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Religions > Atheism |
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"Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass" |
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14 Dec 2005 12:56:59 AM |
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Conservatives Try to Overturn the 14th Amendment |
Going from The Party of Lincoln to the Party of Lincoln's Killer, eh?
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/constitution/amendment14/
"Section. 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States and
subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States
and of the State wherein they reside."
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Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec (aka aka Yang's little poltregeist *****)
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2145 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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"Now, did I want to go? Hell no."
-duke (duckgumbo32@cox.net), aka PedophilEarl J Weber, 63
year old mateless, heirless biological failure
of Afton Oaks Apartment, Baton Rouge, on why
a Neocon chickenhawk like him pussied out of
the Vietnam War.
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| User: "Captain Compassion" |
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| Title: Re: Conservatives Try to Overturn the 14th Amendment |
14 Dec 2005 10:54:32 AM |
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On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 22:56:59 -0800, "Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's
Cocaine Snorting *****" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:
Going from The Party of Lincoln to the Party of Lincoln's Killer, eh?
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/constitution/amendment14/
"Section. 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States and
subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States
and of the State wherein they reside."
I agree. If this is to be changed then an amendment is needed.
--
"The president and I cannot prevent certain politicians from losing
their memory, or their backbone, but we're not going to sit by and
let them rewrite history." -- ***** Cheney 11/16/2005
"War is God's way of teaching Americans geography" -- Ambrose Bierce
"America is a vast conspiracy to make you happy." -- John Updike
"Long term commitment in relationships is only necessary because it takes
so damn long to raise children. Marriage may well be some kind of trick
to keep the males around beyond sexual satiation." -- Captain Compassion
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net
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| User: "Tink" |
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| Title: Re: Conservatives Try to Overturn the 14th Amendment |
15 Dec 2005 01:09:44 PM |
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Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
Going from The Party of Lincoln to the Party of Lincoln's Killer, eh?
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/constitution/amendment14/
"Section. 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States and
subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States
and of the State wherein they reside."
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Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec (aka aka Yang's little poltregeist *****)
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2145 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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"Now, did I want to go? Hell no."
-duke (duckgumbo32@cox.net), aka PedophilEarl J Weber, 63
year old mateless, heirless biological failure
of Afton Oaks Apartment, Baton Rouge, on why
a Neocon chickenhawk like him pussied out of
the Vietnam War.
OK, what are they trying to undermine? Your post doesn't say.
--
Skydivers don't knock on death's door; they ring the bell and run
away... It really pisses him off.
The World Famous Tink. (I never heard of you either!!)
AA #2069 ASA#33 POPS# 8808
EAC Chairman, Division of Skydiving and Sushi consumption.
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| User: "Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass" |
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| Title: Re: Conservatives Try to Overturn the 14th Amendment |
16 Dec 2005 01:53:09 AM |
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On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 14:09:44 -0500, Tink
<kjgrish@comcast.net.spamno.ccom> wrote:
Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
Going from The Party of Lincoln to the Party of Lincoln's Killer, eh?
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/constitution/amendment14/
"Section. 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States and
subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States
and of the State wherein they reside."
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Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec (aka aka Yang's little poltregeist *****)
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2145 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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"Now, did I want to go? Hell no."
-duke (duckgumbo32@cox.net), aka PedophilEarl J Weber, 63
year old mateless, heirless biological failure
of Afton Oaks Apartment, Baton Rouge, on why
a Neocon chickenhawk like him pussied out of
the Vietnam War.
OK, what are they trying to undermine? Your post doesn't say.
They're trying to overturn the law that anyone born in the US is a US
citizen.
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Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec (aka aka Yang's little poltregeist *****)
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2151 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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"Now, did I want to go? Hell no."
-duke (duckgumbo32@cox.net), aka PedophilEarl J Weber, 63
year old mateless, heirless biological failure
of Afton Oaks Apartment, Baton Rouge, on why
a Neocon chickenhawk like him pussied out of
the Vietnam War.
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| User: "Mark Fox" |
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| Title: Re: Conservatives Try to Overturn the 14th Amendment and other reasons why Yang is a complete idiot |
16 Dec 2005 02:14:39 AM |
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Yang, AthD ...Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
Tink wrote:
Yang, AthD ...Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
Bush's debt is less per GDP than it was under Clinton.
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
Bush has added back 4.5 million jobs lost due to the Clinton recession.
The Bush Iraq lie: -2145 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Saddam is in jail and Osama is on the run. Iraq has an approved
Constitution and just voted for a permanent government. Because of
Bush, 50 million people are now selecting their government leaders who
could not under Clinton. Purple fingers are everywhere. No more semen
stained dresses and accusations of rape against Bill Clinton.
Also because of George Bush, the Growth of the economy is up to a
staggering and unexpected 4.3 percent while interest rates and
inflation are way down. Also, home ownership is the highest ever in
the USA.
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
Having you spew stupid liberal lies on the internet instead of leading
a productive and honest life?? Typical!!
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OK, what are they trying to undermine? Your post doesn't say.
They're trying to overturn the law that anyone born in the US is a US
citizen.
That is so aliens can't sneak across the border have a child and claim
citizenship. The new rule will be that at least one of the parents
must be an American citizen for the child to be an American citizen.
Seems perfectly reasonable to me.
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| User: "serwad" |
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| Title: Re: Conservatives Try to Overturn the 14th Amendment and other reasons why Yang is a complete idiot |
16 Dec 2005 09:06:00 AM |
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"Mark Fox" <mark_fox_@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1134720878.967219.245140@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
Yang, AthD ...Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
Tink wrote:
Yang, AthD ...Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
Bush's debt is less per GDP than it was under Clinton.
IS THAT WHY U.S. DOLLAR IS NOW WORTH ALMOST HALF WHAT IT WAS WORTH UNDER
CLINTON?
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| User: "Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass" |
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| Title: NeoCon Liying Scum of the Day: Mark "Faux News" Fox (GOP, The Party fo Lies) |
17 Dec 2005 10:30:15 AM |
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BWAHAHAHA, Another NeoCon making ***** up? Let look at the tale of the
tape shall we?
On 16 Dec 2005 00:14:39 -0800, "Mark Fox" <mark_fox_@yahoo.com> wrote:
Yang, AthD ...Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
Tink wrote:
Yang, AthD ...Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
Bush's debt is less per GDP than it was under Clinton.
BZZZZ:
Clinton's Net Debt per GDP
16%
Clinton's Gross Debt per GDP
58%
AWOL's Net Debt per GDP
20%
AWOL's Gross Debt per GDP
63%
Conclusion: Doing what Neocons so best, Mark Fox makes ***** up,
[see footnotes for details]
Bush has added back 4.5 million jobs lost due to the Clinton recession.
BZZZ:
FACT: Recession happened under AWOL (www.nber.org)
Net Job Created Under Clinton
23 MILLION
Net Job Created Under AWOL
1.8 MILLION
Conclusion: Doing what Neocons so best, Mark Fox makes ***** up,
[see footnotes for details]
FootNotes:
Total Debt Under Clinton
09/29/2000 $5,674,178,209,886.86
Net Debt Under Clinton
$1,609,557,554,365.20
GDP Under Clinton
Nom/Real
2000q3 9,862.1
9,836.6
Total Debt Under AWOL
09/30/2005 $7,932,709,661,723.50
Net Debt Under AWOL
$2,258,531,451,836.64
GDP Under AWOL
Nom/Real
2005q3 12,601.0
11,206.1
Sources
Bureau of The Public Debt
http://www.publicdebt.treas.gov/opd/opdpenny.htm
Bureau of Ecnomic Analysis
http://www.bea.doc.gov/bea/dn/gdplev.xls
Bureau of Labor Statistcs
http://data.bls.gov/PDQ/servlet/SurveyOutputServlet?data_tool=latest_numbers&series_id=CES0000000001&output_view=net_1mth
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Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec (aka aka Yang's little poltregeist *****)
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2151 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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"Now, did I want to go? Hell no."
