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http://mediamatters.org/items/200606080002
Coulter continued attacks on liberals, families of 9-11 victims: "[D]o
I have to kill my mother so I can be a victim, too?"
Summary: While promoting her new book on Hannity & Colmes and The
Situation with Tucker Carlson, right-wing pundit Ann Coulter continued
to bash both liberals and family members of victims of the September
11, 2001 terrorist attacks. Coulter asserted that Jesus would say that
"we are called upon to do battle" on liberalism. In criticizing family
members of 9-11 victims, Coulter asked: "[D]o I have to kill my mother
so I can be a victim, too?"
While promoting her new book Godless: The Church of Liberalism (Crown
Forum, June 2006) on the June 6 editions of Fox News' Hannity & Colmes
and MSNBC's The Situation with Tucker Carlson, right-wing pundit Ann
Coulter continued to bash both liberals and family members of victims
of the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks. Coulter asserted that
Jesus would say that "we are called upon to do battle" on liberalism.
In criticizing family members of 9-11 victims, Coulter asked: "[D]o I
have to kill my mother so I can be a victim, too?"
Hannity & Colmes
When asked by Hannity & Colmes co-host Alan Colmes whether "Jesus
[would] sanction a book that belittles and ridicules a large segment of
the American population," Coulter replied, "Yes." In defense of her
claim, Coulter cited the "money-changers passage" as evidence, stating
that "liberals always think of Christ as, you know, some pantywaist.
No. We are called upon to do battle." Coulter also stated that "the
general compulsion of liberals [is] to free criminals," and explained
her theory of how the liberal "religion" has used its "obsession with
Darwinism" to "replace[] sanctification of life with sanctification of
sex and death":
COULTER: Well, it is an entire cosmology, a view of the world,
beliefs in the supernatural. I do think, something I don't get to until
the end of the book, that at the root of the lot of it is -- is their
obsession with Darwinism and the Darwinian view of the world, which
replaces sanctification of life with sanctification of sex and death.
Sex and death. That's how you get improvement in the species. And
allegedly, the new species, which they've never been able to produce.
Then, as she had done during an interview with host Matt Lauer on the
June 6 edition of NBC's Today, Coulter again criticized 9-11 widows,
stating that "nobody likes being lectured by a victim" and asking:
"[D]o I have to kill my mother so I can be a victim, too?"
In addition, when asked by Colmes to respond to accusations by
elections officials in Palm Beach, Florida, who alleged that she might
have committed voter fraud, Coulter replied: "I think the syphilis has
gone to their brains."
The Situation with Tucker Carlson
During her interview with host Tucker Carlson -- who claimed the new
book is "reasonable; it's very smart" -- Coulter reiterated her claim
that liberalism is "a godless religion" that "infects the schools" and
"baptiz[es]" children "in the religion of recycling and condom use."
She continued with additional attacks on liberals:
* I mean, as I say at one point in the book, you never run into
a fundamentalist Christian as intolerant of -- take anything, you know,
homosexuality -- as a liberal who has just found a lit cigarette in a
nonsmoking section.
* They tend to cite the Constitution or science. But in both
cases, the Constitution or constitutional never refers to the actual
Constitution; it just means what liberals like. The same thing with
science. I have a whole chapter on liberals', really, repulsion from
science because science isn't subject to their hysterics and crying
jags, whether it's on breast implants, stem-cell research, the fact of
IQ.
* Well, they are a church. It's separation of our church and
state, not their church and state.
* And I must say, I sort of feel sorry for gays being the last
ones at the sexual-revolution window. We've had liberalizing rules on
divorce. We've had the sexual revolution. We've had, you know, the pill
and burning bras and rampant premarital sex and polymorphous
perversity. And 30 years later, gays come to the window and say, "We'd
like our little slice, too," and suddenly, the nation erupts in rage.
So I do feel sorry for them for that, but I don't like the rest of that
stuff either. And I think that's what this is a reaction to.
She also told Carlson that the widows of victims of the September 11,
2001, terrorist attacks "demand that we listen to them out of pity,"
and that they should "take their money and shut up about it."
As Media Matters for America has noted, Coulter has a history of
inflammatory and offensive rhetoric.
From the June 6 edition of Fox News' Hannity & Colmes:
HANNITY: All right, your first cable interview. I was watching you
with what's his name on the Today show, Matt Lauer, little tense there
on the set.
COULTER: A little tense. It was a great interview. It's much better
than being asked to describe the book. You know, that's always the
hardest in the first week, because you don't have the chapters
summarized yet. Arguing, I can do.
