Religions > Atheism > Congress Has Power to Bar Homosexuals from Military, Says Observer -- Not the Courts
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05 Dec 2006 02:01:06 AM |
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Congress Has Power to Bar Homosexuals from Military, Says Observer -- Not the Courts |
Congress Has Power to Bar Homosexuals from Military, Says Observer --
Not the Courts
(AP) - A Michigan-based military watchdog says she's not surprised that
openly homosexual Congressman Barney Frank intends to once again try to
push through legislation aimed at repealing the ban on homosexual men
and women serving in the military. But she also doesn't think the new
liberal-led Congress will go along with it.
Elaine Donnelly, president of the Center for Military Readiness (CMR)
in the Detroit suburb of Livonia, says she was recently watching a
television news program featuring the Massachusetts lawmaker. The
self-identified homosexual, she says, offered up comments about
legislation to repeal the law that was passed in 1993 barring
homosexuals from military service.
"I don't think even the Democratic establishment would try to do that,"
she offers. "There's been some legislation in the hopper for a number
of years; it has some sponsors. It's not going anywhere."
Donnelly is convinced the Democrats realize there would be considerable
political consequence if the ban were lifted during their watch. "I
don't think that this Congress, as shifted to the left as it is now,
would attempt to do that," she states. "If they did, the American
public would be appalled ...."
Other avenues, however, might be considered, she says. "That's why you
have a group of people here, trying again to go into the federal courts
to get the courts to do what they could not do legislatively," says
Donnelly. "And that is, to impose the homosexual agenda on the armed
forces of the United States."
The CMR leader is referring to a case called Cook v. Rumsfeld, which
was thrown out by a federal judge in April but has been appealed by the
homosexual plaintiffs -- a legal action that has been joined by 14
retired military leaders who have filed briefs on the plaintiffs'
behalf. Donnelly says the political leanings of those joining in the
appeal are obvious.
"These are people from the liberal left," she explains. "The fact that
some of them have military background really is of no consequence
because the court rightly ruled that Congress certainly had the right
and that it is constitutional to have policies that exclude homosexuals
from the military."
Donnelly points out that the courts have historically deferred
judgments like this to Congress. "And I think it's unlikely that an
appeals court would overturn what a Massachusetts federal court has
already done - and that is, to uphold the statute that was passed in
1993 with overwhelming bi-partisan majorities," she says.
Despite the claims of these 14 retired military leaders, Donnelly
states, homosexuality is clearly not compatible with military service
-- and the ban should remain in place, she adds.
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| User: "655321" |
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| Title: Re: Congress Has Power to Bar Homosexuals from Military, Says Observer -- Not the Courts |
05 Dec 2006 02:27:56 AM |
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In article <1165305666.211001.207110@79g2000cws.googlegroups.com>,
"bobandcarole" <bobandcarole222@hotmail.com> wrote:
Congress Has Power to Bar Homosexuals from Military, Says Observer
"Says Observer"? *Observer*? Turns out she was watching a report on
TeeVee and got her panties in a wad.
Ooooh, I'm impressed. Someone watched the tube and got upset. Call the
AP. Call UPI. Get O'Really on the case. This is big news.
--
655321
"Heed the message served with every Republican banquet speech -- that the
private interest precedes the public interest, that money is good for rich
people, bad for poor people -- and who can say that the war in Iraq has proven
to be anything other than the transformation of a godforsaken desert into a
defense contractor's Garden of Eden?" -- Lewis Lapham
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| User: "bobandcarole" |
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| Title: Re: Congress Has Power to Bar Homosexuals from Military, Says Observer -- Not the Courts |
05 Dec 2006 02:57:23 AM |
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655321 wrote:
In article <1165305666.211001.207110@79g2000cws.googlegroups.com>,
"bobandcarole" <bobandcarole222@hotmail.com> wrote:
Congress Has Power to Bar Homosexuals from Military, Says Observer
"Says Observer"? *Observer*? Turns out she was watching a report on
TeeVee and got her panties in a wad.
Ooooh, I'm impressed. Someone watched the tube and got upset. Call the
AP. Call UPI. Get O'Really on the case. This is big news.
