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"Get Real Shrub" |
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05 Nov 2005 09:22:24 PM |
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CNN.com readers tell Bush to cut the ***** |
CNN.com readers advise the president
(CNN) -- Bring home the troops. Shake up the White House staff. Focus
on issues at home. Listen to voices on the right; listen to voices on
the left.
When asked how they would advise the president, CNN.com readers posed
these and many other ideas to lift the administration's lagging
approval ratings.
A year after President Bush was elected to a second term, he and his
administration face an array of troubles, including rising energy
prices, the indictment of a former top White House official and waning
public support for the war in Iraq.
How can Bush turn his presidency around? CNN.com readers offered
suggestions on a variety of themes:
1. Take responsibility.
Many advised the president to admit mistakes and move on. Drew Hunt of
Normal, Illinois, cited Harry Truman's famous advice, "The buck stops
here," and wrote, "If this administration would take responsibility
for its wrongdoings, rather than placing the blame elsewhere or, worse
still, forging ahead regardless of the wisdom of the decision, it
would go a long way toward restoring the integrity of our government."
(Read more recommendations on this theme. )
2. Clean house.
Others suggested the best way to shake off problems would be to shake
up staffing at the White House. Judith A. Shaffer of Punxsutawney,
Pennsylvania, advised Bush to fire his chief political strategist,
Karl Rove, who has been entangled in an investigation into the leak of
a CIA agent's name. Brett Finnell of Greenville, North Carolina,
recommended finding a new defense secretary.
(Read more recommendations on this theme.)
3. Bring home the troops.
An anonymous U.S. soldier serving in Pyongtek, South Korea, said the
president should show "humility to the U.S. soldiers in both Iraq and
Korea and let them come home ... and be with their families."
Martha Prater of Rusk, Texas, agreed but expressed concern that it may
be too late now to pull troops out: "We have gotten ourselves so deep
already that pulling out now would only put our country at greater
risk of terrorist attacks or worse."
(Read more recommendations on this theme.)
4. Focus on issues at home.
Some of those who wrote in suggested the president turn his attention
toward problems at home, putting priority on gas prices, disaster
relief and support for the poor.
"Remember that you are the president of the United States, not the
world," advised Mary from Temecula, California.
Andy Park of Key Largo, Florida, posed this idea for combating high
energy prices: "Push legislation to regulate oil companies as public
utilities -- just like electric, natural gas and telephone companies.
This would require that companies obtain regulatory approval before
raising gas prices." Hurricanes Katrina and Rita knocked out oil
platforms and pipelines as they cut back-to-back paths through the
U.S. Gulf Coast, causing a spike in energy prices.
Andrew M. Herold of Beltsville, Maryland, said the president could
give jobs and wages a boost by closing the country's borders to
illegal immigrants.
(Read more recommendations on this theme.)
5. Lean to the right (or to the left).
Many of those who wrote in advised the president to follow the lead of
a particular group. Respondents did not, however, agree on which group
that would be.
Cheri Windsor of Colorado recommended the president get "off the
evangelical tract." But Pedro Delgado of Miami, Florida, gave opposite
advice: "Give full true backing (no lip service) to the people that
voted twice to put a man in office to gain back our country. No
euthanasia, no abortion, no persecution of Christians, no judicial
tyranny, no homosexual privileges, no attacks on the institution of
marriage, no attacks on the family."
(Read more recommendations on this theme.)
http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/11/04/feedback.bush.themes/index.html
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| User: "BDK" |
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| Title: Re: CNN.com readers tell Bush to cut the ***** |
07 Nov 2005 05:20:44 AM |
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In article <1131301477.891021.60840@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
quatorzejames@netzero.com says...
i want to know who on this ng *did* vote for mr. bush.
i suspect a large number did not vote at all...
snarkiness aside, who here is woman or man enuf to confess here,
publicly if relatively anonymously?
i myself voted for mr. kerry while holding my pert nose.
i can't wait to vote for mrs. clinton.
i know she's not perfect, but i like her seriousness.
she isn't the type to smile inanely and attempt to change the subject.
my friend at weork says she feels that americans will not vote a woman
iinto the top office at this time.
she feels mrs. clinton's gender is a fatal liability.
what are your thoughts?
