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"Zeno" |
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08 Feb 2007 02:36:55 AM |
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Consequences of publishing your "war" manual |
With modern technology, and the Internet, the Quran can easily be read
by anyone. If you have read it, you know that it has a lot to say
about killing "Infidels".
Modern technology may be Islam's undoing though - because publishing
your "war" manual, for infidels to read, is a plan to loose your ***** -
bad.
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| User: "Rob Brown" |
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| Title: Re: Consequences of publishing your "war" manual |
08 Feb 2007 12:28:26 PM |
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"Zeno" <Zeno@home.kom> wrote in message
news:j7nls2h81pqen021ofj07no3ehmbbi7eju@4ax.com...
With modern technology, and the Internet, the Quran can easily be read
by anyone. If you have read it, you know that it has a lot to say
about killing "Infidels".
The Old Testement has the same instructions to followers of the
Jewish/Christian god. They just don't currently act on them but often did in
the past. Unrestricted religious fundementalism has the potential to go
there regardless of the name of the religion.
Secular government is essential in preventing what you fear. Muslim
extremeism is the current iteration of religion with too much power. Many
people will not willingly concede to someone's magic guy rules by proxie. If
you want obedience to some of the crap religions dictate you'll need to use
the most violent enforcement.
Rob Brown
Modern technology may be Islam's undoing though - because publishing
your "war" manual, for infidels to read, is a plan to loose your ***** -
bad.
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| User: "Zeno" |
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| Title: Re: Consequences of publishing your "war" manual |
09 Feb 2007 02:12:36 AM |
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On Thu, 8 Feb 2007 13:28:26 -0500, "Rob Brown" <bbrown@csmflorida.com>
wrote:
"Zeno" <Zeno@home.kom> wrote in message
news:j7nls2h81pqen021ofj07no3ehmbbi7eju@4ax.com...
With modern technology, and the Internet, the Quran can easily be read
by anyone. If you have read it, you know that it has a lot to say
about killing "Infidels".
The Old Testement has the same instructions to followers of the
Jewish/Christian god. They just don't currently act on them but often did in
the past. Unrestricted religious fundementalism has the potential to go
there regardless of the name of the religion.
Secular government is essential in preventing what you fear. Muslim
extremeism is the current iteration of religion with too much power. Many
people will not willingly concede to someone's magic guy rules by proxie.
Are you aware of the unwilling concession (eg land grab) of Persia to
Arabs? That is, the subjugation of the religion of Zoroastrians by
the religion of Muslims.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Iranianism#Anti-Iranianism_in_early_Islam
Persia lost its name during the subjugation and is now called the
Islamic Republic of Iran now. Persians lost a lot of other things
too.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Iranianism#Toponymical_anti-Iranianism
If
you want obedience to some of the crap religions dictate you'll need to use
the most violent enforcement.
Rob Brown
Modern technology may be Islam's undoing though - because publishing
your "war" manual, for infidels to read, is a plan to loose your ***** -
bad.
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| User: "Rob Brown" |
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| Title: Re: Consequences of publishing your "war" manual |
09 Feb 2007 09:43:13 AM |
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"Zeno" <Zeno@home.kom> wrote in message
news:499os2hv53c29cr9hv76muuovauikdp69j@4ax.com...
On Thu, 8 Feb 2007 13:28:26 -0500, "Rob Brown" <bbrown@csmflorida.com>
wrote:
"Zeno" <Zeno@home.kom> wrote in message
news:j7nls2h81pqen021ofj07no3ehmbbi7eju@4ax.com...
With modern technology, and the Internet, the Quran can easily be read
by anyone. If you have read it, you know that it has a lot to say
about killing "Infidels".
The Old Testement has the same instructions to followers of the
Jewish/Christian god. They just don't currently act on them but often did
in
the past. Unrestricted religious fundementalism has the potential to go
there regardless of the name of the religion.
Secular government is essential in preventing what you fear. Muslim
extremeism is the current iteration of religion with too much power. Many
people will not willingly concede to someone's magic guy rules by proxie.
