Religions > Atheism > Conversion overcomes evil, shields people, society from ruin, pope says
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21 Mar 2007 08:39:43 AM |
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Conversion overcomes evil, shields people, society from ruin, pope says |
His Holiness is a wise and decent man. All should pay heed to his words.
http://www.catholic.org/international/international_story.php?id=23344
VATICAN CITY (Catholic Online) - Accept Christ's call to conversion as the
only effective way to confront and overcome evil, Pope Benedict XVI urged
Catholics in his third Angelus address of the Lenten season.
In March 11 remarks, delivered before the recitation of the midday Angelus
to thousands of pilgrims and tourists in St. Peter's Square here, Pope
Benedict said that, while conversion may not always allow mankind to avoid
the consequences of sin and evil, without undergoing a heartfelt examination
of conscience and the subsequent change required "we will perish."
"Conversion overcomes evil at its root, which is sin, though it cannot
always avoid its consequences," he said.
Conversion "is the most effective response to evil, at all levels -
interpersonal, social and international," the pope said. "This is wisdom."
Pope Benedict referred to the Gospel of Luke, in which Jesus comments on two
events of misfortune, noting that "according to the mentality of the time,
the people tended to think that the misfortune fell on the victims because
of their grave fault."
Yet, Jesus advises that "it is no good to blame the victims," the pope said.
"What is truly wise," he stressed, "consists in allowing oneself to be
questioned by the precariousness of existence and to adopt an attitude of
responsibility: to do penance and improve our lives."
"The need for conversion," the pope added, is "the only appropriate response
to events that put human certainties in crisis."
A serious examination of conscience coupled with "a commitment to purify our
lives" allows mankind a way to "prevent evil and to neutralize some of its
threats, he said."
The act of doing penance and correcting conduct "is not simply moralism,"
the pontiff told the Catholic gathered, "but the most effective way to
improve both ourselves as well as society."
"People and societies that live without questioning themselves have ruin as
their only final end," Pope Benedict said.
Pray to the virgin Mary, the pope urged Catholics, to help "rediscover the
grandeur . the beauty of conversion."
"It is better to light a candle than to curse the darkness," he concluded.
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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| Title: Re: Conversion overcomes evil, shields people, society from ruin, pope says |
21 Mar 2007 09:53:50 AM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
His Holiness is a wise and decent man. All should pay heed to his words.
Now, if he'd quit protecting priests who molest altar boys...
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| User: "J Young" |
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| Title: Re: Conversion overcomes evil, shields people, society from ruin, pope says |
21 Mar 2007 11:36:40 AM |
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"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@eris.io.com> wrote in message
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
His Holiness is a wise and decent man. All should pay heed to his words.
Now, if he'd quit protecting priests who molest altar boys...
Had he immediately turned these perverts over to the proper authority, you'd
be up in arms calling His Holiness a 'homophobe'. The RCC mistakenly tried
to be a friend to the homos and seek help for them; for this the church is
paying dearly. At least the church admits it's mistakes; what about you?
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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| Title: Re: Conversion overcomes evil, shields people, society from ruin, pope says |
21 Mar 2007 02:49:08 PM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@eris.io.com> wrote in message
news:szk648u1wch.fsf@eris.io.com...
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
His Holiness is a wise and decent man. All should pay heed to his words.
Now, if he'd quit protecting priests who molest altar boys...
Had he immediately turned these perverts over to the proper authority, you'd
be up in arms calling His Holiness a 'homophobe'. The RCC mistakenly tried
to be a friend to the homos and seek help for them; for this the church is
paying dearly. At least the church admits it's mistakes; what about you?
I won't mourn the day you're carted off in a casket, IBen...and the Pope ought
to show some spine and actually address a two-millennia-old "tradition" in
that rotten church. Had he turned them over, I'd respect him a bit more than
I do now...even though I'll never respect *you*.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
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| User: "J Young" |
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| Title: Re: Conversion overcomes evil, shields people, society from ruin, pope says |
22 Mar 2007 09:21:56 AM |
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"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@eris.io.com> wrote in message
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@eris.io.com> wrote in message
news:szk648u1wch.fsf@eris.io.com...
