 Oct 2004 02:03:09 AM |
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Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote:
On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 08:01:22 +0200, Martin W. Smith
<no.email@this.time> wrote:
Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote:
On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 09:33:23 -0700, "Nikolaos D. Bougalis"
<nikb@webmaster.com> wrote:
Christopher A. Lee wrote:
Ghana? Who was a Ghanan Secretary General?
Kofi Annan.
You're right. I just checked - I had thought he was South African.
What other thoughts did you have? power blocks? What kind of power?
Did you have the thought that the Soviet power block is no more?
Irrelevant. Is it really so hard to grasp that he would not be trusted
to be impartial?
It isn't hard to grasp. You're just wrong. Unless you mean he would
not be trusted by the Bush administration. Then you would be right, of
course, but all of this is assuming Kerry wins.
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24 Oct 2004 03:02:32 AM |
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On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 09:03:09 +0200, Martin W. Smith
<no.email@this.time> wrote:
Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote:
On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 08:01:22 +0200, Martin W. Smith
<no.email@this.time> wrote:
Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote:
On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 09:33:23 -0700, "Nikolaos D. Bougalis"
<nikb@webmaster.com> wrote:
Christopher A. Lee wrote:
Ghana? Who was a Ghanan Secretary General?
Kofi Annan.
You're right. I just checked - I had thought he was South African.
What other thoughts did you have? power blocks? What kind of power?
Did you have the thought that the Soviet power block is no more?
Irrelevant. Is it really so hard to grasp that he would not be trusted
to be impartial?
It isn't hard to grasp. You're just wrong. Unless you mean he would
not be trusted by the Bush administration. Then you would be right, of
course, but all of this is assuming Kerry wins.
If I'd meant that II would have said that. You're jusrt wrong. He
would be a representative of the superpower that wants to impose its
will on both the UN and the rest of the world. It's not hard to grasp.
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24 Oct 2004 03:09:14 AM |
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Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote:
On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 09:03:09 +0200, Martin W. Smith
<no.email@this.time> wrote:
Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote:
On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 08:01:22 +0200, Martin W. Smith
<no.email@this.time> wrote:
Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote:
On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 09:33:23 -0700, "Nikolaos D. Bougalis"
<nikb@webmaster.com> wrote:
Christopher A. Lee wrote:
Ghana? Who was a Ghanan Secretary General?
Kofi Annan.
You're right. I just checked - I had thought he was South African.
What other thoughts did you have? power blocks? What kind of power?
Did you have the thought that the Soviet power block is no more?
Irrelevant. Is it really so hard to grasp that he would not be trusted
to be impartial?
It isn't hard to grasp. You're just wrong. Unless you mean he would
not be trusted by the Bush administration. Then you would be right, of
course, but all of this is assuming Kerry wins.
If I'd meant that II would have said that. You're jusrt wrong. He
would be a representative of the superpower that wants to impose its
will on both the UN and the rest of the world. It's not hard to grasp.
You're wrong. You see it that way because you hate the man. He remains
one of the most popular American presidents ever in most of the world.
You should take your own advice and learn about the world outside your
country.
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23 Oct 2004 09:19:53 AM |
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Clinton see the head of the UN as the "Earth Leader"...
the new head of the One World governement...
and he wants to be the head guy...
or was that Monica the "head guy"?
hank
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"I Cap'n TrVth" <IcapntrVth@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<Gd6dnWlGi4QXDuXcRVn-3w@gwi.net>...
http://tinyurl.com/4cgrn
Analysis: Clinton eyes U.N. post
By ROLAND FLAMINI, UPI Chief International Correspondent
WASHINGTON, Oct. 20 (UPI) -- Former U.S. President Bill Clinton has set his
sights on becoming U.N. secretary-general. A Clinton insider and a senior
U.N. source have told United Press International the 56-year-old former
president would like to be named leader of the world body when Kofi Annan's
term ends early in 2006.
