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"Get Real Shrub" |
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06 Nov 2005 03:22:24 AM |
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CNN.com readers tell Bush to cut the ***** |
CNN.com readers advise the president
(CNN) -- Bring home the troops. Shake up the White House staff. Focus
on issues at home. Listen to voices on the right; listen to voices on
the left.
When asked how they would advise the president, CNN.com readers posed
these and many other ideas to lift the administration's lagging
approval ratings.
A year after President Bush was elected to a second term, he and his
administration face an array of troubles, including rising energy
prices, the indictment of a former top White House official and waning
public support for the war in Iraq.
How can Bush turn his presidency around? CNN.com readers offered
suggestions on a variety of themes:
1. Take responsibility.
Many advised the president to admit mistakes and move on. Drew Hunt of
Normal, Illinois, cited Harry Truman's famous advice, "The buck stops
here," and wrote, "If this administration would take responsibility
for its wrongdoings, rather than placing the blame elsewhere or, worse
still, forging ahead regardless of the wisdom of the decision, it
would go a long way toward restoring the integrity of our government."
(Read more recommendations on this theme. )
2. Clean house.
Others suggested the best way to shake off problems would be to shake
up staffing at the White House. Judith A. Shaffer of Punxsutawney,
Pennsylvania, advised Bush to fire his chief political strategist,
Karl Rove, who has been entangled in an investigation into the leak of
a CIA agent's name. Brett Finnell of Greenville, North Carolina,
recommended finding a new defense secretary.
(Read more recommendations on this theme.)
3. Bring home the troops.
An anonymous U.S. soldier serving in Pyongtek, South Korea, said the
president should show "humility to the U.S. soldiers in both Iraq and
Korea and let them come home ... and be with their families."
Martha Prater of Rusk, Texas, agreed but expressed concern that it may
be too late now to pull troops out: "We have gotten ourselves so deep
already that pulling out now would only put our country at greater
risk of terrorist attacks or worse."
(Read more recommendations on this theme.)
4. Focus on issues at home.
Some of those who wrote in suggested the president turn his attention
toward problems at home, putting priority on gas prices, disaster
relief and support for the poor.
"Remember that you are the president of the United States, not the
world," advised Mary from Temecula, California.
Andy Park of Key Largo, Florida, posed this idea for combating high
energy prices: "Push legislation to regulate oil companies as public
utilities -- just like electric, natural gas and telephone companies.
This would require that companies obtain regulatory approval before
raising gas prices." Hurricanes Katrina and Rita knocked out oil
platforms and pipelines as they cut back-to-back paths through the
U.S. Gulf Coast, causing a spike in energy prices.
Andrew M. Herold of Beltsville, Maryland, said the president could
give jobs and wages a boost by closing the country's borders to
illegal immigrants.
(Read more recommendations on this theme.)
5. Lean to the right (or to the left).
Many of those who wrote in advised the president to follow the lead of
a particular group. Respondents did not, however, agree on which group
that would be.
Cheri Windsor of Colorado recommended the president get "off the
evangelical tract." But Pedro Delgado of Miami, Florida, gave opposite
advice: "Give full true backing (no lip service) to the people that
voted twice to put a man in office to gain back our country. No
euthanasia, no abortion, no persecution of Christians, no judicial
tyranny, no homosexual privileges, no attacks on the institution of
marriage, no attacks on the family."
(Read more recommendations on this theme.)
http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/11/04/feedback.bush.themes/index.html
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| User: "DaveJr" |
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| Title: Re: CNN.com readers tell Bush to cut the ***** |
06 Nov 2005 04:16:08 AM |
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"Get Real Shrub" <shrubbie@get.real.or.else.gov> wrote in message
news:tgtqm1p9jgaekrbbhc7i4rm7qfbn9o18v3@news...
CNN.com readers advise the president
(CNN) -- Bring home the troops. Shake up the White House staff. Focus
on issues at home. Listen to voices on the right; listen to voices on
the left.
When asked how they would advise the president, CNN.com readers posed
these and many other ideas to lift the administration's lagging
approval ratings.
A year after President Bush was elected to a second term, he and his
administration face an array of troubles, including rising energy
prices, the indictment of a former top White House official and waning
public support for the war in Iraq.
How can Bush turn his presidency around? CNN.com readers offered
suggestions on a variety of themes:
1. Take responsibility.
Many advised the president to admit mistakes and move on. Drew Hunt of
Normal, Illinois, cited Harry Truman's famous advice, "The buck stops
here," and wrote, "If this administration would take responsibility
for its wrongdoings, rather than placing the blame elsewhere or, worse
still, forging ahead regardless of the wisdom of the decision, it
would go a long way toward restoring the integrity of our government."
(Read more recommendations on this theme. )
2. Clean house.
Others suggested the best way to shake off problems would be to shake
up staffing at the White House. Judith A. Shaffer of Punxsutawney,
Pennsylvania, advised Bush to fire his chief political strategist,
Karl Rove, who has been entangled in an investigation into the leak of
a CIA agent's name. Brett Finnell of Greenville, North Carolina,
recommended finding a new defense secretary.
(Read more recommendations on this theme.)
3. Bring home the troops.
An anonymous U.S. soldier serving in Pyongtek, South Korea, said the
president should show "humility to the U.S. soldiers in both Iraq and
Korea and let them come home ... and be with their families."
Martha Prater of Rusk, Texas, agreed but expressed concern that it may
be too late now to pull troops out: "We have gotten ourselves so deep
already that pulling out now would only put our country at greater
risk of terrorist attacks or worse."