-duke (duckgumbo32@cox.net), aka PedophilEarl J Weber, 63
year old mateless, heirless biological failure
of Afton Oaks Apartment, Baton Rouge, on why
a Neocon chickenhawk like him pussied out of
the Vietnam War.
.
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| User: "Mark Fox" |
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| Title: Re: NeoCon Liying Scum of the Day: Mark "Faux News" Fox (GOP, The Party fo Lies) |
17 Dec 2005 11:25:28 AM |
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Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
BWAHAHAHA, Another NeoCon making ***** up? Let look at the tale of the
tape shall we?
On 16 Dec 2005 00:14:39 -0800, "Mark Fox" <mark_fox_@yahoo.com> wrote:
Yang, AthD ...Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
Tink wrote:
Yang, AthD ...Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
Bush's debt is less per GDP than it was under Clinton.
BZZZZ:
Clinton's Net Debt per GDP
16%
Clinton's Gross Debt per GDP
58%
AWOL's Net Debt per GDP
20%
AWOL's Gross Debt per GDP
63%
Bzzzzt:
Here are the facts
Year US debt held by the public as a percentage of GDP
------ --------------------
1993 49.4 Clinton takes office.
1994 49.3
1995 49.2
1996 48.5
1997 46.1
1998 43.1
1999 39.8
2000 35.1
2001 33.1 George W. Bush takes office
2002 34.1
2003 36.1
2004 36.6
This data was specifically on the table found at:
http://frwebgate2.access.gpo.gov/
As you can clearly see, Clinton spent most of his "dress staining" days
with a federal debt percentage running in the forties and high
thirties. Bush's debt percentage is in the low to mid thirties.
Bush has added back 4.5 million jobs lost due to the Clinton recession.
BZZZ:
FACT: Recession happened under AWOL (www.nber.org)
Bzzzzt:
The Recession started two months before Clinton left office.
Net Job Created Under Clinton
23 MILLION
Net Job Created Under AWOL
1.8 MILLION
Conclusion: Doing what Neocons so best, Mark Fox makes ***** up,
Mark Fox simply posts government data from government web sites. He
includes the links for all to check. You are the one with the potty
mouth making up fake stories and not providing any sources for you
stupid claims.
Here are the employment totals from the Bureau of Labor Statistics:
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Year Annual
1995 124.900 Million workers
1996 126.708
1997 129.558
1998 131.463
1999 133.488
2000 136.891
2001 136.933
2002 136.485
2003 137.736
2004 139.252
2005 142.968
Job growth of Bush's term in office is 142,968,000 - 136,933,000 = 6
million new jobs created by Bush since Clinton was impeached.
This data was found at:
http://www.bls.gov/webapps/legacy/cpsatab6.htm
under "Total, 16 years and over"
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: NeoCon Liying Scum of the Day: Mark "Faux News" Fox (GOP, The Party fo Lies) |
17 Dec 2005 04:40:16 PM |
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Mark Fox wrote:
Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
BWAHAHAHA, Another NeoCon making ***** up? Let look at the tale of the
tape shall we?
On 16 Dec 2005 00:14:39 -0800, "Mark Fox" <mark_fox_@yahoo.com> wrote:
Yang, AthD ...Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
Tink wrote:
Yang, AthD ...Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
Bush's debt is less per GDP than it was under Clinton.
BZZZZ:
Clinton's Net Debt per GDP
16%
Clinton's Gross Debt per GDP
58%
AWOL's Net Debt per GDP
20%
AWOL's Gross Debt per GDP
63%
Bzzzzt:
Here are the facts
Year US debt held by the public as a percentage of GDP
------ --------------------
1993 49.4 Clinton takes office.
1994 49.3
1995 49.2
1996 48.5
1997 46.1
1998 43.1
1999 39.8
2000 35.1
2001 33.1 George W. Bush takes office
2002 34.1
2003 36.1
2004 36.6
This data was specifically on the table found at:
http://frwebgate2.access.gpo.gov/
As you can clearly see, Clinton spent most of his "dress staining" days
with a federal debt percentage running in the forties and high
thirties. Bush's debt percentage is in the low to mid thirties.
Are you so stupid that you don't understand what these stats mean?
Clinton did a marvelous job to reduce Public debt as a % of GDP from
49.35 TO 33.1% and Bush in a few short years reversed that from 33.1%
to 36.6%.
Further evidence of the greatness of Clinton and the failure of Bush.
Bush has added back 4.5 million jobs lost due to the Clinton recession.
BZZZ:
FACT: Recession happened under AWOL (www.nber.org)
Bzzzzt:
The Recession started two months before Clinton left office.
Net Job Created Under Clinton
23 MILLION
Net Job Created Under AWOL
1.8 MILLION
Conclusion: Doing what Neocons so best, Mark Fox makes ***** up,
Mark Fox simply posts government data from government web sites. He
includes the links for all to check. You are the one with the potty
mouth making up fake stories and not providing any sources for you
stupid claims.
Here are the employment totals from the Bureau of Labor Statistics:
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Year Annual
1995 124.900 Million workers
1996 126.708
1997 129.558
1998 131.463
1999 133.488
2000 136.891
2001 136.933
2002 136.485
2003 137.736
2004 139.252
2005 142.968
Job growth of Bush's term in office is 142,968,000 - 136,933,000 = 6
million new jobs created by Bush since Clinton was impeached. Far more jobs were created under Clinton. Bush job creation record if very poor when compared to other post recession recoveries.
Another win for Clinton who created about 18 million jobs in his 2
terms.
This data was found at:
http://www.bls.gov/webapps/legacy/cpsatab6.htm
under "Total, 16 years and over"
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| User: "Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass" |
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| Title: Re: NeoCon Liying Scum of the Day: Mark "Faux News" Fox (GOP, The Party fo Lies) |
17 Dec 2005 05:16:27 PM |
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On 17 Dec 2005 14:40:16 -0800, wrote:
Mark Fox wrote:
Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
BWAHAHAHA, Another NeoCon making ***** up? Let look at the tale of the
tape shall we?
On 16 Dec 2005 00:14:39 -0800, "Mark Fox" <mark_fox_@yahoo.com> wrote:
Yang, AthD ...Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
Tink wrote:
Yang, AthD ...Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
Bush's debt is less per GDP than it was under Clinton.
BZZZZ:
Clinton's Net Debt per GDP
16%
Clinton's Gross Debt per GDP
58%
AWOL's Net Debt per GDP
20%
AWOL's Gross Debt per GDP
63%
Bzzzzt:
Here are the facts
Year US debt held by the public as a percentage of GDP
------ --------------------
1993 49.4 Clinton takes office.
