Religions > Atheism > Come Back, Robur (Celtic God of Oak Trees), All is Forgiven
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Come Back, Robur (Celtic God of Oak Trees), All is Forgiven |
More on the Religious Right wingnuts. This guy is good.
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Ellis Weiner
12.19.2006
Come Back, Robur (Celtic God of Oak Trees), All is Forgiven
A couple weeks ago I got in the car and turned on the radio and there it
was: a voice I didn't recognize, speaking in a tone I knew all too well.
You've heard it, too--the sing-songy, unjustly-put-upon,
whiny-but-brave, aggrieved-but-stoic vocal stylings of the Virtuous Man
Confronting a Wicked World. It is a tone that finds its purest
expression in the genial-if-lunatic yodelings of Pat Robertson, a
three-part harmony of moral smugness, pseudo-humility, and a deeply
self-satisfying self-satisfaction.
I knew the voice on the radio wasn't Robertson's, but I also
knew--without actually focusing on the words--that it belonged to
someone who would be pleased to set down to a nice Sunday supper with
Pat, and trade humorous anecdotes about how some people, such as myself,
would one day burn in Hell forever. When the voice went on about how
"marriage has been the keystone of societies for centuries, and that has
meant marriage between a man and a woman," I knew I'd gotten it right,
and waited for the mystery guest to be identified.
Turns out it was Senator Sam Brownback, R. Kan., who has the gall to
(among other things) feature, on his website, a running "National Debt
Clock." Yes, Senator Sam's keeping stern, admonishing tabs on the very
debt he and his party have run up like...well, I was going to say, "like
drunken sailors," but that would be unfair. Say what you will about
drunken sailors, at least they only spend money they have. Sam and his
party have been spending money they don't have. They've been spending
money like corrupt Republicans.
Brownback had made news that week by announcing the formation of a
committee to investigate the feasibility of his running for President in
2008. Now, hold that thought in one lobe of your overtaxed brain, while
my lovely assistant wheels out onto the stage something called the
Constitution Restoration Act of 2005.
At first glance, having a Constitution Restoration Act would seem to be
a fine idea. Who doesn't think our good old Constitution--the actual
four pages in the National Archives--could use a touch-up, a day at the
spa, and some "work"? You bring in a couple paper-and-parchment experts,
hire a calligrapher for some spot re-pointing, run the whole thing
through the laminator once or twice, and America's founding document is
good to go for another two centuries.
At second glance, however, we discover that the Constitution Restoration
Act (CRA) has nothing to do with actually restoring the actual
Constitution. Instead, like many other Republican pieces of legislation,
it's a deceptively-named bombing sortie in their continual campaign of
class and cultural warfare. Like its nasty, equally-deceitful cousins
(the "Clear Skies Initiative," the "No Child Left Behind Act," and so
on), this one comprises a large and dependably sneaky helping of
reactionary fantasizing whose only goal is to placate the pious and/or
enrich the greedy, at the expense of everyone else.
But wait, here it comes now:
Notwithstanding any other provision of this chapter, the Supreme Court
shall not have jurisdiction to review, by appeal, writ of certiorari, or
otherwise, any matter to the extent that relief is sought against an
element of Federal, State, or local government, or against an officer of
Federal, State, or local government (whether or not acting in official
personal capacity), by reason of that element's or officer's
acknowledgement of God as the sovereign source of law, liberty, or
government.
Oh, sure, it's just a lot of lawyer talk, but read it again. If you're
half as smart as I think you are--and I think you are--you can see just
what kind of a fast one this bill's sponsors are trying to pull.
You'll recognize a familiar name in the text. It's "God"--yes, the God,
the one who put Zeus, Odin, Hunah Ku (Mayan creator god), Consus (Roman
chthonic god protecting grain storage), and all the others out of
business, that's right, including Loviatar, the Finnish goddess of pain.
Now, we all know God, if only by reputation. He is--or, at least, He is
said to be--omniscient, omnipresent, omnipotent, all-loving, eternal,
and self-created. That's pretty impressive.