(Read more recommendations on this theme.)
4. Focus on issues at home.
Some of those who wrote in suggested the president turn his attention
toward problems at home, putting priority on gas prices, disaster
relief and support for the poor.
"Remember that you are the president of the United States, not the
world," advised Mary from Temecula, California.
Andy Park of Key Largo, Florida, posed this idea for combating high
energy prices: "Push legislation to regulate oil companies as public
utilities -- just like electric, natural gas and telephone companies.
This would require that companies obtain regulatory approval before
raising gas prices." Hurricanes Katrina and Rita knocked out oil
platforms and pipelines as they cut back-to-back paths through the
U.S. Gulf Coast, causing a spike in energy prices.
Andrew M. Herold of Beltsville, Maryland, said the president could
give jobs and wages a boost by closing the country's borders to
illegal immigrants.
(Read more recommendations on this theme.)
5. Lean to the right (or to the left).
Many of those who wrote in advised the president to follow the lead of
a particular group. Respondents did not, however, agree on which group
that would be.
Cheri Windsor of Colorado recommended the president get "off the
evangelical tract." But Pedro Delgado of Miami, Florida, gave opposite
advice: "Give full true backing (no lip service) to the people that
voted twice to put a man in office to gain back our country. No
euthanasia, no abortion, no persecution of Christians, no judicial
tyranny, no homosexual privileges, no attacks on the institution of
marriage, no attacks on the family."
(Read more recommendations on this theme.)
http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/11/04/feedback.bush.themes/index.html
And think, Clinton was almost impeached over the intern. Seems petty
compared to whats going on now.
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| User: "Larry Heath" |
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06 Nov 2005 08:40:08 PM |
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"DaveJr" <davesbrain@qwest.net> wrote in message
news:Wtfbf.117$XA4.8049@news.uswest.net...
"Get Real Shrub" <shrubbie@get.real.or.else.gov> wrote in message
news:tgtqm1p9jgaekrbbhc7i4rm7qfbn9o18v3@news...
CNN.com readers advise the president
(CNN) -- Bring home the troops. Shake up the White House staff. Focus
on issues at home. Listen to voices on the right; listen to voices on
the left.
When asked how they would advise the president, CNN.com readers posed
these and many other ideas to lift the administration's lagging
approval ratings.
A year after President Bush was elected to a second term, he and his
administration face an array of troubles, including rising energy
prices, the indictment of a former top White House official and waning
public support for the war in Iraq.
How can Bush turn his presidency around? CNN.com readers offered
suggestions on a variety of themes:
1. Take responsibility.
Many advised the president to admit mistakes and move on. Drew Hunt of
Normal, Illinois, cited Harry Truman's famous advice, "The buck stops
here," and wrote, "If this administration would take responsibility
for its wrongdoings, rather than placing the blame elsewhere or, worse
still, forging ahead regardless of the wisdom of the decision, it
would go a long way toward restoring the integrity of our government."
(Read more recommendations on this theme. )
2. Clean house.
Others suggested the best way to shake off problems would be to shake
up staffing at the White House. Judith A. Shaffer of Punxsutawney,
Pennsylvania, advised Bush to fire his chief political strategist,
Karl Rove, who has been entangled in an investigation into the leak of
a CIA agent's name. Brett Finnell of Greenville, North Carolina,
recommended finding a new defense secretary.
(Read more recommendations on this theme.)
3. Bring home the troops.
An anonymous U.S. soldier serving in Pyongtek, South Korea, said the
president should show "humility to the U.S. soldiers in both Iraq and
Korea and let them come home ... and be with their families."
Martha Prater of Rusk, Texas, agreed but expressed concern that it may
be too late now to pull troops out: "We have gotten ourselves so deep
already that pulling out now would only put our country at greater
risk of terrorist attacks or worse."
(Read more recommendations on this theme.)
4. Focus on issues at home.
Some of those who wrote in suggested the president turn his attention
toward problems at home, putting priority on gas prices, disaster
relief and support for the poor.
"Remember that you are the president of the United States, not the
world," advised Mary from Temecula, California.
Andy Park of Key Largo, Florida, posed this idea for combating high
energy prices: "Push legislation to regulate oil companies as public
utilities -- just like electric, natural gas and telephone companies.
This would require that companies obtain regulatory approval before
raising gas prices." Hurricanes Katrina and Rita knocked out oil
platforms and pipelines as they cut back-to-back paths through the
U.S. Gulf Coast, causing a spike in energy prices.
Andrew M. Herold of Beltsville, Maryland, said the president could
give jobs and wages a boost by closing the country's borders to
illegal immigrants.
(Read more recommendations on this theme.)
5. Lean to the right (or to the left).
Many of those who wrote in advised the president to follow the lead of
a particular group. Respondents did not, however, agree on which group
that would be.
Cheri Windsor of Colorado recommended the president get "off the
evangelical tract." But Pedro Delgado of Miami, Florida, gave opposite
advice: "Give full true backing (no lip service) to the people that
voted twice to put a man in office to gain back our country. No
euthanasia, no abortion, no persecution of Christians, no judicial
tyranny, no homosexual privileges, no attacks on the institution of
marriage, no attacks on the family."
(Read more recommendations on this theme.)
http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/11/04/feedback.bush.themes/index.html
And think, Clinton was almost impeached over the intern. Seems petty
compared to whats going on now.
Ahh, he was impeached, by the House. He was not convicted by the Senate.
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment under United States
"Procedurally, it is a two-step process. The House of Representatives must
first pass "articles of impeachment" by a simple majority. The articles of
impeachment constitute the formal allegations. Upon passage, the defendant
has been "impeached."