1994 49.3
1995 49.2
1996 48.5
1997 46.1
1998 43.1
1999 39.8
2000 35.1
2001 33.1 George W. Bush takes office
2002 34.1
2003 36.1
2004 36.6
This data was specifically on the table found at:
http://frwebgate2.access.gpo.gov/
As you can clearly see, Clinton spent most of his "dress staining" days
with a federal debt percentage running in the forties and high
thirties. Bush's debt percentage is in the low to mid thirties.
Are you so stupid that you don't understand what these stats mean?
Clinton did a marvelous job to reduce Public debt as a % of GDP from
49.35 TO 33.1% and Bush in a few short years reversed that from 33.1%
to 36.6%.
Yes, he is that stupid.
He is afterall, a Bush bootlicker.
Further evidence of the greatness of Clinton and the failure of Bush.
Bush has added back 4.5 million jobs lost due to the Clinton recession.
BZZZ:
FACT: Recession happened under AWOL (www.nber.org)
Bzzzzt:
The Recession started two months before Clinton left office.
Net Job Created Under Clinton
23 MILLION
Net Job Created Under AWOL
1.8 MILLION
Conclusion: Doing what Neocons so best, Mark Fox makes ***** up,
Mark Fox simply posts government data from government web sites. He
includes the links for all to check. You are the one with the potty
mouth making up fake stories and not providing any sources for you
stupid claims.
Here are the employment totals from the Bureau of Labor Statistics:
---------------
Year Annual
1995 124.900 Million workers
1996 126.708
1997 129.558
1998 131.463
1999 133.488
2000 136.891
2001 136.933
2002 136.485
2003 137.736
2004 139.252
2005 142.968
Job growth of Bush's term in office is 142,968,000 - 136,933,000 = 6
million new jobs created by Bush since Clinton was impeached. Far more jobs were created under Clinton. Bush job creation record if very poor when compared to other post recession recoveries.
Another win for Clinton who created about 18 million jobs in his 2
terms.
This data was found at:
http://www.bls.gov/webapps/legacy/cpsatab6.htm
under "Total, 16 years and over"
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Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec (aka aka Yang's little poltregeist *****)
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2151 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
-----
"Now, did I want to go? Hell no."
-duke (duckgumbo32@cox.net), aka PedophilEarl J Weber, 63
year old mateless, heirless biological failure
of Afton Oaks Apartment, Baton Rouge, on why
a Neocon chickenhawk like him pussied out of
the Vietnam War.
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| User: "Mark Fox" |
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| Title: Re: NeoCon Liying Scum of the Day: Mark "Faux News" Fox (GOP, The Party fo Lies) |
18 Dec 2005 09:03:07 AM |
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Yang, AthD...Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
ausstu@primus.com.au wrote:
Mark Fox wrote:
Yang, AthD ...Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
"Mark Fox" <mark_fox_@yahoo.com> wrote:
Bush's debt is less per GDP than it was under Clinton.
Bzzzzt:
Here are the facts
Year US debt held by the public as a percentage of GDP
------ --------------------
1993 49.4 Clinton takes office.
1994 49.3
1995 49.2
1996 48.5
1997 46.1
1998 43.1
1999 39.8
2000 35.1
2001 33.1 George W. Bush takes office
2002 34.1
2003 36.1
2004 36.6
This data was specifically on the table found at:
http://frwebgate2.access.gpo.gov/
As you can clearly see, Clinton spent most of his "dress staining" days
with a federal debt percentage running in the forties and high
thirties. Bush's debt percentage is in the low to mid thirties.
Are you so stupid that you don't understand what these stats mean?
I'm fully aware of what they mean. If you bother to go back and look,
you will notice that I never addressed the issue of rising or falling
debt. I only stated the simple and correct fact that the level of debt
held by the public as a percentage of GDP is much smaller right now
under Bush than it was during many of the years under Clinton.
You libtards then proceeded to pop a vein and blow a gasket over stuff
I never said.
Just like Dan Rather's fake memos and Newsweeks fake stories, you
liberals fly off the handle and into orbit over many things that either
never happened or are faked by other liberals. Its all very funny to
watch.
I have been yanking your chain and you both have been dancing like
little circus dogs.
Given the shallowness of thinking by the libtards on this group, I
expected that this would happen and you have provided much
entertainment. Thanks!!
Clinton did a marvelous job to reduce Public debt as a % of GDP from
49.35 TO 33.1% and Bush in a few short years reversed that from 33.1%
to 36.6%.
This is true. I never said it wasn't.
But yet you still danced and sang for me. It was fun to watch.
Thanks. LOL!!
Yes, he is that stupid.
He is afterall, a Bush bootlicker.
You have to admit that I yanked your Yang (I mean chain) pretty well!
You are such a predictable imbecile - a useful idiot. Dance and sing
and yelp like a yappy little dog!! That's a good boy.
This is what I see when I listen to your yapping and snarling.
http://www.puppydogweb.com/caninebreeds/pomerani.htm
So long, and thanks for all the fish!! ROTFLMAO!!!
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| User: "Rev. Mercutio Jones" |
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| Title: Re: NeoCon Liying Scum of the Day: Mark "Faux News" Fox (GOP, The Party fo Lies) |
18 Dec 2005 10:07:58 AM |
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"Mark Fox" <mark_fox_@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1134918187.101749.224140@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
I only stated the simple and correct fact that the level of debt
held by the public as a percentage of GDP is much smaller right now
under Bush than it was during many of the years under Clinton.
It's a misleading statistic. What you need to consider is the level of debt
per capita, adjusted for current dollars vs. 199n (whatever years you want
to compare) dollars. That, to my way of thinking, would be a much more
informative way to look at it. You also need to consider that GDP
measurement methods and indicators don't vary between comparisons. Simply
showing the percentages have gone done isn't helpful unless one knows *what
exactly* they are based upon.
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Mercutio Jones
http://groups.msn.com/DayoftheSick
http://dayofthesick.oklahomapunkscene.com
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| User: "Mark Fox" |
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| Title: Re: NeoCon Liying Scum of the Day: Mark "Faux News" Fox (GOP, The Party fo Lies) |
19 Dec 2005 09:01:54 AM |
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Rev. Mercutio Jones wrote:
"Mark Fox" <mark_fox_@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1134918187.101749.224140@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
I only stated the simple and correct fact that the level of debt
held by the public as a percentage of GDP is much smaller right now
under Bush than it was during many of the years under Clinton.
It's a misleading statistic.
Its a raw basic fact. If liberal fools don't know the meaning of those
numbers than that's a problem with their education not a problem with
the data.
What you need to consider is the level of debt
per capita, adjusted for current dollars vs. 199n (whatever years you want
to compare) dollars.
Both of those factors are included in GDP.
That, to my way of thinking, would be a much more
informative way to look at it. You also need to consider that GDP
measurement methods and indicators don't vary between comparisons. Simply
showing the percentages have gone done isn't helpful unless one knows *what
exactly* they are based upon.
Debt held by the public as a precentage of GDP is simply based on
comparing the size of the debt with the ability to pay off that debt.
Simpletons can try to understand it by thinking about a car loan for a
family. The bigger household income one has the larger the car loan
then can afford and thus the more expensive care they can afford. If a
family has twice the income then they can afford twice the debt. If a
country has twice the GDP then it can afford twice the debt. Its really
rather simple.
Debt as a percentage of GDP is a good indicator to bring liberal idiots
back down to Earth after they run around screaming that the sky is
falling.
