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Topic:	Religions > Atheism
User:	"Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass"
Date:	14 Dec 2005 12:56:59 AM
Object:	Conservatives Try to Overturn the 14th Amendment

Going from The Party of Lincoln to the Party of Lincoln's Killer, eh?
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/constitution/amendment14/
"Section. 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States and
subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States
and of the State wherein they reside."
-----
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec (aka

aka Yang's little poltregeist *****)
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2145 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
-----
"Now, did I want to go? Hell no."
-duke (duckgumbo32@cox.net), aka PedophilEarl J Weber, 63
year old mateless, heirless biological failure
of Afton Oaks Apartment, Baton Rouge, on why
a Neocon chickenhawk like him pussied out of
the Vietnam War.
.

User: "Del"
Title: Re: NeoCon Liying Scum of the Day: Mark "Faux News" Fox (GOP, The Party fo Lies)	22 Dec 2005 07:44:51 AM

I submit that Mark Fox, the far right extremist, is all
too typical of the GOP in general in his reckless
disregard for the truth or accuracy in his accusations
and his outright lying for partisan ends.
Example:
"You need to face the fact that Bill Clinton ran away from the white
house and left George Bush to clean up the economy and the rampant
terrorist infestation that Clinton let into the country because he was
too busy screwing monica and not defending America."
In reality it was Clinton who wanted to go after
terrorists and was pushing legislation to that end and
it was the republican congress who opposed him:
"But while the president pushed for quick legislation,
Republican lawmakers hardened their stance against some
of the proposed anti-terrorism measures."
President Wants Senate to Hurry
With New Anti-terrorism Laws
July 30, 1996
Web posted at: 8:40 p.m. EDT
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Clinton urged Congress
Tuesday to act swiftly in developing anti-terrorism
legislation before its August recess.
"We need to keep this country together right now.
We need to focus on this terrorism issue," Clinton
said during a White House news conference.
But while the president pushed for quick legislation,
Republican lawmakers hardened their stance against some
of the proposed anti-terrorism measures.
Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott, R-Mississippi, doubted
that the Senate would rush to action before they recess
this weekend. The Senate needs to study all the options,
he said, and trying to get it done in the next three days
would be tough.
[...]
The president emphasized coming to terms on specific areas
of disagreement would help move the legislation along. The
president stressed it's important to get the legislation out
before the weekend's recess, especially following the bombing
of Centennial Olympic Park and the crash of TWA Flight 800.
"The most important thing right now is that they get the
best, strongest bill they can out -- that they give us as much
help as they can," he said.
Hatch blasts 'phony' issues
Republican leaders earlier met with White House Chief of
Staff Leon Panetta for about an hour in response to the
president's call for "the very best ideas" for fighting
terrorism.
Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, chairman of the Senate Judiciary
Committee, emerged from the meeting and said, "These are
very controversial provisions that the White House wants.
Some they're not going to get."
[...]
He also said he had some problems with
the president's proposals to expand wiretapping.
---------------
Congress reached compromise on
anti-terrorism bill
April 16, 1996
Web posted at: 12:45 a.m. EDT
WASHINGTON (CNN) --
[...]
The Republicans also dropped the additional wire-tap
authority the Clinton administration wanted. U.S.
Attorney general Janet Reno had asked for "multi-point"
tapping of suspected terrorists, who may be using
advanced technology to outpace authorities.
-----
In Oct, 2000 terrorists attacked the USS Cole.
Clinton's counter terrorism team constructed an
aggressive plan to retalate against al Qaeda which hit
National Security advisor Sandy Berger's desk on Dec.
20. With less than a month left in his administration
Clinton turned the plan over to the incoming Bush
administration. Outgoing CIA director George Tenet
called al Qaeda an "immediate" and "tremendous threat."
Six days after Bush took office the FBI had clear
evidence that the Cole bombing was the work of al
Qaeda. Even though Candidate Bush said "There must be a
consequence," Bush did nothing.
Five days later the Hart Rudman report was released
urging immediate steps to protect the US from terrorist
attack. Bush buried it. He called for a government wide
review headed by Cheney which never took place.
Head of counter terrorism, Richard Clark, came up with
a comprehensive plan to "roll back" al Queda, going
after them in at least 6 nations. Instead of acting on
the plan Bush ignored it and demoted Clark.
------------
TO THE CONGRESS OF THE UNITED STATES:
Today I am transmitting for your immediate
consideration and enactment the "Antiterrorism
Amendments Act of 1995." This comprehensive Act,
together with the "Omnibus Counterterrorism Act of
1995," which I transmitted to the Congress on February
9, 1995, are critically important components of my
Administration's effort to combat domestic and
international terrorism.
The tragic bombing of the Murrah Federal Building in
Oklahoma City on April 19th stands as a challenge to
all Americans to preserve a safe society. In the wake
of this cowardly attack on innocent men, women, and
children, following other terrorist incidents at home
and abroad over the past several years, we must ensure
that law enforcement authorities have the legal tools
and resources they need to fight terrorism. The
Antiterrorism Amendments Act of 1995 will help us to
prevent terrorism through vigorous and effective
investigation and prosecution. Major provisions of this
Act would:
* Permit law enforcement agencies to gain access to
financial and credit reports in antiterrorism cases, as
is currently permitted with bank records. This would
allow such agencies to track the source and use of
funds by suspected terrorists.
* Apply the same legal standard in national security
cases that is currently used in other criminal cases
for obtaining permission to track telephone traffic
with "pen registers" and "trap and trace" devices.
* Enable law enforcement agencies to utilize the
national security letter process to obtain records
critical to terrorism investigations from hotels,
motels, common carriers, storage facilities, and
vehicle rental facilities.
* Expand the authority of law enforcement agencies to
conduct electronic surveillance, within constitutional
safeguards. Examples of this increased authority
include additions to the list of felonies that can be
used as the basis for a surveillance order, and
enhancement of law enforcement's ability to keep pace
with telecommunications technology by obtaining
multiple point wiretaps where it is impractical to
specify the number of the phone to be tapped (such as
the use of a series of cellular phones).
* Require the Department of the Treasury's Bureau of
Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms to study the inclusion
of taggants (microscopic particles) in standard
explosive device raw materials to permit tracing the
source of those materials after an explosion; whether
common chemicals used to manufacture explosives can be
rendered inert; and whether controls can be imposed on
certain basic chemicals used to manufacture other
explosives.
* Require the inclusion of taggants in standard
explosive device raw materials after the publication of
implementing regulations by the Secretary of the
Treasury.
* Enable law enforcement agencies to call on the
special expertise of the Department of Defense in
addressing offenses involving chemical and biological
weapons.
* Make mandatory at least a 10-year penalty for
transferring firearms or explosives with knowledge that
they will be used to commit a crime of violence and
criminalize the possession of stolen explosives.
* Impose enhanced penalties for terrorist attacks
against current and former Federal employees, and their
families, when the crime is committed because of the
employee's official duties.
* Provide a source of funds for the digital telephony
bill, which I signed into law last year, ensuring
court-authorized law enforcement access to electronic
surveillance of digitized communications.
These proposals are described in more detail in the
enclosed section- by-section analysis.
The Administration is prepared to work immediately with
the Congress to enact antiterrorism legislation. My
legislation will provide an effective and comprehensive
response to the threat of terrorism, while also
protecting our precious civil liberties. I urge the
prompt and favorable consideration of the
Administration's legislative proposals by the Congress.
WILLIAM J. CLINTON
.