I admit it. I did vote for Bush in 2000, holding my nose and feeling bad
about it, but I just couldn't vote for Gore. In 2004, Kerry was an easy
choice, he couldn't, and wouldn't have been, as bad as Bush has been.
Not that I'm a big Kerry fan, but I'm even less a fan of Bush. I thought
Carter was worthless, but Bush beats him in every negative way.
As far as voting for Hillary...
It depends on who would run against her, If the Republicans put a guy
like First, or Gingrich up, or any other whackjob up, hell yes, but if
it's McCain, no, he's about the only one I could vote for that I've
seen on the Republican side.. That's assuming that Cheney doesn't decide
to run, bad heart or not. If he did, I would vote for our local
dogcatcher, and he's a totally worthless dogcatcher who sees Pitbulls
everywhere, and thinks anyone who wants to have two are "fighting" them,
and got his job due to his last name, before voting for Dicko.
I've never voted by party, but it's getting to the point that I'm
considering voting "anti-republican" across the board.
I voted for Ford, then Reagan twice, Bush older once, Clinton twice,
Bush Lite once, and Kerry.
BDK
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| User: "DaveJr" |
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| Title: Re: CNN.com readers tell Bush to cut the ***** |
07 Nov 2005 11:05:17 AM |
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i want to know who on this ng *did* vote for mr. bush.
i suspect a large number did not vote at all...
snarkiness aside, who here is woman or man enuf to confess here,
publicly if relatively anonymously?
i myself voted for mr. kerry while holding my pert nose.
i can't wait to vote for mrs. clinton.
i know she's not perfect, but i like her seriousness.
she isn't the type to smile inanely and attempt to change the subject.
my friend at weork says she feels that americans will not vote a woman
iinto the top office at this time.
she feels mrs. clinton's gender is a fatal liability.
what are your thoughts?
I admit it. I did vote for Bush in 2000, holding my nose and feeling bad
about it, but I just couldn't vote for Gore. In 2004, Kerry was an easy
choice, he couldn't, and wouldn't have been, as bad as Bush has been.
Not that I'm a big Kerry fan, but I'm even less a fan of Bush. I thought
Carter was worthless, but Bush beats him in every negative way.
As far as voting for Hillary...
It depends on who would run against her, If the Republicans put a guy
like First, or Gingrich up, or any other whackjob up, hell yes, but if
it's McCain, no, he's about the only one I could vote for that I've
seen on the Republican side.. That's assuming that Cheney doesn't decide
to run, bad heart or not. If he did, I would vote for our local
dogcatcher, and he's a totally worthless dogcatcher who sees Pitbulls
everywhere, and thinks anyone who wants to have two are "fighting" them,
and got his job due to his last name, before voting for Dicko.
I've never voted by party, but it's getting to the point that I'm
considering voting "anti-republican" across the board.
I voted for Ford, then Reagan twice, Bush older once, Clinton twice,
Bush Lite once, and Kerry.
The 2000 election wasn't an election, it was more of a selection. I'm sure
Florida residents are well aware of the power of a vote. What if chad is
on the ballot in 2008?
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: CNN.com readers tell Bush to cut the ***** |
06 Nov 2005 08:12:16 PM |
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On 6 Nov 2005 10:24:37 -0800, wrote:
i want to know who on this ng *did* vote for mr. bush.
i suspect a large number did not vote at all...
snarkiness aside, who here is woman or man enuf to confess here,
publicly if relatively anonymously?
i myself voted for mr. kerry while holding my pert nose.
i can't wait to vote for mrs. clinton.
i know she's not perfect, but i like her seriousness.
she isn't the type to smile inanely and attempt to change the subject.
my friend at weork says she feels that americans will not vote a woman
iinto the top office at this time.
she feels mrs. clinton's gender is a fatal liability.
what are your thoughts?
I can imagine that "duke" would have.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: CNN.com readers tell Bush to cut the ***** |
05 Nov 2005 10:26:28 PM |
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On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 03:22:24 +0000, Get Real Shrub
<shrubbie@get.real.or.else.gov> wrote:
CNN.com readers advise the president
(CNN) -- Bring home the troops. Shake up the White House staff. Focus
on issues at home. Listen to voices on the right; listen to voices on
the left.