Are you aware of the unwilling concession (eg land grab) of Persia to
Arabs? That is, the subjugation of the religion of Zoroastrians by
the religion of Muslims.
I actually don't know the details. But I certainly oppose anyone's attempt
to force religious beliefs on anyone, anywhere. Why the hell do the idiots
who do that think it's right? Other than basic human greed, and control
motivations I don't get it. This tendency is not confined to Islamic nuts.
They are just the most active, visible and violent group at this point in
time.
I don't care what anyone believes as long as they don't impose it on me by
force.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Iranianism#Anti-Iranianism_in_early_Islam
Persia lost its name during the subjugation and is now called the
Islamic Republic of Iran now. Persians lost a lot of other things
too.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Iranianism#Toponymical_anti-Iranianism
If
you want obedience to some of the crap religions dictate you'll need to
use
the most violent enforcement.
Rob Brown
Modern technology may be Islam's undoing though - because publishing
your "war" manual, for infidels to read, is a plan to loose your ***** -
bad.
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| User: "TUKA" |
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| Title: Re: Consequences of publishing your "war" manual |
09 Feb 2007 10:18:33 AM |
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On 2007-02-09, Rob Brown <bbrown@csmflorida.com> wrote:
"Zeno" <Zeno@home.kom> wrote in message
news:499os2hv53c29cr9hv76muuovauikdp69j@4ax.com...
On Thu, 8 Feb 2007 13:28:26 -0500, "Rob Brown" <bbrown@csmflorida.com>
wrote:
"Zeno" <Zeno@home.kom> wrote in message
news:j7nls2h81pqen021ofj07no3ehmbbi7eju@4ax.com...
With modern technology, and the Internet, the Quran can easily be read
by anyone. If you have read it, you know that it has a lot to say
about killing "Infidels".
The Old Testement has the same instructions to followers of the
Jewish/Christian god. They just don't currently act on them but often did
in
the past. Unrestricted religious fundementalism has the potential to go
there regardless of the name of the religion.
Secular government is essential in preventing what you fear. Muslim
extremeism is the current iteration of religion with too much power. Many
people will not willingly concede to someone's magic guy rules by proxie.
Are you aware of the unwilling concession (eg land grab) of Persia to
Arabs? That is, the subjugation of the religion of Zoroastrians by
the religion of Muslims.
I actually don't know the details. But I certainly oppose anyone's attempt
to force religious beliefs on anyone, anywhere. Why the hell do the idiots
who do that think it's right? Other than basic human greed, and control
motivations I don't get it. This tendency is not confined to Islamic nuts.
They are just the most active, visible and violent group at this point in
time.
"Just"? They dominate the field, and have for the past several decades.
With no end in sight. In numbers never before been seen in the world. With
a degree of influence on daily activities never before seen in the world.
Just, indeed. You are another of the stupid fuckers trying to equate
molehills with mountains. The Muslims are the major religious problem in the
world today, to a degree that all others fade into insignificance.
--
Fast, reliable, cheap. Pick two and we'll talk. -- unknown
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| User: "Grande Mal" |
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| Title: Re: Consequences of publishing your "war" manual |
08 Feb 2007 06:10:08 PM |
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"Zeno" <Zeno@home.kom> wrote in message
news:j7nls2h81pqen021ofj07no3ehmbbi7eju@4ax.com...
With modern technology, and the Internet, the Quran can easily be read
by anyone. If you have read it, you know that it has a lot to say
about killing "Infidels".
Modern technology may be Islam's undoing though - because publishing
your "war" manual, for infidels to read, is a plan to loose your ***** -
bad.
Yeah, technology can be a good thing. On the other hand, numbskulls who's
voices probably annoy everyone else in the trailer park get to annoy people
around the world.
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| User: "Zeno" |
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| Title: Re: Consequences of publishing your "war" manual |
22 Feb 2007 12:19:33 AM |
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On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 00:10:08 GMT, "Grande Mal" <ironwrkr@hotmail.com>
wrote:
"Zeno" <Zeno@home.kom> wrote in message
news:j7nls2h81pqen021ofj07no3ehmbbi7eju@4ax.com...