User: "Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass"
Title: Re: NeoCon Liying Scum of the Day: Mark "Faux News" Fox (GOP, The Party fo Lies)	22 Dec 2005 09:23:18 AM

On 22 Dec 2005 05:44:51 -0800, "Del" <jfacts@earthlink.net> wrote:

Which one of Mark Fox's lie do you object to, the one on employment?
the national debt? Social Security?

Example:

"You need to face the fact that Bill Clinton ran away from the white
house and left George Bush to clean up the economy and the rampant
terrorist infestation that Clinton let into the country because he was
too busy screwing monica and not defending America."

In reality it was Clinton who wanted to go after
terrorists and was pushing legislation to that end and
it was the republican congress who opposed him:

"But while the president pushed for quick legislation,
Republican lawmakers hardened their stance against some
of the proposed anti-terrorism measures."

President Wants Senate to Hurry
With New Anti-terrorism Laws

July 30, 1996
Web posted at: 8:40 p.m. EDT

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Clinton urged Congress
Tuesday to act swiftly in developing anti-terrorism
legislation before its August recess.

"We need to keep this country together right now.
We need to focus on this terrorism issue," Clinton
said during a White House news conference.

But while the president pushed for quick legislation,
Republican lawmakers hardened their stance against some
of the proposed anti-terrorism measures.

Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott, R-Mississippi, doubted
that the Senate would rush to action before they recess
this weekend. The Senate needs to study all the options,
he said, and trying to get it done in the next three days
would be tough.

[...]

The president emphasized coming to terms on specific areas
of disagreement would help move the legislation along. The
president stressed it's important to get the legislation out
before the weekend's recess, especially following the bombing
of Centennial Olympic Park and the crash of TWA Flight 800.

"The most important thing right now is that they get the
best, strongest bill they can out -- that they give us as much
help as they can," he said.

Hatch blasts 'phony' issues

Republican leaders earlier met with White House Chief of
Staff Leon Panetta for about an hour in response to the
president's call for "the very best ideas" for fighting
terrorism.

Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, chairman of the Senate Judiciary
Committee, emerged from the meeting and said, "These are
very controversial provisions that the White House wants.
Some they're not going to get."

[...]

He also said he had some problems with
the president's proposals to expand wiretapping.

---------------

Congress reached compromise on
anti-terrorism bill

April 16, 1996
Web posted at: 12:45 a.m. EDT

WASHINGTON (CNN) --

[...]

The Republicans also dropped the additional wire-tap
authority the Clinton administration wanted. U.S.
Attorney general Janet Reno had asked for "multi-point"
tapping of suspected terrorists, who may be using
advanced technology to outpace authorities.

-----

In Oct, 2000 terrorists attacked the USS Cole.
Clinton's counter terrorism team constructed an
aggressive plan to retalate against al Qaeda which hit
National Security advisor Sandy Berger's desk on Dec.
20. With less than a month left in his administration
Clinton turned the plan over to the incoming Bush
administration. Outgoing CIA director George Tenet
called al Qaeda an "immediate" and "tremendous threat."

Six days after Bush took office the FBI had clear
evidence that the Cole bombing was the work of al
Qaeda. Even though Candidate Bush said "There must be a
consequence," Bush did nothing.

Five days later the Hart Rudman report was released
urging immediate steps to protect the US from terrorist
attack. Bush buried it. He called for a government wide
review headed by Cheney which never took place.

Head of counter terrorism, Richard Clark, came up with
a comprehensive plan to "roll back" al Queda, going
after them in at least 6 nations. Instead of acting on
the plan Bush ignored it and demoted Clark.

------------

TO THE CONGRESS OF THE UNITED STATES:

Today I am transmitting for your immediate
consideration and enactment the "Antiterrorism
Amendments Act of 1995." This comprehensive Act,
together with the "Omnibus Counterterrorism Act of
1995," which I transmitted to the Congress on February
9, 1995, are critically important components of my
Administration's effort to combat domestic and
international terrorism.

The tragic bombing of the Murrah Federal Building in
Oklahoma City on April 19th stands as a challenge to
all Americans to preserve a safe society. In the wake
of this cowardly attack on innocent men, women, and
children, following other terrorist incidents at home
and abroad over the past several years, we must ensure
that law enforcement authorities have the legal tools
and resources they need to fight terrorism. The
Antiterrorism Amendments Act of 1995 will help us to
prevent terrorism through vigorous and effective
investigation and prosecution. Major provisions of this
Act would:

* Permit law enforcement agencies to gain access to
financial and credit reports in antiterrorism cases, as
is currently permitted with bank records. This would
allow such agencies to track the source and use of
funds by suspected terrorists.

* Apply the same legal standard in national security
cases that is currently used in other criminal cases
for obtaining permission to track telephone traffic
with "pen registers" and "trap and trace" devices.

* Enable law enforcement agencies to utilize the
national security letter process to obtain records
critical to terrorism investigations from hotels,
motels, common carriers, storage facilities, and
vehicle rental facilities.

* Expand the authority of law enforcement agencies to
conduct electronic surveillance, within constitutional
safeguards. Examples of this increased authority
include additions to the list of felonies that can be
used as the basis for a surveillance order, and
enhancement of law enforcement's ability to keep pace
with telecommunications technology by obtaining
multiple point wiretaps where it is impractical to
specify the number of the phone to be tapped (such as
the use of a series of cellular phones).

* Require the Department of the Treasury's Bureau of
Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms to study the inclusion
of taggants (microscopic particles) in standard
explosive device raw materials to permit tracing the
source of those materials after an explosion; whether
common chemicals used to manufacture explosives can be
rendered inert; and whether controls can be imposed on
certain basic chemicals used to manufacture other
explosives.

* Require the inclusion of taggants in standard
explosive device raw materials after the publication of
implementing regulations by the Secretary of the
Treasury.

* Enable law enforcement agencies to call on the
special expertise of the Department of Defense in
addressing offenses involving chemical and biological
weapons.

* Make mandatory at least a 10-year penalty for
transferring firearms or explosives with knowledge that
they will be used to commit a crime of violence and
criminalize the possession of stolen explosives.

* Impose enhanced penalties for terrorist attacks
against current and former Federal employees, and their
families, when the crime is committed because of the
employee's official duties.

* Provide a source of funds for the digital telephony
bill, which I signed into law last year, ensuring
court-authorized law enforcement access to electronic
surveillance of digitized communications.

These proposals are described in more detail in the
enclosed section- by-section analysis.