When asked how they would advise the president, CNN.com readers posed
these and many other ideas to lift the administration's lagging
approval ratings.
A year after President Bush was elected to a second term, he and his
administration face an array of troubles, including rising energy
prices, the indictment of a former top White House official and waning
public support for the war in Iraq.
How can Bush turn his presidency around? CNN.com readers offered
suggestions on a variety of themes:
1. Take responsibility.
Many advised the president to admit mistakes and move on. Drew Hunt of
Normal, Illinois, cited Harry Truman's famous advice, "The buck stops
here," and wrote, "If this administration would take responsibility
for its wrongdoings, rather than placing the blame elsewhere or, worse
still, forging ahead regardless of the wisdom of the decision, it
would go a long way toward restoring the integrity of our government."
(Read more recommendations on this theme. )
2. Clean house.
Others suggested the best way to shake off problems would be to shake
up staffing at the White House. Judith A. Shaffer of Punxsutawney,
Pennsylvania, advised Bush to fire his chief political strategist,
Karl Rove, who has been entangled in an investigation into the leak of
a CIA agent's name. Brett Finnell of Greenville, North Carolina,
recommended finding a new defense secretary.
(Read more recommendations on this theme.)
3. Bring home the troops.
An anonymous U.S. soldier serving in Pyongtek, South Korea, said the
president should show "humility to the U.S. soldiers in both Iraq and
Korea and let them come home ... and be with their families."
Martha Prater of Rusk, Texas, agreed but expressed concern that it may
be too late now to pull troops out: "We have gotten ourselves so deep
already that pulling out now would only put our country at greater
risk of terrorist attacks or worse."
(Read more recommendations on this theme.)
4. Focus on issues at home.
Some of those who wrote in suggested the president turn his attention
toward problems at home, putting priority on gas prices, disaster
relief and support for the poor.
"Remember that you are the president of the United States, not the
world," advised Mary from Temecula, California.
Andy Park of Key Largo, Florida, posed this idea for combating high
energy prices: "Push legislation to regulate oil companies as public
utilities -- just like electric, natural gas and telephone companies.
This would require that companies obtain regulatory approval before
raising gas prices." Hurricanes Katrina and Rita knocked out oil
platforms and pipelines as they cut back-to-back paths through the
U.S. Gulf Coast, causing a spike in energy prices.
Andrew M. Herold of Beltsville, Maryland, said the president could
give jobs and wages a boost by closing the country's borders to
illegal immigrants.
(Read more recommendations on this theme.)
5. Lean to the right (or to the left).
Many of those who wrote in advised the president to follow the lead of
a particular group. Respondents did not, however, agree on which group
that would be.
Cheri Windsor of Colorado recommended the president get "off the
evangelical tract." But Pedro Delgado of Miami, Florida, gave opposite
advice: "Give full true backing (no lip service) to the people that
voted twice to put a man in office to gain back our country. No
euthanasia, no abortion, no persecution of Christians, no judicial
tyranny, no homosexual privileges, no attacks on the institution of
marriage, no attacks on the family."
(Read more recommendations on this theme.)
http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/11/04/feedback.bush.themes/index.html
Did anyone suggest resignation, followed by enlisting as a private,
and going to Iraq?
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| User: "DaveJr" |
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| Title: Re: CNN.com readers tell Bush to cut the ***** |
05 Nov 2005 10:50:09 PM |
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"Michael Gray" <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in message
news:4e1rm19h2i20ambrrmrm29e58kusidunpq@4ax.com...
On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 03:22:24 +0000, Get Real Shrub
<shrubbie@get.real.or.else.gov> wrote:
CNN.com readers advise the president
(CNN) -- Bring home the troops. Shake up the White House staff. Focus
on issues at home. Listen to voices on the right; listen to voices on
the left.
When asked how they would advise the president, CNN.com readers posed
these and many other ideas to lift the administration's lagging
approval ratings.
A year after President Bush was elected to a second term, he and his
administration face an array of troubles, including rising energy
prices, the indictment of a former top White House official and waning
public support for the war in Iraq.