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| Title: Re: NeoCon Liying Scum of the Day: Mark "Faux News" Fox (GOP, TheParty fo Lies) |
19 Dec 2005 10:01:49 PM |
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in article 1135004514.469820.174500@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com, Mark Fox
at wrote on 12/19/05 10:01 AM:
Rev. Mercutio Jones wrote:
"Mark Fox" < > wrote in message
news:1134918187.101749.224140@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
I only stated the simple and correct fact that the level of debt
held by the public as a percentage of GDP is much smaller right now
under Bush than it was during many of the years under Clinton.
It's a misleading statistic.
Its a raw basic fact. If liberal fools don't know the meaning of those
numbers than that's a problem with their education not a problem with
the data.
What you need to consider is the level of debt
per capita, adjusted for current dollars vs. 199n (whatever years you want
to compare) dollars.
Both of those factors are included in GDP.
That, to my way of thinking, would be a much more
informative way to look at it. You also need to consider that GDP
measurement methods and indicators don't vary between comparisons. Simply
showing the percentages have gone done isn't helpful unless one knows *what
exactly* they are based upon.
Debt held by the public as a precentage of GDP is simply based on
comparing the size of the debt with the ability to pay off that debt.
Simpletons can try to understand it by thinking about a car loan for a
family. The bigger household income one has the larger the car loan
then can afford and thus the more expensive care they can afford. If a
family has twice the income then they can afford twice the debt. If a
country has twice the GDP then it can afford twice the debt. Its really
rather simple.
Which is why Mark spends like a drunken sailor...the more he grows
the GDP, the more debt America can take one--and both mean every American is
happy and fulfilled.
Paul
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18 Dec 2005 12:22:10 PM |
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On 18 Dec 2005 07:03:07 -0800, "Mark Fox" <mark_fox_@yahoo.com> wrote:
Year US debt held by the public as a percentage of GDP
------ --------------------
1993 49.4 Clinton takes office.
1994 49.3
1995 49.2
1996 48.5
1997 46.1
1998 43.1
1999 39.8
2000 35.1
2001 33.1 George W. Bush takes office
2002 34.1
2003 36.1
2004 36.6
This data was specifically on the table found at:
http://frwebgate2.access.gpo.gov/
As you can clearly see, Clinton spent most of his "dress staining" days
with a federal debt percentage running in the forties and high
thirties. Bush's debt percentage is in the low to mid thirties.
Are you so stupid that you don't understand what these stats mean?
I'm fully aware of what they mean. If you bother to go back and look,
you will notice that I never addressed the issue of rising or falling
debt.
In other words, you were lying. During most of the it's history, Enron
stocks were worth more than CostCo stocks. Therefore under your
dishonest comparison, you should buy Enron!
-----
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec (aka aka Yang's little poltregeist *****)
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2151 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
-----
"Now, did I want to go? Hell no."
-duke (duckgumbo32@cox.net), aka PedophilEarl J Weber, 63
year old mateless, heirless biological failure
of Afton Oaks Apartment, Baton Rouge, on why
a Neocon chickenhawk like him pussied out of
the Vietnam War.
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18 Dec 2005 10:53:01 AM |
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in article 1134918187.101749.224140@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com, Mark Fox
at wrote on 12/18/05 10:03 AM:
Yang, AthD...Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
ausstu@primus.com.au wrote:
Mark Fox wrote:
Yang, AthD ...Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
"Mark Fox" < > wrote:
Bush's debt is less per GDP than it was under Clinton.
Bzzzzt:
Here are the facts
Year US debt held by the public as a percentage of GDP
------ --------------------
1993 49.4 Clinton takes office.
1994 49.3
1995 49.2
1996 48.5
1997 46.1
1998 43.1
1999 39.8
2000 35.1
2001 33.1 George W. Bush takes office
2002 34.1
2003 36.1
2004 36.6
This data was specifically on the table found at:
http://frwebgate2.access.gpo.gov/
As you can clearly see, Clinton spent most of his "dress staining" days
with a federal debt percentage running in the forties and high
thirties. Bush's debt percentage is in the low to mid thirties.
Are you so stupid that you don't understand what these stats mean?
I'm fully aware of what they mean. If you bother to go back and look,
you will notice that I never addressed the issue of rising or falling
debt. I only stated the simple and correct fact that the level of debt
held by the public as a percentage of GDP is much smaller right now
under Bush than it was during many of the years under Clinton.
You libtards then proceeded to pop a vein and blow a gasket over stuff
I never said.
Just like Dan Rather's fake memos and Newsweeks fake stories, you
liberals fly off the handle and into orbit over many things that either
never happened or are faked by other liberals. Its all very funny to
watch.
I have been yanking your chain and you both have been dancing like
little circus dogs.
Given the shallowness of thinking by the libtards on this group, I
expected that this would happen and you have provided much
entertainment. Thanks!!
Clinton did a marvelous job to reduce Public debt as a % of GDP from
49.35 TO 33.1% and Bush in a few short years reversed that from 33.1%
to 36.6%.
This is true. I never said it wasn't.
But yet you still danced and sang for me. It was fun to watch.
Thanks. LOL!!
Does it make up for the money you never get?
Paul
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| Title: Re: NeoCon Liying Scum of the Day: Mark "Faux News" Fox (GOP, The Party fo Lies) |
18 Dec 2005 12:43:09 PM |
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Paul Duca wrote:
in article 1134918187.101749.224140@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com, Mark Fox
at wrote on 12/18/05 10:03 AM:
Yang, AthD...Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
ausstu@primus.com.au wrote:
Mark Fox wrote:
Yang, AthD ...Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
"Mark Fox" < > wrote:
Bush's debt is less per GDP than it was under Clinton.
Bzzzzt:
Here are the facts
Year US debt held by the public as a percentage of GDP
------ --------------------
1993 49.4 Clinton takes office.
1994 49.3
1995 49.2
1996 48.5
1997 46.1
1998 43.1
1999 39.8
2000 35.1
2001 33.1 George W. Bush takes office
2002 34.1
2003 36.1
2004 36.6
This data was specifically on the table found at:
http://frwebgate2.access.gpo.gov/
As you can clearly see, Clinton spent most of his "dress staining" days
with a federal debt percentage running in the forties and high
thirties. Bush's debt percentage is in the low to mid thirties.
Are you so stupid that you don't understand what these stats mean?
I'm fully aware of what they mean. If you bother to go back and look,
you will notice that I never addressed the issue of rising or falling
debt. I only stated the simple and correct fact that the level of debt
held by the public as a percentage of GDP is much smaller right now
under Bush than it was during many of the years under Clinton.
You libtards then proceeded to pop a vein and blow a gasket over stuff
I never said.
Just like Dan Rather's fake memos and Newsweeks fake stories, you
liberals fly off the handle and into orbit over many things that either
never happened or are faked by other liberals. Its all very funny to
watch.
I have been yanking your chain and you both have been dancing like
little circus dogs.
Given the shallowness of thinking by the libtards on this group, I
expected that this would happen and you have provided much
entertainment. Thanks!!
Clinton did a marvelous job to reduce Public debt as a % of GDP from
49.35 TO 33.1% and Bush in a few short years reversed that from 33.1%
to 36.6%.
This is true. I never said it wasn't.
But yet you still danced and sang for me. It was fun to watch.
Thanks. LOL!!
Does it make up for the money you never get?
Paul
Thanks to George Bush's tax cuts I could afford to go on an extra
vacation this year. I did my duty by quickly spending my tax reduction
thereby doing my part in stimulating the economy. Life is good in
America today.