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
His Holiness is a wise and decent man. All should pay heed to his words.
Now, if he'd quit protecting priests who molest altar boys...
Had he immediately turned these perverts over to the proper authority,
you'd
be up in arms calling His Holiness a 'homophobe'. The RCC mistakenly tried
to be a friend to the homos and seek help for them; for this the church is
paying dearly. At least the church admits it's mistakes; what about you?
I won't mourn the day you're carted off in a casket, IBen...and the Pope
ought
to show some spine and actually address a two-millennia-old "tradition" in
that rotten church. Had he turned them over, I'd respect him a bit more
than
I do now...even though I'll never respect *you*.
I don't have the respect of a person who was fired from, and escorted off
the property by security of, Rice University for stalking and harrassing
people with the university's computers? Oh, how will I ever go on?
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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| Title: Re: Conversion overcomes evil, shields people, society from ruin, pope says |
22 Mar 2007 09:49:11 AM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@eris.io.com> wrote in message
news:szkzm66wf63.fsf@eris.io.com...
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@eris.io.com> wrote in message
news:szk648u1wch.fsf@eris.io.com...
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
His Holiness is a wise and decent man. All should pay heed to his words.
Now, if he'd quit protecting priests who molest altar boys...
Had he immediately turned these perverts over to the proper authority,
you'd be up in arms calling His Holiness a 'homophobe'. The RCC mistakenly
tried to be a friend to the homos and seek help for them; for this the
church is paying dearly. At least the church admits it's mistakes; what
about you?
I won't mourn the day you're carted off in a casket, IBen...and the Pope
ought to show some spine and actually address a two-millennia-old
"tradition" in that rotten church. Had he turned them over, I'd respect
him a bit more than I do now...even though I'll never respect *you*.
I don't have the respect of a person who was fired from, and escorted off
the property by security of, Rice University for stalking and harrassing
people with the university's computers? Oh, how will I ever go on?
You're incapable of changing, IBen...and you're still addicted to your
fantasy. I wasn't fired for what you claim to be the case. (Free clue: no
violations of any local, state, or federal laws were involved.)
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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| Title: Re: Conversion overcomes evil, shields people, society from ruin, pope says |
21 Mar 2007 12:10:03 PM |
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In article <1174495128_1169@sp6iad.superfeed.net> "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@eris.io.com> wrote in message
news:szk648u1wch.fsf@eris.io.com...
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
His Holiness is a wise and decent man. All should pay heed to his words.
Now, if he'd quit protecting priests who molest altar boys...
Had he immediately turned these perverts over to the proper authority, you'd
be up in arms calling His Holiness a 'homophobe'. The RCC mistakenly
"mistakenly"? The Pope?
tried
to be a friend to the homos and seek help for them;
If by "help" you mean "cover it up and move them to another
assignment where they could begin preying on a fresh new crop", well,
who could argue with that?
for this the church is
paying dearly. At least the church admits it's mistakes;
Took them three centuries in the case of Galileo. Still working
on Pius IX.
what about you?
Oh, I admit mine too. Generally a lot more promptly.
-- cary
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Conversion overcomes evil, shields people, society from ruin, pope says |
21 Mar 2007 01:06:27 PM |
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J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@eris.io.com> wrote in message
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
His Holiness is a wise and decent man. All should pay heed to his words.
Now, if he'd quit protecting priests who molest altar boys...
Had he immediately turned these perverts over to the proper authority, you'd
be up in arms calling His Holiness a 'homophobe'.
If all you can do is lie about people then you clearly have no
morality at all.
The RCC mistakenly tried
to be a friend to the homos and seek help for them;
No, bigot, they tried to protect and abetted child molesters, and
you're now trying to excuse those crimes.
for this the church is
paying dearly.
Not nearly enough.