Unlike you, she makes sense.
--
655321
"Heed the message served with every Republican banquet speech -- that the
private interest precedes the public interest, that money is good for rich
people, bad for poor people -- and who can say that the war in Iraq has proven
to be anything other than the transformation of a godforsaken desert into a
defense contractor's Garden of Eden?" -- Lewis Lapham
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| User: "IAAH" |
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| Title: Re: Congress Has Power to Bar Homosexuals from Military, Says Observer -- Not the Courts |
05 Dec 2006 08:18:32 AM |
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On 5 Dec 2006 00:57:23 -0800, "bobandcarole"
<bobandcarole333@hotmail.com> wrote:
655321 wrote:
In article <1165305666.211001.207110@79g2000cws.googlegroups.com>,
"bobandcarole" <bobandcarole222@hotmail.com> wrote:
Congress Has Power to Bar Homosexuals from Military, Says Observer
"Says Observer"? *Observer*? Turns out she was watching a report on
TeeVee and got her panties in a wad.
Ooooh, I'm impressed. Someone watched the tube and got upset. Call the
AP. Call UPI. Get O'Really on the case. This is big news.
Unlike you, she makes sense.
You'll be unable to show how, of course. You won't have a coherent
reason for this, just as you have no coherent reason for all the other
bigotry you show against homosexuals.
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| User: "bobandcarole" |
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| Title: Re: Congress Has Power to Bar Homosexuals from Military, Says Observer -- Not the Courts |
05 Dec 2006 03:45:07 AM |
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bobandcarole wrote:
655321 wrote:
In article <1165305666.211001.207110@79g2000cws.googlegroups.com>,
"bobandcarole" <bobandcarole222@hotmail.com> wrote:
Congress Has Power to Bar Homosexuals from Military, Says Observer
"Says Observer"? *Observer*? Turns out she was watching a report on
TeeVee and got her panties in a wad.
Ooooh, I'm impressed. Someone watched the tube and got upset. Call the
AP. Call UPI. Get O'Really on the case. This is big news.
Unlike you, she makes sense.
--
655321
"Heed the message served with every Republican banquet speech -- that the
private interest precedes the public interest, that money is good for rich
people, bad for poor people -- and who can say that the war in Iraq has proven
to be anything other than the transformation of a godforsaken desert into a
defense contractor's Garden of Eden?" -- Lewis Lapham
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| User: "Parsifal" |
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| Title: Re: More rant from closet gay Boob... |
05 Dec 2006 03:40:56 AM |
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bobandcarole a =E9crit :
Congress Has Power to Bar Homosexuals from Military, Says Observer --
Not the Courts
Still having your daily obsessions with homosexuality, boob?
Get out of the closet. Now.
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| User: "Draccus" |
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| Title: Re: Congress Has Power to Bar Homosexuals from Military, Says Observer -- Not the Courts |
07 Dec 2006 03:53:32 AM |
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bobandcarole wrote:
Congress Has Power to Bar Homosexuals from Military, Says Observer --
Not the Courts
(AP) - A Michigan-based military watchdog says she's not surprised that
openly homosexual Congressman Barney Frank intends to once again try to
push through legislation aimed at repealing the ban on homosexual men
and women serving in the military. But she also doesn't think the new
liberal-led Congress will go along with it.
Elaine Donnelly, president of the Center for Military Readiness (CMR)
in the Detroit suburb of Livonia, says she was recently watching a
television news program featuring the Massachusetts lawmaker. The
self-identified homosexual, she says, offered up comments about
legislation to repeal the law that was passed in 1993 barring
homosexuals from military service.
"I don't think even the Democratic establishment would try to do that,"
she offers. "There's been some legislation in the hopper for a number
of years; it has some sponsors. It's not going anywhere."
Donnelly is convinced the Democrats realize there would be considerable
political consequence if the ban were lifted during their watch. "I
don't think that this Congress, as shifted to the left as it is now,
would attempt to do that," she states. "If they did, the American
public would be appalled ...."