Next, the Senate tries the accused. In the case of the impeachment of a
President, the Chief Justice of the United States presides over the
proceedings. Otherwise, the Vice President, in his capacity of President of
the Senate, or the President pro tempore of the Senate presides. This would
include the impeachment of the Vice President him- or herself. In order to
convict the accused, a two-thirds majority of the Senators present is
required."
So, in other words he was indicted by the House and acquitted by the Senate,
this would be roughly analogous to being indicted by the police/district
attorney and acquitted by the court.
Later Larry
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| User: "Kate " |
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06 Nov 2005 05:08:04 AM |
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On Sat, 5 Nov 2005 21:16:08 -0700, "DaveJr" <davesbrain@qwest.net>
wrote:
"Get Real Shrub" <shrubbie@get.real.or.else.gov> wrote in message
news:tgtqm1p9jgaekrbbhc7i4rm7qfbn9o18v3@news...
CNN.com readers advise the president
(CNN) -- Bring home the troops. Shake up the White House staff. Focus
on issues at home. Listen to voices on the right; listen to voices on
the left.
When asked how they would advise the president, CNN.com readers posed
these and many other ideas to lift the administration's lagging
approval ratings.
A year after President Bush was elected to a second term, he and his
administration face an array of troubles, including rising energy
prices, the indictment of a former top White House official and waning
public support for the war in Iraq.
How can Bush turn his presidency around? CNN.com readers offered
suggestions on a variety of themes:
1. Take responsibility.
Many advised the president to admit mistakes and move on. Drew Hunt of
Normal, Illinois, cited Harry Truman's famous advice, "The buck stops
here," and wrote, "If this administration would take responsibility
for its wrongdoings, rather than placing the blame elsewhere or, worse
still, forging ahead regardless of the wisdom of the decision, it
would go a long way toward restoring the integrity of our government."
(Read more recommendations on this theme. )
2. Clean house.
Others suggested the best way to shake off problems would be to shake
up staffing at the White House. Judith A. Shaffer of Punxsutawney,
Pennsylvania, advised Bush to fire his chief political strategist,
Karl Rove, who has been entangled in an investigation into the leak of
a CIA agent's name. Brett Finnell of Greenville, North Carolina,
recommended finding a new defense secretary.
(Read more recommendations on this theme.)
3. Bring home the troops.
An anonymous U.S. soldier serving in Pyongtek, South Korea, said the
president should show "humility to the U.S. soldiers in both Iraq and
Korea and let them come home ... and be with their families."
Martha Prater of Rusk, Texas, agreed but expressed concern that it may
be too late now to pull troops out: "We have gotten ourselves so deep
already that pulling out now would only put our country at greater
risk of terrorist attacks or worse."
(Read more recommendations on this theme.)
4. Focus on issues at home.
Some of those who wrote in suggested the president turn his attention
toward problems at home, putting priority on gas prices, disaster
relief and support for the poor.
"Remember that you are the president of the United States, not the
world," advised Mary from Temecula, California.
Andy Park of Key Largo, Florida, posed this idea for combating high
energy prices: "Push legislation to regulate oil companies as public
utilities -- just like electric, natural gas and telephone companies.
This would require that companies obtain regulatory approval before
raising gas prices." Hurricanes Katrina and Rita knocked out oil
platforms and pipelines as they cut back-to-back paths through the
U.S. Gulf Coast, causing a spike in energy prices.
Andrew M. Herold of Beltsville, Maryland, said the president could
give jobs and wages a boost by closing the country's borders to
illegal immigrants.
(Read more recommendations on this theme.)
5. Lean to the right (or to the left).
Many of those who wrote in advised the president to follow the lead of
a particular group. Respondents did not, however, agree on which group
that would be.
Cheri Windsor of Colorado recommended the president get "off the
evangelical tract." But Pedro Delgado of Miami, Florida, gave opposite
advice: "Give full true backing (no lip service) to the people that
voted twice to put a man in office to gain back our country. No
euthanasia, no abortion, no persecution of Christians, no judicial
tyranny, no homosexual privileges, no attacks on the institution of
marriage, no attacks on the family."
(Read more recommendations on this theme.)
http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/11/04/feedback.bush.themes/index.html
And think, Clinton was almost impeached over the intern. Seems petty
compared to whats going on now.
Gee - ya think?
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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06 Nov 2005 01:06:22 PM |
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(Kate ) wrote in
news:43818f35.440964375@news-west.newscene.com:
On Sat, 5 Nov 2005 21:16:08 -0700, "DaveJr" <davesbrain@qwest.net>
wrote:
"Get Real Shrub" <shrubbie@get.real.or.else.gov> wrote in message
news:tgtqm1p9jgaekrbbhc7i4rm7qfbn9o18v3@news...
<...>
http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/11/04/feedback.bush.themes/index.htm
l
And think, Clinton was almost impeached over the intern. Seems petty
compared to whats going on now.
Gee - ya think?
Obviously not.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"A thief is more moral than a congressman;
when a thief steals your money, he doesn't demand you thank him."
-- Walter Williams
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| User: "JTEM" |
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07 Nov 2005 05:42:23 AM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote
Obviously not.
No comment.
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| User: "duke" |
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07 Nov 2005 11:24:51 AM |
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On Mon, 7 Nov 2005 00:42:23 -0500, "JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote
Obviously not.
No comment.
We're winning.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "Dr. Sooz" |
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07 Nov 2005 05:18:23 PM |
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pulling out now would only put our country at greater
risk of terrorist attacks or worse."