With modern technology, and the Internet, the Quran can easily be read
by anyone. If you have read it, you know that it has a lot to say
about killing "Infidels".
Modern technology may be Islam's undoing though - because publishing
your "war" manual, for infidels to read, is a plan to loose your ***** -
bad.
Yeah, technology can be a good thing. On the other hand, numbskulls who's
voices probably annoy everyone else in the trailer park get to annoy people
around the world.
So you would prefer censorship?
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| User: "Brian E. Clark" |
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| Title: Re: Consequences of publishing your "war" manual |
08 Feb 2007 05:03:09 PM |
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In article <j7nls2h81pqen021ofj07no3ehmbbi7eju@4ax.com>,
Zeno said...
With modern technology, and the Internet, the Quran can easily be read
by anyone. If you have read it, you know that it has a lot to say
about killing "Infidels".
Are you under the impression that it was difficult to find
a translation of the Koran before the advent of the
Internet?
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Brian E. Clark
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| User: "Rich Travsky" |
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| Title: Re: Consequences of publishing your "war" manual |
09 Feb 2007 11:44:41 PM |
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"Brian E. Clark" wrote:
In article <j7nls2h81pqen021ofj07no3ehmbbi7eju@4ax.com>,
Zeno said...
With modern technology, and the Internet, the Quran can easily be read
by anyone. If you have read it, you know that it has a lot to say
about killing "Infidels".
Are you under the impression that it was difficult to find
a translation of the Koran before the advent of the
Internet?
rightards!
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| User: "Zeno" |
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| Title: Re: Consequences of publishing your "war" manual |
09 Feb 2007 02:23:50 AM |
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On Thu, 8 Feb 2007 18:03:09 -0500, Brian E. Clark
<reply@newsgroup.only.please> wrote:
In article <j7nls2h81pqen021ofj07no3ehmbbi7eju@4ax.com>,
Zeno said...
With modern technology, and the Internet, the Quran can easily be read
by anyone. If you have read it, you know that it has a lot to say
about killing "Infidels".
Are you under the impression that it was difficult to find
a translation of the Koran before the advent of the
Internet?
As I said before, modern technology may be Islam's undoing. Publishing
your "war" manual, for your enemy to read, is a plan to loose your *****
(eg - a crushing defeat).
You seem unaware that muslims have declared war on American by
religious fatwah.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/terrorism/international/fatwa_1998.html
Having a fatwah means that a muslim jihadist may kill another muslim
if that muslim doesn't comply with the fatwah against americans.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatwa
This is a contributing factor,by jihadists, to the warring going on in
Iraq.
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| User: "ernobe" |
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| Title: Re: Consequences of publishing your "war" manual |
08 Feb 2007 02:12:48 PM |
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On Feb 8, 2:36 am, Zeno <Z...@home.kom> wrote:
With modern technology, and the Internet, the Quran can easily be read
by anyone. If you have read it, you know that it has a lot to say
about killing "Infidels".
Modern technology may be Islam's undoing though - because publishing
your "war" manual, for infidels to read, is a plan to loose your ***** -
bad.
Luckily, technology and the internet also brings to light who started
the war against Islam. Having a chance to read the Quran before
enough atheists get in power to make war against it will perhaps make
them realize that sooner or later they will have to read it anyway, so
they might as well surrender. The word 'islam' literally means
submission in arabic. If you read the Quran, you're not being asked
to convert to some idea or give up some other one, because God does
not wage war on anyone. The idea is, God has won, and you are being
dictated the terms of your surrender.
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| User: "Rob Brown" |
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| Title: Re: Consequences of publishing your "war" manual |
09 Feb 2007 09:32:33 AM |
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"ernobe" <ernobe@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1170965568.113456.233280@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 8, 2:36 am, Zeno <Z...@home.kom> wrote:
With modern technology, and the Internet, the Quran can easily be read
by anyone. If you have read it, you know that it has a lot to say
about killing "Infidels".
Modern technology may be Islam's undoing though - because publishing
your "war" manual, for infidels to read, is a plan to loose your ***** -
bad.
