Religions > Atheism > Columnist: The "monkey see, monkey do" approach to science
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Columnist: The "monkey see, monkey do" approach to science |
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Simply put, the scientific community and the public educational system
have essentially embraced a — forgive the pun — "monkey see, monkey
do" approach to science, which is justified by the court's distortion
of the First Amendment that establishes evolutionary humanism as the
quasi-official religion of the public schools.
People in America today are deeply concerned about what they see to be
a moral meltdown in our country. Many understand that the ethical
implications of a purely naturalistic approach to science can be
far-reaching. If life is simply an accident, what's wrong with
aborting children? Why not euthanize the aged and the handicapped? Why
not end the institution of marriage? Why tell the truth? Why not steal
or kill? As Fyodor Dostoevsy said: "If there is no God, all things are
permissible."
Perhaps the words of Francis Bacon are relevant: "A little science
estranges a man from God; a little more brings him back."
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Read it at http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/creech/050117
J. Spaceman
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18 Jan 2005 12:50:36 PM |
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<< Subject: Columnist: The "monkey see, monkey do" approach to science
From: Jason Spaceman
Date: Tue, Jan 18, 2005 2:01 AM
Message-id: <4dcpu056529tjjbltcqbpkd8vf88599tg2@4ax.com>
From the article:
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Simply put, the scientific community and the public educational system
have essentially embraced a — forgive the pun — "monkey see, monkey
do" approach to science, which is justified by the court's distortion
of the First Amendment that establishes evolutionary humanism as the
quasi-official religion of the public schools.
People in America today are deeply concerned about what they see to be
a moral meltdown in our country. Many understand that the ethical
implications of a purely naturalistic approach to science can be
far-reaching. If life is simply an accident, what's wrong with
aborting children? Why not euthanize the aged and the handicapped? Why
not end the institution of marriage? Why tell the truth? Why not steal
or kill? As Fyodor Dostoevsy said: "If there is no God, all things are
permissible."
Perhaps the words of Francis Bacon are relevant: "A little science
estranges a man from God; a little more brings him back."
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Read it at http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/creech/050117
J. Spaceman
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Nothing original here. The old whine that only Xianity can give us morals.
Of course refering to a scientific theory as a "religion" is silly, but then
again so are the creationists.
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18 Jan 2005 01:05:31 PM |
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On 18 Jan 2005 12:50:36 GMT, (SReeseMe) wrote:
<< Subject: Columnist: The "monkey see, monkey do" approach to science
From: Jason Spaceman
Date: Tue, Jan 18, 2005 2:01 AM
Message-id: <4dcpu056529tjjbltcqbpkd8vf88599tg2@4ax.com>
From the article:
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Simply put, the scientific community and the public educational system
have essentially embraced a — forgive the pun — "monkey see, monkey
do" approach to science, which is justified by the court's distortion
of the First Amendment that establishes evolutionary humanism as the
quasi-official religion of the public schools.
Quite frankly, anybody who says that is either a liar or an idiot.
People in America today are deeply concerned about what they see to be
a moral meltdown in our country.
Because of fundamentalists who see notrhing wrong with lying and
inposing their delusions obn everybody else.
Many understand that the ethical
implications of a purely naturalistic approach to science can be
far-reaching. If life is simply an accident, what's wrong with
aborting children? Why not euthanize the aged and the handicapped? Why
not end the institution of marriage? Why tell the truth? Why not steal
or kill? As Fyodor Dostoevsy said: "If there is no God, all things are
permissible."
Which is of course a slanderous falsehood about those less gullible
and less ignorant than they themselves are.
It reveals a heck of a lot about the sociopaths who would do all that,
and that the only thing stopping them is a fragile belief.
Perhaps the words of Francis Bacon are relevant: "A little science
estranges a man from God; a little more brings him back."
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Read it at http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/creech/050117
J. Spaceman
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Nothing original here. The old whine that only Xianity can give us morals.
Of course refering to a scientific theory as a "religion" is silly, but then
again so are the creationists.
It's more than that. It's disshonest. The sad and scary part is how
many people who have been brainwashed into stupidity, believe their
lies
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18 Jan 2005 08:02:04 AM |
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People in America today are deeply concerned about what they see to be
a moral meltdown in our country. Many understand that the ethical
implications of a purely naturalistic approach to science can be
far-reaching. If life is simply an accident, what's wrong with
aborting children? Why not euthanize the aged and the handicapped? Why
not end the institution of marriage? Why tell the truth? Why not steal
or kill? As Fyodor Dostoevsy said: "If there is no God, all things are
permissible."