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Huh? What th---???
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| User: "jeremyfive" |
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09 Nov 2005 03:19:41 PM |
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And disassociate yourself from human crap like Tom DeLay who has been
censured by the Congress so many times for corruption and misdeeds that
it's laughable.
It is so true to form that, in his Texas trial, DeLay is taking the
position that the judge is "not fair enough" to try him, and that the
town is "not fair enough". This is coming from the evil mastermind who
carried out the illegal redistricting scheme in Texas based on illegal
contributions by corporate backers. Criminals always blame their
prosecutors--or blame anyone else. (To hear the Republicans tell it,
it is as though he littered the sidewalk. Not so. This is big-time
crime, people.)
Get rid of Rove. Get rid of Cheney. Get rid of all who knew about the
dirty plan to blow the agent's cover.
Honestly, cooperating with impeachment proceedings would be the best
way out now.
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| User: "Racist Al Franken I hate Black people @ Err America" |
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06 Nov 2005 08:24:45 PM |
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CNn losing in the ratings to FOX resorts to BS as much as possible. Still
they have to can Aron Brown because even CNN can't take him anymore.
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| User: "Non-republicrat Voter" |
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06 Nov 2005 04:21:18 AM |
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On 05 Nov 2005, Get Real Shrub wrote:
CNN.com readers advise the president
(CNN) -- Bring home the troops. Shake up the White House staff. Focus
on issues at home. Listen to voices on the right; listen to voices on
the left.
When asked how they would advise the president, CNN.com readers posed
these and many other ideas to lift the administration's lagging
approval ratings.
A year after President Bush was elected to a second term, he and his
administration face an array of troubles, including rising energy
prices, the indictment of a former top White House official and waning
public support for the war in Iraq.
I just realized Shrubie is in power until early 2009.
2009. A scary number.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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06 Nov 2005 06:04:29 PM |
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Non-republicrat Voter <byebye@demopublicans.com> wrote:
On 05 Nov 2005, Get Real Shrub wrote:
CNN.com readers advise the president
(CNN) -- Bring home the troops. Shake up the White House staff. Focus
on issues at home. Listen to voices on the right; listen to voices on
the left.
When asked how they would advise the president, CNN.com readers posed
these and many other ideas to lift the administration's lagging
approval ratings.
A year after President Bush was elected to a second term, he and his
administration face an array of troubles, including rising energy
prices, the indictment of a former top White House official and waning
public support for the war in Iraq.
I just realized Shrubie is in power until early 2009.
Unless he's forced to deal with a democrat-controlled congress, in
which case he won't be able to do anything without saying "please".
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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07 Nov 2005 02:09:15 AM |
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On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 18:04:29 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) wrote:
Non-republicrat Voter <byebye@demopublicans.com> wrote:
On 05 Nov 2005, Get Real Shrub wrote:
CNN.com readers advise the president
(CNN) -- Bring home the troops. Shake up the White House staff. Focus
on issues at home. Listen to voices on the right; listen to voices on
the left.
When asked how they would advise the president, CNN.com readers posed
these and many other ideas to lift the administration's lagging
approval ratings.
A year after President Bush was elected to a second term, he and his
administration face an array of troubles, including rising energy
prices, the indictment of a former top White House official and waning
public support for the war in Iraq.
I just realized Shrubie is in power until early 2009.
Unless he's forced to deal with a democrat-controlled congress, in
which case he won't be able to do anything without saying "please".
Oh, that's easy!
He'll just be crowned "Emperor for life".
He's nearly there now...
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| User: "Attila" |
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06 Nov 2005 04:11:44 PM |
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On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 03:22:24 +0000, Get Real Shrub
<shrubbie@get.real.or.else.gov> in alt.abortion with message-id
<tgtqm1p9jgaekrbbhc7i4rm7qfbn9o18v3@news> wrote:
Off topic
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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| Title: Re: CNN.com readers tell Bush to cut the ***** |
06 Nov 2005 04:28:10 PM |
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Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote in
news:noasm1l9evqfbg30rfq27kn7d9r5k0bihc@4ax.com:
On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 03:22:24 +0000, Get Real Shrub
<shrubbie@get.real.or.else.gov> in alt.abortion with message-id
<tgtqm1p9jgaekrbbhc7i4rm7qfbn9o18v3@news> wrote:
Off topic
do you feel like a hypocrite criticizing others for doing what you do?
--
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| User: "" |
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06 Nov 2005 06:24:37 PM |
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i want to know who on this ng *did* vote for mr. bush.
i suspect a large number did not vote at all...
snarkiness aside, who here is woman or man enuf to confess here,
publicly if relatively anonymously?
i myself voted for mr. kerry while holding my pert nose.
i can't wait to vote for mrs. clinton.
i know she's not perfect, but i like her seriousness.
she isn't the type to smile inanely and attempt to change the subject.
my friend at weork says she feels that americans will not vote a woman
iinto the top office at this time.
she feels mrs. clinton's gender is a fatal liability.
what are your thoughts?
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| User: "Daniel Jackson" |
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06 Nov 2005 06:39:54 PM |
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<quatorzejames@netzero.com> wrote in message
news:1131301477.891021.60840@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
i want to know who on this ng *did* vote for mr. bush.
i suspect a large number did not vote at all...
snarkiness aside, who here is woman or man enuf to confess here,
publicly if relatively anonymously?
i myself voted for mr. kerry while holding my pert nose.
i can't wait to vote for mrs. clinton.
i know she's not perfect, but i like her seriousness.
she isn't the type to smile inanely and attempt to change the subject.
my friend at weork says she feels that americans will not vote a woman
iinto the top office at this time.
she feels mrs. clinton's gender is a fatal liability.
what are your thoughts?