Luckily, technology and the internet also brings to light who started
the war against Islam. Having a chance to read the Quran before
enough atheists get in power to make war against it
The only war I will support against Islam is a defensive war. I don't give
a ***** about your religion or beliefs until you try to force them on me. The
same goes for any religion.
will perhaps make
them realize that sooner or later they will have to read it anyway,
Why will I have to read it? I have read a little of it by choice and all it
did for me was confirm that there's nothing special about it. It's just more
mindless religious *****.
so
they might as well surrender.
Surrender? That will never ever happen. So, dream on if it makes you feel
good but your dream will never become a reality.
The word 'islam' literally means
submission in arabic. If you read the Quran, you're not being asked
to convert to some idea or give up some other one, because God does
not wage war on anyone.
You'r absolutely right god won't wage war, god doesn't do anything. People
do.
The idea is, God has won, and you are being
dictated the terms of your surrender.
Only in your religious wet dreams. When your magic guy comes down here and
makes me surrender I might. Up to this point all I see are a bunch of
violent control freak human proxies for the magic guy in the sky willing to
do *anything* to impose their fantisy on others. There are some of the
worst of humanity, truely despicable.
Rob Brown
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| User: "ernobe" |
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09 Feb 2007 04:36:28 PM |
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On Feb 9, 9:32 am, "Rob Brown" <bbr...@csmflorida.com> wrote:
"ernobe" <ern...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1170965568.113456.233280@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 8, 2:36 am, Zeno <Z...@home.kom> wrote:
With modern technology, and the Internet, the Quran can easily be read
by anyone. If you have read it, you know that it has a lot to say
about killing "Infidels".
Modern technology may be Islam's undoing though - because publishing
your "war" manual, for infidels to read, is a plan to loose your ***** -
bad.
Luckily, technology and the internet also brings to light who started
the war against Islam. Having a chance to read the Quran before
enough atheists get in power to make war against it
The only war I will support against Islam is a defensive war. I don't give
a ***** about your religion or beliefs until you try to force them on me. The
same goes for any religion.
will perhaps make
them realize that sooner or later they will have to read it anyway,
Why will I have to read it? I have read a little of it by choice and all it
did for me was confirm that there's nothing special about it. It's just more
mindless religious *****.
so
they might as well surrender.
Surrender? That will never ever happen. So, dream on if it makes you feel
good but your dream will never become a reality.
The word 'islam' literally means
submission in arabic. If you read the Quran, you're not being asked
to convert to some idea or give up some other one, because God does
not wage war on anyone.
You'r absolutely right god won't wage war, god doesn't do anything. People
do.
The idea is, God has won, and you are being
dictated the terms of your surrender.
Only in your religious wet dreams. When your magic guy comes down here and
makes me surrender I might. Up to this point all I see are a bunch of
violent control freak human proxies for the magic guy in the sky willing to
do *anything* to impose their fantisy on others. There are some of the
worst of humanity, truely despicable.
That's true because, unlike you, they know enough of the Quran to know
the extent of their crimes.
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| User: "Zeno" |
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| Title: Re: Consequences of publishing your "war" manual |
09 Feb 2007 02:21:21 PM |
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On Fri, 9 Feb 2007 10:32:33 -0500, "Rob Brown" <bbrown@csmflorida.com>
wrote:
The only war I will support against Islam is a defensive war. I don't give
a ***** about your religion or beliefs until you try to force them on me. The
same goes for any religion.
It is likely that deporting muslims and halting their immigration and
visitation is a sufficient defense.
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| User: " First-2-Die" |
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| Title: Re: Consequences of publishing your "war" manual |
08 Feb 2007 02:18:05 PM |
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"ernobe" <ernobe@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1170965568.113456.233280@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 8, 2:36 am, Zeno <Z...@home.kom> wrote:
With modern technology, and the Internet, the Quran can easily be read
by anyone. If you have read it, you know that it has a lot to say
about killing "Infidels".
Modern technology may be Islam's undoing though - because publishing
your "war" manual, for infidels to read, is a plan to loose your ***** -
bad.