No wonder the CRA seeks to block Supreme Court jurisdiction over any
Federal, state, or local governmental official who cites, as the basis
of his or her actions, God, in His capacity as the sovereign source of
law. Who needs the Supreme Court, or, indeed, the entire U.S. legal
code, if you're acting on behalf of God?
But there's a problem with that scheme. It turns out that, no matter how
superb God is and no matter how fabulous His resume, it isn't clear that
He actually exists. How, then, can a reasonable civilization found any
of its official actions upon His authority?
But wait. I'm being disingenuous. The people who want to base the
writing, or the enforcing, or the subverting, of secular laws upon the
authority of God, couldn't care less about creating "a reasonable
civilization," and they have no doubt about--well, anything, starting
with His existence and going on to every god-damn thing you can think of.
These people go by many names (Taliban, Hasidim, Shia, evangelical
Christians, Fundamentalists, Pentecostals, Christian Reconstructionists,
etc.) but they all have one thing in common: they would, if they could,
institute laws--and, better, punishments--based on their deeply personal
faith, and in defiance of and in rebuke of your deeply personal faith.
Speaking of which, let me ask: How's your world-view? But never mind.
I'm sure it's very nice, and really interesting. Good for you, for
having it, and everything. But I'm afraid it's not quite perfect, since
the only world view that is perfect is mine.
In fact, I am continually struck by how absolutely fitting and complete
my world-view is. And, not to brag, but one of the best things about it
is, included in my world-view is the proviso I, per Marx (Groucho,
Chico, etc.), call a "Sanity Clause." It holds that a) I don't think I
was born inherently bad, and yet b) I may be wrong about various things.
This is what distinguishes my world view from those of the religious
fundamentalists who have written or sponsored the Constitution
Restoration Act. They--pious, upright Christians to a man--believe that
a) they were born inherently bad ("in sin"), but b) they are not wrong
about anything--or, rather, they cannot be wrong about anything
important.
The attraction of this attitude is obvious. Having first nominally paid
some token tribute to modesty and "humility" by "confessing" their
sinfulness, they are free to swagger around the physical and moral
universe without a care, or a doubt, in the world.
The most militant of these people are the Dominionists who, when not
congratulating themselves and each other for their righteousness, spend
their time seeking the complete and literal dominion of their brand of
fundamentalist Christianity over you and me and the entire United
Snakes. Sound good? No. It sounds like theocracy, because that's what it
is. And they can't wait.
For additional info, after looking up Dominionism in Wikipedia go here
for the definitive introduction--
http://www.yuricareport.com/Dominionism/TheDespoilingOfAmerica.htm
--and read, to your mounting dismay, how the worst that Christian
America has to offer (and who, by definition, think they're the best)
look forward to eroding, if possible with dynamite, the wall of
separation between church and state.
Of course, the desert tribe ignorance of fundamentalist Biblical
literalism is reason enough to mock, excoriate, and utterly reject this
movement's pretensions to political rule of a modern nation state. But
you don't have to be an atheist to recognize Dominionism for the
intellectual, social, and cultural disease that it is. There are many
sincere Christians (such as Katherine Yurica) who agree that the only
way to protect both church and state (everyone's respective church; all
of our common state) is to maintain the wall between them. That wall is
one of the primary structures upon which the success of the U.S.A. has
been built. The lack of it is what has helped make Islamic societies the
laff riots they are today.
Meanwhile, the CRA of 2005 had sixty sponsors, which is sixty too many.
Perhaps you've heard of one of them: Sen. Sam Brownback, possible
presidential candidate. Will it be reintroduced in 2007? We'll see.
But look, here comes everyone's favorite hypocritical opportunist, Newt
Gingrich, waving a new Contract With America with which (per the New
York Times) he hopes to "'recenter America on the creator from whom all
our liberties come' and to appoint judges who understand 'the centrality
of God in American history.'"
You have to hand it to these loathsome, insufferable people: they never
stop. You say to them, "No, see, you think you're acting out of love for
mankind, but what you're actually doing is campaigning for political
tyranny and spiritual corruption. The problem is your world-view.
There's no Sanity Claus."
