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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Yang"
Date: 24 Jan 2004 04:07:10 PM
Object: Colin Powell: Maybe Bush Did Make All This ***** Up
Powell: Possible Iraq had no banned arms
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By George Gedda
Jan. 24, 2004 | TBLISI, Georgia (AP) -- Secretary of State Colin
Powell held out the possibility Saturday that prewar Iraq may not have
possessed weapons of mass destruction.
Powell was asked about comments last week by David Kay, the outgoing
leader of a U.S. weapons search team in Iraq, that he did not believe
Iraq had large quantities of chemical or biological weapons.
"The answer to that question is, we don't know yet," Powell told
reporters as he traveling to this former Soviet republic to attend the
inauguration Sunday of President-elect Mikhail Saakashvili.
Powell acknowledged that the United States thought deposed leader
Saddam Hussein had banned weapons, but added, "We had questions that
needed to be answered.
"What was it?" he asked. "One hundred tons, 500 tons or zero tons? Was
it so many liters of anthrax, 10 times that amount or nothing?"
Almost a year has passed since Powell's speech before the U.N.
Security Council in which he accused Iraq of violating a U.N. weapons
ban.
Since then, the Bush administration has been less categorical on the
issue, contending that Saddam was actively pursuing banned weapons.
The administration generally has avoided the issue of actual
possession.
President Bush, in his State of the Union address on Tuesday, cited an
interm report by Kay in October in which the inspector claimed to have
found dozens of weapons-related programs in Iraq. Those programs would
be continuing if the United States had not acted to oust Saddam's
government, Bush said.
Vice President ***** Cheney, in an interview Wednesday with National
Public Radio, said the administration had not given up on the search
for weapons. The "jury is still out," he said.
"It's going to take some additional, considerable period of time in
order to look in all the cubby holes and the ammo dumps and all the
places in Iraq where you might expect to find something like that,"
Cheney said. "It doesn't take a large storage space to store deadly
toxins, or even just the capacity to produce it."
White House press secretary Scott McClellan said Friday that the
administration stands by its assertions that Iraq had banned weapons
at the time of the U.S.-led war and that it was only a matter of time
before inspectors uncover their location.
"We believe the truth will come out," he said.
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User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: Colin Powell: Maybe Bush Did Make All This ***** Up 24 Jan 2004 06:45:35 PM
On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 22:07:10 GMT,
(Yang) posted
in alt.atheism:

White House press secretary Scott McClellan said Friday that the
administration stands by its assertions that Iraq had banned weapons
at the time of the U.S.-led war and that it was only a matter of time
before inspectors uncover their location.

How can they possibly have verifiable evidence that the weapons exist
(which is what they're claiming) but not have a clue where they are?
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User: "Therion Ware"

Title: Re: Colin Powell: Maybe Bush Did Make All This ***** Up 24 Jan 2004 07:05:02 PM
On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 00:45:35 GMT in alt.atheism, Al Klein (Al Klein
<rukbat@pern.invalid>) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism

On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 22:07:10 GMT,

(Yang) posted
in alt.atheism:

White House press secretary Scott McClellan said Friday that the
administration stands by its assertions that Iraq had banned weapons
at the time of the U.S.-led war and that it was only a matter of time
before inspectors uncover their location.


How can they possibly have verifiable evidence that the weapons exist
(which is what they're claiming) but not have a clue where they are?

I understand they kept a copy of the receipts.
.
User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: Colin Powell: Maybe Bush Did Make All This ***** Up 25 Jan 2004 01:56:02 PM
On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 01:05:02 +0000, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> posted in alt.atheism:

On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 00:45:35 GMT in alt.atheism, Al Klein (Al Klein
<rukbat@pern.invalid>) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism

On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 22:07:10 GMT,

(Yang) posted
in alt.atheism:

White House press secretary Scott McClellan said Friday that the
administration stands by its assertions that Iraq had banned weapons
at the time of the U.S.-led war and that it was only a matter of time
before inspectors uncover their location.

How can they possibly have verifiable evidence that the weapons exist
(which is what they're claiming) but not have a clue where they are?

