Religions > Atheism > Court Forces Michigan High School to Give Bible Club Same Benefits as Gay Club
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Court Forces Michigan High School to Give Bible Club Same Benefits as Gay Club |
Notice the omission of the ACLU from this article.
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2007/sep/07091203.html
Court Forces Michigan High School to Give Bible Club Same Benefits as
Gay Club
FARMINGTON, September 12, 2007 (LifeSiteNews.com) - The Thomas More
Law Center, a national public interest law firm today announced that
United States District Judge Victoria A. Roberts has entered a
permanent injunction granting equal rights to a Bible club and its
members at Farmington High School in Farmington, Michigan.
The Law Center represents ALIVE, a voluntary student Bible club, its
president and co-founder, Aaron Grider, and his parents. In 2006,
Grider had requested that ALIVE be recognized by the school as a
noncurriculum-related student group and receive the same treatment and
benefits that other noncurriculum-related student groups receive at
Farmington High School. In the past, Farmington High School has
recognized several noncurriculum-related student groups, including the
Gay Straight Alliance, R.E.A.C.H. (a diversity club), and S.A.D.D.
(Students Against Drunk Driving).
School officials denied Aaron's request. Unlike recognized
noncurriculum-related student clubs, school officials allowed ALIVE to
meet informally before school, but did not allow ALIVE to advertise
over the school's public address system, on the school's bulletin
boards, on the school's website, in the school's yearbook, or over the
school's internal television network, and they did not allow the club
to use the school's photocopying machines.
The Law Center filed a lawsuit in federal court in Detroit, Michigan,
and raised claims that school officials had violated plaintiffs'
rights under the Federal Equal Access Act, the Michigan Equal Access
Act, and the federal constitution.
Before the start of the school year, which began on September 4, 2007,
plaintiffs filed motions seeking a court injunction to ensure that
ALIVE and its members would be treated the same as other noncurriculum-
related groups are treated at Farmington High School. Last week, Judge
Roberts issued a permanent injunction in favor of plaintiffs and
required school officials to provide ALIVE the same benefits,
treatment, and privileges enjoyed by other noncurriculum-related
student clubs.
According to Richard Thompson, President and Chief Counsel of the
Thomas More Law Center, "The judge's order should highlight to all
school officials in Michigan and in other states that once a public
high school allows one noncurriculum-related student club to meet on
campus, they cannot discriminate against a Bible club. A Bible club
must be permitted the same rights as other student clubs."
Judge Roberts determined that plaintiffs were likely to succeed on the
merits of their claims under the Federal and Michigan Equal Access
Acts, and, therefore, she did not need to consider the constitutional
claims. Judge Roberts stated that "it appears clear that ALIVE has
been treated differently than other student groups 'on the basis of'
the religious content of their speech."
Judge Roberts also determined that because plaintiffs have been denied
equal access to the school in violation of the Federal Equal Access
Act, based on plaintiffs' religious viewpoint since at least October
2006, that the plaintiffs would be irreparably harmed this school year
without an injunction to ensure that their rights as a club are
protected.
Commented Edward L. White III, trial counsel for the Thomas More Law
Center handling the case: "Judge Roberts's permanent injunction will
protect the rights of ALIVE and its members this school year and
thereafter. These students will be able to enjoy all the benefits
that other noncurriculum-related student clubs enjoy at Farmington
High School."
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15 Sep 2007 01:11:46 PM |
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Osprey <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"No One" <noone@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote in message
"David W. Barnes" <davbarnes@gmail.com> writes:
He is all excuses. His carelessness also got him in trouble at work.
If he had been forthcoming, instead of making excuses and trying the
blame two others, (one of whom was not even there at the time) he might
not have been reprimanded.
How was he reprimanded?
Thank you!
Finally, someone asked.
Fact:
I was never reprimanded for anything No One.
Fact:
Robert Heishman is a habitual and regular liar and seldom more so than
when he tries to inflate his accomplishments or excuse his screwups.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Osprey" |
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15 Sep 2007 01:17:35 PM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:46ec2062$0$14080$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
Osprey <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"No One" <noone@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote in message
"David W. Barnes" <davbarnes@gmail.com> writes:
He is all excuses. His carelessness also got him in trouble at work.
If he had been forthcoming, instead of making excuses and trying the
blame two others, (one of whom was not even there at the time) he might
not have been reprimanded.
How was he reprimanded?
Thank you!
Finally, someone asked.
Fact:
I was never reprimanded for anything No One.
Fact:
Robert Heishman is a habitual and regular liar and seldom more so than
when he tries to inflate his accomplishments or excuse his screwups.
If you can provide proof for Barnes claims, it would be a miracle!!!
Come on Fischer, you can perform this miracle can't you?
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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15 Sep 2007 02:59:28 PM |
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Osprey <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
Osprey <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"No One" <noone@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote in message
"David W. Barnes" <davbarnes@gmail.com> writes:
He is all excuses. His carelessness also got him in trouble at work.
If he had been forthcoming, instead of making excuses and trying the
blame two others, (one of whom was not even there at the time) he might
not have been reprimanded.
How was he reprimanded?
Thank you!
Finally, someone asked.
Fact:
I was never reprimanded for anything No One.
Fact:
Robert Heishman is a habitual and regular liar and seldom more so than
when he tries to inflate his accomplishments or excuse his screwups.
If you can provide proof for Barnes claims,
*****, obviously you're not smart enough to understand.
You are the liar so YOU are the one that needs to provide the proof.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "osprey" |
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16 Sep 2007 01:06:07 AM |
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On Sep 15, 3:59 pm, (Ray Fischer) wrote:
Osprey <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" < > wrote in message
Osprey <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
"No One" <no...@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote in message
"David W. Barnes" <davbar...@gmail.com> writes:
He is all excuses. His carelessness also got him in trouble at work.
If he had been forthcoming, instead of making excuses and trying the
blame two others, (one of whom was not even there at the time) he might
not have been reprimanded.
How was he reprimanded?
Thank you!
Finally, someone asked.
Fact:
I was never reprimanded for anything No One.
Fact:
Robert Heishman is a habitual and regular liar and seldom more so than
when he tries to inflate his accomplishments or excuse his screwups.
If you can provide proof for Barnes claims,
*****, obviously you're not smart enough to understand.
I understand perfectly well.
a) He has made specific claims
b) He has failed to support those claims
Now, if you wish to believe those claims it's on you. You're too much
of a coward though to take a position, and I think deep down inside
you know he is lying..but you can't admit that. You would be going
against a fellow liberal...and you have that hidden code and all.