"He definitely wants to do it," the Clinton insider said this week.
A Clinton candidacy is likely to receive overwhelming support from U.N.
member states, particularly the Third World. Diplomats in Washington say
Clinton would galvanize the United Nations and give an enormous boost to its
prestige. But the former president's hopes hang on a crucial question that
will not be addressed until after the presidential elections: can he get the
support of the U.S. government -- a prerequisite for nomination?
The political wisdom is that a second George W. Bush presidency would cut
him off at the pass. The notion of Clinton looming large in the
international arena from "the glass tower" in New York would be intolerable
to the Bush White House. If Democratic candidate, Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass.,
wins on Nov. 2 the prospect of Clinton as secretary-general won't exactly be
welcome either, but Kerry would find it much harder -- if not impossible --
to go against it.
After a Middle East U.N. Secretary General (Boutros Boutros Ghali) and an
African (Kofi Annan) it is generally considered Asia's turn to fill the
post, U.N. experts say. No announcement has been made, but behind the scenes
China is already pushing the candidacy of Thai Foreign Minister Surakiart
Sathirathai, who also seems to have U.S. support. If Clinton does emerge as
a candidate, however, China would most likely shift its support, the experts
say.
No American has ever been U.N. secretary-general, but the United States is
both host country to the United Nations and the major contributor to its
budget. A hostile U.S. Congress held up its dues for years -- until the
Clinton administration negotiated a payment plan for Washington's arrears.
Clinton also revived U.S. membership of UNESCO though the Americans did not
actually move back into their offices at the Paris-based scientific and
cultural U.N. agency until after the start of the Bush presidency.
President Reagan had taken the United States out of UNESCO in protest
against alleged corruption by former top agency officials.
Clinton is currently recovering from the heart bypass surgery he had to
undergo last month, and this has kept him away from the Kerry campaign after
a few initial support appearances. The former president has told friends and
Kerry staffers he plans to resume campaigning for Kerry, but on a limited
scale because his recovery has been gradual. He has talked of his interest
in taking over at the United Nations since the publication of his
commercially successful autobiography, which he recently said had sold 1.9
million copies. Writing the book kept him busy after leaving office in 2000,
but he is now ready to channel his considerable political skills and energy
into another role in public life.
There had been rumors that he would run the Third Way organization, the
world Social Democratic movement he had talked of launching together with
British Prime Minister Tony Blair and German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder.
But the political alliance had come unstuck and the idea ran out of steam
partly because Blair and Schroeder found themselves on opposite sides in the
Bush-led Iraq war.
Putting Clinton in charge of the United Nations would be a real test of
international intentions, observers say.
"Critics of the U.N. complain that it's an organization without the muscle
and will to put its decisions into effect," the U.N. source observed.
"There's a good chance that Clinton could significantly change that
situation, and then we'll see if the critics mean what they say."
Copyright 2004 by United Press International.
All rights reserved.
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If you are a fellow American patriot and lover of the First Amendment, then
by these presents greetings. It is good that you seek rational and
democratic discussion of the great and urgent issues facing our nation.
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Especially if you remember the old days of thoughtful discussion in the
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However, there are many alternatives. For example, there are many more
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Lots of good books still being published. (Michael Moore has two new ones.)
You could write a letter for your local paper--you'll reach more "normal"
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political campaigns--I confess I've already made eight donations. Just
remember that big money is harming democracy, that BushCo has more money
than anyone, and that if money alone decides elections then the American
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Last, but MOST important: VOTE! Your nation needs you NOW!
On the other hand, if you are a Bushevik troll, then in the immortal
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When selecting "featured" posts for this mindless blather thread, the
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8. Vicious negative emotionalism, especially amusing personal attacks.
