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"Fredric L. Rice" |
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16 Apr 2005 12:41:55 AM |
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Congress to consider birth control bill |
Have all the pharmacists in this country gone Catholic?
CNN / April 15, 2005
Congress to consider birth control bill
Proposal would ensure pharmacies fill prescriptions
From Lindy Royce
WASHINGTON -- Reports of pharmacists with particular religious and
moral beliefs denying prescriptions for birth control have prompted
legislation that would ensure all prescriptions are filled.
House and Senate backers unveiled a bill dubbed the Access to Legal
Pharmaceuticals Act (ALPhA) on Thursday.
It would allow a pharmacist to refuse to fill a prescription only if
the prescription can be passed to and filled by a co-worker at the same
pharmacy.
According to NARAL Pro-Choice America, a reproductive rights group,
legislators in 10 states are considering bills that would permit
pharmacists to refuse to fill birth control prescriptions. A federal
law, if passed, would pre-empt any state law.
"What have we come to in this country?" Rep. Carolyn Maloney, a New
York Democrat and House sponsor of the bill, said Thursday morning at a
rally on Capitol Hill. "We are merely saying, 'let the laws in this
country stand.' Let a woman be treated with dignity. When she has a
prescription from her doctor, that privacy should be respected."
Yet some want additional legislation to protect pharmacists who believe
certain birth control drugs are forms of abortion, Karen Brauer,
president of Pharmacists for Life, told the Reuters news agency. The
group provides legal advice and support to pharmacists.
Brauer told Reuters she believes doctors will eventually begin ordering
women to abort disabled children, or refuse to treat them after birth.
"They'll force women to kill their children ... It will be like China.
It's the next logical step," she told Reuters.
The American Pharmacists Association favors letting pharmacists follow
their conscience, but says customers should have alternative means of
getting prescriptions, spokeswoman Susan Winckler told Reuters.
"Nobody has a right to come between any person and their doctor," Sen.
Frank Lautenberg, a New Jersey Democrat and co-sponsor, said Thursday.
"Today they might not fill prescriptions for birth control pills.
Tomorrow it could be painkillers for a cancer patient. Next year it
could be medicine that prolongs the life of a person with AIDS or some
other terminal disease."
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| User: "LisaKay" |
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| Title: Re: Congress to consider birth control bill |
16 Apr 2005 10:49:04 AM |
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Fredric L. Rice wrote:
Have all the pharmacists in this country gone Catholic?
CNN / April 15, 2005
Congress to consider birth control bill
Proposal would ensure pharmacies fill prescriptions
From Lindy Royce
<snip>
Yet some want additional legislation to protect pharmacists who
believe
certain birth control drugs are forms of abortion, Karen Brauer,
president of Pharmacists for Life, told the Reuters news agency. The
group provides legal advice and support to pharmacists.
Brauer told Reuters she believes doctors will eventually begin
ordering
women to abort disabled children, or refuse to treat them after
birth.
"They'll force women to kill their children ... It will be like
China.
It's the next logical step," she told Reuters.
That is the stupidest thing I've ever heard! How the hell is that the
"next logical step"?! I don't like the idea of abortion, but this is
absolutely ridiculous! Since when do doctors have the right to refuse
to treat anyone or order patients to do anything?! Is this group
trying to stop the sale of condoms?!
Here's their website. It's not a great one, but it does give you a
feel for how hateful these people are!
http://www.pfli.org/
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| User: "quibbler" |
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| Title: Re: Congress to consider birth control bill |
16 Apr 2005 08:52:18 AM |
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In article <1161a5mdl0snh11@corp.supernews.com>,
says...
Brauer told Reuters she believes doctors will eventually begin ordering
women to abort disabled children, or refuse to treat them after birth.
Don't you love the shrill, mindless hysteria of reich-wingers. Doctors
don't "order" private citizens to do anything. They recommend treatment
to patients. As to the suggestion that they would stop treating
disabled children after birth, she clearly has never heard of something
called the "profit motive". Why would a doctor pass up the opportunity
to earn a buck? Sure, treating the kid may be futile, but it still pays
for the doctor's brand new car. It really is incredible how thoroughly
divorced from reality these rightards have become.
"They'll force women to kill their children
They're not children in any more significant sense than a sperm or a
skin cell is a "child". Doctors can't force patients to do anything,
unless the patient is an inmate in a mental ward, which is where it
sounds like Brauer probably belongs.
... It will be like China.
It's the next logical step," she told Reuters.
Only if you consider non sequiturs to be "logical". She's literally
claiming that if a pharmacist is forced to do his or her job and
dispense a particular prescription that this will grant doctors the
power to impose involuntary and compulsory abortion orders upon women
who don't want it. Gee, what if the woman doesn't take the prescription?
What if she can't even afford it because of the shitty state of health
care in this country? What if she had implantable contraceptives in the
first place that prevented her from becoming pregnant?
The American Pharmacists Association favors letting pharmacists follow
their conscience,
Pharmacists may "follow their conscience" by resigning their license if
they refuse to do their jobs. It's the same option we all have. This
selective refusal to do their jobs is tantamount to a doctor or
emergency responder refusing to treat black people because he holds
"white supremacy" views or a cop refusing to enforce the law because he
doesn't like the person involved. These people hold positions of trust
governed by state regulatory agencies. They are not entitled to pick
and choose which people they deem worthy of having their rights
respected.
--
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
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