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| User: "Sharon Scharf" |
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16 Sep 2007 01:42:17 AM |
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On Sep 16, 2:06?am, osprey <noneedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
On Sep 15, 3:59 pm, (Ray Fischer) wrote:
Osprey <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" < > wrote in message
Osprey <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
"No One" <no...@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote in message
"David W. Barnes" <davbar...@gmail.com> writes:
He is all excuses. His carelessness also got him in trouble at work.
If he had been forthcoming, instead of making excuses and trying the
blame two others, (one of whom was not even there at the time) he might
not have been reprimanded.
How was he reprimanded?
Thank you!
Finally, someone asked.
Fact:
I was never reprimanded for anything No One.
Fact:
Robert Heishman is a habitual and regular liar and seldom more so than
when he tries to inflate his accomplishments or excuse his screwups.
If you can provide proof for Barnes claims,
*****, obviously you're not smart enough to understand.
I understand perfectly well.
a) He has made specific claims
b) He has failed to support those claims
Now, if you wish to believe those claims it's on you. You're too much
of a coward though to take a position, and I think deep down inside
you know he is lying..but you can't admit that. You would be going
against a fellow liberal...and you have that hidden code and all.
Hello, my name is Sharon Scharf, ScottyFLL's mother. Let me start
by stating that Scotty is a liar and has been since childhood. We
tried to punish him, Scotty's father stuck his ***** in his mouth
many times to stop the lies but it was useless. Scotty was a
problem child. Maybe it is because i am bisexual with an
emphasis on the lesbian side, but who knows? Scotty is very
shy and afraid to show his face because as you probably know,
he isn't very good looking but i am not embarrassed. Here is my
picture
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/8555/0006photokp2.jpg
I am a part time prostitute and will service your cream stick
for a nominal fee. If interested email me at this address.
sharonsch...@sanfranmail.com
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| User: "Tom S." |
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16 Sep 2007 08:10:20 AM |
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On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 23:42:17 -0700, Sharon Scharf
<sharonscharf@sanfranmail.com> wrote:
<snip>
Hello, my name is Sharon Scharf, ScottyFLL's mother. Let me start
by stating that Scotty is a liar and has been since childhood. We
tried to punish him, Scotty's father stuck his ***** in his mouth
many times to stop the lies but it was useless. Scotty was a
problem child. Maybe it is because i am bisexual with an
emphasis on the lesbian side, but who knows? Scotty is very
shy and afraid to show his face because as you probably know,
he isn't very good looking but i am not embarrassed. Here is my
picture
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/8555/0006photokp2.jpg
I am a part time prostitute and will service your cream stick
for a nominal fee. If interested email me at this address.
GayBlob strikes again. And, as usual, misses.
Tom S.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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16 Sep 2007 12:36:55 PM |
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osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
On Sep 15, 3:59 pm, (Ray Fischer) wrote:
Osprey <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" < > wrote in message
Osprey <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
"No One" <no...@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote in message
"David W. Barnes" <davbar...@gmail.com> writes:
He is all excuses. His carelessness also got him in trouble at work.
If he had been forthcoming, instead of making excuses and trying the
blame two others, (one of whom was not even there at the time) he might
not have been reprimanded.
How was he reprimanded?
Thank you!
Finally, someone asked.
Fact:
I was never reprimanded for anything No One.
Fact:
Robert Heishman is a habitual and regular liar and seldom more so than
when he tries to inflate his accomplishments or excuse his screwups.
If you can provide proof for Barnes claims,
*****, obviously you're not smart enough to understand.
I understand perfectly well.
No, you don't.
a) He has made specific claims
b) He has failed to support those claims
You are the liar so YOU are the one that needs to provide the proof.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Osprey" |
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16 Sep 2007 01:07:55 PM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:46ed69b7$0$14094$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
On Sep 15, 3:59 pm, (Ray Fischer) wrote:
Osprey <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" < > wrote in message
Osprey <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
"No One" <no...@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote in message
"David W. Barnes" <davbar...@gmail.com> writes:
He is all excuses. His carelessness also got him in trouble at
work.
If he had been forthcoming, instead of making excuses and trying
the
blame two others, (one of whom was not even there at the time) he
might
not have been reprimanded.
How was he reprimanded?
Thank you!
Finally, someone asked.
Fact:
I was never reprimanded for anything No One.
Fact:
Robert Heishman is a habitual and regular liar and seldom more so
than
when he tries to inflate his accomplishments or excuse his screwups.
If you can provide proof for Barnes claims,
*****, obviously you're not smart enough to understand.
I understand perfectly well.
No, you don't.
a) He has made specific claims
b) He has failed to support those claims
You are the liar so YOU are the one that needs to provide the proof.
So using YOUR theory, anyone can make any claim..and it's up to you to prove
it true or not.
O.k. Fischer...if I claimed that you murdered someone and you need to be
thrown in jail.
That's all I need to do...now, you must prove you didn't.
It's a good thing you don't have anything to do with our judicial system.
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| User: "Free Lunch" |
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16 Sep 2007 01:11:47 PM |
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On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 14:07:55 -0400, in alt.atheism
"Osprey" <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in
<to2dnQHKqo5j7XDbnZ2dnUVZ_qainZ2d@comcast.com>:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:46ed69b7$0$14094$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
On Sep 15, 3:59 pm, (Ray Fischer) wrote:
Osprey <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" < > wrote in message
Osprey <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
"No One" <no...@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote in message
"David W. Barnes" <davbar...@gmail.com> writes:
He is all excuses. His carelessness also got him in trouble at
work.
If he had been forthcoming, instead of making excuses and trying
the
blame two others, (one of whom was not even there at the time) he
might
not have been reprimanded.
How was he reprimanded?
Thank you!
Finally, someone asked.
Fact:
I was never reprimanded for anything No One.
Fact:
Robert Heishman is a habitual and regular liar and seldom more so
than
when he tries to inflate his accomplishments or excuse his screwups.
If you can provide proof for Barnes claims,
*****, obviously you're not smart enough to understand.
I understand perfectly well.
No, you don't.
a) He has made specific claims
b) He has failed to support those claims
You are the liar so YOU are the one that needs to provide the proof.
So using YOUR theory, anyone can make any claim..and it's up to you to prove
it true or not.
You misunderstood that. It's up to the person who makes the claim to
provide the supporting evidence.