[For the purposes of this thread, the freshest original parts are usually
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want to see the full context.]
hank <rightwinghank@hotmail.com> wrote:
Clinton see the head of the UN as the "Earth Leader"...
the new head of the One World governement...
and he wants to be the head guy...
or was that Monica the "head guy"?
hank
<old stuff snip>
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We don't know if 9/11 could have been stopped--but we do know Dubya
failed to stop it. That's the FACT.
You want steady leadership for disastrous change?
Attack, lie, spin. Dubya's REAL trifecta.
Trolls fed to "The vile spewers of mindless blather thread".
('Doorman' is a role-based pen name of Shannon Jacobs, copyright
2004.)
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22 Oct 2004 11:52:34 AM |
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I Cap'n TrVth wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/4cgrn
Analysis: Clinton eyes U.N. post
By ROLAND FLAMINI, UPI Chief International Correspondent
WASHINGTON, Oct. 20 (UPI) -- Former U.S. President Bill Clinton has set his
sights on becoming U.N. secretary-general. A Clinton insider and a senior
U.N. source have told United Press International the 56-year-old former
president would like to be named leader of the world body when Kofi Annan's
term ends early in 2006.
Clinton found out how much money ol' Koffi and family were able to
steal. Clinton is
a ancomplished thief and thinks he can steal even more. Just think of
all the things he could sell the Chinese.
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24 Oct 2004 12:17:23 PM |
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On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 00:58:48 -0400, "I Cap'n TrVth"
<IcapntrVth@hotmail.com> thought hard and said:
http://tinyurl.com/4cgrn
Analysis: Clinton eyes U.N. post
By ROLAND FLAMINI, UPI Chief International Correspondent
WASHINGTON, Oct. 20 (UPI) -- Former U.S. President Bill Clinton has set his
sights on becoming U.N. secretary-general. A Clinton insider and a senior
U.N. source have told United Press International the 56-year-old former
president would like to be named leader of the world body when Kofi Annan's
term ends early in 2006.
That cannot come soon enough. Annan's term, that is.
--
-Daniel "Mr. Brevity" Kolle; 16 A.A. #2035
Koji Kondo, Yo-Yo Ma, Gustav Mahler, Krzysztof Penderecki, and Geirr Tveitt are my Gods.
Head of EAC Denial Department and Madly Insane Scientist.
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24 Oct 2004 01:01:15 PM |
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"Daniel Kolle" <DKolle@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:6sonn05p6gqlfeq6c5t7tm05ipqo6k9rm2@4ax.com...
On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 00:58:48 -0400, "I Cap'n TrVth"
<IcapntrVth@hotmail.com> thought hard and said:
http://tinyurl.com/4cgrn
Analysis: Clinton eyes U.N. post
By ROLAND FLAMINI, UPI Chief International Correspondent
WASHINGTON, Oct. 20 (UPI) -- Former U.S. President Bill Clinton has set
his
sights on becoming U.N. secretary-general. A Clinton insider and a senior
U.N. source have told United Press International the 56-year-old former
president would like to be named leader of the world body when Kofi
Annan's
term ends early in 2006.
That cannot come soon enough. Annan's term, that is.
The Shrub will be back in his outhouse in Crawford well before Annan's term
ends. Count on it.
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On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 14:01:15 -0400, "Juan Jimenez"
<flybd5@hotmail.com> thought hard and said:
"Daniel Kolle" <DKolle@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:6sonn05p6gqlfeq6c5t7tm05ipqo6k9rm2@4ax.com...
On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 00:58:48 -0400, "I Cap'n TrVth"
<IcapntrVth@hotmail.com> thought hard and said:
http://tinyurl.com/4cgrn
Analysis: Clinton eyes U.N. post
By ROLAND FLAMINI, UPI Chief International Correspondent
WASHINGTON, Oct. 20 (UPI) -- Former U.S. President Bill Clinton has set
his
sights on becoming U.N. secretary-general. A Clinton insider and a senior
U.N. source have told United Press International the 56-year-old former
president would like to be named leader of the world body when Kofi
Annan's
term ends early in 2006.
