The LORD guides those who walk with HIM exactly how to use that which HE
teaches them. Because Carol's walk with the LORD is infinitely closer
than your walk, her use of HIS teachings is not mockery of HIM at all.
The same can not be written concerning your comments about the Gospels.

Truth is simple.

It seems to me I heard somewhere that

Dear Don,

BTW, you really do need to work on your comprehension skills. Nowhere
did I say Carol's message is "mockery of HIM" (though it is) but that
it is "a mockery of the original teachings", an example of
fundamentalist oversimplification and reliance on tendentious teachers.

Please learn to separate quotes from your own text so people can follow
the discussion. I wrote the above, you wrote the following.

As a child I was given The Good News Bible. You might know it, it is
the one with the little pictures of Jesus without form. It never quite
got the full picture across to me, but perhaps this is because the
adult world uses words children don't. So, although the Good News Bible
was simple enough, the Latin and Old English spoken in church didn't
seem to relate to the book I was given by the local chapel Sunday
School. To me my book was about my Lord Jesus and what was spoken in
the church was about the church and its rituals. Of course, as I got a
little older the two came together and spoke the same language of
Jesus' love. Now I prefer the versions I could never understand as a
child.

"When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I
thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish
things." KJ 1Cr 13:11

My point was pretty much that you and other fundamentalists pretty much
speak as children, not having the mental discipline to deal with the
many cultural and linguistic issues of Bible interpretation.

If 'Christian doctrine' is not teaching you about Christ's love and
what He did for you on His cross, then maybe it's what you have been
hearing before you need to be questioning. Did you pray for God's Holy
Spirit to reveal Christ's love for you? Because Jesus is about love,
and ultimately He has been bringing you His message. This is all He did
2,000 years ago, and for that He was put to death after suffering
agonies. He went to His death, He suffered, His hands were nailed, His
side pierced all for bringing a Godly message to feed our heart, mind
and souls.

Real Christian doctrine *does* teach much; fundamentalism is a truncated
form of Christianity, religious pap for those afraid of real world
issues.

People are no different today, they think that they are; that they are
more loving, more compassionate, charitable, patient and all the things
that Salvation through sacrifice brings, but they are no different to
those people who jeered at Jesus as they beat Him, nailed Him down and
lifted Him up on The cross to die. People will still go to those same
lengths to silence the very Word which will bring them salvation and
turn their conscience towards God. This is the nature of man.

Your total message is non-responsive to what I wrote.

It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
article <43BD7CE8.43A5CC26@heartmdphd.com>:

Don Kirkman wrote:

It seems to me I heard somewhere that

"I'm telling you the most solemn and sober truth now: Whoever believes
in me has real life, eternal life. I am the Bread of Life. Your
ancestors ate the manna bread in the desert and died. But now here is
Bread that truly comes down out of heaven. Anyone eating this Bread
will not die, ever. I am the Bread--living Bread!-who came down out of
heaven. Anyone who eats this Bread will live--and forever! The Bread
that I present to the world so that it can eat and live is myself, this
flesh-and-blood self." John 6 : 47-50 The Message

This is a very interpretive (i.e., going beyond the original language)
translation. The Revised Standard Version is much truer to the original
Greek text and to the way Jesus reportedly spoke and taught, that is to
say poetically and symbolically:

"Truly, truly*, I say to you, he who believes has eternal life. I am
the bread of life. Your fathers ate the manna in the wilderness, and
they died. This is the bread which comes down from heaven, that a man
may eat of it and not die. I am the living bread which came down from
heaven; if any one eats of this bread , he will live forever; and the
bread which I shall give for the life of the world is my flesh."

* Doubled terms or phrases are typical of Hebrew (Semitic) poetry.

The other significant problem is that John is the most allegorical,
non-literal of the four Gospels. Fundamentalists who take things
literally make a mockery of the original teachings.

The LORD guides those who walk with HIM exactly how to use that which HE
teaches them. Because Carol's walk with the LORD is infinitely closer
than your walk, her use of HIS teachings is not mockery of HIM at all.
The same can not be written concerning your comments about the Gospels.

The Lord knows who walks with him and who doesn't;

not all who say
"Lord, Lord" know him nor will they find him.

Repent while there is
time, Doc.

BTW, you really do need to work on your comprehension skills. Nowhere
did I say Carol's message is "mockery of HIM" (though it is) but that it
is "a mockery of the original teachings", an example of fundamentalist
oversimplification and reliance on tendentious teachers.

Truth is simple.

Sometimes.

So is error, usually;

yours is extremely simple in mind and
in knowledge of Christian doctrine.

It seems to be you and Carol
against millions of Christians in thousands of generations who have read
and understood the documents and the teachings..

It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
article <43BD7CE8.43A5CC26@heartmdphd.com>:

Don Kirkman wrote:

It seems to me I heard somewhere that

"I'm telling you the most solemn and sober truth now: Whoever believes
in me has real life, eternal life. I am the Bread of Life. Your
ancestors ate the manna bread in the desert and died. But now here is
Bread that truly comes down out of heaven. Anyone eating this Bread
will not die, ever. I am the Bread--living Bread!-who came down out of
heaven. Anyone who eats this Bread will live--and forever! The Bread
that I present to the world so that it can eat and live is myself, this
flesh-and-blood self." John 6 : 47-50 The Message

This is a very interpretive (i.e., going beyond the original language)
translation. The Revised Standard Version is much truer to the original
Greek text and to the way Jesus reportedly spoke and taught, that is to
say poetically and symbolically:

"Truly, truly*, I say to you, he who believes has eternal life. I am
the bread of life. Your fathers ate the manna in the wilderness, and
they died. This is the bread which comes down from heaven, that a man
may eat of it and not die. I am the living bread which came down from
heaven; if any one eats of this bread , he will live forever; and the
bread which I shall give for the life of the world is my flesh."

* Doubled terms or phrases are typical of Hebrew (Semitic) poetry.

The other significant problem is that John is the most allegorical,
non-literal of the four Gospels. Fundamentalists who take things
literally make a mockery of the original teachings.

The LORD guides those who walk with HIM exactly how to use that which HE
teaches them. Because Carol's walk with the LORD is infinitely closer
than your walk, her use of HIS teachings is not mockery of HIM at all.
The same can not be written concerning your comments about the Gospels.

The Lord knows who walks with him and who doesn't;

not all who say
"Lord, Lord" know him nor will they find him.

Repent while there is
time, Doc.

BTW, you really do need to work on your comprehension skills. Nowhere
did I say Carol's message is "mockery of HIM" (though it is) but that it
is "a mockery of the original teachings", an example of fundamentalist
oversimplification and reliance on tendentious teachers.

Truth is simple.

Sometimes.

So is error, usually;

yours is extremely simple in mind and
in knowledge of Christian doctrine.

It seems to be you and Carol
against millions of Christians in thousands of generations who have read
and understood the documents and the teachings..