The Administration is prepared to work immediately with
the Congress to enact antiterrorism legislation. My
legislation will provide an effective and comprehensive
response to the threat of terrorism, while also
protecting our precious civil liberties. I urge the
prompt and favorable consideration of the
Administration's legislative proposals by the Congress.

WILLIAM J. CLINTON

-----
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec (aka

aka Yang's little poltregeist *****)
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2158 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
-----
"Now, did I want to go? Hell no."
-duke (duckgumbo32@cox.net), aka PedophilEarl J Weber, 63
year old mateless, heirless biological failure
of Afton Oaks Apartment, Baton Rouge, on why
a Neocon chickenhawk like him pussied out of
the Vietnam War.
.

User: "Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass"
Title: Re: NeoCon Liying Scum of the Day: Mark "Faux News" Fox (GOP, The Party fo Lies)	20 Dec 2005 08:36:43 AM

On 20 Dec 2005 06:08:28 -0800, "Mark Fox" <mark_fox_@yahoo.com> wrote:

The resulting $1 TRILLION Debt being the burden of future generations.

GOP, the Party of Treason

Cancel social security and the debt would soon be gone. You need to
face the fact that it is you who burdens future generations with your
ponsi scheme retirement plans. The social security system will tax
your grand children in order to pay you not to work. Is that what you
want??

Oh look another Mark Fox Lie. SS has been running surpluses.

Only on paper. All the money is gone. Its been gone for more than
twenty years. The feds spent it and it has nothing to do with Bush.

BZZZZ.
What a fucking moron. ALL money is ON PAPER. The Money is GONE because
AWOL and GOP LOOTED it. 1.2 TRILLION "Medicare" boondoggle, a bridge
to no where in Alaska, subsidy for Hooters.
GOP, The Party of Treason.

AWOL has
been looting the SS fund to make his nationel debt look less bad.

You lie was exposed above even before you uttered it. You must be
slowing down in your old age.

Keep trying, *****.
-----
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec (aka

aka Yang's little poltregeist *****)
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2156 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
-----
"Now, did I want to go? Hell no."
-duke (duckgumbo32@cox.net), aka PedophilEarl J Weber, 63
year old mateless, heirless biological failure
of Afton Oaks Apartment, Baton Rouge, on why
a Neocon chickenhawk like him pussied out of
the Vietnam War.
.

User: "Mark Fox"
Title: Re: NeoCon Liying Scum of the Day: Mark "Faux News" Fox (GOP, The Party fo Lies)	20 Dec 2005 05:29:20 PM

Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:

On 20 Dec 2005 06:08:28 -0800, "Mark Fox" <mark_fox_@yahoo.com> wrote:

The resulting $1 TRILLION Debt being the burden of future generations.

GOP, the Party of Treason

Oh look another Mark Fox Lie. SS has been running surpluses.

Only on paper. All the money is gone. Its been gone for more than
twenty years. The feds spent it and it has nothing to do with Bush.

BZZZZ.

What a fucking moron.

You are like a 12 year old boy who just learned a new bad word. LOL!!

ALL money is ON PAPER.

Another brilliant observation from one of the biggest morons on the
internet. lol

The Money is GONE because
AWOL and GOP LOOTED it.

The US has been in debt for over 20 years. The money has been gone a
long time. You are just a stupid nut ball and don't have a clue.

Keep trying, *****.

I only respond to you because its entertaining. You are the laughing
stock of the entire news group. Everyone is laughing at you. The
minute you become boring to me, you're done. Stick a fork in ya!
.

User: "Paul Duca"
Title: Re: NeoCon Liying Scum of the Day: Mark "Faux News" Fox (GOP, TheParty fo Lies)	19 Dec 2005 09:52:54 PM

in article 1134961459.112525.157340@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com, Mark Fox
at

wrote on 12/18/05 10:04 PM:

Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:

On 18 Dec 2005 10:43:09 -0800, "Mark Fox" <

> wrote:

Paul Duca wrote:

in article 1134918187.101749.224140@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com, Mark Fox
at

wrote on 12/18/05 10:03 AM:

Yang, AthD...Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:

ausstu@primus.com.au wrote:

Mark Fox wrote:

Yang, AthD ...Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:

"Mark Fox" <

> wrote:

Bush's debt is less per GDP than it was under Clinton.

Bzzzzt:

Here are the facts

Year US debt held by the public as a percentage of GDP
------ --------------------
1993 49.4 Clinton takes office.
1994 49.3
1995 49.2
1996 48.5
1997 46.1
1998 43.1
1999 39.8
2000 35.1
2001 33.1 George W. Bush takes office
2002 34.1
2003 36.1
2004 36.6

This data was specifically on the table found at:
http://frwebgate2.access.gpo.gov/

As you can clearly see, Clinton spent most of his "dress staining" days
with a federal debt percentage running in the forties and high
thirties. Bush's debt percentage is in the low to mid thirties.

Are you so stupid that you don't understand what these stats mean?

I'm fully aware of what they mean. If you bother to go back and look,
you will notice that I never addressed the issue of rising or falling
debt. I only stated the simple and correct fact that the level of debt
held by the public as a percentage of GDP is much smaller right now
under Bush than it was during many of the years under Clinton.

You libtards then proceeded to pop a vein and blow a gasket over stuff
I never said.

Just like Dan Rather's fake memos and Newsweeks fake stories, you
liberals fly off the handle and into orbit over many things that either
never happened or are faked by other liberals. Its all very funny to
watch.

I have been yanking your chain and you both have been dancing like
little circus dogs.

Given the shallowness of thinking by the libtards on this group, I
expected that this would happen and you have provided much
entertainment. Thanks!!

Clinton did a marvelous job to reduce Public debt as a % of GDP from
49.35 TO 33.1% and Bush in a few short years reversed that from 33.1%
to 36.6%.

This is true. I never said it wasn't.

But yet you still danced and sang for me. It was fun to watch.
Thanks. LOL!!

Does it make up for the money you never get?

Paul

Thanks to George Bush's tax cuts I could afford to go on an extra
vacation this year.

The resulting $1 TRILLION Debt being the burden of future generations.

GOP, the Party of Treason

Cancel social security and the debt would soon be gone.

I like your endearing assumption that you and everone else will have
enough money to live in their old age...I guess you also presume people will
happily work until they die.
Paul
.

User: "Mark Fox"
Title: Re: NeoCon Liying Scum of the Day: Mark "Faux News" Fox (GOP, The Party fo Lies)	20 Dec 2005 08:04:27 AM

Paul Duca wrote:

Mark Fox

Yang, AthD ...Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:

"Mark Fox" wrote:

Paul Duca wrote:

Mark Fox

Yang, AthD...Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:

ausstu@primus.com.au wrote:

Mark Fox wrote:

Yang, AthD ...Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:

"Mark Fox" <mark_fox_@yahoo.com> wrote:

Bush's debt is less per GDP than it was under Clinton.

Are you so stupid that you don't understand what these stats mean?