HANNITY: We just had on -- your book reminded me, Ann, of a topic
we were just discussing. I see Mrs. Souers, who we just had on this
program, and how can you not just want to cry for, a, what this woman
has gone through --
COULTER: Right.
HANNITY: -- this father is going through, and also what this girl
went through.
COULTER: Right.
HANNITY: And then we're just beginning to get the record of this
guy.
COULTER: That's right.
HANNITY: You have an entire chapter in here and you talk about
Willie Horton.
COULTER: Yes, and the general compulsion of liberals to free
criminals. I mean, it is stunning how predictable it is. I was thinking
the same thing sitting back in the green room. This guy has been -- I
don't know the details. I don't know if you reported them, but on these
sex crimes before -- but I can assure it wasn't a conservative
legislature, a conservative judge releasing these guys. It's the same
thing over and over again. I mean, one case I have is Arthur Shawcross,
who was released by [former New York governor Mario] Cuomo's parole
board -- this was many years ago -- after he had sexually molested and
murdered a little girl and a little boy. After 15 years in prison, he
was released. He was secretly moved to a town where the police were not
even notified he was going to be there. In the next few years, he
murdered 11 women. I mean, it's predictable that this is going to
happen again and again and again.
COLMES: You know, [President] George [H.W.] Bush 41 pardoned drug
dealers and drug traders, all presidents have pardoned. So, you know
what? We can play a game of who is worse on criminals. You say your
Christianity fuels everything you do --
COULTER: Oh, yes. That's my Human Events interview.
COLMES: -- everything you write, and that you're called upon to
battle cruelty. You said that to Human Events. Would Jesus sanction a
book that belittles and ridicules a large segment of the American
population?
COULTER: Yes.
COLMES: Jesus would? Where would Jesus -- can you point to the
passage where Jesus would approve of that?
COULTER: Well, there's the famed money changers' passage, which is
my favorite, probably a favorite of Sean's, as well. I mean, liberals
always think of Christ as, you know, some pantywaist. No. We are called
upon to do battle.
COLMES: Wait, wait, wait --
COULTER: And, by the way, this is not a book about Christianity.
That was an interview I did.
[crosstalk]
COLMES: What liberal said Christ is a pantywaist? Can you name who
that is?
COULTER: No, this naming names things -- you're not getting me
into.
COLMES: Because you talk in broad categories. I'd like to know who
specifically.
COULTER: I do talk in broad categories. This is a book about
liberalism.
[...]
COLMES: You're talking about godless liberals not having values,
not being values people. In light of that you've been in the news a
little bit lately, accused by election supervisor Arthur Anderson of
Palm Beach of voting in the wrong district and not answering a
registered letter that they sent to. And they say that you might have
committed a felony. So could you address those charges and tell us what
happened?
COULTER: I think the syphilis has gone to their brains.
[...]
COLMES: Let's talk about what you said in your book about the 9/11
widows, when you mentioned briefly in that earlier interview today. You
accuse them of using their husbands' deaths to speak out. Didn't George
W. Bush use their husbands' deaths to grab executive power and start a
war in Iraq, which was not a threat to 9/11?
COULTER: No, he has executive power. He's the president.
COLMES: He broadened it, some would say unconstitutionally.
COULTER: You can say whatever you want. He's the president. He is
in charge of running foreign policy under the Constitution of the
United States.
COLMES: You've actually attacked women, bereaved women, and you
call them sobbing hysterical women.
COULTER: I don't attack them for being widows. I attack -- I simply
do not believe that having your husband die entitles your left-wing
views to sanctification.
COLMES: They're not all left wing. In fact many of them are
Republicans and voted for Bush.
COULTER: It is the most vulgar thing. Yes, until then.
COLMES: Yes, that's right.
COULTER: We always hear about Damascus Road conversion. I'm sure
they were. No. This is, I think, a serious point. The liberal -- and
it's a chapter in my book on liberal infallibility. I think it's one of
the most vulgar things liberals have done to discourse in America.
COLMES: These women are not liberals. They're women who spoke out.
COULTER: This personal authenticity to have a position on
something. What, can I not talk to you about, you know, discrimination
against Jews? Can you not talk to me about women in America?
COLMES: No one's stopping you. No one's stopping you. This is the
broad platform we have.
COULTER: Do I have to kill my mother so I can be a victim, too?
COLMES: But Ann, these women are not liberals. They're women who
spoke out.
COULTER: They're always put in forward -- no, they say they need to
be listened to, and we can't respond because they're victims.
COLMES: But you call them grieving, sobbing --
COULTER: Nobody likes being lectured by a victim.
COLMES: Do you think calling them sobbing hysterical women when
these women had their husbands blown up by terrorists shows due respect
to these grieving widows?