Why do you think that just because life is simply an accident that there is
nothing wrong with aborting children? BTW, the institution of marriage is
ended every day. Eventually about half of all married couples end it without
any help from the theory of evolution. And I would say that religion has
been used as a motivator for cruelty far more than scientific thought has
been over the history of humankind.
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18 Jan 2005 06:46:22 PM |
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On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:02:04 -0800, "ođin" <ođin@ragnarok.com> said in
alt.atheism:
Why do you think that just because life is simply an accident that there is
nothing wrong with aborting children?
1) Life isn't an accident.
2) No children are ever aborted.
3) If life were an accident that wouldn't have anything to do with
abortion being no one's business but the woman's.
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"I have repeatedly said that in my opinion the idea of a personal God is
a childlike one. You may call me an agnostic, but I do not share the
crusading spirit of the professional atheist whose fervor is mostly due
to a painful act of liberation from the fetters of religious
indoctrination received in youth. I prefer an attitude of humility
corresponding to the weakness of our intellectual understanding of
nature and of our own being."
- Albert Einstein to Guy H. Raner Jr., Sept. 28, 1949, from article by
Michael R. Gilmore in Skeptic magazine, Vol. 5, No. 2, 1997
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19 Jan 2005 02:39:16 AM |
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Read it at http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/creech/050117
In an earlier essay Creech expresses a viewpoint that Thomas Jefferson
knew less about the founders intentions than Creech does.
http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/creech/041213
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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18 Jan 2005 01:10:45 PM |
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In our last episode <4dcpu056529tjjbltcqbpkd8vf88599tg2@4ax.com>, Jason
Spaceman lept out of the bushes shouting:
Simply put, the scientific community...
Should begin the migration to Europe, leaving us to stew in our own
idiotic juices.
There simply isn't any reason to keep trying to help people who repeatedly
kick you in the teeth...
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Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
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18 Jan 2005 01:17:24 PM |
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On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 07:10:45 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In our last episode <4dcpu056529tjjbltcqbpkd8vf88599tg2@4ax.com>, Jason
Spaceman lept out of the bushes shouting:
Simply put, the scientific community...
Should begin the migration to Europe, leaving us to stew in our own
idiotic juices.
There simply isn't any reason to keep trying to help people who repeatedly
kick you in the teeth...
Some of us can't do that easily. Even if we came from Europe in the
brain drain. We've set up homes here, got families, etc.
But you're right. It totally pisses me off that they attack the
various sciences and technologies, and those who practice them. While
at the same time cheerfully accepting the fruits of what they attack.
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18 Jan 2005 02:26:47 PM |
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I am practicint the Canandian National Anthem ....
Oh, Canada....
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18 Jan 2005 04:46:24 PM |
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In our last episode
<1106058407.699069.161100@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
zawadzki@yahoo.com lept out of the bushes shouting:
I am practicint the Canandian National Anthem .... Oh, Canada....
If I just wasn't so hostile to cold weather...
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Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
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25 Jan 2005 05:36:10 PM |
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Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
I am practicint the Canandian National Anthem .... Oh, Canada....
If I just wasn't so hostile to cold weather...
Seriously. If Canada had an area with the climate of the Sonoran
Desert, I'd have gone 4 years ago. >=<
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herder
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26 Jan 2005 02:15:34 PM |
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In our last episode
<1106674570.912220.59700@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, skyeyes lumbered
into the room and mumbled:
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
I am practicint the Canandian National Anthem .... Oh, Canada....
If I just wasn't so hostile to cold weather...
Seriously. If Canada had an area with the climate of the Sonoran Desert,
I'd have gone 4 years ago. >=<
If only California would secede...
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Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
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27 Jan 2005 04:31:31 PM |
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California...? They can keep California. I want Arizona to secede.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herder
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27 Jan 2005 04:36:31 PM |
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"skyeyes" <skyeyes@dakotacom.net> wrote in message
news:1106843491.167409.127330@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
California...? They can keep California. I want Arizona to secede.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herder
Oh my. I'm going to Scottsdale in March with the husband - Some kind of
award thing from his company where they're putting us up at this great
looking resort:
http://marriott.com/property/propertypage/PHXDR
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27 Jan 2005 06:02:14 PM |
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Robibnikoff wrote:
"skyeyes" <skyeyes@dakotacom.net> wrote in message
news:1106843491.167409.127330@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
California...? They can keep California. I want Arizona to secede.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herder
Oh my. I'm going to Scottsdale in March with the husband - Some kind of
award thing from his company where they're putting us up at this great
looking resort:
http://marriott.com/property/propertypage/PHXDR
Oh, this is too good.