I understand they kept a copy of the receipts.

[Rim shot]
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soul's place in hell, so yours could go to Heaven. Don't hold your breath."
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User: "I Think..Therefore I Am Clayton"

Title: Re: Colin Powell: Maybe Bush Did Make All This ***** Up 25 Jan 2004 12:50:33 AM
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:9b4610phl63bspqejtbq417jnv2jp72cjg@Pern.rk...

On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 22:07:10 GMT,

(Yang) posted
in alt.atheism:

White House press secretary Scott McClellan said Friday that the
administration stands by its assertions that Iraq had banned weapons
at the time of the U.S.-led war and that it was only a matter of time
before inspectors uncover their location.


How can they possibly have verifiable evidence that the weapons exist
(which is what they're claiming) but not have a clue where they are?

Silly....God told them of course!
.
User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: Colin Powell: Maybe Bush Did Make All This ***** Up 25 Jan 2004 01:56:50 PM
On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 16:50:33 +1000, "I Think..Therefore I Am Clayton"
<cjfat@SPAMBLOCKnotmyemail.com> posted in alt.atheism:

"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:9b4610phl63bspqejtbq417jnv2jp72cjg@Pern.rk...

On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 22:07:10 GMT,

(Yang) posted
in alt.atheism:

White House press secretary Scott McClellan said Friday that the
administration stands by its assertions that Iraq had banned weapons
at the time of the U.S.-led war and that it was only a matter of time
before inspectors uncover their location.


How can they possibly have verifiable evidence that the weapons exist
(which is what they're claiming) but not have a clue where they are?


Silly....God told them of course!

Now that I'd believe - and that he told them WHERE the WMD are, in the
same manner.
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the world according to its own ethical standards.
It was called the "Dark Ages".
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User: "Christopher A. Lee"

Title: Re: Colin Powell: Maybe Bush Did Make All This ***** Up 24 Jan 2004 07:22:53 PM
On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 00:45:35 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:

On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 22:07:10 GMT,

(Yang) posted
in alt.atheism:

White House press secretary Scott McClellan said Friday that the
administration stands by its assertions that Iraq had banned weapons
at the time of the U.S.-led war and that it was only a matter of time
before inspectors uncover their location.


How can they possibly have verifiable evidence that the weapons exist
(which is what they're claiming) but not have a clue where they are?

As was pointed out at the time,they kept the receipts for the stuff
they sold them a dozen years earlier.
But the crap they made with it had a short shelf-life.
.


User: "duke"

Title: Re: Colin Powell: Maybe Bush Did Make All This ***** Up 25 Jan 2004 09:20:40 AM
On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 22:07:10 GMT,
(Yang) wrote:

Powell: Possible Iraq had no banned arms

Then why did your hero head 'rat clinton say they did?
.
User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: Colin Powell: Maybe Bush Did Make All This ***** Up 25 Jan 2004 06:39:58 PM
On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 09:20:40 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> posted
in alt.atheism:

On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 22:07:10 GMT,

(Yang) wrote:

Powell: Possible Iraq had no banned arms

Then why did your hero head 'rat clinton say they did?

They did then. They didn't in 2003, when Powell and Bush claimed they
did.
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The ones that learn by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence.
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User: "Yang"

Title: Re: Colin Powell: Maybe Bush Did Make All This ***** Up 25 Jan 2004 08:36:27 PM
On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 09:20:40 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:

On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 22:07:10 GMT,

(Yang) wrote:

Powell: Possible Iraq had no banned arms


Then why did your hero head 'rat clinton say they did?

Typical ***** chickenhawk draft dodger. When a real soldier like
Powell admits this WMD charade, all of a sudden his words aren't good
enough.
-----
Yang
a.a. #28
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Socerey Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec
The Bush 'balanced' budget: -525 billion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: -3 million jobs and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -511 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
.
User: "Michael Gray"

Title: Re: Colin Powell: Maybe Bush Did Make All This ***** Up 25 Jan 2004 09:03:42 PM
On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 02:36:27 GMT,
(Yang) wrote:

On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 09:20:40 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:

On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 22:07:10 GMT,

(Yang) wrote:

Powell: Possible Iraq had no banned arms


Then why did your hero head 'rat clinton say they did?