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| Title: Re: NeoCon Liying Scum of the Day: Mark "Faux News" Fox (GOP, The Party fo Lies) |
18 Dec 2005 07:52:20 PM |
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On 18 Dec 2005 10:43:09 -0800, "Mark Fox" <> wrote:
Paul Duca wrote:
in article 1134918187.101749.224140@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com, Mark Fox
at wrote on 12/18/05 10:03 AM:
Yang, AthD...Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
ausstu@primus.com.au wrote:
Mark Fox wrote:
Yang, AthD ...Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
"Mark Fox" < > wrote:
Bush's debt is less per GDP than it was under Clinton.
Bzzzzt:
Here are the facts
Year US debt held by the public as a percentage of GDP
------ --------------------
1993 49.4 Clinton takes office.
1994 49.3
1995 49.2
1996 48.5
1997 46.1
1998 43.1
1999 39.8
2000 35.1
2001 33.1 George W. Bush takes office
2002 34.1
2003 36.1
2004 36.6
This data was specifically on the table found at:
http://frwebgate2.access.gpo.gov/
As you can clearly see, Clinton spent most of his "dress staining" days
with a federal debt percentage running in the forties and high
thirties. Bush's debt percentage is in the low to mid thirties.
Are you so stupid that you don't understand what these stats mean?
I'm fully aware of what they mean. If you bother to go back and look,
you will notice that I never addressed the issue of rising or falling
debt. I only stated the simple and correct fact that the level of debt
held by the public as a percentage of GDP is much smaller right now
under Bush than it was during many of the years under Clinton.
You libtards then proceeded to pop a vein and blow a gasket over stuff
I never said.
Just like Dan Rather's fake memos and Newsweeks fake stories, you
liberals fly off the handle and into orbit over many things that either
never happened or are faked by other liberals. Its all very funny to
watch.
I have been yanking your chain and you both have been dancing like
little circus dogs.
Given the shallowness of thinking by the libtards on this group, I
expected that this would happen and you have provided much
entertainment. Thanks!!
Clinton did a marvelous job to reduce Public debt as a % of GDP from
49.35 TO 33.1% and Bush in a few short years reversed that from 33.1%
to 36.6%.
This is true. I never said it wasn't.
But yet you still danced and sang for me. It was fun to watch.
Thanks. LOL!!
Does it make up for the money you never get?
Paul
Thanks to George Bush's tax cuts I could afford to go on an extra
vacation this year.
The resulting $1 TRILLION Debt being the burden of future generations.
GOP, the Party of Treason
-----
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec (aka aka Yang's little poltregeist *****)
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2151 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
-----
"Now, did I want to go? Hell no."
-duke (duckgumbo32@cox.net), aka PedophilEarl J Weber, 63
year old mateless, heirless biological failure
of Afton Oaks Apartment, Baton Rouge, on why
a Neocon chickenhawk like him pussied out of
the Vietnam War.
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18 Dec 2005 09:04:19 PM |
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Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
On 18 Dec 2005 10:43:09 -0800, "Mark Fox" < > wrote:
Paul Duca wrote:
in article 1134918187.101749.224140@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com, Mark Fox
at wrote on 12/18/05 10:03 AM:
Yang, AthD...Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
ausstu@primus.com.au wrote:
Mark Fox wrote:
Yang, AthD ...Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
"Mark Fox" < > wrote:
Bush's debt is less per GDP than it was under Clinton.
Bzzzzt:
Here are the facts
Year US debt held by the public as a percentage of GDP
------ --------------------
1993 49.4 Clinton takes office.
1994 49.3
1995 49.2
1996 48.5
1997 46.1
1998 43.1
1999 39.8
2000 35.1
2001 33.1 George W. Bush takes office
2002 34.1
2003 36.1
2004 36.6
This data was specifically on the table found at:
http://frwebgate2.access.gpo.gov/
As you can clearly see, Clinton spent most of his "dress staining" days
with a federal debt percentage running in the forties and high
thirties. Bush's debt percentage is in the low to mid thirties.
Are you so stupid that you don't understand what these stats mean?
I'm fully aware of what they mean. If you bother to go back and look,
you will notice that I never addressed the issue of rising or falling
debt. I only stated the simple and correct fact that the level of debt
held by the public as a percentage of GDP is much smaller right now
under Bush than it was during many of the years under Clinton.
You libtards then proceeded to pop a vein and blow a gasket over stuff
I never said.
Just like Dan Rather's fake memos and Newsweeks fake stories, you
liberals fly off the handle and into orbit over many things that either
never happened or are faked by other liberals. Its all very funny to
watch.
I have been yanking your chain and you both have been dancing like
little circus dogs.
Given the shallowness of thinking by the libtards on this group, I
expected that this would happen and you have provided much
entertainment. Thanks!!
Clinton did a marvelous job to reduce Public debt as a % of GDP from
49.35 TO 33.1% and Bush in a few short years reversed that from 33.1%
to 36.6%.
This is true. I never said it wasn't.
But yet you still danced and sang for me. It was fun to watch.
Thanks. LOL!!
Does it make up for the money you never get?
Paul
Thanks to George Bush's tax cuts I could afford to go on an extra
vacation this year.
The resulting $1 TRILLION Debt being the burden of future generations.
GOP, the Party of Treason
Cancel social security and the debt would soon be gone. You need to
face the fact that it is you who burdens future generations with your
ponsi scheme retirement plans. The social security system will tax
your grand children in order to pay you not to work. Is that what you
want??
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| Title: Re: NeoCon Liying Scum of the Day: Mark "Faux News" Fox (GOP, The Party fo Lies) |
19 Dec 2005 10:18:16 AM |
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Mark Fox wrote:
Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
On 18 Dec 2005 10:43:09 -0800, "Mark Fox" <mark_fox_@yahoo.com> wrote:
[...]
Thanks to George Bush's tax cuts I could afford to go on an extra
vacation this year.
The resu lting $1 TRILLION Debt being the burden of future generations.
GOP, the Party of Treason
Cancel social security and the debt would soon be gone.
LOL! Cancel military spending and the debt would be
gone. SS isn't a controllable dufus, even if that was the
problem which it ain't. Social Security taxes have been
running a surplus which Bush has been spending to
make the deficit look less horrendous.
And speaking of Social Security, guess which president
made the first sweeping increases in social security, both
increasing payments and extending coverage to millions
of people who were previously ineligible. Guess which
president made the second, even greater increase in Social
Security benefits--a 20% increase--and cost of living
increases, taking SS off the table in future budget
negotiations. Have any idea? Here you go:
Eisenhower
Nixon
What party did they belong to?
You need to
face the fact that it is you who burdens future generations with your
ponsi scheme retirement plans.
That's pretty funny given the facts I just informed you of.
I realize you wish to take the heat off yourself but why
don't you explain just how SS is Yang's fault and not
yours?
The social security system will tax
your grand children in order to pay you not to work.
Yeah, that's the problem: old people too lazy to work. It
couldn't be 3/4 of a trillion $ for a vanity war for 43, could it.
Is that what you
want??
Failed diversionary attempt noted.