O.k. Fischer...if I claimed that you murdered someone and you need to be
thrown in jail.
That's all I need to do...now, you must prove you didn't.
No, it's your job to offer evidence to support your claim.
It's a good thing you don't have anything to do with our judicial system.
You have no idea what you are talking about.
Get back to us when you have evidence to support your claims.
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| User: "Osprey" |
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16 Sep 2007 01:19:04 PM |
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"Free Lunch" <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message
news:1csqe3p9vddi0g1tqhqt12ub537ni7sans@4ax.com...
On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 14:07:55 -0400, in alt.atheism
"Osprey" <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in
<to2dnQHKqo5j7XDbnZ2dnUVZ_qainZ2d@comcast.com>:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:46ed69b7$0$14094$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
On Sep 15, 3:59 pm, (Ray Fischer) wrote:
Osprey <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" < > wrote in message
Osprey <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
"No One" <no...@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote in message
"David W. Barnes" <davbar...@gmail.com> writes:
He is all excuses. His carelessness also got him in trouble at
work.
If he had been forthcoming, instead of making excuses and trying
the
blame two others, (one of whom was not even there at the time)
he
might
not have been reprimanded.
How was he reprimanded?
Thank you!
Finally, someone asked.
Fact:
I was never reprimanded for anything No One.
Fact:
Robert Heishman is a habitual and regular liar and seldom more so
than
when he tries to inflate his accomplishments or excuse his
screwups.
If you can provide proof for Barnes claims,
*****, obviously you're not smart enough to understand.
I understand perfectly well.
No, you don't.
a) He has made specific claims
b) He has failed to support those claims
You are the liar so YOU are the one that needs to provide the proof.
So using YOUR theory, anyone can make any claim..and it's up to you to
prove
it true or not.
You misunderstood that. It's up to the person who makes the claim to
provide the supporting evidence.
Thats right, and Barnes has been asked to do that with ALL of his claims and
he has totally failed to do so.
O.k. Fischer...if I claimed that you murdered someone and you need to be
thrown in jail.
That's all I need to do...now, you must prove you didn't.
No, it's your job to offer evidence to support your claim.
I'm not the one making the claim...pay attention.
Barnes is making the claims that I was
a) Ever reprimanded
b) Live in a trailer park
c) applied for some sheriff's position and was supposably declined.
d) that my father and I both went bankrupt
e) that I sent him some type of an e-mail
There is a large list of his unsupported claims, and he has failed to
support any one of them, ever.
Yet, he continues to say them..he continues to avoid supplying evidence, and
he continues to claim he did prove them but he can't ever show where he has.
He can't..they are lies.
And of course the liberal side in this newsgroup continues to fail to ask
him to support his claims.
Isn't that odd???
Why would the liberals ignore something like that?
It's a good thing you don't have anything to do with our judicial system.
You have no idea what you are talking about.
Get back to us when you have evidence to support your claims.
You need to follow along as to what is happening and read who is making the
claims.
Get back to us when you can catch up.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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16 Sep 2007 02:36:22 PM |
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Osprey <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
Osprey <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfisc...@sonic.net> wrote in message
Osprey <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
"No One" <no...@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote in message
"David W. Barnes" <davbar...@gmail.com> writes:
He is all excuses. His carelessness also got him in trouble at
work.
If he had been forthcoming, instead of making excuses and trying
the
blame two others, (one of whom was not even there at the time) he
might
not have been reprimanded.
How was he reprimanded?
Thank you!
Finally, someone asked.
Fact:
I was never reprimanded for anything No One.
Fact:
Robert Heishman is a habitual and regular liar and seldom more so
than
when he tries to inflate his accomplishments or excuse his screwups.
If you can provide proof for Barnes claims,
*****, obviously you're not smart enough to understand.
I understand perfectly well.
No, you don't.
a) He has made specific claims
b) He has failed to support those claims
You are the liar so YOU are the one that needs to provide the proof.
So using YOUR theory, anyone can make any claim..and it's up to you to prove
it true or not.
No, dumbshit, YOU are the liar. YOU, Robert "*****" Heishman, are a
liar. You lie about others, you lie about yourself, you lie about the
facts. Now that means that YOU have to provide the proof because
everybody knows that your word cannot be trusted.
You have earned your reputation as a dishonest moron and now you have
to live with the consequences.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Osprey" |
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16 Sep 2007 03:52:21 PM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:46ed85b6$0$14106$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
Osprey <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
Osprey <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfisc...@sonic.net> wrote in message
Osprey <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
"No One" <no...@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote in message
"David W. Barnes" <davbar...@gmail.com> writes:
He is all excuses. His carelessness also got him in trouble at
work.
If he had been forthcoming, instead of making excuses and trying
the
blame two others, (one of whom was not even there at the time)
he
might
not have been reprimanded.
How was he reprimanded?
Thank you!
Finally, someone asked.
Fact:
I was never reprimanded for anything No One.
Fact:
Robert Heishman is a habitual and regular liar and seldom more so
than
when he tries to inflate his accomplishments or excuse his
screwups.
If you can provide proof for Barnes claims,
*****, obviously you're not smart enough to understand.
I understand perfectly well.
No, you don't.
a) He has made specific claims
b) He has failed to support those claims
You are the liar so YOU are the one that needs to provide the proof.
So using YOUR theory, anyone can make any claim..and it's up to you to
prove
it true or not.
No, dumbshit, YOU are the liar. YOU, Robert "*****" Heishman, are a
liar. You lie about others, you lie about yourself, you lie about the
facts. Now that means that YOU have to provide the proof because
everybody knows that your word cannot be trusted.
You have earned your reputation as a dishonest moron and now you have
to live with the consequences.
Waa..waa..waa
Then you really don't need to respond to me at all do you?
Yet, you do.
Liberals support other liberals who lie. That's a proven fact
Liberals never ask other liberals to support their claims. That too..is a
proven fact.
You can run along now.
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| User: "Tom S." |
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16 Sep 2007 06:03:21 PM |
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On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 16:52:21 -0400, "Osprey" <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
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Liberals support other liberals who lie. That's a proven fact
Liberals never ask other liberals to support their claims. That too..is a
proven fact.
And conservatives just leave each other slowly turning in the wind. At
least in your case. And that is a proven fact.
Tom S.
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| User: "Osprey" |
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16 Sep 2007 06:28:47 PM |
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"Tom S." <tscalfjr@cox.net> wrote in message
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On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 16:52:21 -0400, "Osprey" <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
<snip>
Liberals support other liberals who lie. That's a proven fact
Liberals never ask other liberals to support their claims. That too..is a
proven fact.
