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"J Young" |
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15 Dec 2005 07:47:39 AM |
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Cloning pioneer 'admitted faking stem cells' |
The only suprise here is that it is even news. Unethnical people doing
unethnical work, by nature, will not be honest people.
http://breakingnews.iol.ie/news/story.asp?j=71031608&p=7yx3y9yx
Cloning pioneer 'admitted faking stem cells'
A doctor who provided human eggs for research by cloning pioneer Hwang
Woo-suk claimed today that the South Korean scientist admitted most of the
stem cells he produced and documented in a journal article were faked,
according to news reports.
Roh Sung-il, chairman of the board at Mizmedi Hospital, told KBS television
Hwang had agreed to ask the journal Science to withdraw the paper, published
in June.
Roh was one of the co-authors of the article that detailed how individual
stem cell colonies were created for 11 patients through cloning.
Roh said nine of the embryonic stem cell lines Hwang had claimed were cloned
in the paper were faked, and the authenticity of the other two was unknown.
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| User: "Zadok" |
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| Title: Re: Cloning pioneer 'admitted faking stem cells' |
15 Dec 2005 07:56:04 AM |
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"J Young" <> wrote in message ...
The only suprise here is that it is even news. Unethnical people doing
unethnical work, by nature, will not be honest people.
You any relation to Dickie 'Dork' Dawkins?
You post the same kind of crap!!
Listen, does pope Benny wear panties under his dress??
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| User: "Frank Arthur" |
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| Title: Re: Cloning pioneer 'admitted faking stem cells' |
15 Dec 2005 08:38:19 AM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:MJWdnZTgg59-7jzenZ2dnUVZ_t2dnZ2d@giganews.com...
The only suprise here is that it is even news. Unethnical people doing
unethnical work, by nature, will not be honest people.
Unethical?
How about Christians preventing birth control, forbidding abortions and
denying sex education?
Millions of children exploited and discriminated against, U.N. says
Dec 14, 2005, 17:21 GMT
New York - Society has let hundreds of millions of children fall between the
cracks, who are trapped and ignored after they have been traded and abused
or discriminated against, the U.N. Children's Fund (UNICEF) said in an
annual study Wednesday.
'The State of the World Children 2006: Excluded and Invisible' said that
those children are growing up outside the reach of development projects,
public debate and legislation.
'At the extremes, children can become invisible, in effect disappearing from
view within their families, communities and societies, and to governments,
donors, civil society, the media, private sector and even other children,'
the study said.
The children hardest to reach include those living in poorest countries and
most deprived communities, facing discrimination on the basis of gender and
ethnicity. Others are caught up in armed conflict, the sex trade or affected
by HIV/AIDS.
'There cannot be lasting progress if we continue to overlook the children
most in need - the poorest and most vulnerable, the exploited and the
abused,' said UNICEF director Ann M. Veneman.
The U.N. has made assistance to children around the world one of its major
programmes, including providing primary education to all children by 2015.
The study said four circumstances are most likely to make children become
'invisible and forgotten'.
- Children without formal identity. At least 50 million children in
developing countries, half of global annual births, each year go
unregistered and therefore do not appear in any official statistics. Without
a birth certificate, they are not guaranteed an education, good healthcare
and basic health services.
- Children without parental care. They are orphans, street children and
those in detention centers who receive no loving care and protection of
parents. There are an estimated 143 million children who have lost at least
one parent. Tens of millions of children spend a large part of their lives
on the streets and more than 1 million live in detention, with the majority
awaiting trial for minor offences.
- Children in adult roles. Children who are forced into adult roles too
early miss childhood stages. They are especially drafted into armed
conflict, used as porters, cooks, sex slaves for soldiers. An estimated 80
million girls around the world are forced into marriage before 18. Some 171
million children work in hazardous conditions in industries, mines and
agriculture.
- Children who are exploited. An estimated 8.4 million children work in the
sex industry, many of them to pay off debt. A vast number are exploited as
domestic servants in private homes, prevented to attend school, underfed and
overworked.
UNICEF called for more research, monitoring and reporting on the nature and
extent of abuses of children, for national legislation to protect and
prosecute those who harm children and for the strengthening of government
institutions that serve children.
http://breakingnews.iol.ie/news/story.asp?j=71031608&p=7yx3y9yx
Cloning pioneer 'admitted faking stem cells'
A doctor who provided human eggs for research by cloning pioneer Hwang
Woo-suk claimed today that the South Korean scientist admitted most of the
stem cells he produced and documented in a journal article were faked,
according to news reports.
Roh Sung-il, chairman of the board at Mizmedi Hospital, told KBS
television
Hwang had agreed to ask the journal Science to withdraw the paper,
published
in June.
Roh was one of the co-authors of the article that detailed how individual
stem cell colonies were created for 11 patients through cloning.
Roh said nine of the embryonic stem cell lines Hwang had claimed were
cloned
in the paper were faked, and the authenticity of the other two was
unknown.