Clinton did a marvelous job to reduce Public debt as a % of GDP from
49.35 TO 33.1% and Bush in a few short years reversed that from 33.1%
to 36.6%.

This is true. I never said it wasn't.

But yet you still danced and sang for me. It was fun to watch.
Thanks. LOL!!

Does it make up for the money you never get?

Thanks to George Bush's tax cuts I could afford to go on an extra
vacation this year.

The resulting $1 TRILLION Debt being the burden of future generations.

GOP, the Party of Treason

Cancel social security and the debt would soon be gone.

I like your endearing assumption that you and everone else will have
enough money to live in their old age...

Those of us who have been saving ten percent of their income all their
working lives in 401ks and IRAs will have more than enough.

I guess you also presume people will
happily work until they die.

The only ones who will have to work until they die are the ones who
don't do the above.
Government has proven that they are only able to rein in its spending
habits after its allowance is restricted just like your father used to
do.
.

User: "Paul Duca"
Title: Re: NeoCon Liying Scum of the Day: Mark "Faux News" Fox (GOP, TheParty fo Lies)	18 Dec 2005 06:41:00 PM

in article 1134931389.078282.266450@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com, Mark Fox
at

wrote on 12/18/05 1:43 PM:

Paul Duca wrote:

in article 1134918187.101749.224140@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com, Mark Fox
at

wrote on 12/18/05 10:03 AM:

Yang, AthD...Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:

ausstu@primus.com.au wrote:

Mark Fox wrote:

Yang, AthD ...Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:

"Mark Fox" <

> wrote:

Bush's debt is less per GDP than it was under Clinton.

Are you so stupid that you don't understand what these stats mean?

Clinton did a marvelous job to reduce Public debt as a % of GDP from
49.35 TO 33.1% and Bush in a few short years reversed that from 33.1%
to 36.6%.

This is true. I never said it wasn't.

But yet you still danced and sang for me. It was fun to watch.
Thanks. LOL!!

Does it make up for the money you never get?

Paul

Thanks to George Bush's tax cuts I could afford to go on an extra
vacation this year. I did my duty by quickly spending my tax reduction
thereby doing my part in stimulating the economy. Life is good in
America today.

Tell that to someone whose house was washed away...
Paul
.

User: "Mark Fox"
Title: Re: NeoCon Liying Scum of the Day: Mark "Faux News" Fox (GOP, The Party fo Lies)	18 Dec 2005 09:02:04 PM

Paul Duca wrote:

in article 1134931389.078282.266450@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com, Mark Fox
at

wrote on 12/18/05 1:43 PM:

Paul Duca wrote:

in article 1134918187.101749.224140@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com, Mark Fox
at

wrote on 12/18/05 10:03 AM:

Yang, AthD...Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:

ausstu@primus.com.au wrote:

Mark Fox wrote:

Yang, AthD ...Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:

"Mark Fox" <

> wrote:

Bush's debt is less per GDP than it was under Clinton.

Are you so stupid that you don't understand what these stats mean?

Clinton did a marvelous job to reduce Public debt as a % of GDP from
49.35 TO 33.1% and Bush in a few short years reversed that from 33.1%
to 36.6%.

This is true. I never said it wasn't.

But yet you still danced and sang for me. It was fun to watch.
Thanks. LOL!!

Does it make up for the money you never get?

Paul

Tell that to someone whose house was washed away...

If my house has to get washed away in a hurricane then I would rather
it happen in American than anywhere else in the world.
.

User: "Del"
Title: Re: NeoCon Liying Scum of the Day: Mark "Faux News" Fox (GOP, The Party fo Lies)	19 Dec 2005 09:57:06 AM

Mark Fox wrote:

Paul Duca wrote:

in article 1134931389.078282.266450@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com, Mark Fox
at

wrote on 12/18/05 1:43 PM:

Paul Duca wrote:

in article 1134918187.101749.224140@z14g2000cw z.googlegroups.com, Mark Fox
at

wrote on 12/18/05 10:03 AM:

Yang, AthD...Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:

ausstu@primus.com.au wrote:

Mark Fox wrote:

Yang, AthD ...Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:

"Mark Fox" <

> wrote:

Bush's debt is less per GDP than it was under Clinton.

Bzzzzt:

Here are the facts

Year US debt he ld by the public as a percentage of GDP
------ --------------------
1993 49.4 Clinton takes office.
1994 49.3
1995 49.2
1996 48.5
1997 46.1
1998 43.1
1999 39.8
2000 35.1
2001 33.1 George W. Bush takes office
2002 34.1
2003 36.1
2004 36.6

This data was specifically on the table found at:
http://frwebgate2.access.gpo.gov/

As you can clearly see, Clinton spent most of his "dress staining" days
with a federal debt percentage running in the forties and high
thirties. Bush's debt percentage is in the low to mid thirties.

Are you so stupid that you don't understand what these stats mean?

I'm fully aware of what they mean. If you bother to go back and look,
you will notice that I never addressed the issue of risin g or falling
debt. I only stated the simple and correct fact that the level of debt
held by the public as a percentage of GDP is much smaller right now
under Bush than it was during many of the years under Clinton.

You libtards then proceeded to pop a vein and blow a gasket over stuff
I never said.

Just like Dan Rather's fake memos and Newsweeks fake stories, you
liberals fly off the handle and into orbit over many things that either
never happened or are faked by other liberals. Its all very funny to
watch.

I have been yanking your chain and you both have been dancing like
little circus dogs.

Given the shallowness of thinking by the libtards on this group, I
expected that this would happen and you have provided much
entertainment. Thanks!!

Clinton did a marvelous job to reduce Public debt as a % of GDP from
49.35 TO 33.1% and Bush in a few short years reversed that from 33.1%
to 36.6%.

This is true. I never said it wasn't.

But yet you still danced and sang for me. It was fun to watch.
Thanks. LOL!!

Does it make up for the money you never get?

Paul

Tell that to someone whose house was washed away...

If my house has to get washed away in a hurricane then I would rather
it happen in American than anywhere else in the world.

And if 43 is going to bankrupt a country, you would
rather it happen to America than any other place in the
world.
It is shocking how far the GOP has moved from
traditional conservative values. Republicans used to be
fiscally conservative. Not any more. Big Government
Big Spending Bush hasn't seen a spending bill he hasn't
loved. Republicans used to recoil in horror at peace time
deficits. Not any more. Now they wallow in them.
Republicans used to be isolationists but not any more.
Now they are internationalist interventionists who embroil
the US into elective wars for the first time in our history.
Republicans used to be suspicious of government intrusion
into the private lives of citizens. Not any more. Actually this
value has been DOA for the GOP for long time now. The
"patriot" act is just the latest incarnation of this right wing
trend.
But I suppose Fox will prefer to ignore all this and offer up
more partisan cant cribbed from the latest GOP propaganda
sheet.
.