Hello-though I do not vote, I have some thoughts that I feel should be
considered.
1)I feel, as a nation, we are ready for Presidents being women, being of
various ethnic backgrounds, and such
2)I also feel that due to the long history of the good old boy network, the
strong forces that resist change of any sort, the strong forces we see at
work attacking men as President, could in fact overshadow Mrs. Clinton, even
if she is the best candidate on earth.I feel she will be railroaded, she
will be resisted, the part hack machines will go into full attack
mode,merely because of the newness of having a Woman as Commander-in-Chief,
and the angriness of some of the public towards her husband.She may be
great!She may Win!
But, if she has to fight every day, tooth and nail, this vicious political
machine we have, how will she be able to get things done?To create change,
even small changes?
Do you understand my concern here?
I am non-political, because of various reasons.I am all over the political
spectrum.Consider what I have posted, sincerely posted, and let me know what
you think.
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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06 Nov 2005 08:41:25 PM |
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"Daniel Jackson" <Jackson_SG-1@comcast.net> wrote in
news:06ednS12MY1r0PPenZ2dnUVZ_vidnZ2d@giganews.com:
Hello-though I do not vote,
bzzzzz. diqualified.
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| User: "Dr. Sooz" |
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07 Nov 2005 05:25:37 PM |
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Hello-though I do not vote, I have some thoughts that I feel should be
considered.
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WHOA!
No fucking way. You don't vote? Then you STFU.
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08 Nov 2005 04:25:48 PM |
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Dr. Sooz wrote:
Hello-though I do not vote, I have some thoughts that I feel should be
considered.
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WHOA!
No fucking way. You don't vote? Then you STFU.
Those who don't vote have just as much right to complain as those who do.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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09 Nov 2005 02:04:54 AM |
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On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 16:25:48 GMT, Vandar <vandar69@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dr. Sooz wrote:
Hello-though I do not vote, I have some thoughts that I feel should be
considered.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
WHOA!
No fucking way. You don't vote? Then you STFU.
Those who don't vote have just as much right to complain as those who do.
But considerably less right to expect to be listened to.
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| User: "Vandar" |
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09 Nov 2005 01:49:06 PM |
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Michael Gray wrote:
On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 16:25:48 GMT, Vandar <vandar69@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dr. Sooz wrote:
Hello-though I do not vote, I have some thoughts that I feel should be
considered.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
WHOA!
No fucking way. You don't vote? Then you STFU.
Those who don't vote have just as much right to complain as those who do.
But considerably less right to expect to be listened to.
No less so than you.
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| User: "DaveJr" |
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06 Nov 2005 07:07:24 PM |
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i want to know who on this ng *did* vote for mr. bush.
i suspect a large number did not vote at all...
snarkiness aside, who here is woman or man enuf to confess here,
publicly if relatively anonymously?
i myself voted for mr. kerry while holding my pert nose.
i can't wait to vote for mrs. clinton.
i know she's not perfect, but i like her seriousness.
she isn't the type to smile inanely and attempt to change the subject.
my friend at weork says she feels that americans will not vote a woman
iinto the top office at this time.
she feels mrs. clinton's gender is a fatal liability.
what are your thoughts?
Hello-though I do not vote, I have some thoughts that I feel should be
considered.
1)I feel, as a nation, we are ready for Presidents being women, being of
various ethnic backgrounds, and such
2)I also feel that due to the long history of the good old boy network,
the
strong forces that resist change of any sort, the strong forces we see at
work attacking men as President, could in fact overshadow Mrs. Clinton,
even
if she is the best candidate on earth.I feel she will be railroaded, she
will be resisted, the part hack machines will go into full attack
mode,merely because of the newness of having a Woman as
Commander-in-Chief,
and the angriness of some of the public towards her husband.She may be
great!She may Win!
But, if she has to fight every day, tooth and nail, this vicious political
machine we have, how will she be able to get things done?To create change,
even small changes?
Do you understand my concern here?
I am non-political, because of various reasons.I am all over the political
spectrum.Consider what I have posted, sincerely posted, and let me know
what
you think.
Most christians I've met have deep issues with women. That they are
inferior in some way to the 'man'. It is embedded within thier belief
system that women somehow spawned from a mans rib to serve and obey man.
Thier god is a man. Some(if not most) Americans truly believe in the rib
theory. Christianity is a very sexist belief system. You do the math.
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| User: "Mark Sebree" |
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| Title: Re: CNN.com readers tell Bush to cut the ***** |
07 Nov 2005 01:00:14 AM |
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Daniel Jackson wrote:
<quatorzejames@netzero.com> wrote in message
news:1131301477.891021.60840@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
i want to know who on this ng *did* vote for mr. bush.
i suspect a large number did not vote at all...
snarkiness aside, who here is woman or man enuf to confess here,
publicly if relatively anonymously?
i myself voted for mr. kerry while holding my pert nose.
i can't wait to vote for mrs. clinton.
i know she's not perfect, but i like her seriousness.
she isn't the type to smile inanely and attempt to change the subject.
my friend at weork says she feels that americans will not vote a woman
iinto the top office at this time.
she feels mrs. clinton's gender is a fatal liability.
what are your thoughts?
Hello-though I do not vote,
Why not? While there are valid reasons that someone might not vote,
such as age, not a citizen of the USA, or felony conviction, if you
don't vote you should not complain.
I have some thoughts that I feel should be
considered.