Then they deny that, and go about their business, spreading darkness and
promoting ignorance and waiting for the Son of God to come down from
Heaven. When He gets here, He'll tell them how much better they are, and
always have been, than anyone else. Then they'll be able to turn to the
rest of us (before we're hustled off to the Lake of Fire) and say, "See?"
It's what they live for.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ellis-weiner/come-back-robur-celtic-_b_3672
9.html
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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22 Dec 2006 09:45:34 PM |
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On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 00:09:57 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
More on the Religious Right wingnuts. This guy is good.
Wait until they sneak in another law that makes is a federal crime to
blaspheme, or speak or write anything disrespectful of their
particular god or ... who can imagine? Probably under a name like
"Religious Freedom Act".
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"Christians have an obligation, a mandate, a commission, a holy
responsibility to reclaim the land for Jesus Christ - to have dominion
in the civil structures, just as in every other aspect of life and
godliness. But it is dominion that we are after. Not just a voice. It
is dominion we are after. Not just influence. It is dominion we are
after. Not just equal time. It is dominion we are after. World
conquest. That's what Christ has commissioned us to accomplish. We must
win the world with the power of the Gospel. And we must never settle
for anything less."
- Republican political theorist George Grant
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Come Back, Robur (Celtic God of Oak Trees), All is Forgiven |
23 Dec 2006 01:58:52 AM |
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In article <0g9po2d53v09e4htspde1n3a6f76hkcupe@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 00:09:57 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
More on the Religious Right wingnuts. This guy is good.
Wait until they sneak in another law that makes is a federal crime to
blaspheme, or speak or write anything disrespectful of their
particular god or ... who can imagine? Probably under a name like
"Religious Freedom Act".
They are seriously trying to take away our right to sue over church
state violations and now this. Theocracy is on the way.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Come Back, Robur (Celtic God of Oak Trees), All is Forgiven |
25 Dec 2006 09:43:28 PM |
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On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 23:58:52 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <0g9po2d53v09e4htspde1n3a6f76hkcupe@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 00:09:57 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
More on the Religious Right wingnuts. This guy is good.
Wait until they sneak in another law that makes is a federal crime to
blaspheme, or speak or write anything disrespectful of their
particular god or ... who can imagine? Probably under a name like
"Religious Freedom Act".
They are seriously trying to take away our right to sue over church
state violations and now this. Theocracy is on the way.
Oh, I'm sure there's lots of weaponry to show them they error of their
ways. And that's just their neighbors.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Come Back, Robur (Celtic God of Oak Trees), All is Forgiven |
26 Dec 2006 12:17:49 AM |
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In article <gh61p2h14mag6vcndm5831s43v07eo3mff@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 23:58:52 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <0g9po2d53v09e4htspde1n3a6f76hkcupe@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 00:09:57 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
More on the Religious Right wingnuts. This guy is good.
Wait until they sneak in another law that makes is a federal crime to
blaspheme, or speak or write anything disrespectful of their
particular god or ... who can imagine? Probably under a name like
"Religious Freedom Act".
They are seriously trying to take away our right to sue over church
state violations and now this. Theocracy is on the way.
Oh, I'm sure there's lots of weaponry to show them they error of their
ways. And that's just their neighbors.
True, but then they'll go into their act about being 'poor persecuted
christians'.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "stoney" |
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30 Dec 2006 06:21:37 PM |
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On Mon, 25 Dec 2006 22:17:49 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <gh61p2h14mag6vcndm5831s43v07eo3mff@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 23:58:52 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <0g9po2d53v09e4htspde1n3a6f76hkcupe@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 00:09:57 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
More on the Religious Right wingnuts. This guy is good.
Wait until they sneak in another law that makes is a federal crime to
blaspheme, or speak or write anything disrespectful of their
particular god or ... who can imagine? Probably under a name like
"Religious Freedom Act".
They are seriously trying to take away our right to sue over church
state violations and now this. Theocracy is on the way.
Oh, I'm sure there's lots of weaponry to show them they error of their
ways. And that's just their neighbors.
True, but then they'll go into their act about being 'poor persecuted
christians'.