That cannot come soon enough. Annan's term, that is.
The Shrub will be back in his outhouse in Crawford well before Annan's term
ends. Count on it.
We shall see.
--
-Daniel "Mr. Brevity" Kolle; 16 A.A. #2035
Koji Kondo, Yo-Yo Ma, Gustav Mahler, Krzysztof Penderecki, and Geirr Tveitt are my Gods.
Head of EAC Denial Department and Madly Insane Scientist.
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22 Oct 2004 06:11:06 PM |
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On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 00:58:48 -0400, "I Cap'n TrVth"
<IcapntrVth@hotmail.com> wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/4cgrn
Analysis: Clinton eyes U.N. post
By ROLAND FLAMINI, UPI Chief International Correspondent
WASHINGTON, Oct. 20 (UPI) -- Former U.S. President Bill Clinton has set his
sights on becoming U.N. secretary-general.
Yeah, shame on him for wanting to lead an international organisation
for peace, health and justice.
Maybe he should join the church, I'm sure there are a few boys left
that haven't been raped yet.
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Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. (1 Thessalonians 5:21)
W. Syme (pseudonym), European, non-native English speaker, "soft" atheist.
Email will not be read.
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24 Oct 2004 03:57:53 PM |
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On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 00:58:48 -0400, "I Cap'n TrVth"
<IcapntrVth@hotmail.com> wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/4cgrn
Analysis: Clinton eyes U.N. post
By ROLAND FLAMINI, UPI Chief International Correspondent
WASHINGTON, Oct. 20 (UPI) -- Former U.S. President Bill Clinton has set his
sights on becoming U.N. secretary-general. A Clinton insider and a senior
U.N. source have told United Press International the 56-year-old former
president would like to be named leader of the world body when Kofi Annan's
term ends early in 2006.
Bill just wants to spread democracy (In his own way) across the
world. :)
However, I wouldn't mind if he is the head of the UN. We've only
contributed money, men and time, might as well run the damn show too!
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22 Oct 2004 05:19:14 PM |
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On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 00:58:48 -0400, "I Cap'n TrVth"
<IcapntrVth@hotmail.com> wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/4cgrn
Analysis: Clinton eyes U.N. post
By ROLAND FLAMINI, UPI Chief International Correspondent
WASHINGTON, Oct. 20 (UPI) -- Former U.S. President Bill Clinton has set his
sights on becoming U.N. secretary-general. A Clinton insider and a senior
U.N. source have told United Press International the 56-year-old former
president would like to be named leader of the world body when Kofi Annan's
term ends early in 2006.
<snip>
Interesting concept. But whatcha guys think. Might that torpedo Ms.
Clinton's prospects for Presidency? Can you imagine the Secretary
General of the UN and the President of the US literally being in bed
together? I'm not saying that I'm opposed to either holding the
offices. But you must admit, it would be a strange dynamic. US voters
might be spooked by it in Ms. Clinton's case, and the world body in
Mr. Clinton's case.
Too bad. I think they are at *least* as qualified for these offices as
those currently occupying them.
--
zamboni
#2139
How d'ya like me *now*?
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can't happen. no member of the permanent five on the security council can
become head of the UN
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| Title: Re: Clinton wants to head the U.N. (Hjarf alert) |
22 Oct 2004 12:13:52 AM |
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TV's I Cap'n TrVth wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/4cgrn
Analysis: Clinton eyes U.N. post
By ROLAND FLAMINI, UPI Chief International Correspondent
WASHINGTON, Oct. 20 (UPI) -- Former U.S. President Bill Clinton has
set his sights on becoming U.N. secretary-general. A Clinton insider
and a senior U.N. source have told United Press International the
56-year-old former president would like to be named leader of the
world body when Kofi Annan's term ends early in 2006.
What a GREAT idea!
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