1)I feel, as a nation, we are ready for Presidents being women, being of
various ethnic backgrounds, and such
2)I also feel that due to the long history of the good old boy network, the
strong forces that resist change of any sort, the strong forces we see at
work attacking men as President, could in fact overshadow Mrs. Clinton, even
if she is the best candidate on earth.I feel she will be railroaded, she
will be resisted, the part hack machines will go into full attack
mode,merely because of the newness of having a Woman as Commander-in-Chief,
and the angriness of some of the public towards her husband.She may be
great!She may Win!
But, if she has to fight every day, tooth and nail, this vicious political
machine we have, how will she be able to get things done?To create change,
even small changes?
Do you understand my concern here?
If you are concerned, then vote.
I am non-political, because of various reasons.
As are many people. But you should still vote.
I am all over the political
spectrum.Consider what I have posted, sincerely posted, and let me know what
you think.
While you raise good points, the one that you should have explained
was more important. Why don't you vote?
Mark Sebree
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| User: "Daniel Jackson" |
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| Title: Re: CNN.com readers tell Bush to cut the ***** |
07 Nov 2005 01:54:18 AM |
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I am a convicted felon.
Its a long story, if you care to read it.
Here are the places you can research about my case, the George Bush
Vice-Presidential Drug Enforcement Task Force, Bill Casey
and young men used and thrown away.
Its all true-start with this, the official US Government position to keep
the Taliban in power, straight from the horse as, err, mouth.
Subject: Taliban get good marks for poppy ban
This is the only article in this thread
Newsgroups: soc.culture.malaysia
Date: 2001-05-22 09:04:14 PST
Farmers told James P Callahan, Director of Asian affairs at the Bureau for
International Narcotics and Law Enforcement Affairs, "the Taliban used a
system of consensus-building." They framed the ban "in very religious
terms", citing Islamic prohibitions against drugs, and that made it hard to
defy, he added. Those who defied the edict were threatened with prison"
Here the kooks brag about supporting the religious fundamentalists and
their bogus "consensus building"-because of their supposed posture on
the drug war-those same people will tell you since they sell the heroin
here, they let it go because its coming *here*.
prison?Lol, they just shoot people.Thanks Callahan.Its clear as day any
fucking lie will do.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The following is not necessarily in order.
Good news for the few that read my posts
Only 1 message in topic
Daniel Jackson
Oct 29, 11:07 am
-----------------------------------
We were soldiers once-and young
Mikal 606
Oct 9, 7:55 am
--------------------------------------------
U.S. Marshalls-the upper class of the law enforcement spectrum
Mikal 606
------------------------------------------------
Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have ...
.... not, not that we know of My lawyer-Your honor, they have jumped the gun
and arrested
this man and are holding him because they in fact have no case against him
....
alt.atheism - Oct 20, 10:40 am by Mikal 606 - 1 message - 1 author
---------------------------------------------------------
Odds and ends
.... to add some things to that finished story about my case. As you may
recall, Burns
hated to be called anything but "Special Agent" MY lawyer, represneted by ML
....
alt.religion.kibology - Oct 30, 11:15 pm by Daniel Jackson - 1 message - 1
---------------------------------------------
I have come, I have advanced hastily. I cast light upon his ...
.... I'ma spark on the horizon Black Robes, truth and lies, endgame After a
few ... Prosecutors
laid on him, and he didnt believe all the ***** defendent lawyers laid on ...
soc.culture.jewish - Oct 23, 11:27 am by Daniel Jackson - 193 messages - 24
authors
---------------------------------------------------
American Justice has fallen, and it can never get back up
.... Kingsland decided, after hearing a Burns play by play, denies me any
bond.A ... to
coordinate a conspiracy,2) Intent to possess 66 pounds of
cocaine,3-providing a ...
alt.religion.kibology - Oct 22, 7:24 pm by terminator - 1 message - 1 author
--------------------------------------------
DOUBLECROSS
.... I arrive at Washington National, DC, and at the part where the
passengers come out
to the baggage claim, they they were.2 in suits.My DEA report reads "the ...
alt.politics.org.cia - Oct 9, 3:10 pm by Mikal 606 - 1 message - 1 author
"Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net> wrote in message
news:1131325214.365973.254960@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Daniel Jackson wrote:
<quatorzejames@netzero.com> wrote in message
news:1131301477.891021.60840@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
i want to know who on this ng *did* vote for mr. bush.
i suspect a large number did not vote at all...
snarkiness aside, who here is woman or man enuf to confess here,
publicly if relatively anonymously?
i myself voted for mr. kerry while holding my pert nose.
i can't wait to vote for mrs. clinton.
i know she's not perfect, but i like her seriousness.
she isn't the type to smile inanely and attempt to change the subject.
my friend at weork says she feels that americans will not vote a woman
iinto the top office at this time.
she feels mrs. clinton's gender is a fatal liability.
what are your thoughts?
Hello-though I do not vote,
Why not? While there are valid reasons that someone might not vote,
such as age, not a citizen of the USA, or felony conviction, if you
don't vote you should not complain.
I have some thoughts that I feel should be
considered.
1)I feel, as a nation, we are ready for Presidents being women, being of
various ethnic backgrounds, and such
2)I also feel that due to the long history of the good old boy network,
the
strong forces that resist change of any sort, the strong forces we see at
work attacking men as President, could in fact overshadow Mrs. Clinton,
even
if she is the best candidate on earth.I feel she will be railroaded, she
will be resisted, the part hack machines will go into full attack
mode,merely because of the newness of having a Woman as
Commander-in-Chief,
and the angriness of some of the public towards her husband.She may be
great!She may Win!