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20 Dec 2005 12:08:32 AM |
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On 18 Dec 2005 19:04:19 -0800, "Mark Fox" <> wrote:
Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
On 18 Dec 2005 10:43:09 -0800, "Mark Fox" < > wrote:
Paul Duca wrote:
in article 1134918187.101749.224140@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com, Mark Fox
at wrote on 12/18/05 10:03 AM:
Yang, AthD...Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
ausstu@primus.com.au wrote:
Mark Fox wrote:
Yang, AthD ...Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
"Mark Fox" < > wrote:
Bush's debt is less per GDP than it was under Clinton.
Bzzzzt:
Here are the facts
Year US debt held by the public as a percentage of GDP
------ --------------------
1993 49.4 Clinton takes office.
1994 49.3
1995 49.2
1996 48.5
1997 46.1
1998 43.1
1999 39.8
2000 35.1
2001 33.1 George W. Bush takes office
2002 34.1
2003 36.1
2004 36.6
This data was specifically on the table found at:
http://frwebgate2.access.gpo.gov/
As you can clearly see, Clinton spent most of his "dress staining" days
with a federal debt percentage running in the forties and high
thirties. Bush's debt percentage is in the low to mid thirties.
Are you so stupid that you don't understand what these stats mean?
I'm fully aware of what they mean. If you bother to go back and look,
you will notice that I never addressed the issue of rising or falling
debt. I only stated the simple and correct fact that the level of debt
held by the public as a percentage of GDP is much smaller right now
under Bush than it was during many of the years under Clinton.
You libtards then proceeded to pop a vein and blow a gasket over stuff
I never said.
Just like Dan Rather's fake memos and Newsweeks fake stories, you
liberals fly off the handle and into orbit over many things that either
never happened or are faked by other liberals. Its all very funny to
watch.
I have been yanking your chain and you both have been dancing like
little circus dogs.
Given the shallowness of thinking by the libtards on this group, I
expected that this would happen and you have provided much
entertainment. Thanks!!
Clinton did a marvelous job to reduce Public debt as a % of GDP from
49.35 TO 33.1% and Bush in a few short years reversed that from 33.1%
to 36.6%.
This is true. I never said it wasn't.
But yet you still danced and sang for me. It was fun to watch.
Thanks. LOL!!
Does it make up for the money you never get?
Paul
Thanks to George Bush's tax cuts I could afford to go on an extra
vacation this year.
The resulting $1 TRILLION Debt being the burden of future generations.
GOP, the Party of Treason
Cancel social security and the debt would soon be gone. You need to
face the fact that it is you who burdens future generations with your
ponsi scheme retirement plans. The social security system will tax
your grand children in order to pay you not to work. Is that what you
want??
Oh look another Mark Fox Lie. SS has been running surpluses. AWOL has
been looting the SS fund to make his nationel debt look less bad.
-----
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec (aka aka Yang's little poltregeist *****)
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2156 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
-----
"Now, did I want to go? Hell no."
-duke (duckgumbo32@cox.net), aka PedophilEarl J Weber, 63
year old mateless, heirless biological failure
of Afton Oaks Apartment, Baton Rouge, on why
a Neocon chickenhawk like him pussied out of
the Vietnam War.
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20 Dec 2005 05:13:34 PM |
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On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 22:08:32 -0800, "Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's
Cocaine Snorting *****" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:
On 18 Dec 2005 19:04:19 -0800, "Mark Fox" < > wrote:
Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
On 18 Dec 2005 10:43:09 -0800, "Mark Fox" < > wrote:
Paul Duca wrote:
in article 1134918187.101749.224140@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com, Mark Fox
at wrote on 12/18/05 10:03 AM:
Yang, AthD...Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
ausstu@primus.com.au wrote:
Mark Fox wrote:
Yang, AthD ...Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
"Mark Fox" < > wrote:
Bush's debt is less per GDP than it was under Clinton.
Bzzzzt:
Here are the facts
Year US debt held by the public as a percentage of GDP
------ --------------------
1993 49.4 Clinton takes office.
1994 49.3
1995 49.2
1996 48.5
1997 46.1
1998 43.1
1999 39.8
2000 35.1
2001 33.1 George W. Bush takes office
2002 34.1
2003 36.1
2004 36.6
This data was specifically on the table found at:
http://frwebgate2.access.gpo.gov/
As you can clearly see, Clinton spent most of his "dress staining" days
with a federal debt percentage running in the forties and high
thirties. Bush's debt percentage is in the low to mid thirties.
Are you so stupid that you don't understand what these stats mean?
I'm fully aware of what they mean. If you bother to go back and look,
you will notice that I never addressed the issue of rising or falling
debt. I only stated the simple and correct fact that the level of debt
held by the public as a percentage of GDP is much smaller right now
under Bush than it was during many of the years under Clinton.
You libtards then proceeded to pop a vein and blow a gasket over stuff
I never said.
Just like Dan Rather's fake memos and Newsweeks fake stories, you
liberals fly off the handle and into orbit over many things that either
never happened or are faked by other liberals. Its all very funny to
watch.
I have been yanking your chain and you both have been dancing like
little circus dogs.
Given the shallowness of thinking by the libtards on this group, I
expected that this would happen and you have provided much
entertainment. Thanks!!
Clinton did a marvelous job to reduce Public debt as a % of GDP from
49.35 TO 33.1% and Bush in a few short years reversed that from 33.1%
to 36.6%.
This is true. I never said it wasn't.
But yet you still danced and sang for me. It was fun to watch.
Thanks. LOL!!
Does it make up for the money you never get?
Paul
Thanks to George Bush's tax cuts I could afford to go on an extra
vacation this year.
The resulting $1 TRILLION Debt being the burden of future generations.
GOP, the Party of Treason
Cancel social security and the debt would soon be gone. You need to
face the fact that it is you who burdens future generations with your
ponsi scheme retirement plans. The social security system will tax
your grand children in order to pay you not to work. Is that what you
want??
Oh look another Mark Fox Lie. SS has been running surpluses. AWOL has
been looting the SS fund to make his nationel debt look less bad.
They've all been looting it for years.
They also commonly bust spending caps.
They also spend "emergency funds" on non emergencies.
And they don't have to count money the government owes itself as a
part of the debt.
And they lie about it all.
Clinton's "surplus" was in the Social Security Trust fund as well as a
few others, not in general funds and thus wasn't really a surplus at
all.
But those on both sides treated it as one and couldn't wait to spend
it.
We're being had boys...somebody git a rope.
atheist@home1554
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20 Dec 2005 08:05:39 PM |
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On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 23:13:34 GMT, "atheist@home" <atheist@home.com>
wrote:
They've all been looting it for years.
They also commonly bust spending caps.
They also spend "emergency funds" on non emergencies.
And they don't have to count money the government owes itself as a
part of the debt.
And they lie about it all.
Clinton's "surplus" was in the Social Security Trust fund as well as a
few others, not in general funds and thus wasn't really a surplus at
all.
Clinton was not above making dumb spendings, but it is not true that
his budget surplus was entire due to SS. As the following CBO chart
shows, 1999-2000 spending ex SS was *lower* than tax revenue,
excluding SS.
http://delong.typepad.com/sdj/2005/12/rev_spen_exss3.html
As for the "starve the beast" NeoCon myth. if that works so well, why
is the government spending more money under Bush than Clinton?
But those on both sides treated it as one and couldn't wait to spend
it.
We're being had boys...somebody git a rope.
-----
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec (aka aka Yang's little poltregeist *****)
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2156 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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"Now, did I want to go? Hell no."
-duke (duckgumbo32@cox.net), aka PedophilEarl J Weber, 63
year old mateless, heirless biological failure
of Afton Oaks Apartment, Baton Rouge, on why
a Neocon chickenhawk like him pussied out of
the Vietnam War.