How can Bush turn his presidency around? CNN.com readers offered
suggestions on a variety of themes:
1. Take responsibility.
Many advised the president to admit mistakes and move on. Drew Hunt of
Normal, Illinois, cited Harry Truman's famous advice, "The buck stops
here," and wrote, "If this administration would take responsibility
for its wrongdoings, rather than placing the blame elsewhere or, worse
still, forging ahead regardless of the wisdom of the decision, it
would go a long way toward restoring the integrity of our government."
(Read more recommendations on this theme. )
2. Clean house.
Others suggested the best way to shake off problems would be to shake
up staffing at the White House. Judith A. Shaffer of Punxsutawney,
Pennsylvania, advised Bush to fire his chief political strategist,
Karl Rove, who has been entangled in an investigation into the leak of
a CIA agent's name. Brett Finnell of Greenville, North Carolina,
recommended finding a new defense secretary.
(Read more recommendations on this theme.)
3. Bring home the troops.
An anonymous U.S. soldier serving in Pyongtek, South Korea, said the
president should show "humility to the U.S. soldiers in both Iraq and
Korea and let them come home ... and be with their families."
Martha Prater of Rusk, Texas, agreed but expressed concern that it may
be too late now to pull troops out: "We have gotten ourselves so deep
already that pulling out now would only put our country at greater
risk of terrorist attacks or worse."
(Read more recommendations on this theme.)
4. Focus on issues at home.
Some of those who wrote in suggested the president turn his attention
toward problems at home, putting priority on gas prices, disaster
relief and support for the poor.
"Remember that you are the president of the United States, not the
world," advised Mary from Temecula, California.
Andy Park of Key Largo, Florida, posed this idea for combating high
energy prices: "Push legislation to regulate oil companies as public
utilities -- just like electric, natural gas and telephone companies.
This would require that companies obtain regulatory approval before
raising gas prices." Hurricanes Katrina and Rita knocked out oil
platforms and pipelines as they cut back-to-back paths through the
U.S. Gulf Coast, causing a spike in energy prices.
Andrew M. Herold of Beltsville, Maryland, said the president could
give jobs and wages a boost by closing the country's borders to
illegal immigrants.
(Read more recommendations on this theme.)
5. Lean to the right (or to the left).
Many of those who wrote in advised the president to follow the lead of
a particular group. Respondents did not, however, agree on which group
that would be.
Cheri Windsor of Colorado recommended the president get "off the
evangelical tract." But Pedro Delgado of Miami, Florida, gave opposite
advice: "Give full true backing (no lip service) to the people that
voted twice to put a man in office to gain back our country. No
euthanasia, no abortion, no persecution of Christians, no judicial
tyranny, no homosexual privileges, no attacks on the institution of
marriage, no attacks on the family."
(Read more recommendations on this theme.)
http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/11/04/feedback.bush.themes/index.html
Did anyone suggest resignation, followed by enlisting as a private,
and going to Iraq?
How about Guantanamo Bay, or better yet abu ghraib, naked, and on a leash
with a bag over his head.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: CNN.com readers tell Bush to cut the ***** |
06 Nov 2005 08:11:35 PM |
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On Sat, 5 Nov 2005 21:50:09 -0700, "DaveJr" <davesbrain@qwest.net>
wrote:
"Michael Gray" <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in message
news:4e1rm19h2i20ambrrmrm29e58kusidunpq@4ax.com...
On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 03:22:24 +0000, Get Real Shrub
<shrubbie@get.real.or.else.gov> wrote:
CNN.com readers advise the president
(CNN) -- Bring home the troops. Shake up the White House staff. Focus
on issues at home. Listen to voices on the right; listen to voices on
the left.
When asked how they would advise the president, CNN.com readers posed
these and many other ideas to lift the administration's lagging
approval ratings.
:
Did anyone suggest resignation, followed by enlisting as a private,
and going to Iraq?
How about Guantanamo Bay, or better yet abu ghraib, naked, and on a leash
with a bag over his head.
That's the second step...
He's got to have a chance to witness "Mission Accomplished" at the
wrong end of a rocket launcher, first.
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| User: "Dr. Sooz" |
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| Title: Re: CNN.com readers tell Bush to cut the ***** |
07 Nov 2005 11:20:22 AM |
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Did anyone suggest resignation, followed by enlisting as a private,
and going to Iraq?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Michael, you are a genius. It's so simple, yet beautiful.
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