COULTER: You're leaving out the entire point of why they are even
in the news and we're being -- and we're talking about them. They
injected themselves into the public debate. They're giving interviews,
and press conferences on public policy, on the response to 9/11.
COLMES: Yes. They get to speak out.
HANNITY: Let me move on here. I guess now we're going to accuse the
president of using widows for -- is that what I'm hearing?
COLMES: I don't know. Alan doesn't know that the president already
has executive authority. That's why he's called the president.
HANNITY: Let me ask you this. One of the most provocative chapters.
This is a provocative book. You only write provocative books.
COULTER: Thank you.
HANNITY: And you hit hard, because this is what you believe. And I
want you to explain this, the chapter, "The Holiest Sacrament,
Abortion." We don't want to talk about abortion it seems like any more
in America.
COULTER: I think -- I think we may be at the point where the
abortion ladies are finally going to be thrown off the boat. But they
are the last ones the Democratic Party are going to throw out. I mean,
it is striking that Bill Clinton, the last -- the last Democrat that
the Democrats have been able to trick the American people into putting
in the White House, sold out basically every Democratic special
interest group but one. He vetoed the partial birth abortion ban twice,
which was passed by overwhelming majorities in the House and the
Senate. It's a gruesome procedure. It's opposed by vast numbers of
Americans. I mean, it's like the death penalty in that way. And he
vetoed it twice. That tells you how important abortion is to the
Democratic Party.
HANNITY: I've been looking for it -- you're going to be on my radio
show tomorrow. We're going to be at a Book Review in Huntington doing a
live radio show, and anyone can come see us, by the way.
COULTER: Except Alan.
HANNITY: No, Alan's welcome.
COLMES: I'm disappointed I wasn't in your book.
COULTER: Sorry.
HANNITY: But one of the points that you're really making as you
read the entire book and you're saying godless, the church of
liberalism. What you're saying is that there is a moral foundation to
the thinking of the left. And I want you to explain that in a little
more detail, because you go into great detail in the book. But explain
the philosophy behind this.
COULTER: Well, it is an entire cosmology view of the world, beliefs
in the supernatural. I do think, something I don't get to until the end
of the book, that at the root of the lot of it is -- is their obsession
with Darwinism and the Darwinian view of the world, which replaces
sanctification of life with sanctification of sex and death. Sex and
death. That's how you get the improvement in the species. And
allegedly, the new species, which they've never been able to produce.
HANNITY: Talk a little bit about yourself, because to have --
because I share most of your views. And I'm having a hard time --
except your review of my book, which I did not like. But I share...
COULTER: I thought you were too nice to liberals.
HANNITY: I share a lot of your views. But I want you to explain to
everybody what is the foundation of Ann Coulter? Because a lot of
people, when I mention your name to liberals they melt. You are like
Alka-Seltzer in water. They bubble, fizz, give off their energy. You
are the Antichrist to them. Who is -- what is the Ann Coulter? Where
does your philosophy come from?
COULTER: Well, that's the toughest question I'm probably going to
get on the book tour. As much as I don't like talking about myself, I'm
a Christian, and everything comes from being a Christian. Everything I
do, I mean, from the interview that Alan was just reading from to
"Human Events". I mean, I do think Christianity fuels all of my books,
because you are called upon to behave in a certain way as a Christian,
and that is to fight lies, injustice, cruelty, hypocrisy. That fuels
everything.
From the June 6 edition of MSNBC's The Situation with Tucker Carlson:
CARLSON: Joining me now live from New York to explain, Ann Coulter.
Ann, welcome.
COULTER: Hello, nice to be here.
CARLSON: We think of liberals as less religious than conservatives.
And all surveys of voting behavior bear that out. The more often you go
to church, the more likely you are to vote Republican. Not a pejorative
statement; just a fact. How is it that liberals, as you say, are every
bit as religious as conservatives?
COULTER: Well, it's a godless religion. It bears all of the
earmarks, often the less attractive earmarks of the ways they attack
religion, the hysteria, the intolerance, the self-righteousness. I
mean, as I say at one point in the book, you never run into a
fundamentalist Christian as intolerant of -- take anything, you know,
homosexuality -- as a liberal who has just found a lit cigarette in a
nonsmoking section.
CARLSON: I can verify that that's true. So without God, though, I
mean, there are no absolutes, right?
COULTER: Right.
CARLSON: I mean, it's easy to that something is absolutely good or
absolutely bad unless you appeal to a higher authority, whether it's
real or not. So how is it people who tend not to believe, at least in
your telling it, in absolutes are absolutely convicted of certain
things?