User: "Paul Duca"
Title: Re: NeoCon Liying Scum of the Day: Mark "Faux News" Fox (GOP, TheParty fo Lies)	19 Dec 2005 09:53:40 PM

in article 1134961324.349777.323830@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com, Mark Fox
at

wrote on 12/18/05 10:02 PM:

Paul Duca wrote:

in article 1134931389.078282.266450@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com, Mark Fox
at

wrote on 12/18/05 1:43 PM:

Paul Duca wrote:

in article 1134918187.101749.224140@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com, Mark Fox
at

wrote on 12/18/05 10:03 AM:

Yang, AthD...Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:

ausstu@primus.com.au wrote:

Mark Fox wrote:

Yang, AthD ...Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:

"Mark Fox" <

> wrote:

Bush's debt is less per GDP than it was under Clinton.

Are you so stupid that you don't understand what these stats mean?

Clinton did a marvelous job to reduce Public debt as a % of GDP from
49.35 TO 33.1% and Bush in a few short years reversed that from 33.1%
to 36.6%.

This is true. I never said it wasn't.

But yet you still danced and sang for me. It was fun to watch.
Thanks. LOL!!

Does it make up for the money you never get?

Paul

Tell that to someone whose house was washed away...

If my house has to get washed away in a hurricane then I would rather
it happen in American than anywhere else in the world.

Because you have the Stars and Stripes outside your refrigerator
carton?
Paul
.

User: "Del"
Title: Re: NeoCon Liying Scum of the Day: Mark "Faux News" Fox (GOP, The Party fo Lies)	18 Dec 2005 12:12:36 PM

Mark Fox wrote:

Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:

BWAHAHAHA, Another NeoCon making ***** up? Let look at the tale of the
tape shall we?

[...]

FACT: Recession happened under AWOL (www.nber.org)

Bzzzzt:

The Recession started two months before Clinton left office.

"This week, the official announcement came that our
economy has been in recession since March. And
unfortunately, to a lot of Americans, that news comes
as no surprise." -- GWB radio address, November, 2001.
Poor partisan liar Fox must ignore this and also ignore
the recognized arbiter of the start and end of recessions,
the National Bureau of Economic research who determined
the recession formally began in March 2001 also. Just
keep lying about this Mark. Keep calling Bush a liar too.
It does wonders for your "credibility." LOL!
.

User: "Mark Fox"
Title: Re: NeoCon Liying Scum of the Day: Mark "Faux News" Fox (GOP, The Party fo Lies)	18 Dec 2005 09:54:34 PM

Del wrote:

Mark Fox wrote:

Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:

BWAHAHAHA, Another NeoCon making ***** up? Let look at the tale of the
tape shall we?

[...]

FACT: Recession happened under AWOL (www.nber.org)

Bzzzzt:

The Recession started two months before Clinton left office.

LOL! you think we will just believe this because you stuck quotes
around it and stuck GWB behind it? Where did you get this? Where is
the link, moron? Why are you liberal liars so quick to throw out vague
claims but are always afraid to show where you got it??

Poor partisan liar Fox must ignore this and also ignore
the recognized arbiter of the start and end of recessions,
the National Bureau of Economic research who determined
the recession formally began in March 2001 also. Just
keep lying about this Mark. Keep calling Bush a liar too.
It does wonders for your "credibility." LOL!

The jobs data graph shown previously clearly shows job growth begining
its decline starting June 2000 and yet you run around in circles
playing little games to try and pretend there was no problem until
almost a year later. You are such a pathetic liar.
The titanic made the turn toward the iceburg in June 2000 and you want
to argue about the arrangement of the deck chairs until the next March.
LOL!!
.

User: "Del"
Title: Re: NeoCon Liying Scum of the Day: Mark "Faux News" Fox (GOP, The Party fo Lies)	19 Dec 2005 10:53:33 AM

Mark Fox wrote:

Del wrote:

Mark Fox wrote:

Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:

BWAHAHAHA, Another NeoCon making ***** up? Let look at the tale of the
tape shall we?

[...]

FACT: Reces sion happened under AWOL (www.nber.org)

Bzzzzt:

The Recession started two months before Clinton left office.

Is the White House good enough for you?
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/12/20011201.html
Now that you have the smoking gun, I'm sure you will
feel honor bound to retract your accusations about "liars"
and such, right?

The jobs data graph shown previously clearly shows job growth begining
its decline starting June 2000

A decline in job _growth_? That isn't a recession, dufus.
Not even close. A recession is an economy with two
successive quarters of no growth or negative growth.
I think you are in a bit over your head here.

and yet you run around in circles
playing little games to try and pretend there was no problem until
almost a year later. You are such a pathetic liar.

Tisk, tisk. Attacking the messenger when you don't
like (and can't refute) the message. Don't you think
it's obvious when you ignore the smoking gun
evidence and attack me instead? And rather
emotionally immature too.
It is obviously pointless to provide you with any evidence.
The only reason you demand it is to try to postpone
the inevitable.

The titanic made the turn toward the iceburg in June 2000 and you want
to argue about the arrangement of the deck chairs until the next March.

Your self serving straw man/ false analogy looks
suspiciously like you running in circles and playing
little games when you can't refute the evidence.

LOL!!

You ain't laughing, sport.
.

User: "Mark Fox"
Title: Re: NeoCon Liying Scum of the Day: Mark "Faux News" Fox (GOP, The Party fo Lies)	19 Dec 2005 07:44:34 PM

Del wrote:

Mark Fox wrote:

Del wrote:

Mark Fox wrote:

Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:

BWAHAHAHA, Another NeoCon making ***** up? Let look at the tale of the
tape shall we?

[...]

FACT: Reces sion happened under AWOL (www.nber.org)

Bzzzzt:

The Recession started two months before Clinton left office.

Is the White House good enough for you?

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/12/20011201.html

Now that you have the smoking gun, I'm sure you will
feel honor bound to retract your accusations about "liars"
and such, right?

Now that you have posted your source we can see what the President
really said and don't have to rely on your lies:
THE PRESIDENT: "Good morning. This week, the official announcement
came that our economy has been in recession since March...The long
economic expansion that ...began to slow last year. Many economists
warned me when I took office that a recession was beginning...."
So now its more than clear that you are simply a despicable a liar who
tries to hide your sources to conceal your lies.

Poor partisan liar Fox must ignore this and also ignore
the recognized arbiter of the start and end of recessions,

Gosh, it the time of one post you have leaped from hiding your sources
and your facts to claiming that I am trying to ignore them. LOL!! You
must have studied at the Howard Dean school of lying and twisting and
short memories.

The jobs data graph shown previously clearly shows job growth beginning
its decline starting June 2000

The jobs clearly started to slow down in June of 2000. You are the one
who is over his head.

and yet you run around in circles
playing little games to try and pretend there was no problem until
almost a year later. You are such a pathetic liar.

Tisk, tisk. Attacking the messenger when you don't
like (and can't refute) the message.

I always attack messengers who lie. You can count on it.

Don't you think
it's obvious when you ignore the smoking gun
evidence and attack me instead? And rather
emotionally immature too.

You are a liar and a fraud. go crawl back under your rock.