And conservatives just leave each other slowly turning in the wind. At
least in your case. And that is a proven fact.
Are you still whining boy?
It's been proven you ignore liberals who lie, and you certainly don't seek
facts.
That's a proven fact boy.
Hey, your bud Barnes is back, you can share unsupported claims
together...that's your style.
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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16 Sep 2007 07:03:19 PM |
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In article <U8ydnToqM7GvIXDbnZ2dnUVZ_ommnZ2d@comcast.com>, Osprey
<NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Tom S." <tscalfjr@cox.net> wrote in message
news:eddre319mhenvst584gkfpunm07g1pln0v@4ax.com...
On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 16:52:21 -0400, "Osprey" <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
<snip>
Liberals support other liberals who lie. That's a proven fact
Liberals never ask other liberals to support their claims. That too..is a
proven fact.
And conservatives just leave each other slowly turning in the wind. At
least in your case. And that is a proven fact.
Are you still whining boy?
Gee, Osprey. You are really getting your ***** kicked today.
It's been proven you ignore liberals who lie, and you certainly don't seek
facts.
"It's been proven?" Is that what they taught you in college? The word
is "its," you moron.
That's a proven fact boy.
You think YOU denying something means it's [sic] been proven.
Hey, your bud Barnes is back, you can share unsupported claims
together...that's your style.
Hey! From what I've seen Tom can handle you without any help. (But,
that is like saying Tom can reel in a sunfish by himself.)
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| User: "Gwenyth Bennet" |
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| Title: Re: My apology to MarkA. |
17 Sep 2007 10:16:48 AM |
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On Sep 16, 6:28 pm, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
"Tom S." <tscal...@cox.net> wrote in message
news:eddre319mhenvst584gkfpunm07g1pln0v@4ax.com...
On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 16:52:21 -0400, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com>
wrote:
<snip>
Liberals support other liberals who lie. That's a proven fact
Liberals never ask other liberals to support their claims. That too..is a
proven fact.
And conservatives just leave each other slowly turning in the wind. At
least in your case. And that is a proven fact.
Are you still whining boy?
It's been proven you ignore liberals who lie, and you certainly don't seek
facts.
That's a proven fact boy.
Hey, your bud Barnes is back, you can share unsupported claims
together...that's your style.
Call anybody "coon," lately, lunatic?
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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16 Sep 2007 11:41:18 PM |
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On Sep 16, 7:28 pm, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
"Tom S." <tscal...@cox.net> wrote in message
And conservatives just leave each other slowly turning in the wind. At
least in your case. And that is a proven fact.
Are you still whining boy?
It's been proven you ignore liberals who lie
"Your statement is to be considered a lie until you
can prove it to be true."
"osprey" in <1161104485.981302.246...@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
since you did not prove your allegation, my your own words, your
statement is to be considered a lie.
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| User: "Tom S." |
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| Title: Re: My apology to MarkA. |
17 Sep 2007 09:45:58 PM |
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On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 19:28:47 -0400, "Osprey" <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
"Tom S." <tscalfjr@cox.net> wrote in message
news:eddre319mhenvst584gkfpunm07g1pln0v@4ax.com...
On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 16:52:21 -0400, "Osprey" <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
<snip>
Liberals support other liberals who lie. That's a proven fact
Liberals never ask other liberals to support their claims. That too..is a
proven fact.
And conservatives just leave each other slowly turning in the wind. At
least in your case. And that is a proven fact.
Are you still whining boy?
It's been proven you ignore liberals who lie, and you certainly don't seek
facts.
That's a proven fact boy.
Hey, your bud Barnes is back, you can share unsupported claims
together...that's your style.
I still don't see any conservatives coming to support you. Am I
missing any posts?
Tom S.
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| User: "osprey" |
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| Title: Re: My apology to MarkA. |
18 Sep 2007 12:20:27 AM |
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On Sep 17, 10:45 pm, Tom S. <tscal...@cox.net> wrote:
On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 19:28:47 -0400, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com>
wrote:
"Tom S." <tscal...@cox.net> wrote in message
news:eddre319mhenvst584gkfpunm07g1pln0v@4ax.com...
On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 16:52:21 -0400, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com>
wrote:
<snip>
Liberals support other liberals who lie. That's a proven fact
Liberals never ask other liberals to support their claims. That too..is a
proven fact.
And conservatives just leave each other slowly turning in the wind. At
least in your case. And that is a proven fact.
Are you still whining boy?
It's been proven you ignore liberals who lie, and you certainly don't seek
facts.
That's a proven fact boy.
Hey, your bud Barnes is back, you can share unsupported claims
together...that's your style.
I still don't see any conservatives coming to support you. Am I
missing any posts?
Seeing that I am probably one of a very FEW in here that come close to
being conservative (I am independent), it's easy to see why. I am out
numbered by at least 20 to 1, liberals being favored...so I expect
exactly what is happening in here.
I am in other newsgroups, you guys wouldn't get away with a third of
the crap you spew in here.
As I said, I have proven successfully the behavior displayed by
liberals..and you were a big help.
And to this day, you are still behaving just like I said a liberal
behaves.
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| User: "Tom S." |
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| Title: Re: My apology to MarkA. |
18 Sep 2007 06:12:24 PM |
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On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 22:20:27 -0700, osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
On Sep 17, 10:45 pm, Tom S. <tscal...@cox.net> wrote:
On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 19:28:47 -0400, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com>
wrote:
"Tom S." <tscal...@cox.net> wrote in message
news:eddre319mhenvst584gkfpunm07g1pln0v@4ax.com...
On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 16:52:21 -0400, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com>
wrote:
<snip>
Liberals support other liberals who lie. That's a proven fact
Liberals never ask other liberals to support their claims. That too..is a
proven fact.
And conservatives just leave each other slowly turning in the wind. At
least in your case. And that is a proven fact.
Are you still whining boy?
It's been proven you ignore liberals who lie, and you certainly don't seek
facts.
That's a proven fact boy.
Hey, your bud Barnes is back, you can share unsupported claims
together...that's your style.
I still don't see any conservatives coming to support you. Am I
missing any posts?
Seeing that I am probably one of a very FEW in here that come close to
being conservative (I am independent), it's easy to see why. I am out
numbered by at least 20 to 1, liberals being favored...so I expect
exactly what is happening in here.