COULTER: Right. No, that's right. It is a godless religion. It's
basically set up in opposition. It's the opposition party to God. Where
liberals derive their self-righteousness, I don't know. They tend to
cite the Constitution or science. But in both cases, the Constitution
or constitutional never refers to the actual Constitution; it just
means what liberals like. The same thing with science. I have a whole
chapter on liberals', really, repulsion from science because science
isn't subject to their hysterics and crying jags, whether it's on
breast implants, stem-cell research, the fact of IQ.
CARLSON: You're talking about secular liberals, and I tend to agree
with you that -- that --
COULTER: Oh, yes, and the Summers. Remember the reaction to [former
Harvard University president] Larry Summers' remark.
CARLSON: Right.
COULTER: Science is something that you have facts. They can be
tested. They can be checked. Heterosexual AIDS, another one.
CARLSON: Right. But what about -- what about religious liberals? I
mean, there are many, and I know some authentic religious liberals,
people who believe in Christianity or Judaism, who are also politically
liberal. What do you make of them?
COULTER: I think they're lapsed liberals. Good, welcome aboard.
CARLSON: So there's no room for a kind of legitimate disagreement
on religion? There are people in my own church, the Episcopal Church,
who I don't agree with, but I think are genuinely trying to be
Christians. But they're screaming lefties, who you know, summer in
Vermont and all that. But I think they're for real when they say
they're Christians.
COULTER: I don't know who you're talking about. And this --
CARLSON: Sure you do. Imagine the stereotype.
COULTER: Well, OK, but I'm not -- let's not personalize this. I'm
not talking about specific liberals the same way. I mean, you can
describe Christianity and you can also describe liberalism.
Christianity has certain beliefs, tenets, doctrines. Not all Christians
are always living up to them. Similarly, not all liberals are living up
to the tenets of liberalism. But there is a vector. There is a
movement. You can describe certain aspects to this religion of
liberalism, which advances, which infects the schools, has school
children for six hours a day, 12 years of their young lives in
baptizing them in the religion of recycling and condom use. But a
moment of silence, that's banned, and that is banned because of the
alleged separation of church and state. Well, they are a church. It's
separation of our church and state, not their church and state.
CARLSON: Well, speaking -- speaking of the intersection of politics
and religion, gay marriage, obviously an issue that has gotten a lot of
press in the last two days. But I wonder, though, about the
conservative argument for gay marriage, and there is one, and it's
this.
That marriage is a civilizing force in society. People are more
productive, happier citizens when they're married. And that gay people,
once given the opportunity to get married, will, in fact, be happier,
more productive citizens. And in fact, it's conservatives who allow
people to make lifelong commitments. What do you make of that argument?
COULTER: It's -- it's an argument. I don't buy it, and apparently,
the American people don't buy it. I mean, ultimately, you forget the
reason for an institution that's been around for 3,000 years. But
ultimately, the purpose of marriage is to transmit civilization to the
next generation. There has never been an institution that does it as
well as marriage, and that is marriage between a man and a woman. And I
must say, I sort of feel sorry for gays being the last ones at the
sexual-revolution window. We've had liberalizing rules on divorce.
We've had the sexual revolution. We've had, you know, the pill and
burning bras and rampant premarital sex and polymorphous perversity.
And 30 years later, gays come to the window and say, "We'd like our
little slice, too," and suddenly, the nation erupts in rage. So I do
feel sorry for them for that, but I don't like the rest of that stuff
either. And I think that's what this is a reaction to.
[...]
CARLSON: Ann Coulter joins us tonight live from New York. Ann,
welcome back.
COULTER: Thank you.
CARLSON: "Enjoying their husband's deaths so much." I understand
your point about just because you're a victim doesn't make you an
expert but enjoying their husband's death so much is an awful thing to
say.
COULTER: I think its true, and I think this is something liberals
do all the time. It's an ugly way to...
CARLSON: You think it's true that these women are enjoying -- A lot
of these women are left with children, and their husbands were killed
on 9/11. I mean, gee.
COULTER: So were hundreds of other widows but they weren't cutting
campaign commercials for Clinton, and they weren't going around
demanding commissions.
CARLSON: But enjoying their husband's death is prima facie so nasty
that it discredits what I think is a pretty good book.
COULTER: The point is, why -- why can't we hear these half baked
liberals bromides from Howard Dean? Why do liberals always choose
spokesmen like the Jersey girls, like Cindy Sheehan, like Joe Wilson
who because of some personal aspect of their life we are not allowed to
respond to?
CARLSON: I absolutely agree. And to some limited extent, you see
it, you know, on both sides. John McCain, nobody is questioning him on
matters of war, for instance. But no, I get your point and I agree with
it completely.