It is obviously pointless to provide you with any evidence.
The only reason you demand it is to try to postpone
the inevitable.

I demand it to show that liars such as you are indeed lying about the
facts whose sources they keep hidden.

The titanic made the turn toward the iceburg in June 2000 and you want
to argue about the arrangement of the deck chairs until the next March.

Your self serving straw man/ false analogy looks
suspiciously like you running in circles and playing
little games when you can't refute the evidence.

LOL!!

You ain't laughing, sport.

Actually.... I have fallen off the chair from laughter. Now that you
have finally posted your source and are shown to be a bald faced liar,
everyone else is laughing at you as well.
.

User: "Del"
Title: Re: NeoCon Liying Scum of the Day: Mark "Faux News" Fox (GOP, The Party fo Lies)	20 Dec 2005 08:22:31 AM

Mark Fox wrote:

Del wrote:

Mark Fox wrote:

Del wrote:

Mark Fox wrote:

Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:

BWAHAHAHA, Another NeoCon making ***** up? Let look at the tale of the
tape shall we?

[...]

FACT: Reces sion happened under AWOL (www.nber.org)

Bzzzzt:

The Recession started two months before Clinton left office.

LOL! you think we wil l just believe this because you stuck quotes
around it and stuck GWB behind it?

LOL! Do you believe it now?

Where did you get this?

I told you where I got it dufus. From his radio address, 11/01
Where is

the link, moron?

Oh dear. Since you didn't offer a link for your claim
that I was responding to:
"Bush has added back 4.5 million jobs lost due to the Clinton
recession."
I didn't offer one either--though I certainly did cite my source--
something you didn't bother to do. You will have to warn
me if you expect debate affirmative action. Or am I a moron
for not just assuming that your ilk always need special
exemption from providing the same thing you expect of
me?

Why are you liberal liars so quick to throw out vague
claims but are always afraid to show where you got it??

Is the White House good enough for you?

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/12/20011201.html

Now that you have the smoking gun, I'm sure you will
feel honor bound to retract your accusations about "liars"
and such, right?

Now that you have posted your source

Excuse me? I cited my source when I posted the quote:
GWB Radio address, November 2001. That is a cite,
bubba. When or if you ever get to college you'll learn
all about that.

we can see what the President
really said

Yes, he really said the recession started in March 2001,
confirming what I told you on the 16th:
"Sorry. The recession begain in March 2001. -- National
Bureau of Economic Research."
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/2e7a7c2439b7d304?dmode=source&hl=en

and don't have to rely on your lies:

My "lies"? (so much for being "honor bound") Oh
dear. Let's see. I said:
"The recession begain in March 2001. -- National
Bureau of Economic Research."
I said Bush said the same thing. And I told you where he
said it -- his weekly radio address--and I told you when--11/01.
You are now infuriated because I proved you wrong and
you can't admit to being wrong. Like I said: work on
that attitude problem.

THE PRESIDENT: "Good morning. This week, the official announcement
came that our economy has been in recession since March...The long
economic expansion that ...began to slow last year. Many economists
warned me when I took office that a recession was beginning...."

So now its more than clear that you are simply a despicable a liar

I'm sorry that you are so upset. But you can't change the
truth in to lies, Bubba: 1984 was 21 years ago.
"The recession begain in March" is not the lie here, Mark.
"The Recession started two months before Clinton left
office" is.
Get it? Or as you put it, this is the "despicable" lie.
So who was it who said "The Recession started two
months before Clinton left office"? Do you remember?

who
tries to hide your sources to conceal your lies.

Yeah, that's true. I knew you'd never think of checking
whitehouse dot gov for a quote that I cited as being
from the President's radio address in November, 2001. I
forgot about that debate affirmative action thing.
Oh wait a second! You're the one who lied. Boy
you had me goin' there! It was _your_ lie but you just
can't admit it. You are infuriated that I proved
with Bush's own words that you lied.
Let this be a learning experience for you.

Poor partisan liar Fox must ignore this and also ignore
the recognized arbiter of the start and end of recessions,

Gosh, it the time of one post you have leaped from hiding your sources
and your facts to claiming that I am trying to ignore them.

More Orwellian cant from Mark. Citing your sources--
the National Bureau of Economic Research, Bush radio
address--is really "hiding" them.

LOL!! You
must have studied at the Howard Dean school of lying and twisting and
short memories.

You can pretend to be serious, Mark, but you can't
pretend to be clever. Don't try to fake it. It's
embarrassing.

The jobs data graph shown previously clearly shows job growth beginning
its decline starting June 2000

The jobs clearly started to slow down in June of 2000.

And since you can't refute what I said--because it is true--you
just mindlessly repeat your non-sequitur. The issue you raised
was the start of the recession, not the end of job _growth_.
You now wish to redefine what the word "recession" means,
apparently, so you won't have to admit you were wrong
about when you claimed it started. Please continue to
stonewall, Mark. It makes you look ridiculous.

You are the one who is over his head.

LOL! I'll be happy to let readers decide this one for
themselves.

and yet you run around in circles
playing little games to try and pretend there was no problem until
almost a year later. You are such a pathetic liar.

Tisk, tisk. Attacking the messenger when you don't
like (and can't refute) the message.

I always attack messengers who lie. You can count on it.

You mean you lack the maturity to admit it when you lie
so you falsely accuse others of what you are guilty of. It is
no coincidence that you've _never_ quoted any lie of mine,
Mark, but I've quoted yours. Want to see it again? Here you
go:
"The Recession started two months before Clinton left office"
As we've seen, you toss out smoke screens about the start
of declining job growth, of all things, and pretending that
is the start of a recession. But you've been caught and
you don't like it one little bit, do ya?
[...]
.

User: "Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass"
Title: Re: NeoCon Liying Scum of the Day: Mark "Faux News" Fox (GOP, The Party fo Lies)	17 Dec 2005 03:34:38 PM

On 17 Dec 2005 09:25:28 -0800, "Mark Fox" <mark_fox_@yahoo.com> wrote:

Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:

BWAHAHAHA, Another NeoCon making ***** up? Let look at the tale of the
tape shall we?

On 16 Dec 2005 00:14:39 -0800, "Mark Fox" <mark_fox_@yahoo.com> wrote:

Yang, AthD ...Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:

Tink wrote:

Yang, AthD ...Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:

The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening

Bush's debt is less per GDP than it was under Clinton.

BZZZZ:

Clinton's Net Debt per GDP
16%
Clinton's Gross Debt per GDP
58%
AWOL's Net Debt per GDP
20%
AWOL's Gross Debt per GDP
63%

Bzzz. The FACT says that the US debt as % of GDP is LOWER Under
Clinton in 2000 (35.1%) than AWOL in 2004 (36.6%). It took a while for
Clinton to whittle down Raygun and Bush I's national debt, only to
have AWOL ***** em up again. Moron.

FACT: Recession happened under AWOL (www.nber.org)

Bzzzzt:

The Recession started two months before Clinton left office.