But, if she has to fight every day, tooth and nail, this vicious
political
machine we have, how will she be able to get things done?To create
change,
even small changes?
Do you understand my concern here?
If you are concerned, then vote.
I am non-political, because of various reasons.
As are many people. But you should still vote.
I am all over the political
spectrum.Consider what I have posted, sincerely posted, and let me know
what
you think.
While you raise good points, the one that you should have explained
was more important. Why don't you vote?
Mark Sebree
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| User: "Mark Sebree" |
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| Title: Re: CNN.com readers tell Bush to cut the ***** |
07 Nov 2005 03:58:59 AM |
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Daniel Jackson wrote:
I am a convicted felon.
Fair enough. I know that convicted felons are disallowed to legally
vote. And since you cannot legally vote (the reason for the caveat
that included), you not voting is understandable.
The point that was being made by many people here is that many people
do not vote but can, and yet complain about how the country is run when
they have not tried to do the simplest and easiest thing available to
them to fix it.
I do hope that you live in a state where you will be able to get your
voting rights back eventually.
Mark Sebree
Its a long story, if you care to read it.
Here are the places you can research about my case, the George Bush
Vice-Presidential Drug Enforcement Task Force, Bill Casey
and young men used and thrown away.
Its all true-start with this, the official US Government position to keep
the Taliban in power, straight from the horse as, err, mouth.
Subject: Taliban get good marks for poppy ban
This is the only article in this thread
Newsgroups: soc.culture.malaysia
Date: 2001-05-22 09:04:14 PST
Farmers told James P Callahan, Director of Asian affairs at the Bureau for
International Narcotics and Law Enforcement Affairs, "the Taliban used a
system of consensus-building." They framed the ban "in very religious
terms", citing Islamic prohibitions against drugs, and that made it hard to
defy, he added. Those who defied the edict were threatened with prison"
Here the kooks brag about supporting the religious fundamentalists and
their bogus "consensus building"-because of their supposed posture on
the drug war-those same people will tell you since they sell the heroin
here, they let it go because its coming *here*.
prison?Lol, they just shoot people.Thanks Callahan.Its clear as day any
fucking lie will do.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The following is not necessarily in order.
Good news for the few that read my posts
Only 1 message in topic
Daniel Jackson
Oct 29, 11:07 am
-----------------------------------
We were soldiers once-and young
Mikal 606
Oct 9, 7:55 am
--------------------------------------------
U.S. Marshalls-the upper class of the law enforcement spectrum
Mikal 606
------------------------------------------------
Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have ...
... not, not that we know of My lawyer-Your honor, they have jumped the gun
and arrested
this man and are holding him because they in fact have no case against him
...
alt.atheism - Oct 20, 10:40 am by Mikal 606 - 1 message - 1 author
---------------------------------------------------------
Odds and ends
... to add some things to that finished story about my case. As you may
recall, Burns
hated to be called anything but "Special Agent" MY lawyer, represneted by ML
...
alt.religion.kibology - Oct 30, 11:15 pm by Daniel Jackson - 1 message - 1
---------------------------------------------
I have come, I have advanced hastily. I cast light upon his ...
... I'ma spark on the horizon Black Robes, truth and lies, endgame After a
few ... Prosecutors
laid on him, and he didnt believe all the ***** defendent lawyers laid on ...
soc.culture.jewish - Oct 23, 11:27 am by Daniel Jackson - 193 messages - 24
authors
---------------------------------------------------
American Justice has fallen, and it can never get back up
... Kingsland decided, after hearing a Burns play by play, denies me any
bond.A ... to
coordinate a conspiracy,2) Intent to possess 66 pounds of
cocaine,3-providing a ...
alt.religion.kibology - Oct 22, 7:24 pm by terminator - 1 message - 1 author
--------------------------------------------
DOUBLECROSS
... I arrive at Washington National, DC, and at the part where the
passengers come out
to the baggage claim, they they were.2 in suits.My DEA report reads "the ...
alt.politics.org.cia - Oct 9, 3:10 pm by Mikal 606 - 1 message - 1 author
"Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net> wrote in message
news:1131325214.365973.254960@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Daniel Jackson wrote:
<quatorzejames@netzero.com> wrote in message
news:1131301477.891021.60840@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
i want to know who on this ng *did* vote for mr. bush.
i suspect a large number did not vote at all...
snarkiness aside, who here is woman or man enuf to confess here,
publicly if relatively anonymously?
i myself voted for mr. kerry while holding my pert nose.
i can't wait to vote for mrs. clinton.
i know she's not perfect, but i like her seriousness.
she isn't the type to smile inanely and attempt to change the subject.
my friend at weork says she feels that americans will not vote a woman
iinto the top office at this time.
she feels mrs. clinton's gender is a fatal liability.
what are your thoughts?
Hello-though I do not vote,
Why not? While there are valid reasons that someone might not vote,
such as age, not a citizen of the USA, or felony conviction, if you
don't vote you should not complain.
I have some thoughts that I feel should be
considered.
1)I feel, as a nation, we are ready for Presidents being women, being of
various ethnic backgrounds, and such
2)I also feel that due to the long history of the good old boy network,
the
strong forces that resist change of any sort, the strong forces we see at
work attacking men as President, could in fact overshadow Mrs. Clinton,
even
if she is the best candidate on earth.I feel she will be railroaded, she
will be resisted, the part hack machines will go into full attack
mode,merely because of the newness of having a Woman as
Commander-in-Chief,
and the angriness of some of the public towards her husband.She may be
great!She may Win!