COULTER: I don't think [inaudible] compares to McCain at all, and
I'm not a fan of McCain's.
CARLSON: Maybe it doesn't. But I want to just focus in on this
reoccurring problem that I think you have. I read a lot of your book,
300 pages long. I think a lot of it's reasonable. It's very smart. I
agree with the vast majority of it.
The headline tomorrow, however, will be confined to your exchange
with Matt Lauer and that single sentence about the widows enjoying
their husband's deaths so much. And people who know people who perished
on 9/11 or average Americans are going to think Ann Coulter is a whack
job and a bad person, and I'm not buying her book. And I'm not
listening to her ideas.
Isn't that self-defeating to say things like that?
COULTER: I guess we'll see by my book sales. I don't think they
will say that. If people are going to use personal a tragedy in their
lives to inject themselves into a national debate, I'm sorry. You can't
just say, "We're off limits. Oh, now we're going to invoke the fact
that our husbands died and you can't criticize us."
They were specifically using their husband's death and there were
hundreds in fact thousands of widows.
CARLSON: It doesn't mean they were enjoying it. Their husband's
gone, and their kids are there and geez, it's depressing.
COULTER: And so are the thousands of widows who are not cutting
campaign commercials for Clinton. These women got paid. They ought to
take their money and shut up about it.
If they want to take about something else, that's fine. But no,
people going out and citing some family tragedy so that they can give
us what Howard Dean could have given us, what Hillary Clinton could
have given to us. But then saying, "Oh, but you can't respond."
CARLSON: This is a liberal talking point, but there is an element
of truth to it, and it's this. The president himself has leveraged 9/11
in ways that are legitimate and also in ways that are vulgar, in my
view. The 2004 Republican convention, doubtless, you were there. I was
there.
It was using -- that whole convention was using 9/11 to political
effect. And as someone who was sympathetic to most Republican ideas, I
was terribly offended by that. Were you offended?
COULTER: Well, you might be offended. It has absolutely nothing to
do with what I'm talking about. He is the president. He is in charge of
the executive branch. He is the commander in chief.
CARLSON: But Rudy Giuliani did it. The whole Republican Party does
it.
COULTER: It is his job. Yes, and that was their job. You think FDR
didn't run on the war? That's their job.
CARLSON: Of course, he did. But he also interned
Japanese-Americans. I mean --
COULTER: Bush was not saying I knew somebody who died.
CARLSON: Right. Right.
COULTER: That's completely different. To invoke your personal
experience. And liberals do that all the time in order to shut down the
debate, and it's an ugly part of American politics.
CARLSON: I do think that this president and his party have used
9/11 in a similar way to shut down debate, particularly in the early
days of the Iraq war. And the notion was if you're opposed to the Iraq
war or even have hard questions about it, then, I don't know, you
wouldn't mind another 9/11. And that offended me as someone who did
have, as a traditional conservative, a real conservative, who had
questions about the war in Iraq.
COULTER: I've got to say, I don't see the connection at all. The
president arguing about what his response to the war on terrorism is
going to be is not the same as weeping widows using their husband's
death to inject themselves into the national debate and demand that we
listen to them out of pity.
-R.D.
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Victim-Envy
Sigh.
o - chasingmoksha / Wednesday June 7, 2006 10:19:43 PM EST
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Queen of Evil
I just can not believe that someone like her, is filled with that
much hate.
o - azapache / Wednesday June 7, 2006 10:22:33 PM EST
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I can't believe
republicans claiming they would reign her in if she got out of
line. Like they did when Rush called Chelsea the family dog. Flys have
longer lifespans than republican self condemnation.
P.S. why is personal experience an "ugly part" of debate? If I
come in saying "I tried that, what are you going to change to get a
different result" ugly?
o - snoopy / Wednesday June 7, 2006 10:32:40 PM EST
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I just can't fathom
how someone like her is even considered to be legitimate. She is
a quack job yet the media treats her like she is a credible
commentator. If she is meant to be shocking and provoking then she
needs to be calisfied with the other nut cases. Not on TV talk shows
that lend her baseless nonense legitimacy. I want just one of these
hosts to ask her if she incluses all the 911 widows in her hate (How
about the ones that campaigned for Bush and spoke at the Convention) or
is just the ones that are against her precious President.
o - dottiemae / Wednesday June 7, 2006 10:39:08 PM EST
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Big Eddy shut the door in her face...
I was listening to Ed Schultz yesterday. He said he had
received a request for Ann Coulter to appear on his how.
Big Eddy, bless his heart, did us proud.