At least the church admits it's mistakes;
Only because it was forced to, and only as a shame since they still
refuse to deal with the problem.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Parsifal" |
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| Title: Re: Conversion overcomes evil, shields people, society from ruin, pope says |
21 Mar 2007 01:20:28 PM |
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On 21 Mrz., 17:36, "J Young" <youngopini...@aol.com> wrote:
"The Chief Instigator" <patr...@eris.io.com> wrote in messagenews:szk648u1wch.fsf@eris.io.com...
"J Young" <youngopini...@aol.com> writes:
His Holiness is a wise and decent man. All should pay heed to his words.
Now, if he'd quit protecting priests who molest altar boys...
Had he immediately turned these perverts over to the proper authority, you'd
be up in arms calling His Holiness a 'homophobe'.
Lying again, nazi turd?
You still don't make the difference between homosexuality and
pedophilia, do you?
The RCC mistakenly tried
to be a friend to the homos and seek help for them; for this the church is
paying dearly. At least the church admits it's mistakes; what about you?
Do you seriously believe that nonsence?
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| User: "Neil Kelsey" |
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| Title: Re: Conversion overcomes evil, shields people, society from ruin, pope says |
21 Mar 2007 01:25:11 PM |
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On Mar 21, 8:36 am, "J Young" <youngopini...@aol.com> wrote:
"The Chief Instigator" <patr...@eris.io.com> wrote in messagenews:szk648u1wch.fsf@eris.io.com...
"J Young" <youngopini...@aol.com> writes:
His Holiness is a wise and decent man. All should pay heed to his words.
Now, if he'd quit protecting priests who molest altar boys...
Had he immediately turned these perverts over to the proper authority, you'd
be up in arms calling His Holiness a 'homophobe'.
The issue isn't whether anyone is gay or not, the issue there is
PEDOPHILIA. That is a crime, homosexuality isn't. I don't care how
many priests are in the closet that is your church, but I do care that
they may be committing felonies. Yours was one of the most bizarre
statements I've come acoss in quite some time.
The RCC mistakenly tried
to be a friend to the homos and seek help for them; for this the church is
paying dearly. At least the church admits it's mistakes; what about you?
Psychedelically weird things to say. Wow.
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| User: "John D.Wentzky" |
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| Title: Re: Conversion overcomes evil, shields people, society from ruin, pope says |
21 Mar 2007 12:24:36 PM |
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"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@eris.io.com> wrote in message
news:szk648u1wch.fsf@eris.io.com...
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
His Holiness is a wise and decent man. All should pay heed to his words.
Now, if he'd quit protecting priests who molest altar boys...
And go after the gays who lied about the RCC.
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| User: "Lisbeth Andersson" |
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| Title: Re: Conversion overcomes evil, shields people, society from ruin, pope says |
21 Mar 2007 05:00:53 PM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in
news:1174484512_1077@sp6iad.superfeed.net:
VATICAN CITY (Catholic Online) - Accept Christ's call to
conversion as the only effective way to confront and overcome
evil, Pope Benedict XVI urged Catholics in his third Angelus
address of the Lenten season.
<....>
Did he have any suggestion about what the Catholics should convert to?
Lisbeth.
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| User: "Smiler" |
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| Title: Re: Conversion overcomes evil, shields people, society from ruin, pope says |
21 Mar 2007 08:15:44 PM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1174484512_1077@sp6iad.superfeed.net...
His Holiness is a wise and decent man. All should pay heed to his words.
http://www.catholic.org/international/international_story.php?id=23344
VATICAN CITY (Catholic Online) - Accept Christ's call to conversion as the
only effective way to confront and overcome evil, Pope Benedict XVI urged
Catholics in his third Angelus address of the Lenten season.
In March 11 remarks, delivered before the recitation of the midday Angelus
to thousands of pilgrims and tourists in St. Peter's Square here, Pope
Benedict said
<snip>
"People and societies that live without questioning themselves have ruin
as their only final end," Pope Benedict said.
I almost agee with that.
He's spelled 'the existence of god' as 'themselves'.
"It is better to light a candle than to curse the darkness," he concluded.
I almost agree with that too.
"It is better to light the candle of atheism than to curse the darkness of
religion."
