Religions > Atheism > Copernicus *GUILTY* Of Heresy (but you already knew that, right?)
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16 Jan 2007 01:06:04 PM |
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Copernicus *GUILTY* Of Heresy (but you already knew that, right?) |
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NOTE: I've added a link to my webpage with the scanned
image of an original ancient 'Ten Spheres' artwork that
is cited verbatim below, in the common text-only format:
http://www.2hot2cool.com/11/danieljosephmin/Mins_Ten_Heavenly_Spheres.htm
See: 'De revolutionibus orbium coelestium libri VI':
http://pka.bj.uj.edu.pl/bjmanus/revol/titlpg_e.html
Not only did Copernicus seek to re-order the heavens,
he conspicuously ignored Earth's place at the center
of her caelestial sphere. That was his fatal blunder.
Copernicus tried to confuse the heavens, re-numbering
Earth's caelestial sphere first instead of eighth, as
Nick renumbered Saturn second instead of seventh, and
Jupiter third instead of sixth, also renumbering Mars
fourth instead of fifth, Earth fifth instead of tenth;
IGNORING THE MOON he renumbers Venus sixth instead of
third, Mercury seventh instead of second, ad nauseam!
This first chart summarizes synodic & sidereal
periods of the planets in mean solar days, and
mean tropical years, to measure sidereal years.
This is especially important, since it proves
that the order of the heavens is established by
sidereal--NOT synodic--periods of the planets:
THE TEN PLANETARY ORBITS
S# Pla Synod Sider. /TropY
*10 Plu 366.7 90800. 247.9
*9 Nep 367.5 60190. 164.8
*8 Ura 369.7 30685. 84.02
7 Sat 378.1 10760. 29.45
6 Jup 399.9 4332.2 11.86
5 Mar 780.0 686.98 1.881
4 Sun ----- 365.26 1.000
3 Ven 583.9 224.70 0.615
2 Mer 115.9 87.969 0.241
1 Moo 29.53 27.322 0.075
^^^^^^
*NOTE:Ura rules Earth's sidereal year =~ 1.00004
Nep rules Earth's tropical year =~ 1.00000
Plu rules Earth's own geocenter =~ 0.00000.
Cf. the above with this chart dated cir. 440 AD, which
agrees with Greco-Roman authorities dated centuries BC;
that's centuries **BEFORE CHRIST**, you do the math....
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COELVM EMPIREVM HABITACVLVM DEI ET OMNIVM ELECTORVM
Heaven Name Sphere Mvsa Goddess
X Primvm Mobile Earth/Plvton Mnemosyne Memory
IX Mobile Seasons/Neptvne Thalia Comedy
VIII Caelest.Firma. Stars/Vranvs Vrania Astronomy
VII SATVRNI Satvrn Polihymnia Hymnody
VI IOVIS Jvpiter Evterpe Melody
V MARTIS Mars Eratho Lyric
IV SOLIS Svn Melpomene Tragedy
III VENERIS Venvs Terpsicore Dance
II MERCVRII Mercvry Kaliope Epic
I LVNE Moon Klio History
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THIS DEMONSTRATES CONCLUSIVELY THAT ancient astronomers
knew full-well that the planets orbit with the Sun, and
knew the Earth is the center of her caelestial firmament.
Notably, the explictly sidereal numbering of the heavens
coupled with the very obvious fact that the Earth is the
center of her caelestial sphere, these facts prove that
Copernicus was a heretic. Only Atheists ignore evidence,
choosing instead to perpetuate their Copernican delusion.
For further information on how easy it is to observe
and predict the synodic -and- sidereal periods of the
ten planets of heaven, just as the ancients did, see:
*Min's 'Observing and Predicting Planetary Orbits':
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=BVNNKOHL38924.9795601852@twistycreek.com
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=BVNNKOHL38924.9795601852 <AT> twistycreek.com
Clear Skies!
Daniel Joseph Min
http://www.2hot2cool.com/11/danieljosephmin/
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| User: "raven1" |
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| Title: Re: Copernicus *GUILTY* Of Heresy (but you already knew that, right?) |
16 Jan 2007 02:07:21 PM |
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On Tue, 16 Jan 2007 20:06:04 +0100, Star Master
<ten.planets@astronomy.education> wrote:
God, yer a fucking loon...!
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NOTE: I've added a link to my webpage with the scanned
image of an original ancient 'Ten Spheres' artwork that
is cited verbatim below, in the common text-only format:
http://www.2hot2cool.com/11/danieljosephmin/Mins_Ten_Heavenly_Spheres.htm
See: 'De revolutionibus orbium coelestium libri VI':
http://pka.bj.uj.edu.pl/bjmanus/revol/titlpg_e.html
Not only did Copernicus seek to re-order the heavens,
he conspicuously ignored Earth's place at the center
of her caelestial sphere. That was his fatal blunder.
Copernicus tried to confuse the heavens, re-numbering
Earth's caelestial sphere first instead of eighth, as
Nick renumbered Saturn second instead of seventh, and
Jupiter third instead of sixth, also renumbering Mars
fourth instead of fifth, Earth fifth instead of tenth;
IGNORING THE MOON he renumbers Venus sixth instead of
third, Mercury seventh instead of second, ad nauseam!
This first chart summarizes synodic & sidereal
periods of the planets in mean solar days, and
mean tropical years, to measure sidereal years.