Actually you are not one of the few conservatives here. It is about
evenly split, so you can stop feeling sorry for yourself. Wait! Maybe
you should start feeling sorry for yourself.... All your conservative
"friends" have left you slowly turning in the wind while we Middle of
the roaders and "liberals" take turns beating up on you.
I am in other newsgroups, you guys wouldn't get away with a third of
the crap you spew in here.
I am in other newsgroups too and you would have been laughed out of
them long ago, if you had the sense to leave.
As I said, I have proven successfully the behavior displayed by
liberals..and you were a big help.
You have proven nothing about "liberal behavior". What you have
proven, for the whole world to see, is that you have no talent for
research, analysis, debate, persuasion or intimidation, winning
friends, influencing people or cultivating fulfilling personal
relations.
And to this day, you are still behaving just like I said a liberal
behaves.
And you still haven't a clue as to why.
Tom S.
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: My apology to MarkA. |
18 Sep 2007 07:24:56 PM |
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"Tom S." <tscalfjr@cox.net> wrote in message
news:l7m0f3ln3tfk4muvpni7h6u6nbgk22iaib@4ax.com...
On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 22:20:27 -0700, osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
On Sep 17, 10:45 pm, Tom S. <tscal...@cox.net> wrote:
On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 19:28:47 -0400, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com>
wrote:
"Tom S." <tscal...@cox.net> wrote in message
news:eddre319mhenvst584gkfpunm07g1pln0v@4ax.com...
On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 16:52:21 -0400, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com>
wrote:
<snip>
Liberals support other liberals who lie. That's a proven fact
Liberals never ask other liberals to support their claims. That
too..is a
proven fact.
And conservatives just leave each other slowly turning in the wind.
At
least in your case. And that is a proven fact.
Are you still whining boy?
It's been proven you ignore liberals who lie, and you certainly don't
seek
facts.
That's a proven fact boy.
Hey, your bud Barnes is back, you can share unsupported claims
together...that's your style.
I still don't see any conservatives coming to support you. Am I
missing any posts?
Seeing that I am probably one of a very FEW in here that come close to
being conservative (I am independent), it's easy to see why. I am out
numbered by at least 20 to 1, liberals being favored...so I expect
exactly what is happening in here.
Actually you are not one of the few conservatives here. It is about
evenly split,
Then you are more blind than I had originally suspected.
so you can stop feeling sorry for yourself. Wait! Maybe
you should start feeling sorry for yourself.... All your conservative
"friends" have left you slowly turning in the wind while we Middle of
the roaders and "liberals" take turns beating up on you.
You like fantasizing don't you?
I can see why you were too much of a coward to face me, it's easier for you
in a newsgroup.
I am in other newsgroups, you guys wouldn't get away with a third of
the crap you spew in here.
I am in other newsgroups too and you would have been laughed out of
them long ago, if you had the sense to leave.
You can continue to dream if you wish, if that is what gets you through the
night.
As I said, I have proven successfully the behavior displayed by
liberals..and you were a big help.
You have proven nothing about "liberal behavior".
I most certainly have, and you were a big help.
You followed EXACTLY in line with what I predicted.
You're unreasonable
You will ignore other liberals who make unsupported claims
You will never ask another liberal to support his or her claim
You have standards for some people and different standards for yourself
What you have
proven, for the whole world to see, is that you have no talent for
research, analysis, debate, persuasion or intimidation, winning
friends, influencing people or cultivating fulfilling personal
relations.
You can talk to Dr. Greg Warren who would STRONGLY disagree with you.
Look him up.
And to this day, you are still behaving just like I said a liberal
behaves.
And you still haven't a clue as to why.
Tom S.
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| User: "Tom S." |
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| Title: Re: My apology to MarkA. |
19 Sep 2007 09:29:37 PM |
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On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 20:24:56 -0400, "Osprey" <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
"Tom S." <tscalfjr@cox.net> wrote in message
news:l7m0f3ln3tfk4muvpni7h6u6nbgk22iaib@4ax.com...
On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 22:20:27 -0700, osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
On Sep 17, 10:45 pm, Tom S. <tscal...@cox.net> wrote:
On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 19:28:47 -0400, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com>
wrote:
"Tom S." <tscal...@cox.net> wrote in message
news:eddre319mhenvst584gkfpunm07g1pln0v@4ax.com...
On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 16:52:21 -0400, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com>
wrote:
<snip>
Liberals support other liberals who lie. That's a proven fact
Liberals never ask other liberals to support their claims. That
too..is a
proven fact.
And conservatives just leave each other slowly turning in the wind.
At
least in your case. And that is a proven fact.
Are you still whining boy?
It's been proven you ignore liberals who lie, and you certainly don't
seek
facts.
That's a proven fact boy.
Hey, your bud Barnes is back, you can share unsupported claims
together...that's your style.
I still don't see any conservatives coming to support you. Am I
missing any posts?
Seeing that I am probably one of a very FEW in here that come close to
being conservative (I am independent), it's easy to see why. I am out
numbered by at least 20 to 1, liberals being favored...so I expect
exactly what is happening in here.
Actually you are not one of the few conservatives here. It is about
evenly split,
Then you are more blind than I had originally suspected.
so you can stop feeling sorry for yourself. Wait! Maybe
you should start feeling sorry for yourself.... All your conservative
"friends" have left you slowly turning in the wind while we Middle of
the roaders and "liberals" take turns beating up on you.
You like fantasizing don't you?
I can see why you were too much of a coward to face me, it's easier for you
in a newsgroup.
You do like fantasizing don't you. You know where I live or should be
able to find out easily enough. So come on down if you are that
intent on getting your ***** kicked by some one who is older smaller and
lighter than you. Or you could come down for a discussion and find
out how wrong you are about me. It makes no difference to me either
way.
I am in other newsgroups, you guys wouldn't get away with a third of
the crap you spew in here.
I am in other newsgroups too and you would have been laughed out of
them long ago, if you had the sense to leave.
You can continue to dream if you wish,
Not a dream. I have seen it happen.
if that is what gets you through the
night.
As I said, I have proven successfully the behavior displayed by
liberals..and you were a big help.
You have proven nothing about "liberal behavior".
I most certainly have, and you were a big help.
I am afraid you have proven nothing.
You followed EXACTLY in line with what I predicted.