Ed Schultz is one guy you can thank for withdrawing the
'welcome' sign.
Here's a link to the mp3 (12.5MB), scroll to 7:45 to hear
him address the prospect of having Ann Coulter on his show:
[link to audio.wegoted.com]
+ - pete592 / Thursday June 8, 2006 11:27:52 AM EST
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Which party is supposed to be the "angry" party?
I forget.
o - skiploader1111 / Wednesday June 7, 2006 10:47:39 PM EST
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You want to ignore her
she's so obviously starved for attention,and deliberately
over-the-top, talking about her is like acknowledging the brat kid
throwing a tantrum..
Problem is, I meet real live humans who consider her a "political
commentator'.Peoplw with jobs and families, actually nice,decent
people.
I guess fear and paranoia can override intellect and compassion
pretty easily.
Mann Coulter reminds me of this guy Wally George who was on the
tube here in SoCal when I was a kid. He had a little cable show out of
a studio by Disneyland, but aside from a couple of senile old geezers,
I think everybody got that he was a joke.
That's when I thought the election of Reagan was a fluke, or a
last gasp of the people who thought the world was just movin too darn
fast!
Can anyone tell me who is allowed to disagree with the GOP
anymore?
If your son died, and you question, you're exploiting.
If you didn't serve in the military, you're a hippy and don't
know anything.
If you did serve, and criticize, you're a traitor.
If nobody you knew died in the war, and you disagree, you're
defaming the people who did die, and their families.
If our country doesn't wise up, and keeps voting Repub, do you
think even the people who voted Repub will be surprised when they're
not allowed to talk?
And if there really is a God, how much would you pay to have a
ringside seat when Ann Coulter meets him?
o - HuntingtonBeachLefty / Wednesday June 7, 2006 10:55:06 PM
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And if there really is a God, how much would you pay to
have a ringside seat when Ann Coulter meets him?
not that much, but it sure would be fun standing behind her
when God tells her to go to h-e-double toothpicks!
+ - snoopy / Wednesday June 7, 2006 11:02:52 PM EST
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I would pay good money
to see alot of these hypocrites turned away from the
pearlly gates. I would then pop a cork and celebrate with Saint Peter.
+ - dottiemae / Wednesday June 7, 2006 11:13:57 PM EST
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David Brock: Former friend of Ann Coulter?
I seem to remember David writing about Ann in his book Blinded By
the Right. I would love to hear what he thinks about the latest news.
Great website! I am so glad David is still working to reveal the dirty
little secrets of the right.
Daniel
o - secret.smoker / Wednesday June 7, 2006 11:42:54 PM EST
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HuntingtonBeachLefty
You bring up good points. I want to add that I find it obscene
that people such as her (pro-war book writers), right wing talk show
hosts, and many country music artists, exploit the deaths of our
soldiers, and the 9/11 victims--but somehow it is okay because they
agree with the war. And anyone who doesn't jump into their parade is
unpatriotic.
I think it was Upton Sinclair who wrote--"When Fascism comes to
the United States, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a
cross." Scary isn't it?
o - therick / Wednesday June 7, 2006 11:45:27 PM EST
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When did Ann become "religious"?
Did she even mention religion before it became a requirement for
right-thinking republicans to base everything on the bible?
She's a psychopath, and I'm sure she doesn't give a damn about
anything except making sure she can rake in the big bucks by pandering
to the bigots.
o - fawltylogic / Wednesday June 7, 2006 11:46:54 PM EST
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Is she missing brain matter, or is she just an ignorant *****?
Its so fun watching her self destruct. This media pigs 15 minutes
of fame is long overdue for an end.....
o - editor / Thursday June 8, 2006 12:30:07 AM EST
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Coulter's Dead End
Ann Coulter is trapped in her own bomb-throwing persona. She has
to say outrageous things to get attention, but it's the wrong kind of
attention. She's not a great thinker, and can be tripped up by even the
simplest facts--no Ann, Canada didn't send troops to Vietnam. When she
rattles off her brainless spiel I'm reminded of Orwell's term,
"duckspeak," to quack like a duck. Ironically, her criticism of the
9/11 widows hits close to home, since Coulter doesn't feel that she
should be challenged, no matter what transgressions she's guilty of.
She had a hissy fit in print some years ago when the Connecticutt
Libertarian Party refused to allow her to take on Republican
Congressman Christopher Shays as their candidate because they realized
that she was no Libertarian and would use their party like a piece of
kleenex. Her Two Minutes Hate screed against the Libertarians could be
summarized in two words, "I deserve!" The Libertarians congratulated
themselves on having dodged a bullet.
o - guy montag / Thursday June 8, 2006 01:14:29 AM EST
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Coulter Thinks Jesus would do ?