We have got to meet. All of us!
How long will you be here? Where and when would you like to meet? Have
you ever been here before? Do you like mild, medium or hot?
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There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
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Rev. Karl E. Taylor
A.A #1143 PLONKED by Bob
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
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27 Jan 2005 06:48:19 PM |
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"Rev. Karl E. Taylor" <ktayloraz@getnet.net> wrote in message
news:n3nnc2-nlt.ln1@dhcpdns2.ddsoho.com...
Robibnikoff wrote:
"skyeyes" <skyeyes@dakotacom.net> wrote in message
news:1106843491.167409.127330@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
California...? They can keep California. I want Arizona to secede.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herder
Oh my. I'm going to Scottsdale in March with the husband - Some kind of
award thing from his company where they're putting us up at this great
looking resort:
http://marriott.com/property/propertypage/PHXDR
Oh, this is too good.
We have got to meet. All of us!
How long will you be here? Where and when would you like to meet? Have
you ever been here before? Do you like mild, medium or hot?
LOL! Slow down! Okay, we're going to be there March 12th to the 15th. The
husband has been to Arizona before, but I haven't. I like medium. I'm
assuming that we're going to be able to get away from the other people from
his company, so hopefully we can get together :)
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27 Jan 2005 06:32:14 PM |
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Rev. Karl E. Taylor wrote:
Oh, this is too good.
We have got to meet. All of us!
Ooooooo, like a mini-con? An AZ-CON?
<Contemplates drive to Phoenix environs> Dang, I'll have to clean the
car....and get the tranny fixed....
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herder
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27 Jan 2005 06:29:54 PM |
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Schweeeet! Never been there, but the place has a good rep.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herder
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27 Jan 2005 06:49:37 PM |
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"skyeyes" <skyeyes@dakotacom.net> wrote in message
news:1106850594.528383.87260@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Schweeeet! Never been there, but the place has a good rep.
LOL, of course, it has the world's hugest swimming pool and poolside area
and I hate being out on the sun - Or at least laying out in the sun :)
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27 Jan 2005 09:27:47 PM |
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Robibnikoff wrote:
LOL, of course, it has the world's hugest swimming pool
and poolside area and I hate being out on the sun - Or
at least laying out in the sun :)
Well, you're coming in March...there's a slight chance that it might be
cool/overcast/raining. Although it's more likely to be in 80's and
sunny by then. In which case, we 'Zonans will still be wearing coats
and sweaters. <G>
Sugar, if you (like me) are among the solar-challenged, bring SPF 50
sunscreen with you. No, I'm not kidding, and yes, there is such a
thing, although it can be hard to find.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herder
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27 Jan 2005 10:01:30 PM |
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"skyeyes" <skyeyes@dakotacom.net> wrote in message
news:1106861267.421878.197700@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Robibnikoff wrote:
LOL, of course, it has the world's hugest swimming pool
and poolside area and I hate being out on the sun - Or
at least laying out in the sun :)
Well, you're coming in March...there's a slight chance that it might be
cool/overcast/raining. Although it's more likely to be in 80's and
sunny by then. In which case, we 'Zonans will still be wearing coats
and sweaters. <G>
80's?!?!?!? Eck! Sorry, but I prefer 50 to 75F :)
Sugar, if you (like me) are among the solar-challenged, bring SPF 50
sunscreen with you. No, I'm not kidding, and yes, there is such a
thing, although it can be hard to find.
I've got 45 and that seems to work quite well. Don't need anymore chunks of
my face removed :/
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26 Jan 2005 11:44:13 PM |
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On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 08:15:34 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> said in alt.atheism:
In our last episode
<1106674570.912220.59700@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, skyeyes lumbered
into the room and mumbled:
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
I am practicint the Canandian National Anthem .... Oh, Canada....
If I just wasn't so hostile to cold weather...
Seriously. If Canada had an area with the climate of the Sonoran Desert,
I'd have gone 4 years ago. >=<
If only California would secede...