Wrong
You're unreasonable
Wrong
You will ignore other liberals who make unsupported claims
Wrong
You will never ask another liberal to support his or her claim
Wrong
You have standards for some people and different standards for yourself
Wrong
What you have
proven, for the whole world to see, is that you have no talent for
research, analysis, debate, persuasion or intimidation, winning
friends, influencing people or cultivating fulfilling personal
relations.
You can talk to Dr. Greg Warren who would STRONGLY disagree with you.
Look him up.
A quick Google finds a hematologist, an ER doctor, an NFL player and a
comic. Which one is the one you are referring and why would I want to
"look him up" and talk to him? It is obvious from their professions
that none of them would be in a position to know anything about your
analytical and interpersonal skills.
And to this day, you are still behaving just like I said a liberal
behaves.
And you still haven't a clue as to why.
Tom S.
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: My apology to MarkA. |
19 Sep 2007 09:38:39 PM |
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"Tom S." <tscalfjr@cox.net> wrote in message
news:rgl3f3d2n5dgrbdm6nips5if6f45gpcesu@4ax.com...
On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 20:24:56 -0400, "Osprey" <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
"Tom S." <tscalfjr@cox.net> wrote in message
news:l7m0f3ln3tfk4muvpni7h6u6nbgk22iaib@4ax.com...
On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 22:20:27 -0700, osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
On Sep 17, 10:45 pm, Tom S. <tscal...@cox.net> wrote:
On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 19:28:47 -0400, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com>
wrote:
"Tom S." <tscal...@cox.net> wrote in message
news:eddre319mhenvst584gkfpunm07g1pln0v@4ax.com...
On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 16:52:21 -0400, "Osprey"
<NoNeedtok...@mail.com>
wrote:
<snip>
Liberals support other liberals who lie. That's a proven fact
Liberals never ask other liberals to support their claims. That
too..is a
proven fact.
And conservatives just leave each other slowly turning in the wind.
At
least in your case. And that is a proven fact.
Are you still whining boy?
It's been proven you ignore liberals who lie, and you certainly don't
seek
facts.
That's a proven fact boy.
Hey, your bud Barnes is back, you can share unsupported claims
together...that's your style.
I still don't see any conservatives coming to support you. Am I
missing any posts?
Seeing that I am probably one of a very FEW in here that come close to
being conservative (I am independent), it's easy to see why. I am out
numbered by at least 20 to 1, liberals being favored...so I expect
exactly what is happening in here.
Actually you are not one of the few conservatives here. It is about
evenly split,
Then you are more blind than I had originally suspected.
so you can stop feeling sorry for yourself. Wait! Maybe
you should start feeling sorry for yourself.... All your conservative
"friends" have left you slowly turning in the wind while we Middle of
the roaders and "liberals" take turns beating up on you.
You like fantasizing don't you?
I can see why you were too much of a coward to face me, it's easier for
you
in a newsgroup.
You do like fantasizing don't you. You know where I live or should be
able to find out easily enough.
You said once, you would bust me in my mouth. That makes you the
challenger...so come on...coward...:o)
Dover De
So come on down if you are that
intent on getting your ***** kicked by some one who is older smaller and
lighter than you.
First: You have no idea how tall I am.
Second: You have no idea what I weigh
Third: You have no idea what you would be dealing with, and you wouldn't
want to try.
That's why some of you have mouthed off in here..because you're safe.
Or you could come down for a discussion and find
out how wrong you are about me.
After seeing how you try to ignore liberals who lied about me, and then you
took sides with some of those same liberals..I have no desire to have a
discussion with you.
At one time, I thought I might have been wrong about you...and I did
honestly attempt to have some discussions with you...then you showed me your
true side, the side I had originally suspected, and now..I want nothing to
do with you.
It makes no difference to me either
way.
I am in other newsgroups, you guys wouldn't get away with a third of
the crap you spew in here.
I am in other newsgroups too and you would have been laughed out of
them long ago, if you had the sense to leave.
You can continue to dream if you wish,
Not a dream. I have seen it happen.
if that is what gets you through the
night.
As I said, I have proven successfully the behavior displayed by
liberals..and you were a big help.
You have proven nothing about "liberal behavior".
I most certainly have, and you were a big help.
I am afraid you have proven nothing.
You followed EXACTLY in line with what I predicted.
Wrong
You're unreasonable
Wrong
You will ignore other liberals who make unsupported claims
Wrong
You will never ask another liberal to support his or her claim
Wrong
You have standards for some people and different standards for yourself
Wrong
What you have
proven, for the whole world to see, is that you have no talent for
research, analysis, debate, persuasion or intimidation, winning
friends, influencing people or cultivating fulfilling personal
relations.
You can talk to Dr. Greg Warren who would STRONGLY disagree with you.
Look him up.
A quick Google finds a hematologist, an ER doctor, an NFL player and a
comic.
http://www.dtcc.edu/terry/pages/1997alumni.html
He is a very good friend of mine, a mentor, and was one of my professors in
several of my criminal justice classes.
Which one is the one you are referring and why would I want to
"look him up" and talk to him? It is obvious from their professions
that none of them would be in a position to know anything about your
analytical and interpersonal skills.
And to this day, you are still behaving just like I said a liberal
behaves.
And you still haven't a clue as to why.
Tom S.
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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| Title: Re: My apology to MarkA. |
19 Sep 2007 11:06:09 PM |
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On Sep 19, 10:38 pm, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
"Tom S." <tscal...@cox.net> wrote in message
After seeing how you try to ignore liberals who lied about me,
can you support that statement?
"Your statement is to be considered a lie until you
can prove it to be true."
"osprey" in <1161104485.981302.246...@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
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| User: "Tom S." |
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| Title: Re: My apology to MarkA. |
20 Sep 2007 05:27:51 PM |
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On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 22:38:39 -0400, "Osprey" <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
"Tom S." <tscalfjr@cox.net> wrote in message
news:rgl3f3d2n5dgrbdm6nips5if6f45gpcesu@4ax.com...
On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 20:24:56 -0400, "Osprey" <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
"Tom S." <tscalfjr@cox.net> wrote in message
news:l7m0f3ln3tfk4muvpni7h6u6nbgk22iaib@4ax.com...
On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 22:20:27 -0700, osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
On Sep 17, 10:45 pm, Tom S. <tscal...@cox.net> wrote:
On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 19:28:47 -0400, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com>
wrote:
"Tom S." <tscal...@cox.net> wrote in message
news:eddre319mhenvst584gkfpunm07g1pln0v@4ax.com...