Bzzz. The Recession began 3 Months AFTER AWOL took office.
http://www.nber.org/cycles/cyclesmain.html

Net Job Created Under Clinton
23 MILLION
Net Job Created Under AWOL
1.8 MILLION
Conclusion: Doing what Neocons so best, Mark Fox makes ***** up,

Mark Fox simply posts government data from government web sites. He
includes the links for all to check. You are the one with the potty
mouth making up fake stories and not providing any sources for you
stupid claims.

Bzz. Mark Fox simply makes ***** up. The BLS specifically do not use
the aggregate numbers because the totals are not simply readjustements
to 2000 Census and are not indicators of job growths, which is why it
uses CHANGES in NFE jobs

Read 'em and weep, *****.
http://data.bls.gov/PDQ/servlet/SurveyOutputServlet?data_tool=latest_numbers&series_id=CES0000000001&output_view=net_1mth
Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual
1995 321 211 220 163 -9 227 71 278 239 149 144 140
1996 -18 435 255 165 329 271 228 203 218 238 292 177
1997 229 294 317 291 262 246 276 -7 506 339 307 298
1998 268 185 148 278 401 205 121 355 221 192 285 344
1999 113 396 124 382 214 257 295 193 187 422 295 294
2000 245 120 476 285 220 -43 176 -11 118 -12 216 158
2001 -30 92 -35 -297 -27 -158 -88 -138 -254 -377 -293 -174
2002 -124 -103 -37 -106 -9 51 -100 18 -45 59 6 -154
2003 86 -122 -218 -54 -26 27 3 2 94 123 96 83
2004 117 94 320 337 250 106 83 188 130 282 132 155
2005 124 300 122 292 126 175 277 148 17 44(p) 215(p)
-----
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec (aka

aka Yang's little poltregeist *****)
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2151 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
-----
"Now, did I want to go? Hell no."
-duke (duckgumbo32@cox.net), aka PedophilEarl J Weber, 63
year old mateless, heirless biological failure
of Afton Oaks Apartment, Baton Rouge, on why
a Neocon chickenhawk like him pussied out of
the Vietnam War.
.

User: "Mark Fox"
Title: Re: NeoCon Liying Scum of the Day: Mark "Faux News" Fox (GOP, The Party fo Lies)	17 Dec 2005 04:14:45 PM

Yang, AthD ...Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:

"Mark Fox" <mark_fox_@yahoo.com> wrote:

That is such a large bunch of stupid irrelevant nonsense.

Read 'em and weep, *****.

You are such an idiot. Do you even know how to read the data you
posted?
If you look at the graph YOU POSTED it shows jobs beginning to free
fall starting February 2000 a full year before Clinton left office.
The numbers went negative for the first time in June 2000 and stayed
negative in January 2001 right as Bill Clinton was wiping up his semen
stains and leaving the White House for good.
You need to face the fact that Bill Clinton ran away from the white
house and left George Bush to clean up the economy and the rampant
terrorist infestation that Clinton let into the country because he was
too busy screwing monica and not defending America.

http://data.bls.gov/PDQ/servlet/SurveyOutputServlet?data_tool=latest_numbers&series_id=CES0000000001&output_view=net_1mth

Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual
1995 321 211 220 163 -9 227 71 278 239 149 144 140
1996 -18 435 255 165 329 271 228 203 218 238 292 177
1997 229 294 317 291 262 246 276 -7 506 339 307 298
1998 268 185 148 278 401 205 121 355 221 192 285 344
1999 113 396 124 382 214 257 295 193 187 422 295 294
2000 245 120 476 285 220 -43 176 -11 118 -12 216 158
2001 -30 92 -35 -297 -27 -158 -88 -138 -254 -377 -293 -174
2002 -124 -103 -37 -106 -9 51 -100 18 -45 59 6 -154
2003 86 -122 -218 -54 -26 27 3 2 94 123 96 83
2004 117 94 320 337 250 106 83 188 130 282 132 155
2005 124 300 122 292 126 175 277 148 17 44(p) 215(p)

User: "Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass"
Title: Re: NeoCon Liying Scum of the Day: Mark "Faux News" Fox (GOP, The Party fo Lies)	17 Dec 2005 05:15:21 PM

On 17 Dec 2005 14:14:45 -0800, "Mark Fox" <mark_fox_@yahoo.com> wrote:

Yang, AthD ...Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:

"Mark Fox" <mark_fox_@yahoo.com> wrote:

That is such a large bunch of stupid irrelevant nonsense.

Bzzz, since you're such a fucking moron, I will print you the BLS's
OWN CAVEAT
"1 : Data affected by changes in population controls in January 2000,
January 2003, January 2004, and January 2005."
That's why the BLS has a separate JOB CHANGES DATA you fucking moron.

Read 'em and weep, *****.

Bzzz. Looks like moron failed math again. Here's the table
Read 'em and weep, *****.
http://data.bls.gov/PDQ/servlet/SurveyOutputServlet?data_tool=latest_numbers&series_id=CES0000000001&output_view=net_1mth
Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual
1995 321 211 220 163 -9 227 71 278 239 149 144 140
1996 -18 435 255 165 329 271 228 203 218 238 292 177
1997 229 294 317 291 262 246 276 -7 506 339 307 298
1998 268 185 148 278 401 205 121 355 221 192 285 344
1999 113 396 124 382 214 257 295 193 187 422 295 294
2000 245 120 476 285 220 -43 176 -11 118 -12 216 158
2001 -30 92 -35 -297 -27 -158 -88 -138 -254 -377 -293 -174
2002 -124 -103 -37 -106 -9 51 -100 18 -45 59 6 -154
2003 86 -122 -218 -54 -26 27 3 2 94 123 96 83
2004 117 94 320 337 250 106 83 188 130 282 132 155
2005 124 300 122 292 126 175 277 148 17 44(p) 215(p)

The numbers went negative for the first time in June 2000 and stayed
negative in January 2001 right as Bill Clinton was wiping up his semen
stains and leaving the White House for good.

Do you know how to fucking read? Employement did not "stay negative"
after 6/2000. There were FOUR POSITIVE Months you moron. Now look at
2001, AWOL's year, there were all of ONE positive Month!

You need to face the fact that Bill Clinton ran away from the white
house and left George Bush to clean up the economy and the rampant
terrorist infestation that Clinton let into the country because he was
too busy screwing monica and not defending America.

You need to face the fact that AWOL fucked up the economy as well as
the surplus left to him by CLINTON.

-----
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec (aka

aka Yang's little poltregeist *****)
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2151 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
-----
"Now, did I want to go? Hell no."
-duke (duckgumbo32@cox.net), aka PedophilEarl J Weber, 63
year old mateless, heirless biological failure
of Afton Oaks Apartment, Baton Rouge, on why
a Neocon chickenhawk like him pussied out of
the Vietnam War.
.