This is especially important, since it proves
that the order of the heavens is established by
sidereal--NOT synodic--periods of the planets:
THE TEN PLANETARY ORBITS
S# Pla Synod Sider. /TropY
*10 Plu 366.7 90800. 247.9
*9 Nep 367.5 60190. 164.8
*8 Ura 369.7 30685. 84.02
7 Sat 378.1 10760. 29.45
6 Jup 399.9 4332.2 11.86
5 Mar 780.0 686.98 1.881
4 Sun ----- 365.26 1.000
3 Ven 583.9 224.70 0.615
2 Mer 115.9 87.969 0.241
1 Moo 29.53 27.322 0.075
^^^^^^
*NOTE:Ura rules Earth's sidereal year =~ 1.00004
Nep rules Earth's tropical year =~ 1.00000
Plu rules Earth's own geocenter =~ 0.00000.
Cf. the above with this chart dated cir. 440 AD, which
agrees with Greco-Roman authorities dated centuries BC;
that's centuries **BEFORE CHRIST**, you do the math....
-------------------------------------------------------------
COELVM EMPIREVM HABITACVLVM DEI ET OMNIVM ELECTORVM
Heaven Name Sphere Mvsa Goddess
X Primvm Mobile Earth/Plvton Mnemosyne Memory
IX Mobile Seasons/Neptvne Thalia Comedy
VIII Caelest.Firma. Stars/Vranvs Vrania Astronomy
VII SATVRNI Satvrn Polihymnia Hymnody
VI IOVIS Jvpiter Evterpe Melody
V MARTIS Mars Eratho Lyric
IV SOLIS Svn Melpomene Tragedy
III VENERIS Venvs Terpsicore Dance
II MERCVRII Mercvry Kaliope Epic
I LVNE Moon Klio History
-------------------------------------------------------------
THIS DEMONSTRATES CONCLUSIVELY THAT ancient astronomers
knew full-well that the planets orbit with the Sun, and
knew the Earth is the center of her caelestial firmament.
Notably, the explictly sidereal numbering of the heavens
coupled with the very obvious fact that the Earth is the
center of her caelestial sphere, these facts prove that
Copernicus was a heretic. Only Atheists ignore evidence,
choosing instead to perpetuate their Copernican delusion.
For further information on how easy it is to observe
and predict the synodic -and- sidereal periods of the
ten planets of heaven, just as the ancients did, see:
*Min's 'Observing and Predicting Planetary Orbits':
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=BVNNKOHL38924.9795601852@twistycreek.com
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=BVNNKOHL38924.9795601852 <AT> twistycreek.com
Clear Skies!
Daniel Joseph Min
http://www.2hot2cool.com/11/danieljosephmin/
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"O Sybilli, si ergo
Fortibus es in ero
O Nobili! Themis trux
Sivat sinem? Causen Dux"
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| User: "Starlord" |
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| Title: Re: Copernicus *GUILTY* Of Heresy (but you already knew that, right?) |
16 Jan 2007 03:03:01 PM |
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I wish you wouldn't quote back all his trash. It would be a better post.
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There are those who believe that life here, began out there, far across the
universe, with tribes of humans, who may have been the forefathers of the
Egyptians, or the Toltecs, or the Mayans. Some believe that they may yet be
brothers of man, who even now fight to survive, somewhere beyond the
heavens.
The Lone Sidewalk Astronomer of Rosamond
Telescope Buyers FAQ
http://home.inreach.com/starlord
Sidewalk Astronomy
www.sidewalkastronomy.info
The Church of Eternity
http://home.inreach.com/starlord/church/Eternity.html
"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 16 Jan 2007 20:06:04 +0100, Star Master
<ten.planets@astronomy.education> wrote:
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| User: "Midjis" |
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| Title: Re: Copernicus *GUILTY* Of Heresy (but you already knew that, right?) |
16 Jan 2007 01:43:44 PM |
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Star Master <ten.planets@astronomy.education> wrote :
Subject: Copernicus *GUILTY* Of Heresy (but you already knew that,
right?)
No. I do not recognise any crime of 'heresy' for a person to be guilty of.
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| User: "LC" |
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| Title: Re: Danny Min *GUILTY* Of STUPIDITY (but you already knew that, right?) |
16 Jan 2007 02:19:06 PM |
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The ragingly insane Danny Min aka "Star Master"
<ten.planets@astronomy.education> wrote in message
news:9c4e2c4e5ff7b8be3de65ace7148e06d@msgid.frell.theremailer.net...
<Min-imum troll dumped>
"I have found Christian dogma unintelligible. Early in life I absented
myself from Christian assemblies."~ Benjamin Franklin
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| User: "Clacker" |
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| Title: Re: Copernicus *GUILTY* Of Heresy (but you already knew that, right?) |
16 Jan 2007 04:06:40 PM |
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Wow, as hard as a try, i can't seem to comprehend this post. In fact,
I don't even know what the conclusion of the post is.
Then again, most religious arguments are incomprehensible.
That must mean I'm stupid.
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Please don't tell me we're still debating what the structure of the
solar system is...
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| User: "Midjis" |
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| Title: Re: Copernicus *GUILTY* Of Heresy (but you already knew that, right?) |
16 Jan 2007 06:58:31 PM |
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"Clacker" <szhang@ossm.edu> wrote :
Please don't tell me we're still debating what the structure of the
solar system is...
We are not. Min may well be.
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| User: "Curtis Croulet" |
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| Title: Re: Copernicus *GUILTY* Of Heresy (but you already knew that, right?) |
16 Jan 2007 06:50:56 PM |
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Wow, as hard as a try, i can't seem to comprehend this post. In fact,
I don't even know what the conclusion of the post is.
Then again, most religious arguments are incomprehensible.
That must mean I'm stupid.
The gist is that ancient astrologers knew more than Copernicus. Min
believes in astrology. He seems to think that Copernicus is some sort of
scientific god who needs to be debunked.
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Curtis Croulet
Temecula, California
33°27'59"N, 117°05'53"W
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