Luckily, technology and the internet also brings to light who started
the war against Islam. Having a chance to read the Quran before
enough atheists get in power to make war against it will perhaps make
them realize that sooner or later they will have to read it anyway, so
they might as well surrender. The word 'islam' literally means
submission in arabic. If you read the Quran, you're not being asked
to convert to some idea or give up some other one, because God does
not wage war on anyone. The idea is, God has won, and you are being
dictated the terms of your surrender.
Ham sandwich anyone? I made extra.
Red White and Blue
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| User: "Grande Mal" |
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| Title: Re: Consequences of publishing your "war" manual |
08 Feb 2007 06:15:58 PM |
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" First-2-Die" <YeahRight201@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:1ALyh.22119$yx6.4400@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
"ernobe" <ernobe@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1170965568.113456.233280@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 8, 2:36 am, Zeno <Z...@home.kom> wrote:
With modern technology, and the Internet, the Quran can easily be read
by anyone. If you have read it, you know that it has a lot to say
about killing "Infidels".
Modern technology may be Islam's undoing though - because publishing
your "war" manual, for infidels to read, is a plan to loose your ***** -
bad.
Luckily, technology and the internet also brings to light who started
the war against Islam. Having a chance to read the Quran before
enough atheists get in power to make war against it will perhaps make
them realize that sooner or later they will have to read it anyway, so
they might as well surrender. The word 'islam' literally means
submission in arabic. If you read the Quran, you're not being asked
to convert to some idea or give up some other one, because God does
not wage war on anyone. The idea is, God has won, and you are being
dictated the terms of your surrender.
Ham sandwich anyone? I made extra.
Red White and Blue
Hey, sure. Over here. Uh, is this all you got for beer?
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| User: "Zeno" |
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09 Feb 2007 01:34:26 AM |
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On 8 Feb 2007 12:12:48 -0800, "ernobe" <ernobe@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Feb 8, 2:36 am, Zeno <Z...@home.kom> wrote:
With modern technology, and the Internet, the Quran can easily be read
by anyone. If you have read it, you know that it has a lot to say
about killing "Infidels".
Modern technology may be Islam's undoing though - because publishing
your "war" manual, for infidels to read, is a plan to loose your ***** -
bad.
Luckily, technology and the internet also brings to light who started
the war against Islam.
You may have missed it. WW3 started on 9/11.
Having a chance to read the Quran before
enough atheists get in power to make war against it will perhaps make
them realize that sooner or later they will have to read it anyway, so
they might as well surrender. The word 'islam' literally means
submission in arabic. If you read the Quran, you're not being asked
to convert to some idea or give up some other one, because God does
not wage war on anyone. The idea is, God has won, and you are being
dictated the terms of your surrender.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Consequences of publishing your "war" manual |
08 Feb 2007 03:47:37 AM |
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On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 02:36:55 -0600, Zeno <Zeno@home.kom> wrote:
- Refer: <j7nls2h81pqen021ofj07no3ehmbbi7eju@4ax.com>
With modern technology, and the Internet, the Quran can easily be read
by anyone. If you have read it, you know that it has a lot to say
about killing "Infidels".
Modern technology may be Islam's undoing though - because publishing
your "war" manual, for infidels to read, is a plan to loose your ***** -
bad.
"loose" my "*****", "bad"???
So, the plan is: to release my Onager into Wyoming??
What are you smoking, Sherlock?
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| User: "Deuteros" |
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| Title: Re: Consequences of publishing your "war" manual |
10 Feb 2007 04:58:31 PM |
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Zeno <Zeno@home.kom> wrote in
news:j7nls2h81pqen021ofj07no3ehmbbi7eju@4ax.com:
With modern technology, and the Internet, the Quran can easily be read
by anyone. If you have read it, you know that it has a lot to say
about killing "Infidels".
Modern technology may be Islam's undoing though - because publishing
your "war" manual, for infidels to read, is a plan to loose your ***** -
bad.
You mean how Bush announced to the world that he's planning to escalate
the war in Iraq by sending over tens of thousands of more troops?
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