How's "slipping into the ocean" as an alternative? :)
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"A stupid man's report of what a clever man says is never accurate because he
unconsciously translates what he hears into something he can understand."
-- Bertrand Russell.
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at verizon dot net
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27 Jan 2005 12:47:52 AM |
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In our last episode <jpagv017j1pae43cbq4ekluc5q1qc2ub8s@4ax.com>, Al Klein
lumbered into the room and mumbled:
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 08:15:34 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> said in alt.atheism:
In our last episode
<1106674570.912220.59700@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, skyeyes lumbered
into the room and mumbled:
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
I am practicint the Canandian National Anthem .... Oh, Canada....
If I just wasn't so hostile to cold weather...
Seriously. If Canada had an area with the climate of the Sonoran
Desert, I'd have gone 4 years ago. >=<
If only California would secede...
How's "slipping into the ocean" as an alternative? :)
That's a *myth!
It's the *rest of country that's going to fall off into the ocean...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
-- Seneca the Younger
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27 Jan 2005 05:53:21 AM |
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On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 08:15:34 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In our last episode
<1106674570.912220.59700@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, skyeyes lumbered
into the room and mumbled:
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
I am practicint the Canandian National Anthem .... Oh, Canada....
If I just wasn't so hostile to cold weather...
Seriously. If Canada had an area with the climate of the Sonoran Desert,
I'd have gone 4 years ago. >=<
If only California would secede...
I wrote a letter to Schwartzeneggar suggesting that, since
Californians send so much more money to the Feds than they get back,
seceding would be a good way to solve our state's budget problems. He
never answered.
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Mark Isaak eciton (at) earthlink (dot) net
"Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of
the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are
being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and
exposing the country to danger." -- Hermann Goering
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27 Jan 2005 01:48:30 PM |
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In our last episode <mh0hv01mcoo2lkc2hcpuqcirq2q709kjuf@4ax.com>, Mark
Isaak lumbered into the room and mumbled:
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 08:15:34 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In our last episode
<1106674570.912220.59700@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, skyeyes lumbered
into the room and mumbled:
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
I am practicint the Canandian National Anthem .... Oh, Canada....
If I just wasn't so hostile to cold weather...
Seriously. If Canada had an area with the climate of the Sonoran
Desert, I'd have gone 4 years ago. >=<
If only California would secede...
I wrote a letter to Schwartzeneggar suggesting that, since Californians
send so much more money to the Feds than they get back, seceding would be
a good way to solve our state's budget problems. He never answered.
I was thinking since the "blue states" are made of such horrible people,
they should keep their dirty tax money to themselves so they won't
corrupt the pure "red states."
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Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
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01 Feb 2005 02:07:23 AM |
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In article <Fv6dnYzyG6d8cmXcRVn-iQ@megapath.net>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In our last episode <mh0hv01mcoo2lkc2hcpuqcirq2q709kjuf@4ax.com>, Mark
Isaak lumbered into the room and mumbled:
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 08:15:34 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In our last episode
<1106674570.912220.59700@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, skyeyes lumbered
into the room and mumbled:
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
I am practicint the Canandian National Anthem .... Oh, Canada....
If I just wasn't so hostile to cold weather...
Seriously. If Canada had an area with the climate of the Sonoran
Desert, I'd have gone 4 years ago. >=<
If only California would secede...
I wrote a letter to Schwartzeneggar suggesting that, since Californians
send so much more money to the Feds than they get back, seceding would be
a good way to solve our state's budget problems. He never answered.
I was thinking since the "blue states" are made of such horrible people,
they should keep their dirty tax money to themselves so they won't
corrupt the pure "red states."
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Those dirty old blue states have, on the average, higher personal
income, lower divorce rates, higher level of education, lower
obesity, and higher IQ than the red states.
There are also some arguments that they show better family values:
"For all the Bible Belt talk about family values, it is the
people from Kerry's home state, along with their neighbors in the
Northeast corridor, who live these values. Indeed, it is the "blue"
states, led led by Massachusetts and Connecticut, that have been
willing to invest more money over time to foster the reality of what
it means to leave no children behind. And they have been among the
nation's leaders in promoting a living wage as their goal in public
employment. The money they have invested in their future is known
more popularly as taxes; these so-called liberal people see that
money is their investment to help insure a compassionate, humane
society. Family values are much more likely to be found in the
states mistakenly called out-of-the-mainstream liberal. By their
behavior you can know them as the true conservatives. They are
showing how to conserve family life through the way they live their
family values."