Other avenues, however, might be considered, she says. "That's why you
have a group of people here, trying again to go into the federal courts
to get the courts to do what they could not do legislatively," says
Donnelly. "And that is, to impose the homosexual agenda on the armed
forces of the United States."
The CMR leader is referring to a case called Cook v. Rumsfeld, which
was thrown out by a federal judge in April but has been appealed by the
homosexual plaintiffs -- a legal action that has been joined by 14
retired military leaders who have filed briefs on the plaintiffs'
behalf. Donnelly says the political leanings of those joining in the
appeal are obvious.
"These are people from the liberal left," she explains. "The fact that
some of them have military background really is of no consequence
because the court rightly ruled that Congress certainly had the right
and that it is constitutional to have policies that exclude homosexuals
from the military."
Donnelly points out that the courts have historically deferred
judgments like this to Congress. "And I think it's unlikely that an
appeals court would overturn what a Massachusetts federal court has
already done - and that is, to uphold the statute that was passed in
1993 with overwhelming bi-partisan majorities," she says.
Despite the claims of these 14 retired military leaders, Donnelly
states, homosexuality is clearly not compatible with military service
-- and the ban should remain in place, she adds.
Bob,
Why is it that everytime one you little biggots come out you make the
same statements you made 60 and 70 years ago about blacks? They will
tear down military discipline. They will disrupt moral. They can not be
trusted. These are all the same lame excuses, and they were crap then
and they are crap now. Gays have always served in the military and done
so honorably, I knew a few back when I served in the Marines and they
did their jobs and fought hard and at the end of the day who they went
home to was none of mine or your business. Get a new line and an
education before you embarrass yourself anymore.
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| User: "Pr0r3p" |
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| Title: Re: Congress Has Power to Bar Homosexuals from Military, Says Observer -- Not the Courts |
05 Dec 2006 08:06:48 AM |
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bobandcarole wrote:
Congress Has Power to Bar Homosexuals from Military, Says Observer --
Not the Courts
More of bobonparole's blatant obsession with homosexuality. Anyone
care to guess why he's obsessed with homosexuality?
<snip>
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| User: "ScottyFLL" |
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| Title: Re: Congress Has Power to Bar Homosexuals from Military, Says Observer -- Not the Courts |
05 Dec 2006 10:09:33 AM |
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Pr0r3p wrote:
bobandcarole wrote:
Congress Has Power to Bar Homosexuals from Military, Says Observer --
Not the Courts
More of bobonparole's blatant obsession with homosexuality. Anyone
care to guess why he's obsessed with homosexuality?
http://content.apa.org/journals/abn/105/3/440
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| Title: Re: Congress Has Power to Bar Homosexuals from Military, Says Observer -- Not the Courts |
05 Dec 2006 08:10:29 AM |
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Pr0r3p wrote:
bobandcarole wrote:
Congress Has Power to Bar Homosexuals from Military, Says Observer --
Not the Courts
More of bobonparole's blatant obsession with homosexuality. Anyone
care to guess why he's obsessed with homosexuality?
Actually I would love to see it eradicated.........
<snip>
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| User: "Parsifal" |
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| Title: Re: Congress Has Power to Bar Homosexuals from Military, Says Observer -- Not the Courts |
05 Dec 2006 08:14:42 AM |
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bobandcarole a =E9crit :
Pr0r3p wrote:
bobandcarole wrote:
Congress Has Power to Bar Homosexuals from Military, Says Observer --
Not the Courts
More of bobonparole's blatant obsession with homosexuality. Anyone
care to guess why he's obsessed with homosexuality?
Actually I would love to see it eradicated.........
Another typical case of self loathing gay...
Get out of the closet. Now.
=20
<snip>
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| User: "bobandcarole" |
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| Title: Re: Congress Has Power to Bar Homosexuals from Military, Says Observer -- Not the Courts |
05 Dec 2006 08:18:40 AM |
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Parsifal wrote:
bobandcarole a =E9crit :
Pr0r3p wrote:
bobandcarole wrote:
Congress Has Power to Bar Homosexuals from Military, Says Observer =
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Not the Courts
More of bobonparole's blatant obsession with homosexuality. Anyone
care to guess why he's obsessed with homosexuality?