As we have all heard the stories as children when our parents
attempt to "brainwash" us into their religion. Jesus is about peace,
love thy neighbor, turn the other cheek, do onto others as you would
have them do onto you, forgiveness, compassion and all that is good. I
guess she thinks Jesus would agree with the war, the reasons for war
and the killing of so many human life. Jesus didn't care about your
color, if you had oil or not. jesus loved all and wouldn't agree with
this war, the tortue, murder, and continued lies by the white house. i
am not sure what god speaks to her and bush but it is not the jesus we
learned of as children. obviously, they use religion in an attempt to
get attention from those types as most educated individuals wouldn't
give her the time of day. What would jesus do, or allah or mirthra or
krishna or whatever god you believe in do?
o - slunderman / Thursday June 8, 2006 01:56:23 AM EST
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Say Dave, that's a great idea!
I just heard David Letterman suggest that because Ann is a
good-looking blonde and is single, maybe someone should introduce her
to O.J.
o - draftedin68 / Thursday June 8, 2006 02:50:15 AM EST
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All crazy Annie is
is a noisemaker/distraction. She serves to distract the
reasonable-thinking public from debating serious issues such as the
war, health care, and immigration . . .
Notice how she seems to just pop up out of the blue every so
often to say something completely outrageous? A mere distraction.
We on this forum constantly wonder why the supposedly mainstream
conservatives and/or those on the right in power {i.e., the White House
& Congress} never openly condemn her . . . they won't because she's
their not-so-secret weapon; she says out loud what they can only think,
and helps detract from any criticism of them . . .
We wonder if she truly believes in her heart of hearts - if she
has one - the more outrageous, divisive, and hateful things she says .
.. . the answer is its beside the point whether or not she actually
believes them; she relishes her role as a well paid right wing attack
dog - as long as it pays well and keeps her face in the news, her
personal beliefs don't matter . . .
o - mjh / Thursday June 8, 2006 03:24:10 AM EST
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It's hard to believe that Crazy Annie would claim to be a
christian.
It's a bad religious fit, considering that she appears to be the
reincarnated spirit of Adolph hitler.
o - mescal / Thursday June 8, 2006 03:50:35 AM EST
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I have to say......
That Tucker Carlson was right. I watched some of the Rupublican
convention here in the UK and everything from the location, set design,
faux democrats who spoke for Bush, and one campaign video with a little
girl who was in the video BECAUSE SHE LOST HER FATHER ON 9/11 was used
to politicize the campaign and run on the tragedy.
Maybe someone should ask her which is more important to her
supposed Christian values, Exodus 20: 2-17 or Matthew 5: 3-12. And
while they are at it, ask her what part of the New testament she is
talking about when she mentions the "Moneychangers bit" which she says
is her (and Sean Hannity's) favorite bit.
o - ukobserver / Thursday June 8, 2006 04:34:15 AM EST
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The shrinks call it "PROJECTION":
Ann says, ""I think the syphilis has gone to their brains."
o - tex / Thursday June 8, 2006 06:53:09 AM EST
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wrote:
http://mediamatters.org/items/200606080002
Coulter continued attacks on liberals, families of 9-11 victims: "[D]o
I have to kill my mother so I can be a victim, too?"
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The money's in controversy these days. Reacting to her with anything
other than amusement just validates her philosophy.
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09 Jun 2006 06:14:34 AM |
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On Fri, 09 Jun 2006 00:19:04 -0500, James <shiv@spamblock.com> wrote:
oldopinions@aol.com wrote:
http://mediamatters.org/items/200606080002
Coulter continued attacks on liberals, families of 9-11 victims: "[D]o
I have to kill my mother so I can be a victim, too?"
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The money's in controversy these days. Reacting to her with anything
other than amusement just validates her philosophy.
She's as amusing as Joseph Goebbels.
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"O Sybilli, si ergo
Fortibus es in ero
O Nobili! Themis trux
Sivat sinem? Causen Dux"
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08 Jun 2006 05:23:59 PM |
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In article <1149781655.798668.42350@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
north_korean_tourist_board@yahoo.com says...
http://mediamatters.org/items/200606080002
Coulter continued attacks on liberals, families of 9-11 victims: "[D]o
I have to kill my mother so I can be a victim, too?"
No, she already plays the victim enough without all that. She is
always claiming to be victimized by liberals, like the 911 widows,
who had the temerity to complain that their husbands were killed on
that day. OTOH, she doesn't care when Bush and Rove exploit the
same tragedy for their own political and economic gain.