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| Title: Re: NeoCon Liying Scum of the Day: Mark "Faux News" Fox (GOP, The Party fo Lies) |
20 Dec 2005 05:24:55 PM |
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atheist@home wrote:
On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 22:08:32 -0800, "Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's
Cocaine Snorting *****" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:
On 18 Dec 2005 19:04:19 -0800, "Mark Fox" < > wrote:
Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
On 18 Dec 2005 10:43:09 -0800, "Mark Fox" < > wrote:
Paul Duca wrote:
in article 1134918187.101749.224140@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com, Mark Fox
at wrote on 12/18/05 10:03 AM:
Yang, AthD...Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
ausstu@primus.com.au wrote:
Mark Fox wrote:
Yang, AthD ...Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
"Mark Fox" < > wrote:
Bush's debt is less per GDP than it was under Clinton.
Bzzzzt:
Here are the facts
Year US debt held by the public as a percentage of GDP
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1993 49.4 Clinton takes office.
1994 49.3
1995 49.2
1996 48.5
1997 46.1
1998 43.1
1999 39.8
2000 35.1
2001 33.1 George W. Bush takes office
2002 34.1
2003 36.1
2004 36.6
This data was specifically on the table found at:
http://frwebgate2.access.gpo.gov/
As you can clearly see, Clinton spent most of his "dress staining" days
with a federal debt percentage running in the forties and high
thirties. Bush's debt percentage is in the low to mid thirties.
Are you so stupid that you don't understand what these stats mean?
I'm fully aware of what they mean. If you bother to go back and look,
you will notice that I never addressed the issue of rising or falling
debt. I only stated the simple and correct fact that the level of debt
held by the public as a percentage of GDP is much smaller right now
under Bush than it was during many of the years under Clinton.
You libtards then proceeded to pop a vein and blow a gasket over stuff
I never said.
Just like Dan Rather's fake memos and Newsweeks fake stories, you
liberals fly off the handle and into orbit over many things that either
never happened or are faked by other liberals. Its all very funny to
watch.
I have been yanking your chain and you both have been dancing like
little circus dogs.
Given the shallowness of thinking by the libtards on this group, I
expected that this would happen and you have provided much
entertainment. Thanks!!
Clinton did a marvelous job to reduce Public debt as a % of GDP from
49.35 TO 33.1% and Bush in a few short years reversed that from 33.1%
to 36.6%.
This is true. I never said it wasn't.
But yet you still danced and sang for me. It was fun to watch.
Thanks. LOL!!
Does it make up for the money you never get?
Paul
Thanks to George Bush's tax cuts I could afford to go on an extra
vacation this year.
The resulting $1 TRILLION Debt being the burden of future generations.
GOP, the Party of Treason
Cancel social security and the debt would soon be gone. You need to
face the fact that it is you who burdens future generations with your
ponsi scheme retirement plans. The social security system will tax
your grand children in order to pay you not to work. Is that what you
want??
Oh look another Mark Fox Lie. SS has been running surpluses. AWOL has
been looting the SS fund to make his nationel debt look less bad.
They've all been looting it for years.
They also commonly bust spending caps.
They also spend "emergency funds" on non emergencies.
And they don't have to count money the government owes itself as a
part of the debt.
And they lie about it all.
Clinton's "surplus" was in the Social Security Trust fund as well as a
few others, not in general funds and thus wasn't really a surplus at
all.
But those on both sides treated it as one and couldn't wait to spend
it.
We're being had boys...somebody git a rope.
atheist@home1554
Don't need a rope just a tax cut. You can't truse government
bueraucrats to spend less so you have to choke off their money supply.
Its the same as limiting the allowance of a little kid. After the tax
cut the rest will all work itself out. It always does.
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| User: "Del" |
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| Title: Re: NeoCon Liying Scum of the Day: Mark "Faux News" Fox (GOP, The Party fo Lies) |
21 Dec 2005 11:39:42 PM |
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Mark Fox wrote:
atheist@home wrote:
On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 22:08:32 -0800, "Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's
Cocaine Snorting *****" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:
On 18 Dec 2005 19:04:19 -0800, "Mark Fox" < > wrote:
Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
On 18 Dec 2005 10:43:09 -0800, "Mark Fox" < > wrote:
Paul Duca wrote:
in article 1134918187.101749.224140@z14 g2000cwz.googlegroups.com, Mark Fox
at wrote on 12/18/05 10:03 AM:
Yang, AthD...Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
ausstu@primus.com.au wrote:
Mark Fox wrote:
Yang, AthD ...Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
"Mark Fox" < > wrote:
Bush's debt is less per GDP than it was under Clinton.
Bzzzzt:
Here are the facts
Year US debt held by the public as a percentage of GDP
------ --------------------
1993 49.4 Clinton takes office.
1994 49.3
1995 49.2
1996 48.5
1997 46.1
1998 43.1
1999 39.8
2000 35.1
2001 33.1 George W. Bush takes office
2002 34.1
2003 36.1
2004 36.6
This data was specifically on the table found at:
http://frwebgate2.access.gpo.gov/
As you can clearly see, Clinton spent most of his "dress staining" days
with a federal debt percentage running in the forties and high
thirties. Bush's debt percentage is in the low to mid thirties.
Are you so stupid that you don't understand what these stats mean?
I'm fully aware of what they mean. If you bother to go back and look,
you will notice that I never addressed the issue of rising or falling
debt. I only stated the simple and correct fact that the level of debt
held by the public as a percentage of GDP is much smaller right now
under Bush than it was during many of the years under Clinton.
You libtards t hen proceeded to pop a vein and blow a gasket over stuff
I never said.
Just like Dan Rather's fake memos and Newsweeks fake stories, you
liberals fly off the handle and into orbit over many things that e ither
never happened or are faked by other liberals. Its all very funny to
watch.
I have been yanking your chain and you both have been dancing like
little circus dogs.
Given the shallowness of thinking by the libtards on this group, I
expected that this would happen and you have provided much
entertainment. Thanks!!
Clinton did a marvelous job to reduce Public debt as a % of GDP from
49.35 TO 33.1% and Bush in a few short years reversed that from 33.1%
to 36.6%.
This is true. I never said it wasn't.
But yet you still danced and sang for me. It was fun to watch.
Thanks. LOL!!
Does it make up for the money you never get?
Paul
Thanks to George Bush's tax cuts I could afford to go on an extra
vacation this year.
The resulting $1 TRILLION Debt being the burden of future generations.
GOP, the Party of Treason
Cancel social security and the debt would soon be gone. You need to
face the fact that it is you who burdens future generations with your
ponsi scheme retirement plans. The social security system will tax
your grand children in order to pay you not to work. Is that what you
want??
Oh look another Mark Fox Lie. SS has been running surpluses. AWOL has
been looting the SS fund to make his nationel debt look less bad.
They've all been looting it for years.
They also commonly bust spending c aps.
They also spend "emergency funds" on non emergencies.
And they don't have to count money the government owes itself as a
part of the debt.
And they lie about it all.
Clinton's "surplus" was in the Social Security Trust fund as wel l as a
few others, not in general funds and thus wasn't really a surplus at
all.
But those on both sides treated it as one and couldn't wait to spend
it.