Actually I would love to see it eradicated.........
Another typical case of self loathing gay...
Get out of the closet. Now.
"Hi my name is Parsifal and I am so bone fucking stupid that I repeat
myself over and over like the tard that I am" --Parsiful
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| User: "655321" |
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| Title: Re: Congress Has Power to Bar Homosexuals from Military, Says Observer -- Not the Courts |
05 Dec 2006 09:36:43 PM |
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In article <1165328320.069485.19060@j72g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"bobandcarole" <bobandcarole007@hotmail.com> wrote:
I am so bone fucking stupid that I repeat
myself over and over like the tard that I am
True.
--
655321
"Heed the message served with every Republican banquet speech -- that the
private interest precedes the public interest, that money is good for rich
people, bad for poor people -- and who can say that the war in Iraq has proven
to be anything other than the transformation of a godforsaken desert into a
defense contractor's Garden of Eden?" -- Lewis Lapham
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| User: "Parsifal" |
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| Title: Re: Congress Has Power to Bar Homosexuals from Military, Says Observer -- Not the Courts |
05 Dec 2006 08:31:12 AM |
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bobandcarole a =E9crit :
Parsifal wrote:
bobandcarole a =E9crit :
Pr0r3p wrote:
bobandcarole wrote:
Congress Has Power to Bar Homosexuals from Military, Says Observe=
r --
Not the Courts
More of bobonparole's blatant obsession with homosexuality. Anyone
care to guess why he's obsessed with homosexuality?
Actually I would love to see it eradicated.........
Another typical case of self loathing gay...
Get out of the closet. Now.
"Hi my name is Parsifal and I am so bone fucking stupid that I repeat
myself over and over like the tard that I am" --Parsiful
I'll make a deal with you, *****: stop obsessing with homosexuality
and I'll stop calling you by your real name: closet-gay. Until then,
every time you'll send your homosexual fantasies, I'll write whatever I
want...
Have you checked how many postings you send DAILY about homosexuality?
Guess that makes you fucking stupid... on top of proving that you're a
classic case of self-loathing closet-gay...
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| User: "ScottyFLL" |
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| Title: Re: Congress Has Power to Bar Homosexuals from Military, Says Observer -- Not the Courts |
05 Dec 2006 10:10:20 AM |
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Parsifal wrote:
Have you checked how many postings you send DAILY about homosexuality?
Guess that makes you fucking stupid... on top of proving that you're a
classic case of self-loathing closet-gay...
http://content.apa.org/journals/abn/105/3/440
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| User: "Pr0r3p" |
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| Title: Re: Congress Has Power to Bar Homosexuals from Military, Says Observer -- Not the Courts |
05 Dec 2006 08:20:56 AM |
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bobandcarole wrote:
Parsifal wrote:
bobandcarole a =E9crit :
Pr0r3p wrote:
bobandcarole wrote:
Congress Has Power to Bar Homosexuals from Military, Says Observe=
r --
Not the Courts
More of bobonparole's blatant obsession with homosexuality. Anyone
care to guess why he's obsessed with homosexuality?
Actually I would love to see it eradicated.........
Another typical case of self loathing gay...
Get out of the closet. Now.
"Hi my name is Parsifal and I am so bone fucking stupid that I repeat
myself over and over like the tard that I am" --Parsiful
LOL!!! This from the guy who whines daily about homosexuality. I guess
that makes bobonparole a retard too.
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| User: "Pr0r3p" |
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| Title: Re: Congress Has Power to Bar Homosexuals from Military, Says Observer -- Not the Courts |
05 Dec 2006 08:18:09 AM |
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bobandcarole wrote:
Pr0r3p wrote:
bobandcarole wrote:
Congress Has Power to Bar Homosexuals from Military, Says Observer --
Not the Courts
More of bobonparole's blatant obsession with homosexuality. Anyone
care to guess why he's obsessed with homosexuality?
Actually I would love to see it eradicated.........
Looking to cure yourself, I see.
<snip>
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