Typical ***** chickenhawk draft dodger. When a real soldier like
Powell admits this WMD charade, all of a sudden his words aren't good
enough.



-----

Yang
a.a. #28
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Socerey Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec

The Bush 'balanced' budget: -525 billion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: -3 million jobs and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -511 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting

Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless

Re-read 1984.
All will become crystal clear.
.
User: "Yang"

Title: Re: Colin Powell: Maybe Bush Did Make All This ***** Up 25 Jan 2004 11:45:39 PM
On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 13:33:42 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 02:36:27 GMT,

(Yang) wrote:

On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 09:20:40 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:

On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 22:07:10 GMT,

(Yang) wrote:

Powell: Possible Iraq had no banned arms


Then why did your hero head 'rat clinton say they did?



Typical ***** chickenhawk draft dodger. When a real soldier like
Powell admits this WMD charade, all of a sudden his words aren't good
enough.


Re-read 1984.
All will become crystal clear.

It's sad to see that Orwell was off by 20 year huh?
-----
Yang
a.a. #28
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Socerey Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec
The Bush 'balanced' budget: -525 billion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: -3 million jobs and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -511 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
.
User: "Lord Calvert"

Title: Re: Colin Powell: Maybe Bush Did Make All This ***** Up 25 Jan 2004 11:57:17 PM

Re-read 1984.
All will become crystal clear.


It's sad to see that Orwell was off by 20 year huh?

Heinlein was only off by 12. He predicted in 1950 that the US would vote
itself a religious dictatorship in 2012.
Rich Goranson, Amherst, NY, USA (aa#MCMXCIX, a-vet#1)
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leads by a slippery slope toward constitutional democracy." - Robert Anton
Wilson
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User: "Yang"

Title: Re: Colin Powell: Maybe Bush Did Make All This ***** Up 26 Jan 2004 12:00:07 AM
On 26 Jan 2004 05:57:17 GMT, forlornh@aol.complex (Lord Calvert)
wrote:

Re-read 1984.
All will become crystal clear.


It's sad to see that Orwell was off by 20 year huh?


Heinlein was only off by 12. He predicted in 1950 that the US would vote
itself a religious dictatorship in 2012.

Yikes!
-----
Yang
a.a. #28
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Socerey Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec
The Bush 'balanced' budget: -525 billion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: -3 million jobs and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -511 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
.


User: "Michael Gray"

Title: Re: Colin Powell: Maybe Bush Did Make All This ***** Up 26 Jan 2004 12:57:30 AM
On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 05:45:39 GMT,
(Yang) wrote:

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 13:33:42 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 02:36:27 GMT,

(Yang) wrote:

On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 09:20:40 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:

On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 22:07:10 GMT,

(Yang) wrote:

Powell: Possible Iraq had no banned arms


Then why did your hero head 'rat clinton say they did?



Typical ***** chickenhawk draft dodger. When a real soldier like
Powell admits this WMD charade, all of a sudden his words aren't good
enough.


Re-read 1984.
All will become crystal clear.


It's sad to see that Orwell was off by 20 year huh?



-----

Yang
a.a. #28
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Socerey Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec

The Bush 'balanced' budget: -525 billion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: -3 million jobs and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -511 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting

Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless

I'm actually serious this time: re-read it:
http://www.online-literature.com/orwell/1984/
It's an uncannily accurate description of Cheney's approach.
And no, it's not sad to see that Eric Arthur Blair was off by 20
years.
It's a minor relief.
.
User: "Yang"

Title: Re: Colin Powell: Maybe Bush Did Make All This ***** Up 26 Jan 2004 01:31:22 AM
On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 17:27:30 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:


I'm actually serious this time: re-read it:
http://www.online-literature.com/orwell/1984/
It's an uncannily accurate description of Cheney's approach.

I should re-read that.
-----
Yang
a.a. #28
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Socerey Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec
The Bush 'balanced' budget: -525 billion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: -3 million jobs and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -512 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
.







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