We're being had boys...somebody git a rope.
atheist@home1554
Don't n eed a rope just a tax cut. You can't truse government
bueraucrats to spend less
He means the republican controlled congress and Whitehouse
but isn't honest enough and far to partisan to say so.
so you have to choke off their money supply.
Right. Take 2003. In the first 5 months of the fiscal year
individual income tax payments were down 11.4% from
the previous year and corporate tax payments down almost
50%. And yet the republican controlled borrow and spend
congress increased spending 7.6% -- Aversa, Jeannine.
"Fiscal 2003 Deficit Has Hit $193.9 Billion." Washington
Post, March 21, 2003.
Its the same as limiting the allowance of a little kid. After the tax
cut the rest will all work itself out.
LOL! Yeah, borrow and spend: the official policy of the
GOP and the last 3 republican administrations.
Republicans are willing to sell the country down the river
as long as they get paid in the process. The US already has
nearly--if not the--lowest tax rates of any modern, developed
nation on the planet. Dufus her wants to eliminate SS but
keep pork barrel military spending where it is or increase it,
even though we spend more on the military than the next
10 or 20 highest spending countries put together.
It always does.
Right. Like under Reagan who promised to balance the budget in
4 years and instead increased the national debt by 188%? You
have an arms-length relationship with the truth, bubba..
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| Title: Re: NeoCon Liying Scum of the Day: Mark "Faux News" Fox (GOP, The Party fo Lies) |
20 Dec 2005 06:44:16 PM |
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On 20 Dec 2005 15:24:55 -0800, "Mark Fox" <> wrote:
atheist@home wrote:
On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 22:08:32 -0800, "Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's
Cocaine Snorting *****" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:
On 18 Dec 2005 19:04:19 -0800, "Mark Fox" < > wrote:
Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
On 18 Dec 2005 10:43:09 -0800, "Mark Fox" < > wrote:
Paul Duca wrote:
in article 1134918187.101749.224140@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com, Mark Fox
at wrote on 12/18/05 10:03 AM:
Yang, AthD...Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
ausstu@primus.com.au wrote:
Mark Fox wrote:
Yang, AthD ...Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
"Mark Fox" < > wrote:
Bush's debt is less per GDP than it was under Clinton.
Bzzzzt:
Here are the facts
Year US debt held by the public as a percentage of GDP
------ --------------------
1993 49.4 Clinton takes office.
1994 49.3
1995 49.2
1996 48.5
1997 46.1
1998 43.1
1999 39.8
2000 35.1
2001 33.1 George W. Bush takes office
2002 34.1
2003 36.1
2004 36.6
This data was specifically on the table found at:
http://frwebgate2.access.gpo.gov/
As you can clearly see, Clinton spent most of his "dress staining" days
with a federal debt percentage running in the forties and high
thirties. Bush's debt percentage is in the low to mid thirties.
Are you so stupid that you don't understand what these stats mean?
I'm fully aware of what they mean. If you bother to go back and look,
you will notice that I never addressed the issue of rising or falling
debt. I only stated the simple and correct fact that the level of debt
held by the public as a percentage of GDP is much smaller right now
under Bush than it was during many of the years under Clinton.
You libtards then proceeded to pop a vein and blow a gasket over stuff
I never said.
Just like Dan Rather's fake memos and Newsweeks fake stories, you
liberals fly off the handle and into orbit over many things that either
never happened or are faked by other liberals. Its all very funny to
watch.
I have been yanking your chain and you both have been dancing like
little circus dogs.
Given the shallowness of thinking by the libtards on this group, I
expected that this would happen and you have provided much
entertainment. Thanks!!
Clinton did a marvelous job to reduce Public debt as a % of GDP from
49.35 TO 33.1% and Bush in a few short years reversed that from 33.1%
to 36.6%.
This is true. I never said it wasn't.
But yet you still danced and sang for me. It was fun to watch.
Thanks. LOL!!
Does it make up for the money you never get?
Paul
Thanks to George Bush's tax cuts I could afford to go on an extra
vacation this year.
The resulting $1 TRILLION Debt being the burden of future generations.
GOP, the Party of Treason
Cancel social security and the debt would soon be gone. You need to
face the fact that it is you who burdens future generations with your
ponsi scheme retirement plans. The social security system will tax
your grand children in order to pay you not to work. Is that what you
want??
Oh look another Mark Fox Lie. SS has been running surpluses. AWOL has
been looting the SS fund to make his nationel debt look less bad.
They've all been looting it for years.
They also commonly bust spending caps.
They also spend "emergency funds" on non emergencies.
And they don't have to count money the government owes itself as a
part of the debt.
And they lie about it all.
Clinton's "surplus" was in the Social Security Trust fund as well as a
few others, not in general funds and thus wasn't really a surplus at
all.
But those on both sides treated it as one and couldn't wait to spend
it.
We're being had boys...somebody git a rope.
atheist@home1554
Don't need a rope just a tax cut. You can't truse government
bueraucrats to spend less so you have to choke off their money supply.
Its the same as limiting the allowance of a little kid. After the tax
cut the rest will all work itself out. It always does.
That sounds good in theory but the little kid isn't generally allowed
by decent parents to steal his sister's allowance to replace his own.
The reality is that a tax cut only forces them to rob more from Peter
to pay Paul which they will then blame on that "ridiculous" tax cut.
It's tempting to say that if they had enough tax revenue they wouldn't
raid Social Security or take funds from somewhere else to make up the
difference, but then they can never get their greasy, thieving hands
on enough money so they are going to raid Social Security come Hell or
high water.
The problem is systemic and I am a firm believer that the only thing
that can stop them are amendments to the Constitution that would limit
their power to tax and spend or spend and tax.
atheist@home554
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| Title: Re: NeoCon Liying Scum of the Day: Mark "Faux News" Fox (GOP, The Party fo Lies) |
21 Dec 2005 08:25:27 AM |
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atheist@home wrote:
On 20 Dec 2005 15:24:55 -0800, "Mark Fox" < > wrote:
atheist@home wrote:
On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 22:08:32 -0800, "Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's
Cocaine Snorting *****" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:
On 18 Dec 2005 19:04:19 -0800, "Mark Fox" < > wrote:
Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
On 18 Dec 2005 10:43:09 -0800, "Mark Fox" < > wrote:
Paul Duca wrote:
in article 1134918187.101749.224140@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com, Mark Fox
at wrote on 12/18/05 10:03 AM:
Yang, AthD...Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
ausstu@primus.com.au wrote:
Mark Fox wrote:
Yang, AthD ...Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
"Mark Fox" < > wrote:
Bush's debt is less per GDP than it was under Clinton.
Bzzzzt:
Here are the facts
Year US debt held by the public as a percentage of GDP
------ --------------------
1993 49.4 Clinton takes office.
1994 49.3
1995 49.2
1996 48.5
1997 46.1
1998 43.1
1999 39.8
2000 35.1
2001 33.1 George W. Bush takes office
2002 34.1
2003 36.1
2004 36.6
This data was specifically on the table found at:
http://frwebgate2.access.gpo.gov/
As you can clearly see, Clinton spent most of his "dress staining" days
with a federal debt percentage running in the forties and high
thirties. Bush's debt percentage is in the low to mid thirties.
Are you so stupid that you don't understand what these stats mean?
I'm fully aware of what they mean. If you bother to go back and look,
you will notice that I never addressed the issue of rising or falling
debt. I only stated the simple and correct fact that the level of debt
held by the public as a percentage of GDP is much smaller right now
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