--William V. D'Antonio
Professor Emeritus at University of Connecticut
Visiting Research Professor at Catholic University
earle
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References:
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2004
/10/31/walking_the_walk_on_family_values/
Rating IQ vs. election outcome (2004):
http://chrisevans3d.com/files/iq.htm
Rating level of education vs. election outcome (2000):
http://www.ginandtacos.com/education.jpg
Rating divorce rate vs. election outcome:
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2004
/10/31/walking_the_walk_on_family_values/
earle
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01 Feb 2005 01:35:48 PM |
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In our last episode
<earle.jones-6891DB.18072331012005@comcast.dca.giganews.com>, Earle Jones
lumbered into the room and mumbled:
In article <Fv6dnYzyG6d8cmXcRVn-iQ@megapath.net>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In our last episode <mh0hv01mcoo2lkc2hcpuqcirq2q709kjuf@4ax.com>, Mark
Isaak lumbered into the room and mumbled:
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 08:15:34 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In our last episode
<1106674570.912220.59700@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, skyeyes
lumbered into the room and mumbled:
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
I am practicint the Canandian National Anthem .... Oh, Canada....
If I just wasn't so hostile to cold weather...
Seriously. If Canada had an area with the climate of the Sonoran
Desert, I'd have gone 4 years ago. >=<
If only California would secede...
I wrote a letter to Schwartzeneggar suggesting that, since
Californians send so much more money to the Feds than they get back,
seceding would be a good way to solve our state's budget problems. He
never answered.
I was thinking since the "blue states" are made of such horrible people,
they should keep their dirty tax money to themselves so they won't
corrupt the pure "red states."
*
Those dirty old blue states have, on the average, higher personal income,
lower divorce rates, higher level of education, lower obesity, and higher
IQ than the red states.
There are also some arguments that they show better family values:
"For all the Bible Belt talk about family values, it is the
people from Kerry's home state, along with their neighbors in the
Northeast corridor, who live these values. Indeed, it is the "blue"
states, led led by Massachusetts and Connecticut, that have been willing
to invest more money over time to foster the reality of what it means to
leave no children behind. And they have been among the nation's leaders in
promoting a living wage as their goal in public employment. The money they
have invested in their future is known more popularly as taxes; these
so-called liberal people see that money is their investment to help insure
a compassionate, humane society. Family values are much more likely to be
found in the states mistakenly called out-of-the-mainstream liberal. By
their behavior you can know them as the true conservatives. They are
showing how to conserve family life through the way they live their family
values."
--William V. D'Antonio
Professor Emeritus at University of Connecticut Visiting
Research Professor at Catholic University
Interestingly enough, Massachusetts apparently has one of (if not the)
lowest divorce rates in the country.
So, apparently, if you want to save marriage, you have to follow their
lead...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
-----------------------------------------------------------
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
-- Seneca the Younger
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| User: "Earle Jones" |
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01 Feb 2005 07:19:31 PM |
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In article <RfSdnSBVqd3KGWLcRVn-sw@megapath.net>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In our last episode
<earle.jones-6891DB.18072331012005@comcast.dca.giganews.com>, Earle Jones
lumbered into the room and mumbled:
In article <Fv6dnYzyG6d8cmXcRVn-iQ@megapath.net>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In our last episode <mh0hv01mcoo2lkc2hcpuqcirq2q709kjuf@4ax.com>, Mark
Isaak lumbered into the room and mumbled:
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 08:15:34 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In our last episode
<1106674570.912220.59700@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, skyeyes
lumbered into the room and mumbled:
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
I am practicint the Canandian National Anthem .... Oh, Canada....
If I just wasn't so hostile to cold weather...
Seriously. If Canada had an area with the climate of the Sonoran
Desert, I'd have gone 4 years ago. >=<
If only California would secede...
I wrote a letter to Schwartzeneggar suggesting that, since
Californians send so much more money to the Feds than they get back,
seceding would be a good way to solve our state's budget problems. He
never answered.
I was thinking since the "blue states" are made of such horrible people,
they should keep their dirty tax money to themselves so they won't
corrupt the pure "red states."
*
Those dirty old blue states have, on the average, higher personal income,
lower divorce rates, higher level of education, lower obesity, and higher
IQ than the red states.