User: "Mark Fox"
Title: Re: NeoCon Liying Scum of the Day: Mark "Faux News" Fox (GOP, The Party fo Lies)	17 Dec 2005 10:15:22 PM

Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:

On 17 Dec 2005 14:14:45 -0800, "Mark Fox" <mark_fox_@yahoo.com> wrote:

Yang, AthD ...Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:

"Mark Fox" <mark_fox_@yahoo.com> wrote:

That is such a large bunch of stupid irrelevant nonsense.

Bzzz, since you're such a fucking moron, I will print you the BLS's
OWN CAVEAT

"1 : Data affected by changes in population controls in January 2000,
January 2003, January 2004, and January 2005."

That's why the BLS has a separate JOB CHANGES DATA you fucking moron.

Read 'em and weep, *****.

Bzzz. Looks like moron failed math again. Here's the table

Read 'em and weep, *****.

http://data.bls.gov/PDQ/servlet/SurveyOutputServlet?data_tool=latest_numbers&series_id=CES0000000001&output_view=net_1mth

Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual
1995 321 211 220 163 -9 227 71 278 239 149 144 140
1996 -18 435 255 165 329 271 228 203 218 238 292 177
1997 229 294 317 291 262 246 276 -7 506 339 307 298
1998 268 185 148 278 401 205 121 355 221 192 285 344
1999 113 396 124 382 214 257 295 193 187 422 295 294
2000 245 120 476 285 220 -43 176 -11 118 -12 216 158
2001 -30 92 -35 -297 -27 -158 -88 -138 -254 -377 -293 -174
2002 -124 -103 -37 -106 -9 51 -100 18 -45 59 6 -154
2003 86 -122 -218 -54 -26 27 3 2 94 123 96 83
2004 117 94 320 337 250 106 83 188 130 282 132 155
2005 124 300 122 292 126 175 277 148 17 44(p) 215(p)

The numbers went negative for the first time in June 2000 and stayed
negative in January 2001 right as Bill Clinton was wiping up his semen
stains and leaving the White House for good.

Do you know how to fucking read?

Yes, but its clear that you don't.

Employement did not "stay negative" after 6/2000.

Never said it did, moron.

There were FOUR POSITIVE Months you moron.

Yes, after the negative month of June 2000 during clinton's presidency,
moron.

Now look at
2001, AWOL's year, there were all of ONE positive Month!

That's what I said, moron. Learn to read english.

You need to face the fact that AWOL fucked up the economy as well as
the surplus left to him by CLINTON.

The jobs went negative beginning 7 months before clinton left office
according to the data you posted, moron. Its clear to any sane person
that the recession began in the last year of the Clinton presidency.
You are such an ignorant moron.
.

User: "Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass"
Title: Re: NeoCon Liying Scum of the Day: Mark "Faux News" Fox (GOP, The Party fo Lies)	18 Dec 2005 02:39:55 AM

On 17 Dec 2005 20:15:22 -0800, "Mark Fox" <mark_fox_@yahoo.com> wrote:

Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:

On 17 Dec 2005 14:14:45 -0800, "Mark Fox" <mark_fox_@yahoo.com> wrote:

Yang, AthD ...Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:

"Mark Fox" <mark_fox_@yahoo.com> wrote:

That is such a large bunch of stupid irrelevant nonsense.

Bzzz, since you're such a fucking moron, I will print you the BLS's
OWN CAVEAT

"1 : Data affected by changes in population controls in January 2000,
January 2003, January 2004, and January 2005."

That's why the BLS has a separate JOB CHANGES DATA you fucking moron.

Read 'em and weep, *****.

Bzzz. Looks like moron failed math again. Here's the table

Read 'em and weep, *****.

http://data.bls.gov/PDQ/servlet/SurveyOutputServlet?data_tool=latest_numbers&series_id=CES0000000001&output_view=net_1mth

Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual
1995 321 211 220 163 -9 227 71 278 239 149 144 140
1996 -18 435 255 165 329 271 228 203 218 238 292 177
1997 229 294 317 291 262 246 276 -7 506 339 307 298
1998 268 185 148 278 401 205 121 355 221 192 285 344
1999 113 396 124 382 214 257 295 193 187 422 295 294
2000 245 120 476 285 220 -43 176 -11 118 -12 216 158
2001 -30 92 -35 -297 -27 -158 -88 -138 -254 -377 -293 -174
2002 -124 -103 -37 -106 -9 51 -100 18 -45 59 6 -154
2003 86 -122 -218 -54 -26 27 3 2 94 123 96 83
2004 117 94 320 337 250 106 83 188 130 282 132 155
2005 124 300 122 292 126 175 277 148 17 44(p) 215(p)

The numbers went negative for the first time in June 2000 and stayed
negative in January 2001 right as Bill Clinton was wiping up his semen
stains and leaving the White House for good.

Do you know how to fucking read?

Yes, but its clear that you don't.

Employement did not "stay negative" after 6/2000.

Never said it did, moron.

I get it, in other words you're a fucking piesce of ***** who fucking
lies. The job propect was more or less POSITIVE THROUGHOUT 2000
and even ran apositive in February 2001 and did not go bad until 3
MONTHS INTO AWOL's turn and it's somehow Clinton's fault.

There were FOUR POSITIVE Months you moron.

Yes, after the negative month of June 2000 during clinton's presidency,
moron.

Yes, making it more successful than any of AWOL's stretch for teh next
3 years, you fucking NeoCon liar.

You need to face the fact that AWOL fucked up the economy as well as
the surplus left to him by CLINTON.

Bzzz.
Here's a clue you fucking dipshit. One negative Month DOES NOT A
RECESSION MAKE. This is why unlike you dipshit morons, the NBER did
not designate 6/2000 as the "beginning of the recession". SUSTAINED
MULTI-MONTH HAPPENED UNDER AWOL.
Read that and weep, *****.
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a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec (aka

aka Yang's little poltregeist *****)
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2151 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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"Now, did I want to go? Hell no."
-duke (duckgumbo32@cox.net), aka PedophilEarl J Weber, 63
year old mateless, heirless biological failure
of Afton Oaks Apartment, Baton Rouge, on why
a Neocon chickenhawk like him pussied out of
the Vietnam War.
.

User: "Mark Fox"
Title: Re: NeoCon Liying Scum of the Day: Mark "Faux News" Fox (GOP, The Party fo Lies)	18 Dec 2005 07:44:52 AM

Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:

On 17 Dec 2005 20:15:22 -0800, "Mark Fox" <mark_fox_@yahoo.com> wrote:

Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:

On 17 Dec 2005 14:14:45 -0800, "Mark Fox" <mark_fox_@yahoo.com> wrote:

Yang, AthD ...Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:

"Mark Fox" <mark_fox_@yahoo.com> wrote:

That is such a large bunch of stupid irrelevant nonsense.

Bzzz, since you're such a fucking moron, I will print you the BLS's
OWN CAVEAT

"1 : Data affected by changes in population controls in January 2000,
January 2003, January 2004, and January 2005."

That's why the BLS has a separate JOB CHANGES DATA you fucking moron.

Read 'em and weep, *****.