Christian Sectual Violence®
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Come Back, Robur (Celtic God of Oak Trees), All is Forgiven |
31 Dec 2006 01:05:48 AM |
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In article <7j0ep2t4ks8l43d13oqu6647raeg77amjp@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Mon, 25 Dec 2006 22:17:49 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <gh61p2h14mag6vcndm5831s43v07eo3mff@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 23:58:52 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <0g9po2d53v09e4htspde1n3a6f76hkcupe@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 00:09:57 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
More on the Religious Right wingnuts. This guy is good.
Wait until they sneak in another law that makes is a federal crime to
blaspheme, or speak or write anything disrespectful of their
particular god or ... who can imagine? Probably under a name like
"Religious Freedom Act".
They are seriously trying to take away our right to sue over church
state violations and now this. Theocracy is on the way.
Oh, I'm sure there's lots of weaponry to show them they error of their
ways. And that's just their neighbors.
True, but then they'll go into their act about being 'poor persecuted
christians'.
Christian Sectual Violence®
O.! Sectual not Sexual. I thought you were talking about the RCC again.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Come Back, Robur (Celtic God of Oak Trees), All is Forgiven |
31 Dec 2006 07:07:29 PM |
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On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 23:05:48 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <7j0ep2t4ks8l43d13oqu6647raeg77amjp@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Mon, 25 Dec 2006 22:17:49 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <gh61p2h14mag6vcndm5831s43v07eo3mff@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 23:58:52 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <0g9po2d53v09e4htspde1n3a6f76hkcupe@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 00:09:57 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
More on the Religious Right wingnuts. This guy is good.
Wait until they sneak in another law that makes is a federal crime to
blaspheme, or speak or write anything disrespectful of their
particular god or ... who can imagine? Probably under a name like
"Religious Freedom Act".
They are seriously trying to take away our right to sue over church
state violations and now this. Theocracy is on the way.
Oh, I'm sure there's lots of weaponry to show them they error of their
ways. And that's just their neighbors.
True, but then they'll go into their act about being 'poor persecuted
christians'.
Christian Sectual Violence®
O.! Sectual not Sexual. I thought you were talking about the RCC again.
There you'd have to look in the paedo files.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Come Back, Robur (Celtic God of Oak Trees), All is Forgiven |
31 Dec 2006 11:32:41 PM |
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In article <flngp2tbp3e34miufsqdnbgsca109gd0t8@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 23:05:48 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <7j0ep2t4ks8l43d13oqu6647raeg77amjp@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Mon, 25 Dec 2006 22:17:49 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <gh61p2h14mag6vcndm5831s43v07eo3mff@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 23:58:52 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <0g9po2d53v09e4htspde1n3a6f76hkcupe@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 00:09:57 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
More on the Religious Right wingnuts. This guy is good.
Wait until they sneak in another law that makes is a federal crime to
blaspheme, or speak or write anything disrespectful of their
particular god or ... who can imagine? Probably under a name like
"Religious Freedom Act".
They are seriously trying to take away our right to sue over church
state violations and now this. Theocracy is on the way.
Oh, I'm sure there's lots of weaponry to show them they error of their
ways. And that's just their neighbors.
True, but then they'll go into their act about being 'poor persecuted
christians'.
Christian Sectual Violence®
O.! Sectual not Sexual. I thought you were talking about the RCC again.
There you'd have to look in the paedo files.
As compiled by Moe Lester.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Come Back, Robur (Celtic God of Oak Trees), All is Forgiven |
02 Jan 2007 08:43:06 PM |
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On Sun, 31 Dec 2006 21:32:41 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <flngp2tbp3e34miufsqdnbgsca109gd0t8@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 23:05:48 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <7j0ep2t4ks8l43d13oqu6647raeg77amjp@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Mon, 25 Dec 2006 22:17:49 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <gh61p2h14mag6vcndm5831s43v07eo3mff@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 23:58:52 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <0g9po2d53v09e4htspde1n3a6f76hkcupe@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 00:09:57 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
More on the Religious Right wingnuts. This guy is good.
Wait until they sneak in another law that makes is a federal crime to
blaspheme, or speak or write anything disrespectful of their
particular god or ... who can imagine? Probably under a name like
"Religious Freedom Act".
They are seriously trying to take away our right to sue over church
state violations and now this. Theocracy is on the way.