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| User: "Conspiracy of Doves" |
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| Title: Re: Cloning pioneer 'admitted faking stem cells' |
15 Dec 2005 09:04:27 AM |
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Care to explain exactly how cloning technology is 'unethical'?
Something that could potentially allow us to grow replacement organs on
demand with virtually no chance of rejection, saving thousand or even
millions of lives? You have a problem with saving people's lives? Or
perhaps you are the type of christian that believes that if someone
gets terminally ill, that it is god's will that they die a horrible,
lingering death.
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| User: "Frank Arthur" |
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| Title: Re: Cloning pioneer 'admitted faking stem cells' |
15 Dec 2005 09:39:53 AM |
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Culture of Death
The American Civil Liberties Union released documents on forty-four
deaths of prisoners in US custody, twenty-one of them officially
classified as homicides. For example, an Iraqi prisoner died while
being interrogated in 2004. He had been deprived of sleep, exposed to
extreme temperatures, doused with cold water and kept hooded. The
official report said hypothermia may have contributed to his death.
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:MJWdnZTgg59-7jzenZ2dnUVZ_t2dnZ2d@giganews.com...
The only suprise here is that it is even news. Unethnical people doing
unethnical work, by nature, will not be honest people.
http://breakingnews.iol.ie/news/story.asp?j=71031608&p=7yx3y9yx
Cloning pioneer 'admitted faking stem cells'
A doctor who provided human eggs for research by cloning pioneer Hwang
Woo-suk claimed today that the South Korean scientist admitted most of the
stem cells he produced and documented in a journal article were faked,
according to news reports.
Roh Sung-il, chairman of the board at Mizmedi Hospital, told KBS
television
Hwang had agreed to ask the journal Science to withdraw the paper,
published
in June.
Roh was one of the co-authors of the article that detailed how individual
stem cell colonies were created for 11 patients through cloning.
Roh said nine of the embryonic stem cell lines Hwang had claimed were
cloned
in the paper were faked, and the authenticity of the other two was
unknown.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Cloning pioneer 'admitted faking stem cells' |
15 Dec 2005 11:19:05 AM |
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J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
The only suprise here is that it is even news. Unethnical people doing
unethnical work, by nature, will not be honest people.
Look at you, for example. Wholly unethical.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian" |
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| Title: *hysterical laughter* |
15 Dec 2005 02:20:54 PM |
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J Young wrote:
The only suprise here is that it is even news. Unethnical people doing
unethnical work, by nature, will not be honest people.
Yes boys and girls, if the label reads "J Young" you know there's *****
inside.
--
"To his friend a man a friend shall prove,
And gifts with gifts requite;
But men shall mocking with mockery answer,
And fraud with falsehood meet."
(The Poetic Edda)
Must have been written with fundies in mind...
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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| Title: TQOTM - Jyoung - Re: *hysterical laughter* |
15 Dec 2005 03:26:04 PM |
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On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:20:54 +0100, "Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian"
<MAILTOcommoner@carcosa.de> wrote:
J Young wrote:
The only suprise here is that it is even news. Unethnical people doing
unethnical work, by nature, will not be honest people.
Yes boys and girls, if the label reads "J Young" you know there's *****
inside.
TQOTM nomination - unless he's banned to give the other loonies a
chance.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: TQOTM - Jyoung - Re: *hysterical laughter* |
15 Dec 2005 09:28:21 PM |
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In <06n3q1ld3cvqqj39tacv94pg48cjri0iu3@4ax.com>, Christopher A. Lee
<calee@optonline.net> wrote:
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:20:54 +0100, "Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian"
<MAILTOcommoner@carcosa.de> wrote:
J Young wrote:
The only suprise here is that it is even news. Unethnical people doing
unethnical work, by nature, will not be honest people.
Yes boys and girls, if the label reads "J Young" you know there's
***** inside.
TQOTM nomination - unless he's banned to give the other loonies a chance.
He should be disqualified. He's obiously a ringer...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
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Feds are treating Louisiana like enemy
"...it may be that they may have written us off."
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http://www.nola.com
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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| Title: Re: TQOTM - Jyoung - Re: *hysterical laughter* |
15 Dec 2005 09:35:30 PM |
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Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Christopher A. Lee
(calee@optonline.net) made the light shine upon us with this:
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:20:54 +0100, "Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian"
<MAILTOcommoner@carcosa.de> wrote:
J Young wrote:
The only suprise here is that it is even news. Unethnical people
doing unethnical work, by nature, will not be honest people.
Yes boys and girls, if the label reads "J Young" you know there's
***** inside.
TQOTM nomination - unless he's banned to give the other loonies a
chance.
In another thread, TGB is nominated for an AQOTM. Methinks he plays with
our heads...
