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"navi-gater" |
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28 Jan 2005 08:39:38 PM |
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"Coalition" forces kill more Iraqis than "Insurgents" |
Well I suppose it was obvious to most people here. The numbers now made
available apparently show that Iraqi civilians are being killed and maimed
in greater numbers by the US and allies than the insurgents....
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/panorama/4217413.stm
gater.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: "Coalition" forces kill more Iraqis than "Insurgents" |
29 Jan 2005 08:58:30 AM |
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"navi-gater" <gater@the-gate.net> wrote in
news:Xns95ECDC5C086B6thegatenet@65.32.5.122:
Well I suppose it was obvious to most people here. The numbers now
made available apparently show that Iraqi civilians are being killed
and maimed in greater numbers by the US and allies than the
insurgents....
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/panorama/4217413.stm
gater.
I notice that they don't describe how they discriminate between "killed by
the authorities" and "killed by the insurgents". Nor do they describe how
the determine whether any particular person "killed by the authorities" is
a civilian or not.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Support bacteria! That's all the culture many people will ever have.
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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| Title: Re: "Coalition" forces kill more Iraqis than "Insurgents" |
29 Jan 2005 12:24:05 PM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:Xns95ED657F5C171fstone69@205.188.138.161...
"navi-gater" <gater@the-gate.net> wrote in
news:Xns95ECDC5C086B6thegatenet@65.32.5.122:
Well I suppose it was obvious to most people here. The numbers now
made available apparently show that Iraqi civilians are being killed
and maimed in greater numbers by the US and allies than the
insurgents....
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/panorama/4217413.stm
gater.
I notice that they don't describe how they discriminate between "killed by
the authorities" and "killed by the insurgents". Nor do they describe how
the determine whether any particular person "killed by the authorities" is
a civilian or not.
But with a similar lack of knowledge, you believe whatever your Lord Bush
says. Are you applying a double standard to what you will accept as
evidence?
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Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: "Coalition" forces kill more Iraqis than "Insurgents" |
29 Jan 2005 12:53:04 PM |
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in
news:1eidnZHlVKPdSGbcRVn-iQ@io.com:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:Xns95ED657F5C171fstone69@205.188.138.161...
"navi-gater" <gater@the-gate.net> wrote in
news:Xns95ECDC5C086B6thegatenet@65.32.5.122:
Well I suppose it was obvious to most people here. The numbers now
made available apparently show that Iraqi civilians are being killed
and maimed in greater numbers by the US and allies than the
insurgents....
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/panorama/4217413.stm
gater.
I notice that they don't describe how they discriminate between
"killed by the authorities" and "killed by the insurgents". Nor do
they describe how the determine whether any particular person "killed
by the authorities" is a civilian or not.
But with a similar lack of knowledge, you believe whatever your Lord
Bush says.
No, he's not and no, I don't.
Are you applying a double standard to what you will accept
as evidence?
No. But thanks for the egregious insults. You only help to validate my
viewpoint.
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Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Support bacteria! That's all the culture many people will ever have.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: "Coalition" forces kill more Iraqis than "Insurgents" |
29 Jan 2005 05:07:30 PM |
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On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 12:24:05 -0600, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com>
said in alt.atheism:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:Xns95ED657F5C171fstone69@205.188.138.161...
I notice that they don't describe how they discriminate between "killed by
the authorities" and "killed by the insurgents". Nor do they describe how
the determine whether any particular person "killed by the authorities" is
a civilian or not.
But with a similar lack of knowledge, you believe whatever your Lord Bush
says. Are you applying a double standard to what you will accept as
evidence?
Is Fred still Fred? What a silly question, Denis.
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"A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything."
- Friedrich Nietzsche
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rukbat at verizon dot net
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: "Coalition" forces kill more Iraqis than "Insurgents" |
30 Jan 2005 01:17:08 PM |
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Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in
news:qo5ov0dqkcavtnmn2nsm357e1h1vb8ue56@4ax.com:
On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 12:24:05 -0600, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com>
said in alt.atheism:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:Xns95ED657F5C171fstone69@205.188.138.161...
I notice that they don't describe how they discriminate between
"killed by the authorities" and "killed by the insurgents". Nor do
they describe how the determine whether any particular person
"killed by the authorities" is a civilian or not.
But with a similar lack of knowledge, you believe whatever your Lord
Bush says. Are you applying a double standard to what you will accept
as evidence?
Is Fred still Fred? What a silly question, Denis.
Eat *****, Al.
BBC apologises for misinterpreting iraqi death stats.
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L29661541.htm
LONDON, Jan 29 (Reuters) - The BBC apologised on Saturday for
erroneously reporting that U.S.-led and Iraqi forces may be responsible
for the deaths of 60 percent of Iraqi civilians killed in conflict over
the last six months.
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Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Support bacteria! That's all the culture many people will ever have.
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| User: "John Hearsey" |
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| Title: Re: "Coalition" forces kill more Iraqis than "Insurgents" |
30 Jan 2005 05:44:08 AM |
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navi-gater <gater@the-gate.net> wrote in message
news:Xns95ECDC5C086B6thegatenet@65.32.5.122...
Well I suppose it was obvious to most people here. The numbers now made
available apparently show that Iraqi civilians are being killed and maimed
in greater numbers by the US and allies than the insurgents....
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/panorama/4217413.stm
gater.
People who trust anything reported by the BBC are stupid.
BBC apologises for misinterpreting iraqi death stats.
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L29661541.htm
LONDON, Jan 29 (Reuters) - The BBC apologised on Saturday for erroneously
reporting that U.S.-led and Iraqi forces may be responsible for the deaths
of 60 percent of Iraqi civilians killed in conflict over the last six
months.
The British broadcaster said on Friday in broadcasts and a news statement
that its Panorama investigative show would air a report on Sunday citing
"confidential" records from Iraq's health ministry to support the
contention.
Iraq's health minister said the BBC misinterpreted the statistics it had
received and had ignored statements from the ministry clarifying the
figures.
"Today, the Iraqi Ministry of Health has issued a statement clarifying
matters that were the subject of several conversations with the BBC before
the report was published, and denying that this conclusion can be drawn from
the figures relating to 'military operations'," the BBC said in a news
statement on Saturday.
"The BBC regrets mistakes in its published and broadcast reports yesterday."
A BBC spokesman said the statistics would not feature in the Panorama show
on Sunday.
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John Hearsey
aa1886
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: "Coalition" forces kill more Iraqis than "Insurgents" |
30 Jan 2005 08:08:07 PM |
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On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 11:44:08 -0000, "John Hearsey"
<JHtest@testzolien.fsnet.co.uk> said in alt.atheism:
A BBC spokesman said the statistics would not feature in the Panorama show
on Sunday.
I wonder who got to them? Blair, or the US directly?
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"If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so
long as I'm the dictator."
- G W Bush (Washington, D.C., Dec. 19, 2000)
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rukbat at verizon dot net
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: "Coalition" forces kill more Iraqis than "Insurgents" |
30 Jan 2005 10:29:55 PM |
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Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in
news:dn4rv09bid0701fac5dhr7809sjaft14cq@4ax.com:
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 11:44:08 -0000, "John Hearsey"
<JHtest@testzolien.fsnet.co.uk> said in alt.atheism:
A BBC spokesman said the statistics would not feature in the Panorama
show on Sunday.
I wonder who got to them? Blair, or the US directly?
The truth got to them.
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Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Support bacteria! That's all the culture many people will ever have.
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