Oh, I'm sure there's lots of weaponry to show them they error of their
ways. And that's just their neighbors.
True, but then they'll go into their act about being 'poor persecuted
christians'.
Christian Sectual Violence®
O.! Sectual not Sexual. I thought you were talking about the RCC again.
There you'd have to look in the paedo files.
As compiled by Moe Lester.
And his brother Chester.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
.
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| Title: Re: Come Back, Robur (Celtic God of Oak Trees), All is Forgiven |
03 Jan 2007 01:50:34 AM |
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In article <e16mp2pia0b5u78p1pqda3tmiiro433pr6@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 31 Dec 2006 21:32:41 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <flngp2tbp3e34miufsqdnbgsca109gd0t8@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 23:05:48 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <7j0ep2t4ks8l43d13oqu6647raeg77amjp@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Mon, 25 Dec 2006 22:17:49 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <gh61p2h14mag6vcndm5831s43v07eo3mff@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 23:58:52 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <0g9po2d53v09e4htspde1n3a6f76hkcupe@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 00:09:57 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
More on the Religious Right wingnuts. This guy is good.
Wait until they sneak in another law that makes is a federal
crime to
blaspheme, or speak or write anything disrespectful of their
particular god or ... who can imagine? Probably under a name
like
"Religious Freedom Act".
They are seriously trying to take away our right to sue over church
state violations and now this. Theocracy is on the way.
Oh, I'm sure there's lots of weaponry to show them they error of
their
ways. And that's just their neighbors.
True, but then they'll go into their act about being 'poor persecuted
christians'.
Christian Sectual Violence®
O.! Sectual not Sexual. I thought you were talking about the RCC again.
There you'd have to look in the paedo files.
As compiled by Moe Lester.
And his brother Chester.
Gee, mistuh Dillon, whayd they do thet?
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| Title: Re: Come Back, Robur (Celtic God of Oak Trees), All is Forgiven |
06 Jan 2007 04:50:10 PM |
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On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 23:50:34 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <e16mp2pia0b5u78p1pqda3tmiiro433pr6@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 31 Dec 2006 21:32:41 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <flngp2tbp3e34miufsqdnbgsca109gd0t8@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 23:05:48 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <7j0ep2t4ks8l43d13oqu6647raeg77amjp@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Mon, 25 Dec 2006 22:17:49 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <gh61p2h14mag6vcndm5831s43v07eo3mff@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 23:58:52 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <0g9po2d53v09e4htspde1n3a6f76hkcupe@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 00:09:57 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
More on the Religious Right wingnuts. This guy is good.
Wait until they sneak in another law that makes is a federal
crime to
blaspheme, or speak or write anything disrespectful of their
particular god or ... who can imagine? Probably under a name
like
"Religious Freedom Act".
They are seriously trying to take away our right to sue over church
state violations and now this. Theocracy is on the way.
Oh, I'm sure there's lots of weaponry to show them they error of
their
ways. And that's just their neighbors.
True, but then they'll go into their act about being 'poor persecuted
christians'.
Christian Sectual Violence®
O.! Sectual not Sexual. I thought you were talking about the RCC again.
There you'd have to look in the paedo files.
As compiled by Moe Lester.
And his brother Chester.
Gee, mistuh Dillon, whayd they do thet?
They were always in the bushes....
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Come Back, Robur (Celtic God of Oak Trees), All is Forgiven |
07 Jan 2007 12:35:27 AM |
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In article <7s90q2931p69n78m0s30a1gr0dae7rf1fm@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 23:50:34 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <e16mp2pia0b5u78p1pqda3tmiiro433pr6@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 31 Dec 2006 21:32:41 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <flngp2tbp3e34miufsqdnbgsca109gd0t8@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 23:05:48 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <7j0ep2t4ks8l43d13oqu6647raeg77amjp@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Mon, 25 Dec 2006 22:17:49 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <gh61p2h14mag6vcndm5831s43v07eo3mff@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 23:58:52 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <0g9po2d53v09e4htspde1n3a6f76hkcupe@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 00:09:57 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
More on the Religious Right wingnuts. This guy is good.