There, that's better.
Smiler,
The godless one
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| User: "Don Martin" |
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| Title: Re: Conversion overcomes evil, shields people, society from ruin, pope says |
22 Mar 2007 10:09:38 PM |
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On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 01:15:44 GMT, "Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com>
wrote:
<snip>
"It is better to light a candle than to curse the darkness," he concluded.
I almost agree with that too.
"It is better to light the candle of atheism than to curse the darkness of
religion."
There, that's better.
Considering that in the past the atheists were the candles the
bastards lit, I don't think I would encourage this thought.
Through a jaundiced eye darkly--rheum with a view.
The Squeeky Wheel
http://home.comcast.net/~drdonmartin/
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| User: "Smiler" |
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| Title: Re: Conversion overcomes evil, shields people, society from ruin, pope says |
22 Mar 2007 11:12:48 PM |
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"Don Martin" <drdonmartin@comcast.net> wrote in message
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On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 01:15:44 GMT, "Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com>
wrote:
<snip>
"It is better to light a candle than to curse the darkness," he
concluded.
I almost agree with that too.
"It is better to light the candle of atheism than to curse the darkness of
religion."
There, that's better.
Considering that in the past the atheists were the candles the
bastards lit, I don't think I would encourage this thought.
Through a jaundiced eye darkly--rheum with a view.
The Squeeky Wheel
http://home.comcast.net/~drdonmartin/
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Conversion overcomes evil, shields people, society from ruin, pope says |
21 Mar 2007 11:23:34 AM |
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J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
His Holiness is a wise and decent man.
Some people also say that about Hitler.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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| Title: Re: Conversion overcomes evil, shields people, society from ruin, pope says |
21 Mar 2007 08:35:39 PM |
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On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 09:39:43 -0400 there was an Ancient "J Young"
<youngopinions@aol.com> who stoppeth one in alt.atheism
His Holiness is a wise and decent man. All should pay heed to his words.
Go read a good history of the Thirty Years War. See how much fun
conversions can be.
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Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011
"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the
source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a
stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as
good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein
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| User: "Parsifal" |
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| Title: Re: Intelligence overcomes evil, shields people, society from ruin, not religion |
21 Mar 2007 09:29:32 AM |
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On 21 mar, 14:39, "J Young" <youngopini...@aol.com> wrote:
His Holiness is a wise and decent man.
Why so? because that'w hat you are taught to repeat? Please give us
ONE example of his wisdom...
All should pay heed to his words.
Why so? He's only a human being.
And in case you forgot, you sent this to alt.atheism.
So explain why on earth we should listen to a German septuagenarian
wearing dresses just because he is the chief of a sect?
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| User: "Pastor Kutchie, ordained atheist minister" |
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| Title: Re: Conversion overcomes evil, shields people, society from ruin, pope says |
21 Mar 2007 02:19:13 PM |
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On Mar 21, 1:39 pm, "J Young" <youngopini...@aol.com> wrote:
His Holiness is a wise and decent man. All should pay heed to his words.
So, when is he going to take his own advice?
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| User: "Attila" |
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| Title: Re: Conversion overcomes evil, shields people, society from ruin, pope says |
21 Mar 2007 06:01:43 PM |
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On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 09:39:43 -0400, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <1174484512_1077@sp6iad.superfeed.net>
wrote:
His Holiness is a wise and decent man. All should pay heed to his words.
Not by me. He is a little old man in a dress and a funny hat, and I
could not care less what he has to say about anything.
--
Pro-Choice is Pro-Freedom
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| User: "Paul Duca" |
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| Title: Re: Conversion overcomes evil, shields people, society from ruin,pope says |
21 Mar 2007 05:11:36 PM |
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in article 1174484512_1077@sp6iad.superfeed.net, J Young at
youngopinions@aol.com wrote on 3/21/07 9:39 AM:
His Holiness is a wise and decent man. All should pay heed to his words.
J Yo likes the taste of His Holiness' toejam, and looks forward
to spending eternity licking it out for Him.
Paul
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