--
Uncle Vic
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
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Only the atheist realizes how morally objectionable it is for survivors of
a catastrophe to believe themselves spared by a loving God while this same
God drowned infants in their cribs. - Sam Harris
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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| Title: Re: TQOTM - Jyoung - Re: *hysterical laughter* |
15 Dec 2005 10:37:51 PM |
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On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:35:30 -0600, Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com>
wrote:
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Christopher A. Lee
(calee@optonline.net) made the light shine upon us with this:
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:20:54 +0100, "Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian"
<MAILTOcommoner@carcosa.de> wrote:
J Young wrote:
The only suprise here is that it is even news. Unethnical people
doing unethnical work, by nature, will not be honest people.
Yes boys and girls, if the label reads "J Young" you know there's
***** inside.
TQOTM nomination - unless he's banned to give the other loonies a
chance.
In another thread, TGB is nominated for an AQOTM. Methinks he plays with
our heads...
It was the J Young quite I was nominating.
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| User: "*nemo*" |
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| Title: Re: TQOTM - Jyoung - Re: *hysterical laughter* |
18 Dec 2005 08:38:19 AM |
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In article <r3h4q11r3nlld6b5pbvri8vp16ku2vr1l3@4ax.com>,
Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote:
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:35:30 -0600, Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com>
wrote:
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Christopher A. Lee
(calee@optonline.net) made the light shine upon us with this:
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:20:54 +0100, "Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian"
<MAILTOcommoner@carcosa.de> wrote:
J Young wrote:
The only suprise here is that it is even news. Unethnical people
doing unethnical work, by nature, will not be honest people.
Yes boys and girls, if the label reads "J Young" you know there's
***** inside.
TQOTM nomination - unless he's banned to give the other loonies a
chance.
In another thread, TGB is nominated for an AQOTM. Methinks he plays with
our heads...
It was the J Young quite I was nominating.
That was the source of confusion, I expect. I'll second it and record it.
I wish there was some context, though...
--
Nemo - EAC Commissioner for Bible Belt Underwater Operations.
Atheist #1331 (the Palindrome of doom!)
BAAWA Knight! - One of those warm Southern Knights, y'all!
Charter member, SMASH!!
http://home.earthlink.net/~jehdjh/Relpg.html
Draco Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus
Quotemeister since March 2002
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| User: "Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian" |
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| Title: Re: TQOTM - Jyoung - Re: *hysterical laughter* |
16 Dec 2005 12:12:41 AM |
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Uncle Vic wrote:
In another thread, TGB is nominated for an AQOTM. Methinks he plays with
our heads...
And from faraway Germany, one can hear a faint evil laughter... ;)
--
"To his friend a man a friend shall prove,
And gifts with gifts requite;
But men shall mocking with mockery answer,
And fraud with falsehood meet."
(The Poetic Edda)
Must have been written with fundies in mind...
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: TQOTM - Jyoung - Re: *hysterical laughter* |
16 Dec 2005 06:59:04 AM |
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On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 07:12:41 +0100, "Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian"
<MAILTOcommoner@carcosa.de> wrote:
Uncle Vic wrote:
In another thread, TGB is nominated for an AQOTM. Methinks he plays with
our heads...
And from faraway Germany, one can hear a faint evil laughter... ;)
which is music to the ears. ;)
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Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian" |
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| Title: Re: TQOTM - Jyoung - Re: *hysterical laughter* |
16 Dec 2005 02:41:15 PM |
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stoney wrote:
And from faraway Germany, one can hear a faint evil laughter... ;)
which is music to the ears. ;)
Glad to make you feel good ;)
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"To his friend a man a friend shall prove,
And gifts with gifts requite;
But men shall mocking with mockery answer,
And fraud with falsehood meet."
(The Poetic Edda)
Must have been written with fundies in mind...
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: TQOTM - Jyoung - Re: *hysterical laughter* |
17 Dec 2005 12:34:48 PM |
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On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 21:41:15 +0100, "Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian"
<MAILTOcommoner@carcosa.de> wrote:
stoney wrote:
And from faraway Germany, one can hear a faint evil laughter... ;)
which is music to the ears. ;)
Glad to make you feel good ;)
:)))
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Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "LC" |
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| Title: Re: Cloning pioneer 'admitted faking stem cells' |
15 Dec 2005 09:50:44 AM |
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Very "unethnical" troll "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:MJWdnZTgg59-7jzenZ2dnUVZ_t2dnZ2d@giganews.com...
Unethnical people doing unethnical work, by nature, will not be honest
people.
But I thought the only people you didn't hate were the "un-ethnic" people,
IBen?
LC~ "J Young", having appropriated other's work with out attribution,
commenting on "honesty"?
It would seem "J" doesn't grasp "irony".
"I think J Young posts while roaring drunk."
From: Brian Westley <westley@visi.com>
Message-ID: <11om66cfkrvco37@corp.supernews.com>
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| User: "Paul Duca" |
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16 Dec 2005 08:37:34 PM |
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in article MJWdnZTgg59-7jzenZ2dnUVZ_t2dnZ2d@giganews.com, J Young at
youngopinions@aol.com wrote on 12/15/05 8:47 AM:
The only suprise here is that it is even news. Unethnical people doing
unethnical work, by nature, will not be honest people.
That means they'd be welcome in J Young's Catholic Heaven...
Paul
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