There are also some arguments that they show better family values:
"For all the Bible Belt talk about family values, it is the
people from Kerry's home state, along with their neighbors in the
Northeast corridor, who live these values. Indeed, it is the "blue"
states, led led by Massachusetts and Connecticut, that have been willing
to invest more money over time to foster the reality of what it means to
leave no children behind. And they have been among the nation's leaders in
promoting a living wage as their goal in public employment. The money they
have invested in their future is known more popularly as taxes; these
so-called liberal people see that money is their investment to help insure
a compassionate, humane society. Family values are much more likely to be
found in the states mistakenly called out-of-the-mainstream liberal. By
their behavior you can know them as the true conservatives. They are
showing how to conserve family life through the way they live their family
values."
--William V. D'Antonio
Professor Emeritus at University of Connecticut Visiting
Research Professor at Catholic University
Interestingly enough, Massachusetts apparently has one of (if not the)
lowest divorce rates in the country.
So, apparently, if you want to save marriage, you have to follow their
lead...
*
Looking at it another way, if you are fat, dumb, poor, and
uneducated, you probably voted for Bush.
earle
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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18 Jan 2005 06:49:11 PM |
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On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 10:46:24 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> said in alt.atheism:
In our last episode
<1106058407.699069.161100@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
zawadzki@yahoo.com lept out of the bushes shouting:
I am practicint the Canandian National Anthem .... Oh, Canada....
If I just wasn't so hostile to cold weather...
No need to move. Stay where you are. The cold weather is coming to
you.
--
"I am a deeply religious nonbeliever.... This is a somewhat new kind of religion."
- Letter to Hans Muehsam March 30, 1954; Einstein Archive 38-434
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at verizon dot net
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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18 Jan 2005 09:14:24 PM |
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In our last episode <igmqu09f4tv2fv9291uu14uqh84j9gdl7m@4ax.com>, Al Klein
lept out of the bushes shouting:
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 10:46:24 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> said in alt.atheism:
In our last episode
<1106058407.699069.161100@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
zawadzki@yahoo.com lept out of the bushes shouting:
I am practicint the Canandian National Anthem .... Oh, Canada....
If I just wasn't so hostile to cold weather...
No need to move. Stay where you are. The cold weather is coming to you.
<peers over copy of "Buying Real Estate in Mexico">
Trying to keep up the reputation of the "red states," a letter to the
editor appeared a couple of months ago in the local paper by some idiot
who was sniggering over global warming. We're having a very mild winter
and his point was "ain't global warming great?"
I thought about sending off an email to the paper but, you know, people
like that are impenetrable. He'd probably dismiss my comments as some
"LIEbrul" trying to say "warm" means "cold."
(I mean, you *know how *those people are)
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
-- Seneca the Younger
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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18 Jan 2005 10:38:32 PM |
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On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 15:14:24 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> said in alt.atheism:
Trying to keep up the reputation of the "red states," a letter to the
editor appeared a couple of months ago in the local paper by some idiot
who was sniggering over global warming. We're having a very mild winter
Wind chills below zero in NYC aren't exactly "mild", unless you go
back about 18,000 years.
I thought about sending off an email to the paper but, you know, people
like that are impenetrable. He'd probably dismiss my comments as some
"LIEbrul" trying to say "warm" means "cold."
But it does. Those who don't understand science are doomed to be
befuddled by it.
Here's how it goes:
We get global warming.
The glaciers on the shores of the North Atlantic melt at higher rates.
This dilutes the water in the North Atlantic (less salt).
Less salty water weighs less than saltier water.
The Gulf Stream:
Water flowing north cools off.
Cooler water is heavier than warmer water.
The cooler water sinks down, drawing more water north from warmer
climates.
This keeps the East coast of North America warmer than it would
otherwise be.
When the water gets diluted, it either sinks at a slower rate than
before, or doesn't sink at all (depending on how diluted it gets, and
the relative temperatures).
If the water doesn't sink, it doesn't draw warm water from the south
up to the north.
When the Gulf Stream slows down, or stops completely the East coast of
North America cools off.
So the warmer the world gets, the colder New York gets. Global
warming causes colder weather.
--
"The doctrine that the earth is neither the center of the universe nor immovable, but
moves even with a daily rotation, is absurd, and both philosophically and theologically
false, and at the least an error of faith."
- Catholic Church's decision against Galileo Galilei
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rukbat at verizon dot net
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