But, if she has to fight every day, tooth and nail, this vicious
political
machine we have, how will she be able to get things done?To create
change,
even small changes?
Do you understand my concern here?
If you are concerned, then vote.
I am non-political, because of various reasons.
As are many people. But you should still vote.
I am all over the political
spectrum.Consider what I have posted, sincerely posted, and let me know
what
you think.
While you raise good points, the one that you should have explained
was more important. Why don't you vote?
Mark Sebree
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07 Nov 2005 05:29:47 PM |
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Daniel Jackson wrote:
I am a convicted felon.
Fair enough.
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Yes.
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| User: "Boy Toy" |
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07 Nov 2005 01:32:15 AM |
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On 6 Nov 2005 17:00:14 -0800, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
wrote in message
<1131325214.365973.254960@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
Daniel Jackson wrote:
<quatorzejames@netzero.com> wrote in message
news:1131301477.891021.60840@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
i want to know who on this ng *did* vote for mr. bush.
i suspect a large number did not vote at all...
snarkiness aside, who here is woman or man enuf to confess here,
publicly if relatively anonymously?
i myself voted for mr. kerry while holding my pert nose.
i can't wait to vote for mrs. clinton.
i know she's not perfect, but i like her seriousness.
she isn't the type to smile inanely and attempt to change the subject.
my friend at weork says she feels that americans will not vote a woman
iinto the top office at this time.
she feels mrs. clinton's gender is a fatal liability.
what are your thoughts?
Hello-though I do not vote,
Why not? While there are valid reasons that someone might not vote,
such as age, not a citizen of the USA, or felony conviction, if you
don't vote you should not complain.
...
Maybe because the U.S. sticks its nose into the internal affairs of
other countries all the time? What comes around goes around.
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| User: "Mark Sebree" |
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| Title: Re: CNN.com readers tell Bush to cut the ***** |
07 Nov 2005 03:52:31 AM |
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Boy Toy wrote:
On 6 Nov 2005 17:00:14 -0800, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
wrote in message
<1131325214.365973.254960@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
Daniel Jackson wrote:
<quatorzejames@netzero.com> wrote in message
news:1131301477.891021.60840@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
i want to know who on this ng *did* vote for mr. bush.
i suspect a large number did not vote at all...
snarkiness aside, who here is woman or man enuf to confess here,
publicly if relatively anonymously?
i myself voted for mr. kerry while holding my pert nose.
i can't wait to vote for mrs. clinton.
i know she's not perfect, but i like her seriousness.
she isn't the type to smile inanely and attempt to change the subject.
my friend at weork says she feels that americans will not vote a woman
iinto the top office at this time.
she feels mrs. clinton's gender is a fatal liability.
what are your thoughts?
Hello-though I do not vote,
Why not? While there are valid reasons that someone might not vote,
such as age, not a citizen of the USA, or felony conviction, if you
don't vote you should not complain.
...
Maybe because the U.S. sticks its nose into the internal affairs of
other countries all the time? What comes around goes around.
That is why I included the caveat that there are valid reasons that he
might not be able to vote legally. Being a citizen of another country
is certainly a valid reason. If he cannot vote legally, then I have no
problem with him not doing so. And therefore, he still retains the
right to complain.
And I completely agree with you. The US does stick its nose into the
internal affairs of other countries all the time, and often to the
detriment of those countries, especially during the Bush
administration.
Mark Sebree
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| User: "Boy Toy" |
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| Title: Re: CNN.com readers tell Bush to cut the ***** |
07 Nov 2005 04:01:49 AM |
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On 6 Nov 2005 19:52:31 -0800, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
wrote in message
<1131335551.135318.64820@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Boy Toy wrote:
On 6 Nov 2005 17:00:14 -0800, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
wrote in message
<1131325214.365973.254960@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
Daniel Jackson wrote:
<quatorzejames@netzero.com> wrote in message
news:1131301477.891021.60840@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
i want to know who on this ng *did* vote for mr. bush.
i suspect a large number did not vote at all...
snarkiness aside, who here is woman or man enuf to confess here,
publicly if relatively anonymously?
i myself voted for mr. kerry while holding my pert nose.
i can't wait to vote for mrs. clinton.
i know she's not perfect, but i like her seriousness.
she isn't the type to smile inanely and attempt to change the subject.
my friend at weork says she feels that americans will not vote a woman
iinto the top office at this time.
she feels mrs. clinton's gender is a fatal liability.
what are your thoughts?
Hello-though I do not vote,
Why not? While there are valid reasons that someone might not vote,
such as age, not a citizen of the USA, or felony conviction, if you
don't vote you should not complain.
...
Maybe because the U.S. sticks its nose into the internal affairs of
other countries all the time? What comes around goes around.
That is why I included the caveat that there are valid reasons that he
might not be able to vote legally. Being a citizen of another country
is certainly a valid reason. If he cannot vote legally, then I have no
problem with him not doing so. And therefore, he still retains the
right to complain.
And I completely agree with you. The US does stick its nose into the
internal affairs of other countries all the time, and often to the
detriment of those countries, especially during the Bush
administration.
Mark Sebree
OK. I interpreted your remark incorrectly.
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| User: "Dr. Sooz" |
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| Title: Re: CNN.com readers tell Bush to cut the ***** |
07 Nov 2005 05:22:52 PM |
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i want to know who on this ng *did* vote for mr. bush.
i suspect a large number did not vote at all...
~~~~~~~~~~~~
I voted. I voted against Bush. I always vote. If you don't vote, you
can't ***** about anything.
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