Wait until they sneak in another law that makes is a federal
crime to
blaspheme, or speak or write anything disrespectful of their
particular god or ... who can imagine? Probably under a name
like
"Religious Freedom Act".
They are seriously trying to take away our right to sue over
church
state violations and now this. Theocracy is on the way.
Oh, I'm sure there's lots of weaponry to show them they error of
their
ways. And that's just their neighbors.
True, but then they'll go into their act about being 'poor
persecuted
christians'.
Christian Sectual Violence®
O.! Sectual not Sexual. I thought you were talking about the RCC
again.
There you'd have to look in the paedo files.
As compiled by Moe Lester.
And his brother Chester.
Gee, mistuh Dillon, whayd they do thet?
They were always in the bushes....
Ugh! What a horrid thought!
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
.
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Come Back, Robur (Celtic God of Oak Trees), All is Forgiven |
11 Jan 2007 05:00:07 PM |
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On Sat, 06 Jan 2007 22:35:27 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <7s90q2931p69n78m0s30a1gr0dae7rf1fm@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 23:50:34 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <e16mp2pia0b5u78p1pqda3tmiiro433pr6@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 31 Dec 2006 21:32:41 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <flngp2tbp3e34miufsqdnbgsca109gd0t8@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 23:05:48 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <7j0ep2t4ks8l43d13oqu6647raeg77amjp@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Mon, 25 Dec 2006 22:17:49 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <gh61p2h14mag6vcndm5831s43v07eo3mff@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 23:58:52 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <0g9po2d53v09e4htspde1n3a6f76hkcupe@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 00:09:57 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
More on the Religious Right wingnuts. This guy is good.
Wait until they sneak in another law that makes is a federal
crime to
blaspheme, or speak or write anything disrespectful of their
particular god or ... who can imagine? Probably under a name
like
"Religious Freedom Act".
They are seriously trying to take away our right to sue over
church
state violations and now this. Theocracy is on the way.
Oh, I'm sure there's lots of weaponry to show them they error of
their
ways. And that's just their neighbors.
True, but then they'll go into their act about being 'poor
persecuted
christians'.
Christian Sectual Violence®
O.! Sectual not Sexual. I thought you were talking about the RCC
again.
There you'd have to look in the paedo files.
As compiled by Moe Lester.
And his brother Chester.
Gee, mistuh Dillon, whayd they do thet?
They were always in the bushes....
Ugh! What a horrid thought!
Good thing I simply wrote it.......
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Come Back, Robur (Celtic God of Oak Trees), All is Forgiven |
12 Jan 2007 12:42:26 AM |
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In article <7bgdq29i4b0e4h4da9ijlfb9d90epb3tun@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 06 Jan 2007 22:35:27 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <7s90q2931p69n78m0s30a1gr0dae7rf1fm@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 23:50:34 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <e16mp2pia0b5u78p1pqda3tmiiro433pr6@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 31 Dec 2006 21:32:41 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <flngp2tbp3e34miufsqdnbgsca109gd0t8@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 23:05:48 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <7j0ep2t4ks8l43d13oqu6647raeg77amjp@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Mon, 25 Dec 2006 22:17:49 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <gh61p2h14mag6vcndm5831s43v07eo3mff@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 23:58:52 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <0g9po2d53v09e4htspde1n3a6f76hkcupe@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 00:09:57 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
More on the Religious Right wingnuts. This guy is good.
Wait until they sneak in another law that makes is a
federal
crime to
blaspheme, or speak or write anything disrespectful of
their
particular god or ... who can imagine? Probably under a
name
like
"Religious Freedom Act".
They are seriously trying to take away our right to sue over
church
state violations and now this. Theocracy is on the way.
Oh, I'm sure there's lots of weaponry to show them they error
of
their
ways. And that's just their neighbors.
True, but then they'll go into their act about being 'poor
persecuted
christians'.
Christian Sectual Violence®
O.! Sectual not Sexual. I thought you were talking about the RCC
again.
There you'd have to look in the paedo files.
As compiled by Moe Lester.
And his brother Chester.
Gee, mistuh Dillon, whayd they do thet?
They were always in the bushes....
Ugh! What a horrid thought!
Good thing I simply wrote it.......