Summary: While promoting her new book on Hannity & Colmes and The
Situation with Tucker Carlson, right-wing pundit Ann Coulter continued
to bash both liberals and family members of victims of the September
11, 2001 terrorist attacks. Coulter asserted that Jesus would say that
"we are called upon to do battle"
You mean like when he said "turn the other cheek", or when he
admonished his followers not to fight against those who came to
arrest him. Yeah, jesus had violent outbursts, but it's not clear
that this was part of any sublime message. If her goal it to be a
bigger ***** than jesus then she has succeeded beyond her wildest
dreams.
on liberalism. In criticizing family
members of 9-11 victims, Coulter asked: "[D]o I have to kill my mother
so I can be a victim, too?"
How would she be a victim if *she* killed her mother? She'd be the
victimizer. In any event, if she were right then liberals would
forgive her and set her free, so why doesn't she go ahead and try it
and see what happens.
While promoting her new book Godless: The Church of Liberalism (Crown
Forum, June 2006) on the June 6 editions of Fox News' Hannity & Colmes
and MSNBC's The Situation with Tucker Carlson, right-wing pundit Ann
Coulter continued to bash both liberals and family members of victims
of the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks. Coulter asserted that
Jesus would say that "we are called upon to do battle"
Where precisely? There might be some passages from Revelation,
which was written far after the fact, but that would be after the
second coming. Her reference to the money changers falls flat,
because he did not encourage his followers to join in. mAnn Coulter
makes a lousy theologian.
on liberalism.
In criticizing family members of 9-11 victims, Coulter asked: "[D]o I
have to kill my mother so I can be a victim, too?"
Hannity & Colmes
When asked by Hannity & Colmes co-host Alan Colmes whether "Jesus
[would] sanction a book that belittles and ridicules a large segment of
the American population," Coulter replied, "Yes." In defense of her
claim, Coulter cited the "money-changers passage" as evidence, stating
that "liberals always think of Christ as, you know, some pantywaist.
No, pantywaists actually exist.
No. We are called upon to do battle." Coulter also stated that "the
general compulsion of liberals [is] to free criminals,"
If that were the case then people who committed voter fraud like her
have nothng to worry about.
and explained
her theory of how the liberal "religion" has used its "obsession with
Darwinism" to "replace[] sanctification of life with sanctification of
sex and death":
First off, human life can't naturally arise without sex, so it's
funny that she thinks that she can revere life while hating sex.
Secondly, if the goal is to have sex, then death would be the last
thing one would want. Furthermore, mAnn Coulter doesn't think life
is sanctified, since she supports war and capital punishment and
pretty much the killing of anyone who is not an xian. Anyway, once
one converts to xianity, her religion says that it's okay for these
people to die. Her whole religion is a death cult, built upon the
bloody and violent torture of their imaginary, self-proclaimed
messiah.
COULTER: Well, it is an entire cosmology, a view of the world,
beliefs in the supernatural. I do think, something I don't get to until
the end of the book, that at the root of the lot of it is -- is their
obsession with Darwinism and the Darwinian view of the world, which
replaces sanctification of life with sanctification of sex and death.
Sex and death. That's how you get improvement in the species.
Except that this is a horrendous misreading of "Darwinism".
Firstly, death is not at all a "goal" of evolution, nor would death
do anything to improve the species. It's true that if an animal
dies that it leaves more resources of others, but this has nothing
to do with "Darwinism". That's just the reality that all animals
have to eat. As to reproduction, there are R and K strategies.
Having large or small numbers of offspring respectively. It's not
necessarily the case that large amounts of sex are necessary for a
competitive advantage. In fact, it is typical, in the wild for the
dominant male to keep his own harem and to prevent anyone else from
passing on their inferior genes. So, in fact, high amounts of sex
is not necessarily advantageous, at least for most members of the
species, contrary to her ridiculous and amateurish assertions.
--
"Faith, indeed, has up to the present not been
able to move real mountains ... But it can put
mountains where there are none." -- Nietzsche
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On 8 Jun 2006 08:47:35 -0700, "oldopinions@aol.com"
<north_korean_tourist_board@yahoo.com> wrote:
COULTER: Yes, and the general compulsion of liberals to free
criminals.
Someone whose deity was executed as a criminal might be expected to be
a bit more understanding...
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"O Sybilli, si ergo
Fortibus es in ero
O Nobili! Themis trux
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08 Jun 2006 01:27:44 PM |
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Previously, on alt.atheism, in episode
<1149781655.798668.42350@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>...
During her interview with host Tucker Carlson -- who claimed the new book
is "reasonable; it's very smart"
Well, like Jon Stewart said, Carlson's a *****.
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Mark K. Bilbo
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