On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 16:52:21 -0400, "Osprey"
<NoNeedtok...@mail.com>
wrote:
<snip>
Liberals support other liberals who lie. That's a proven fact
Liberals never ask other liberals to support their claims. That
too..is a
proven fact.
And conservatives just leave each other slowly turning in the wind.
At
least in your case. And that is a proven fact.
Are you still whining boy?
It's been proven you ignore liberals who lie, and you certainly don't
seek
facts.
That's a proven fact boy.
Hey, your bud Barnes is back, you can share unsupported claims
together...that's your style.
I still don't see any conservatives coming to support you. Am I
missing any posts?
Seeing that I am probably one of a very FEW in here that come close to
being conservative (I am independent), it's easy to see why. I am out
numbered by at least 20 to 1, liberals being favored...so I expect
exactly what is happening in here.
Actually you are not one of the few conservatives here. It is about
evenly split,
Then you are more blind than I had originally suspected.
so you can stop feeling sorry for yourself. Wait! Maybe
you should start feeling sorry for yourself.... All your conservative
"friends" have left you slowly turning in the wind while we Middle of
the roaders and "liberals" take turns beating up on you.
You like fantasizing don't you?
I can see why you were too much of a coward to face me, it's easier for
you
in a newsgroup.
You do like fantasizing don't you. You know where I live or should be
able to find out easily enough.
You said once, you would bust me in my mouth. That makes you the
challenger...so come on...coward...:o)
Actually, you insulted me very hurtfully. What I said was that if you
had made that insult to my face, I would have busted you in the mouth.
Dover De
Alexandria, VA
So come on down if you are that
intent on getting your ***** kicked by some one who is older smaller and
lighter than you.
First: You have no idea how tall I am.
Second: You have no idea what I weigh
Third: You have no idea what you would be dealing with, and you wouldn't
want to try.
Feel free to educate me.
That's why some of you have mouthed off in here..because you're safe.
Or you could come down for a discussion and find
out how wrong you are about me.
After seeing how you try to ignore liberals who lied about me, and then you
took sides with some of those same liberals..I have no desire to have a
discussion with you.
At one time, I thought I might have been wrong about you...and I did
honestly attempt to have some discussions with you...then you showed me your
true side, the side I had originally suspected, and now..I want nothing to
do with you.
Then why do you keep reading and answering my postings?
It makes no difference to me either
way.
I am in other newsgroups, you guys wouldn't get away with a third of
the crap you spew in here.
I am in other newsgroups too and you would have been laughed out of
them long ago, if you had the sense to leave.
You can continue to dream if you wish,
Not a dream. I have seen it happen.
if that is what gets you through the
night.
As I said, I have proven successfully the behavior displayed by
liberals..and you were a big help.
You have proven nothing about "liberal behavior".
I most certainly have, and you were a big help.
I am afraid you have proven nothing.
You followed EXACTLY in line with what I predicted.
Wrong
You're unreasonable
Wrong
You will ignore other liberals who make unsupported claims
Wrong
You will never ask another liberal to support his or her claim
Wrong
You have standards for some people and different standards for yourself
Wrong
What you have
proven, for the whole world to see, is that you have no talent for
research, analysis, debate, persuasion or intimidation, winning
friends, influencing people or cultivating fulfilling personal
relations.
You can talk to Dr. Greg Warren who would STRONGLY disagree with you.
Look him up.
A quick Google finds a hematologist, an ER doctor, an NFL player and a
comic.
http://www.dtcc.edu/terry/pages/1997alumni.html
He is a very good friend of mine, a mentor, and was one of my professors in
several of my criminal justice classes.
One of the first things I do when analyzing a problem, situation, etc.
is to get the original raw data. I think he would tell you the same
thing. The reason for this is that you never know what another person
might have done to the raw data to get the "refined" information they
are presenting to you.
In this cast, Saleton? misread and misinterpreted the data and then
spun it to fit his own agenda, before publishing his critique. You
would have been smarter to read the original article, especially since
it is readily available. You would have seen that Saleton equated
brain function and intelligence. They are not the same thing.
<snip>
Tom S.
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: My apology to MarkA. |
20 Sep 2007 05:33:47 PM |
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"Tom S." <tscalfjr@cox.net> wrote in message
news:4gr5f3plio1k6su2o85hriqc6576kj70av@4ax.com...
On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 22:38:39 -0400, "Osprey" <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
"Tom S." <tscalfjr@cox.net> wrote in message
news:rgl3f3d2n5dgrbdm6nips5if6f45gpcesu@4ax.com...
On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 20:24:56 -0400, "Osprey" <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
"Tom S." <tscalfjr@cox.net> wrote in message
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On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 22:20:27 -0700, osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
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On Sep 17, 10:45 pm, Tom S. <tscal...@cox.net> wrote:
On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 19:28:47 -0400, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com>
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"Tom S." <tscal...@cox.net> wrote in message
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On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 16:52:21 -0400, "Osprey"
<NoNeedtok...@mail.com>
wrote:
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Liberals support other liberals who lie. That's a proven fact
Liberals never ask other liberals to support their claims. That
too..is a
proven fact.
And conservatives just leave each other slowly turning in the
wind.
At
least in your case. And that is a proven fact.
Are you still whining boy?
It's been proven you ignore liberals who lie, and you certainly
don't
seek
facts.
That's a proven fact boy.
Hey, your bud Barnes is back, you can share unsupported claims
together...that's your style.
I still don't see any conservatives coming to support you. Am I
missing any posts?
Seeing that I am probably one of a very FEW in here that come close to
being conservative (I am independent), it's easy to see why. I am out
numbered by at least 20 to 1, liberals being favored...so I expect
exactly what is happening in here.
Actually you are not one of the few conservatives here. It is about
evenly split,
Then you are more blind than I had originally suspected.
so you can stop feeling sorry for yourself. Wait! Maybe
you should start feeling sorry for yourself.... All your conservative
"friends" have left you slowly turning in the wind while we Middle of
the roaders and "liberals" take turns beating up on you.
You like fantasizing don't you?
I can see why you were too much of a coward to face me, it's easier for
you
in a newsgroup.
You do like fantasizing don't you. You know where I live or should be
able to find out easily enough.
You said once, you would bust me in my mouth. That makes you the
challenger...so come on...coward...:o)
Actually, you insulted me very hurtfully.
You insulted me and anyone else who wishes to seek honest people when you
willfully and deliberately ignored claims made by others that were obvious
lies.
That's when I knew, you can't be trusted and once trust is lost...it's lost.
What I said was that if you
had made that insult to my face, I would have busted you in the mouth.