I don't think I'd want to see an example of it.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
.
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Come Back, Robur (Celtic God of Oak Trees), All is Forgiven |
12 Jan 2007 03:20:22 PM |
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On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 22:42:26 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <7bgdq29i4b0e4h4da9ijlfb9d90epb3tun@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 06 Jan 2007 22:35:27 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
[]
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 00:09:57 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
More on the Religious Right wingnuts. This guy is good.
Wait until they sneak in another law that makes is a
federal
crime to
blaspheme, or speak or write anything disrespectful of
their
particular god or ... who can imagine? Probably under a
name
like
"Religious Freedom Act".
They are seriously trying to take away our right to sue over
church
state violations and now this. Theocracy is on the way.
Oh, I'm sure there's lots of weaponry to show them they error
of
their
ways. And that's just their neighbors.
True, but then they'll go into their act about being 'poor
persecuted
christians'.
Christian Sectual Violence®
O.! Sectual not Sexual. I thought you were talking about the RCC
again.
There you'd have to look in the paedo files.
As compiled by Moe Lester.
And his brother Chester.
Gee, mistuh Dillon, whayd they do thet?
They were always in the bushes....
Ugh! What a horrid thought!
Good thing I simply wrote it.......
I don't think I'd want to see an example of it.
Send it to bush then.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Come Back, Robur (Celtic God of Oak Trees), All is Forgiven |
13 Jan 2007 12:06:09 AM |
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In article <trufq2thqc54av1ouk63d3fer57nnrckic@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 22:42:26 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <7bgdq29i4b0e4h4da9ijlfb9d90epb3tun@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 06 Jan 2007 22:35:27 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
[]
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 00:09:57 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
More on the Religious Right wingnuts. This guy is good.
Wait until they sneak in another law that makes is a
federal
crime to
blaspheme, or speak or write anything disrespectful of
their
particular god or ... who can imagine? Probably under a
name
like
"Religious Freedom Act".
They are seriously trying to take away our right to sue
over
church
state violations and now this. Theocracy is on the way.
Oh, I'm sure there's lots of weaponry to show them they
error
of
their
ways. And that's just their neighbors.
True, but then they'll go into their act about being 'poor
persecuted
christians'.
Christian Sectual Violence®
O.! Sectual not Sexual. I thought you were talking about the RCC
again.
There you'd have to look in the paedo files.
As compiled by Moe Lester.
And his brother Chester.
Gee, mistuh Dillon, whayd they do thet?
They were always in the bushes....
Ugh! What a horrid thought!
Good thing I simply wrote it.......
I don't think I'd want to see an example of it.
Send it to bush then.
He'd say: "Duh, invade Iran and Syria. Stay the course."
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
.
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Come Back, Robur (Celtic God of Oak Trees), All is Forgiven |
15 Jan 2007 07:03:12 PM |
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On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 22:06:09 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <trufq2thqc54av1ouk63d3fer57nnrckic@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 22:42:26 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <7bgdq29i4b0e4h4da9ijlfb9d90epb3tun@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 06 Jan 2007 22:35:27 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
[]
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 00:09:57 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
More on the Religious Right wingnuts. This guy is good.
Wait until they sneak in another law that makes is a
federal
crime to
blaspheme, or speak or write anything disrespectful of
their
particular god or ... who can imagine? Probably under a
name
like
"Religious Freedom Act".
They are seriously trying to take away our right to sue
over
church
state violations and now this. Theocracy is on the way.
Oh, I'm sure there's lots of weaponry to show them they
error
of
their
ways. And that's just their neighbors.
True, but then they'll go into their act about being 'poor
persecuted
christians'.
Christian Sectual Violence®
O.! Sectual not Sexual. I thought you were talking about the RCC
again.
There you'd have to look in the paedo files.
As compiled by Moe Lester.
And his brother Chester.
Gee, mistuh Dillon, whayd they do thet?
They were always in the bushes....
Ugh! What a horrid thought!
Good thing I simply wrote it.......
I don't think I'd want to see an example of it.
Send it to bush then.
He'd say: "Duh, invade Iran and Syria. Stay the course."
Only if he takes point.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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