Dover De
Alexandria, VA
So come on down if you are that
intent on getting your ***** kicked by some one who is older smaller and
lighter than you.
First: You have no idea how tall I am.
Second: You have no idea what I weigh
Third: You have no idea what you would be dealing with, and you wouldn't
want to try.
Feel free to educate me.
For what reason?
It's not even worth it.
That's why some of you have mouthed off in here..because you're safe.
Or you could come down for a discussion and find
out how wrong you are about me.
After seeing how you try to ignore liberals who lied about me, and then
you
took sides with some of those same liberals..I have no desire to have a
discussion with you.
At one time, I thought I might have been wrong about you...and I did
honestly attempt to have some discussions with you...then you showed me
your
true side, the side I had originally suspected, and now..I want nothing to
do with you.
Then why do you keep reading and answering my postings?
I should ask the same of you.
It makes no difference to me either
way.
I am in other newsgroups, you guys wouldn't get away with a third of
the crap you spew in here.
I am in other newsgroups too and you would have been laughed out of
them long ago, if you had the sense to leave.
You can continue to dream if you wish,
Not a dream. I have seen it happen.
if that is what gets you through the
night.
As I said, I have proven successfully the behavior displayed by
liberals..and you were a big help.
You have proven nothing about "liberal behavior".
I most certainly have, and you were a big help.
I am afraid you have proven nothing.
You followed EXACTLY in line with what I predicted.
Wrong
You're unreasonable
Wrong
You will ignore other liberals who make unsupported claims
Wrong
You will never ask another liberal to support his or her claim
Wrong
You have standards for some people and different standards for yourself
Wrong
What you have
proven, for the whole world to see, is that you have no talent for
research, analysis, debate, persuasion or intimidation, winning
friends, influencing people or cultivating fulfilling personal
relations.
You can talk to Dr. Greg Warren who would STRONGLY disagree with you.
Look him up.
A quick Google finds a hematologist, an ER doctor, an NFL player and a
comic.
http://www.dtcc.edu/terry/pages/1997alumni.html
He is a very good friend of mine, a mentor, and was one of my professors
in
several of my criminal justice classes.
One of the first things I do when analyzing a problem, situation, etc.
is to get the original raw data. I think he would tell you the same
thing.
Since he has taught several of my classes and he has read many of my papers
including my senior seminar, I think he already knows.
I received one of the highest markings in his class, made the Deans list
every single semester, Alpha Phi Sigma, and Delta Epsilon Rho.
The reason for this is that you never know what another person
might have done to the raw data to get the "refined" information they
are presenting to you.
In this cast, Saleton? misread and misinterpreted the data and then
spun it to fit his own agenda, before publishing his critique. You
would have been smarter to read the original article, especially since
it is readily available. You would have seen that Saleton equated
brain function and intelligence. They are not the same thing.
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Tom S.
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18 Sep 2007 12:51:33 AM |
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osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> writes:
On Sep 17, 10:45 pm, Tom S. <tscal...@cox.net> wrote:
I still don't see any conservatives coming to support you. Am I
missing any posts?
Seeing that I am probably one of a very FEW in here that come close to
being conservative (I am independent), it's easy to see why. I am out
numbered by at least 20 to 1, liberals being favored...so I expect
exactly what is happening in here.
I am in other newsgroups, you guys wouldn't get away with a third of
the crap you spew in here.
As I said, I have proven successfully the behavior displayed by
liberals..and you were a big help.
And to this day, you are still behaving just like I said a liberal
behaves.
<http://www.latimes.com/news/science/la-sci-politics10sep10,0,5982337.story?coll=la-home-center>:
In a simple experiment reported todayin the journal Nature
Neuroscience, scientists at New York University and UCLA show
that political orientation is related to differences in how
the brain processes information.
...
Participants were college students whose politics ranged from
"very liberal" to "very conservative." They were instructed to
tap a keyboard when an M appeared on a computer monitor and to
refrain from tapping when they saw a W.
...
Liberals had more brain activity and made fewer mistakes than
conservatives when they saw a W, researchers said. Liberals
and conservatives were equally accurate in recognizing M.
I.e., liberals are in tune with the "real world" and conservatives
tend to see what they want to see. Osprey is quite evidently a
conservative. :-)
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18 Sep 2007 12:51:59 AM |
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On Sep 18, 1:51 am, No One <no...@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote:
osprey <noneedtok...@mail.com> writes:
On Sep 17, 10:45 pm, Tom S. <tscal...@cox.net> wrote:
I still don't see any conservatives coming to support you. Am I
missing any posts?
Seeing that I am probably one of a very FEW in here that come close to
being conservative (I am independent), it's easy to see why. I am out
numbered by at least 20 to 1, liberals being favored...so I expect
exactly what is happening in here.
I am in other newsgroups, you guys wouldn't get away with a third of
the crap you spew in here.
As I said, I have proven successfully the behavior displayed by
liberals..and you were a big help.
And to this day, you are still behaving just like I said a liberal
behaves.
<http://www.latimes.com/news/science/la-sci-politics10sep10,0,5982337....>:
In a simple experiment reported todayin the journal Nature
Neuroscience, scientists at New York University and UCLA show
that political orientation is related to differences in how
the brain processes information.
...
Participants were college students whose politics ranged from
"very liberal" to "very conservative." They were instructed to
tap a keyboard when an M appeared on a computer monitor and to
refrain from tapping when they saw a W.
...
Liberals had more brain activity and made fewer mistakes than
conservatives when they saw a W, researchers said. Liberals
and conservatives were equally accurate in recognizing M.
I.e., liberals are in tune with the "real world" and conservatives
tend to see what they want to see. Osprey is quite evidently a
conservative. :-)-
Liberal study rigged
As I said, liberals are dishonest..and now, they rig their own
studies.
It's absolutely ludicrous to believe that someone is smarter than
anyone else, simply based on their political preference. Then again,
liberals are so desperate that I can see why they are rigging studies
and grasping on to things like this.
http://www.slate.com/id/2173965/?GT1=10436
Liberal Interpretation
Rigging a study to make conservatives look stupid.
[Author sums this up nicely]
....
In fact, that's exactly what you've done in this study: You've
manufactured a tiny world of letters, half-seconds, and button-
pushing, so you can catch us in clear errors and keep out the part of
life where our tendencies correct yours. And now you feel great about
yourselves. Congratulations. You haven't told us much about our way
of
thinking. But you've told us a lot about yours.
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